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15 years ago

Hi Gleb,

Have you considered Clickbank or PayDotCom?

Apart from PayPal they are probably the most
popular of payment processors.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

Lol I might as well check into PayDotCom. One promo email from Mike Filsaime could melt a dedicated server - which might be a good thing under circumstances

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

You code your own affiliate tracking to be used inside the system itself. No idea why you would be looking for a service that would do the tracking for you as that would be a huge mistake.

Maybe I misunderstand your question but the membership site itself must be able to do tracking itself before affiliate sales can be made.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

James,
that would be the great approach and I'd strongly favor it. It just take lots of paid time to make it happen. Much quicker is to integrate existing well known service that does it all anyways.

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MemberWing

James,
that would be the great approach and I'd strongly favor it. It just take lots of paid time to make it happen. Much quicker is to integrate existing well known service that does it all anyways.

Gleb

Gleb,
The problem is when you use an outside source for affiliate tracking...

* What happens when that site has downtime and I send 20 people to buy a product with my affiliate link.. Obviously I would not be paid because the system used an outside source for tracking. Now you got one pissed off affiliate...

This is just one problem that can be caused due to using an outside source. Taking the cheap route is not always the best route. I am fully aware of what it takes to develop sites, I am a website developer

Personally I prefer my own custom built from scratch membership site and not use wordpress but that's me.. Since you have chosen to use wordpress as your route then I urge you to think about taking the time and even money it cost to code it properly and use your own tracking system.

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John Taylor

15 years ago

Gleb,

Please hurry.. My most frequently asked question from my
members is "Does Marketing Confidential have an affiliate
programme?"

I would have thought that the most elegant solution would
be to build the affiliate function into the existing MemberWing
plugin. That's an upgrade that I would gladly pay for.

Perhaps something along the lines of Rapid Action Profits
where it rotates payments between site owner and affiliate?

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jbode

15 years ago

Have you considered 1shoppingcart?

it is very commonly used for membership sites

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Lee Campbell

15 years ago

Gleb,

From the looks of your product it seems pretty great, I agree that RAP would be a great thing to look into. I just have a question, does your program allow permissions for certain groups? Like allowing gold members to see a certain blog but not others. Say Gold can see type A, B, and C while Silver can only see A and B, and Bronze can only see A.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

Hi Lee, that is exactly how it works!

Gleb.

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jhollar

15 years ago

Gleb,

Its a cool plugin...downloaded yesterday after John Taylor mentioned it in a post.

Is there a way to drip content so new content shows up in the members area at a defined frequency - so, if I pre-load all the content, when a member joins, he can see new content every 30 days instead of everything at the same time....

Ron

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John Taylor

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jhollar

Gleb,

Its a cool plugin...downloaded yesterday after John Taylor mentioned it in a post.

Is there a way to drip content so new content shows up in the members area at a defined frequency - so, if I pre-load all the content, when a member joins, he can see new content every 30 days instead of everything at the same time....

Ron

Ron,

As I explained in my PM, the drip feed of content is managed by Wordpress using the "schedule posts" function.

When you post a new article you can set the time and date that you want it to be published.

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jhollar

15 years ago

John,

I am not asking about scheduling posts...I am aware that it can be done with Wordpress.

I am asking about dripping content to members, so they don't get everything at the same time.

Let's say that I am constantly updating content and have built a massive site with 12 months worth of content. If a member joins today, I would not want him to get access to everything. I would only want to give him access to the 1st month's content, and then 30 days later, he gets access to the next set of content etc etc...

This is different from scheduling using Wordpress.

Ron

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Ron,

As I explained in my PM, the drip feed of content is managed by Wordpress using the "schedule posts" function.

When you post a new article you can set the time and date that you want it to be published.

John

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Louis Raven

15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Taylor

Ron,

As I explained in my PM, the drip feed of content is managed by Wordpress using the "schedule posts" function.

When you post a new article you can set the time and date that you want it to be published.

John

I think he meant time released content based from the sign-up (not date).

So if member a signs up today he only gets week one content. Member b signs up next year and only gets week one content.

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Marian Berghes

15 years ago

I used Click2Sell and I still use it...it has good support -max 24hrs until they respond to your tickets-, they have low fees...tracking is pretty good also...the thing is that they aren't that known yet.

Plus a great feature for me, as a merchant, is that I receive every payment directly to my paypal acc when its made...so no waiting for checks or the end of the month anymore.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

The fastest way to accomplish all that would be to find existing service or script with API. If we gain enough votes for click2sell - I'd be happy to find time to integrate them into MemberWing.
Anything more complex or built from scratch would take either infusion of cash to materialize or lots of time.

