Butterfly Marketing Software Open Source - Why Do I Need It?

by Hackbridge 42 replies
Mike Filsaime sent me and many others an email giving away Butterfly Marketing Software Open Source.

I wasn't familiar with it when it was released, so my question is why do I need it? What can it do?

Kind regards

Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
    Personally I don't know why YOU would need it.
    As for what it can do, well it is a great platform for launching a membership site.
    It is free so why not download it and give it a try.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hackbridge
      Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

      Personally I don't know why YOU would need it.
      As for what it can do, well it is a great platform for launching a membership site.
      It is free so why not download it and give it a try.
      Personally, I don't know YOU, so I don't know why you suggest "I don't know why YOU would need it?"

      That's why I asked the question, and it was also a hint to other Warriors that it is available for them to get it.

      BUT, thankfully for the Warriors that posted a different message it comes with a warning.

      BM
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    Maybe you could google for the original sales letter, search the forum or ask in the proper section.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    The open source offer that Mike just released looks like a good deal on the surface but I would caution everyone to be careful with it. I just looked it over and it does have conflicting terms and conditions.

    On his pages Mike says you can modify the script and then you have PLR and can sell it as your own product as long as you sell it over his suggested price point, but when you read the GPL license it clearly states that any work that is derived from the BFM source must be given away freely since the code as a whole is covered under the GPL license.

    Mike also states you can't give the script way as you do not have giveaway rights to it, but the GPL conflicts with that as well since the GPL gives you clear rights to give the script away in its current condition.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
      Originally Posted by Johnny Slater View Post

      The open source offer that Mike just released looks like a good deal on the surface but I would caution everyone to be careful with it. I just looked it over and it does have conflicting terms and conditions.

      On his pages Mike says you can modify the script and then you have PLR and can sell it as your own product as long as you sell it over his suggested price point, but when you read the GPL license it clearly states that any work that is derived from the BFM source must be given away freely since the code as a whole is covered under the GPL license.

      Mike also states you can't give the script way as you do not have giveaway rights to it, but the GPL conflicts with that as well since the GPL gives you clear rights to give the script away in its current condition.
      Mike Ambrosio is taking care of the TOS in the GPL for us. My text TOS you read after that supersedes that.

      I will have the GPL text updated later today to reflect that you can sell it when you modify it as I state in the download area section and text.

      Sorry for the confusion.

      There is no cacth - Change any code and it is yours to PLR and keep all the profits. No strings.

      I am pretty loose with this. I am moving on.

      Let's see good things come from the code base

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
        Thanks for weighing in on this Mike. I know how confusing GPL licensing can be and I figured posting here would get your attention.

        I actually have some really cool ideas on mixing BFM features with my new VMS code and coming up with something truely unique that hasn't been done before.

        Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

        Mike Ambrosio is taking care of the TOS in the GPL for us. My text TOS you read after that supersedes that.

        I will have the GPL text updated later today to reflect that you can sell it when you modify it as I state in the download area section and text.

        Sorry for the confusion.
        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
          Put me on your prospect list, Johnny. All your stuff rocks. You should really setup a notification optin page for this VMS software.

          Originally Posted by Johnny Slater View Post

          Thanks for weighing in on this Mike. I know how confusing GPL licensing can be and I figured posting here would get your attention.

          I actually have some really cool ideas on mixing BFM features with my new VMS code and coming up with something truely unique that hasn't been done before.

          I explain what Butterfly Marketing is here:
          http://www.bluesquares.us/reviews/bu...ined-in-detail
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

        Mike Ambrosio is taking care of the TOS in the GPL for us.
        Um... let me make sure I understand you.

        The terms you want for this software are incompatible with the actual GPL, so you're taking this copyrighted legal document, and having someone modify it to match your desired terms - following which you will continue to say it's under the GPL?

        Mike, seriously, go speak to an attorney. Preferably a specialist in software licensing, although you'll also want at least some competence in trademark law. This relicensing thing looks an awful lot like it's ill-considered and hasn't had even the most cursory attention of anyone familiar with open source licenses.
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        • Profile picture of the author Keith Gilbert
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          The terms you want for this software are incompatible with the actual GPL, so you're taking this copyrighted legal document, and having someone modify it to match your desired terms - following which you will continue to say it's under the GPL?
          Exactly. You can't call something "open source" and then have a custom license for it. If you call it GPL/"open source," you MUST follow the rights detailed in the GPL license.
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Keith Gilbert View Post

            Exactly. You can't call something "open source" and then have a custom license for it.
            You can if the custom license meets the principles of the Open Source Initiative (OSI), but the principles being discussed here most certainly do not.
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  • Profile picture of the author soobashb
    Mike is cooking something. Be careful ! its too good to be true!
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    • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
      Originally Posted by soobashb View Post

      Mike is cooking something. Be careful ! its too good to be true!
      He has told it for 1k, sold it for 197/97, given it away if you sign up for a continuity and used it for bonuses.

      My bet is sales are slow for it.

      So give it away and have a $200 OTO. He isnt giving it away because his business is changing. He is to get OTO sales and list building.

      If it was any other reason and wanted it to be true open source, he would have it on source forge so people can share ideas w/out paying.

      Might be a good time for someone to open a forum.

      As already pointed out, the license is contradictory. Its more like a common license.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gama Seva
    @Mike,
    What will happen now to the people who paid for this product in full ($2K) just like me? Will your team still support it as promised on your sales page?

    I know you have an upsell of $200 just to access to the developers community. Does paying customers like me needs this?

    Thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
      Originally Posted by Gama Seva View Post

      @Mike,
      What will happen now to the people who paid for this product in full ($2K) just like me? Will your team still support it as promised on your sales page?

      I know you have an upsell of $200 just to access to the developers community. Does paying customers like me needs this?

      Thanks

      Gama
      Yes the paid members forum stays active and you get support as a paid customer of the "Home Study Course and software"


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      • Profile picture of the author TheFundingGuru
        Quick question for anyone using the Butterfly software - can I integrate it with wordpress? i.e. use wordpress as the content platform but put it together with the Butterfly marketing software to handle the affiliate piece? My concern with the Butterfly software is that it won't be as flexible as wordpress and I won't be able to do the sequential elements of a membership site. Any feedback?

        Much appreciated in advance...

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  • Profile picture of the author Gary McCaffrey
    Originally Posted by Hackbridge View Post

    Mike Filsaime sent me and many others an email giving away Butterfly Marketing Software Open Source.

    I wasn't familiar with it when it was released, so my question is why do I need it? What can it do?

    Kind regards

    Brian
    I bought it the day it launched in January 2006 and still use it to this day. My latest site (in my sig) is built around it. If you want to start a custom membership site then I would highly recommend it, its probably the best purchase I ever made.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hackbridge
      Originally Posted by Gary McCaffrey View Post

      I bought it the day it launched in January 2006 and still use it to this day. My latest site (in my sig) is built around it. If you want to start a custom membership site then I would highly recommend it, its probably the best purchase I ever made.
      Thank you. This is the kind of answer I was looking for. Why trawl the internet when there are Warriors here using it!

      Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    Interesting discussion

    For me I can say BFM script is very good. It has had it's problems, but I paid well over 1k for it and use it on a number of sites.

    I find it good as a list builder, ie give away an audio/ebook and then present an oto. It does not have drip feed built into it, ie a new product appear after every x weeks, however it is good, and being free it's even better.

    I remember first reading about bfm when it launched and it was then that i discovered the arena of IM and launches.

    However i suppose the question remains re the licence, changing the script and reselling it - how much change needs to be done, ie if i change one line of code is that enough?

    Thanks mike for jumping in here
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanParenti
    If you want to use the software this is a good plan. If not I don't find much value in it. I highly doubt I am going to develop the software
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    • Profile picture of the author kimkitch
      I am looking to build a membership site and was offered this script in an e-mail from Mike the other day. I currently have my domain name, my host and my content. Other than this script what else would I need in order to get my membership site up and running.

      regards

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      • Profile picture of the author Gama Seva
        Originally Posted by kimkitch View Post

        I am looking to build a membership site and was offered this script in an e-mail from Mike the other day. I currently have my domain name, my host and my content. Other than this script what else would I need in order to get my membership site up and running.

        regards

        Kim
        That's it, All you need now is good contents and something valuable stuff that you can give it away for free on the fron-end.

        BFM works great with front-end gratis and multiple upsells/downsells after people signed up.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jimvesting
    I think basically its for selling products when you want to have an integrated members-only area. It's a new form of viral marketing, and the software is actually pretty good. Heck, there's no reason NOT to grab it because now it is free
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  • Profile picture of the author 133tsh
    I want to know if you can change 1 piece of code on the bfm can you then sell it and keep all the profit?
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrw07
    Butterfly marketing script is everything you need for your site. It can be for building list, sell products, memberships, etc. Its really good, everything in other script can do is in butterfly marketing. The best script I ever use!
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  • Profile picture of the author tsgeric
    Based on what I've read, I have an understanding of what the BFM software does. However, not having had any actual first-hand experience in setting up sites or anything else related to internet marketing, is this something I could do on my own, or does it make more sense to get the study course that goes with it? A great tool isn't of value unless you know how to use it.

    If I don't get the study course, what are my other options for learning how to take advantage of it? If I do get the study course, do I have better options for getting it other than joining the developer community for $200?

    One last thing. Reading the reviews for BFM, it seems like the software debuted in 2005. Is it still relevant today, is it still a big deal taking into consideration other tools that have probably launched since then?

    Thanks all for your responses. I'm new at IM and just want to understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mirnova
    DO NOT BOTHER WITH BFM!

    Listen, you're putting lots of time and energy into your site. Freakin build it on a sustainable platform.

    BFM is outdated, and obviously Mike as abandoned development on it.

    I paid for it. Then abandoned it for better platforms. I highly doubt it's got any better since I shelled out the cash for it.

    Don't be stupid here...

    Mike is just trying to get the most mileage out of his decaying, outdated assets. Watch the latest offers he's made. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to he's more concerned about squeezing the last dime out of them while they die, then actually delivering for those who buy them.

    Anyone who buys them is buying dead or decaying assets.

    BFM might be free, but it will cost you far more in the end.

    Build on a wordpress platform with a membership script like Amember or Wishlist.

    With the plugins you'll have all the functionality of BFM and MORE... And it will be sustainable.

    Wordpress isn't going away anytime soon.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      DO NOT BOTHER WITH BFM!
      Agreed.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Listen, you're putting lots of time and energy into your site. Freakin build it on a sustainable platform.
      I agree with this. There are many open source platforms that can accomplish what this butterfly script can do, and they can do many things beyond the scope of the butterfly script. Projects like Wordpress, Drupal, TYPO3, or modx come to mind, and I'm willing to bet that their open developer communities will be cranking out great software for years to come. I won't place any bets on the longevity of the 'pay to play' butterfly script's 'exclusive' developer community.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      BFM is outdated, and obviously Mike as abandoned development on it.
      What boggles my mind is that it looks like developers have to pay $200 to become 'charter members' of what is presented as an 'exclusive' development community.

      Listed on the Developer's Network page are some reasons why making developers pay to contribute to a free software project is the right way to go.

      These reasons as to why the developer's network requires one to pay to be a member seem FUD laden, and don't really reflect how free open source projects function.

      For instance, the Developer's network page states:

      We know there are literally DOZENS of open source networks for free. Many of them are committed to over 100 different projects. This network is committed to just this source code and its members. Period
      It suggests that a developer's network must be better if it hosts only a single project rather than many.

      Sourceforge.com one of the largest open source project hosting sites effectively hosts over a quarter of a million projects. These projects include many pieces of software that warrior forum members use such as:

      7-Zip | Get 7-Zip at SourceForge.net
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      Notepad++ Plugins | Get Notepad++ Plugins at SourceForge.net
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      Need I say more?

      Another thing the Butterfly Script Developer's page says is:

      Over the years, I have had the chance to be part of a paid community and free communities open to the public. I have found “free” communities are good but filled with many “haters” and hackers and people uploading bad scripts to hurt members. Also, there is a “free only, scarcity” mentality in many cases with some bad apples rather than an “entrepreneurship, abundant” mentality. These places are filled with not only mad information from people that have never and will never have success, they pose opinions as fact without testing real world practices. This misinformation and disinformation is often bad advice given buy “know it all haters”
      Oh come on! People that pay for stuff can distribute misinformation as well as people who don't pay for stuff. And paying to contribute code seems a bit ridiculous. It doesn't cost a penny to contribute to and share information regarding:

      That these open source projects have Open communities does not hinder their longevity and success. It instead contributes to their success.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      I paid for it. Then abandoned it for better platforms. I highly doubt it's got any better since I shelled out the cash for it.
      Good for you. It can be difficult to abandon something that you've invested some time or money into. I think you've made a good choice.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Don't be stupid here...
      Don't be stupid anywhere for that matter

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Mike is just trying to get the most mileage out of his decaying, outdated assets. Watch the latest offers he's made. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to he's more concerned about squeezing the last dime out of them while they die, then actually delivering for those who buy them.
      Perhaps that's so, and he can do what he wants.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Anyone who buys them is buying dead or decaying assets.
      Yeah that's probably true.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      BFM might be free, but it will cost you far more in the end.
      Probably.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Build on a wordpress platform with a membership script like Amember or Wishlist.
      That or any other capable free open source CMS. This kind of functionality is quite trivial.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      With the plugins you'll have all the functionality of BFM and MORE... And it will be sustainable.

      Wordpress isn't going away anytime soon.
      Wordpress has been going strong since 2003 with constant improvements, it has an open community, tons of plugins, is easy to customize, and can serve many different functions.

      Originally Posted by Mirnova View Post

      Just my 2 cents.
      Plus my 2 cents equals 4 cents.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sibis
        I just want to know that if I change only one line of code, will I get the PLR and can name it to what ever I want and sell it and keep all profits?

        I just want to be sure about this.

        Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
          The answer to that is no. Mike clearly says you need to make "substantial" modifications to the code. At the least you will have to modify several files just to rebrand it and remove any reference to Butterfly Marketing. You have to add additional functionality or make improvements on what is already there in order to rename it and sell it as your own.

          That doesn't even take into account that according to the license that Mike released the script with no one has the right to resell the product, or any product derived from the code you recieve in the download. Mike clearly has no understanding of GPL licensing and has been getting bad advice from someone regarding the licensing issue. Regardless of what has been said, the GPL license that Mike released the script with clearly states that you have to provide any copies of the script, or any derivitive of it for no charge. The rights that Mike lays out outside of the GPL are in direct violation of the GLP license and have no standing whatsoever.

          You can not release something within the GPL then change the rights associated with it. If it is released under GPL then ONLY the GPL license counts.

          Originally Posted by Sibis View Post

          I just want to know that if I change only one line of code, will I get the PLR and can name it to what ever I want and sell it and keep all profits?

          I just want to be sure about this.

          Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author gregburton
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        Agreed.

        I agree with this. There are many open source platforms that can accomplish what this butterfly script can do, and they can do many things beyond the scope of the butterfly script. Projects like Wordpress, Drupal, TYPO3, or modx come to mind, and I'm willing to bet that their open developer communities will be cranking out great software for years to come. I won't place any bets on the longevity of the 'pay to play' butterfly script's 'exclusive' developer community.
        I love ignorance. NONE of the products you mentioned do what "this butterfly script" can do. Still can't, 5 years later. They're all great products, but they do not have some of the features of the BFM script.... nor have open-source plugins been released to do those functions. So you might want to consider that the features aren't trivial to implement in those platforms, either.

        But all this is beside the point. The point isn't "built to last" or "can I resell it?" The point is "yes, it's a functional script that you can make money using - by USiNG it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mavrick
          Hey Greg,

          I have to agree with your post. I was thinking the same thing about the options for wordpress named in the post previous to yours...none of those have the abilities of the BFM script and you will be hard pressed to find something free like it for wordpress!

          Now, although I haven't used the Butterfly Script yet personally, I did research its capabilities. And after researching what it can do, I can not think of why someone wouldn't use it when they are first starting out! To me it is a VERY viable option with some great features and functionality...... and all for free!!!

          I have to say that I've looked and sifted for other free membership options and have only found one or two... but none seemed to have ALL the right elements like this one.

          I say use it! Make some money and then move on and look for other options once you can afford to do so... it's a no brainer!
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          • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
            Originally Posted by Mavrick View Post

            Hey Greg,

            I have to agree with your post. I was thinking the same thing about the options for wordpress named in the post previous to yours...none of those have the abilities of the BFM script and you will be hard pressed to find something free like it for wordpress!
            There are many open source projects that can be modified to do what the BFM script does. No, there is not an out of the box solution or a plugin.

            Realize that this discussion is in the "Programming Talk" forum where I assumed that people here were accustomed to programming their own solutions, perhaps using Wordpress or a similar platform as a framework to accomplish that.

            If you only expect a turnkey solution, then your concerns may be better addressed in the main forum. This is not the "turnkey software solution" forum.

            I create and program my own solutions, and I had just assumed that others who frequent a forum about programming would do so too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sibis
    I installed the Butterfly Marketing script as showed in their tutorial videos and all went well. Then when I tried to login to my admin panel it loaded something but ended up at the same login page. I reuploaded and reinstalled a few times but still doesn't work.

    Any idea what might cause this and is the open source version working for you others?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Kelly
      If I remember correctly with GPL you can't resell
      but if BFM would be released under LGPL then you could resell.

      BR,
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperH
    search the forum or ask in the proper section.
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  • Profile picture of the author Earnie Boyd
    Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

    Oh come on! People that pay for stuff can distribute misinformation as well as people who don't pay for stuff. And paying to contribute code seems a bit ridiculous.
    I ditto this.

    What boggles my mind is that it looks like developers have to pay $200 to become 'charter members' of what is presented as an 'exclusive' development community.

    Listed on the Developer's Network page are some reasons why making developers pay to contribute to a free software project is the right way to go.

    These reasons as to why the developer's network requires one to pay to be a member seem FUD laden, and don't really reflect how free open source projects function.
    A good open source community has a few paid workers who keep the project on task. I've never seen one where I have to pay to contribute to the code. That's just nonsense.

    Plus my 2 cents equals 4 cents.
    And my 2 cents makes it equal 6 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author WF99
    i recommend to use it for custom membership site ..
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  • Profile picture of the author getmethere
    @wf99
    I agree - it is a free and easy way to set up a membership site - there are still tons of BF sites out there raking in great income....

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author bhess
    I have one question that nobody has answered yet. Is it possible to modify the code to work with PHP 5.4 and beyond? I currently have it installed in hosting that has upgraded to 5.4 and I am afraid that if I change it back to 5.2 some of my other sites will fail to operate. The following error is displayed from the Admin Area General Settings:

    PHP Version Check - FAILED

    PHP 5.0 through 5.2.x is required to run this software.
    Your version is 5.4.34, which requires a change.
    Please ask your hosting company to change your version.

    Since this script is installed in the root directory of my main domain how would I change the PHP version so it would affect only this site?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Bryan
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    • Profile picture of the author ced28
      Originally Posted by bhess View Post

      I have one question that nobody has answered yet. Is it possible to modify the code to work with PHP 5.4 and beyond? I currently have it installed in hosting that has upgraded to 5.4 and I am afraid that if I change it back to 5.2 some of my other sites will fail to operate. The following error is displayed from the Admin Area General Settings:

      PHP Version Check - FAILED

      PHP 5.0 through 5.2.x is required to run this software.
      Your version is 5.4.34, which requires a change.
      Please ask your hosting company to change your version.

      Since this script is installed in the root directory of my main domain how would I change the PHP version so it would affect only this site?

      Any help would be greatly appreciated.

      Thanks.

      Bryan
      Yeah, I hear you...

      I have 2 BFM sites that run perfectly under php version 5.2.13 for years, Almost 12,000 members.

      I have a VPS and for the past several months i was killing apache at least once a week I think they mention that my server was end of life or something like that....

      Anyway, they offer me a great deal on a new VPS plan and they migrated all my sites to this new server.

      Now this server is running php version 5.4.41

      That where my problem begin

      from the Admin Area General Settings I don't see the php error you mention.

      For me right now my admin panel is working, peoples can login and navigate the site. I don't get any errors from my admin panel.

      My problem is that nobody can signup anymore

      When peoples try to join my sites and fill up the form they only see...

      (((Please wait while your information is being processed ...)))

      You wait and wait and nothing happen...??????

      Honestly I have no clue what to do now.

      Any BFM expert here?

      I already ask my hosting company if they could downgrade me to php 5.2.x and they say that this version is not supported for several years now. I think they offer me to go back to php 5.3.21.

      Anyways, I mention that I run 2 BFM sites, well one of them need a good update, so I put it in maintenance mode a couple months ago, this sites was running a old version of the BFM script, version 1.9.03.

      My other BFM site is running version 2.10 of the script.

      To make a story short, I decided that I will upgrade my old site from 1.9.03 to the latest version which is 2.32 and see what will happen. The very first patches that I installed version 1.9.04 I got a error right away.

      MySQL said: Documentation
      #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=MyISAM AUTO_INCREMENT=0' at line 1

      On this new server I'm running MySQL Version 5.6.23 on my old server I was running Version 5.0.29
      So I guess the syntax is not the same????

      Finally I kind of broke my site when I install the patches, now I get a error message when I'm in my admin panel, don't see any of my stats anymore

      So for sure will not try to install any patches on my good BFM site.

      But for now it is pretty worthless to have a site that nobody can't signup.

      Not sure what I gonna do with that.

      Any expert with this script that are still reading this thread? (Pretty old thread) Got here by googling butterfly marketing script.

      Thanks,
      - Cedric

      PS. BTW, I paid $1000 for this script, made my money back many time but still suck that the support forum is DEAD. Well any support altogether.
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      • Profile picture of the author ced28
        In case someone else will read this...

        I was able to fix my problem.

        When I upgraded my server, I went from MySQL version 5.0.96 to MySQL Version 5.6.23

        That when the signup form STOP working.

        The problem that occurred was that tables did not have a default value set, which under default mysql configurations will produce an error instead of working.

        To fix the issue, I had to disable the check to allow database tables without default values to work correctly.

        The exact setting that was disabled is `STRICT_TRANS_TABLES` which is a mysql mode that helps to enforce newer database methods.

        So now everything working fine on my Butterfly sites

        - Cedric
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I have to say that this is one of the exceptional products that is still valuable, I actually have both versions, the paid and the open source, (still have the original butterfly marketing course and paper copy) so often you see sellers (very often right here in the WSO forum) where they sell a product sometimes support it for a few weeks, (sometimes not) but it has become a normal course of action where a product is sold then abandoned once the revenue drops below a certain threshold.

    Often the website shows up as expired, seen this in several products recently.

    But butterfly marketing, its still online, the forum is still up, I think that says a lot about the veracity of the seller.

    Of course nothing lasts forever, but you have to respect a seller that stands behind and keeps a website open even when it is not as popular or continues to generate income.

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