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John Taylor 15 years ago

Originally Posted by MemberWing

Anything more complex or built from scratch would take either infusion of cash to materialize or lots of time.

Gleb,

I've sent you a proposal By PM.

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dhudiburg

15 years ago

Have you looked into iDevAffiliate? Seems like that is the 'integrated' platform of choice among a lot of coders.

Also, as mentioned above, I'd look into RAP.

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MemberWing 15 years ago

Hi Ron, memberwing does not do it yet.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

iDevAffiliate is probably most well know aff management software - I'll look into it.
Also i am not aware what is RAP.

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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

Hi Gleb,

I'm building my own affiliate system for Easy Backlinker at the moment. If you're already accepting payments via PayPal then by far the quickest way to get this up and running would be to use PayDotCom.

Since they are already using PayPal/IPN etc you're not going to have to do much more than produce a new type of sign up button for your site and provide a little bit of help on how to get started using PDC (since the product will need to be created on PDC as well).

Depending what sort of timescale you're working on I'll have my affiliate system up within a couple of weeks and will happily send the code your way for repurposing into your plugin.

It will definitely have 2-tier affiliate tracking but beyond that I'm not sure yet.

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Josh Anderson

15 years ago

If you know about anyone else that has all the required features - let me know and I'd look into working on that.

Nanacast does it all. So does www.Premiumcast.com and www.mixiv.com

Affiliate program management, one of the most accurate referral tracking systems in the industry, recurring and all other billing type strategies, paypal, authorize.net, 2checkout processors supported... and a few dozen other features many which no other system sports like the ability to automatically subscribe to aweber or getresponse, even the option to automatically remove from aweber or getresponse email list management systems upon cancellation.

We have a wordpress membership plugin for it as well.

We also supply an api that anyone who is developing their own wordpress plugins can use to snap our automation system into it.

While our plugin is free... the backend automation and business management system is not... but it definitely rocks for those who use it.

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John Taylor

15 years ago

Just a quick heads up..

I'll be working with Gleb to create an affiliate
module that will integrate with MemberWing.

According to my developer, it will be available
by early to mid January.

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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

Nice one John. Thanks for doing this.

You too Gleb.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

Hi Andy, thanks for heads up re: PayDotCom.
They apparently do support everything I need, plus well know in industry, plus have rather democratic fee structure compare to other solutions.

I'll be closely looking into integrating them into MemberWing.

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15 years ago

Update re: membership site + affiliate feature:

Tested with PayDotCom - all works!
Issue: if user cancels subscription - PayDotCom won't notify anyone, although site owner *will* get email about cancellation. So little problem is that users who cancelled subscriptions need to be removed from list of "premium" users manually by the site owner. I contacted PDC about this.
The good thing is that fully automatic subscription initiation + multilevel membership site capabilities + affiliate tracking support via PayDotCom will get into the next MemberWing.
I'd say next week.
John Taylor is working to help create hosted version of affiliate tracking script - so more good stuff is coming...

Get on a list at memberwing.com/download - if you want to be updated and get the latest/greatest version ASAP.

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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MemberWing

Update re: membership site + affiliate feature:

Tested with PayDotCom - all works!
Issue: if user cancels subscription - PayDotCom won't notify anyone, although site owner *will* get email about cancellation. So little problem is that users who cancelled subscriptions need to be removed from list of "premium" users manually by the site owner. I contacted PDC about this.
The good thing is that fully automatic subscription initiation + multilevel membership site capabilities + affiliate tracking support via PayDotCom will get into the next MemberWing.
I'd say next week.
John Taylor is working to help create hosted version of affiliate tracking script - so more good stuff is coming...

Get on a list at memberwing.com/download - if you want to be updated and get the latest/greatest version ASAP.

Gleb

Sounds fantastic. Good work Gleb!

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Louis Raven

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MemberWing

Update re: membership site + affiliate feature:

Tested with PayDotCom - all works!
Issue: if user cancels subscription - PayDotCom won't notify anyone, although site owner *will* get email about cancellation. So little problem is that users who cancelled subscriptions need to be removed from list of "premium" users manually by the site owner. I contacted PDC about this.
The good thing is that fully automatic subscription initiation + multilevel membership site capabilities + affiliate tracking support via PayDotCom will get into the next MemberWing.
I'd say next week.
John Taylor is working to help create hosted version of affiliate tracking script - so more good stuff is coming...

Get on a list at memberwing.com/download - if you want to be updated and get the latest/greatest version ASAP.

Gleb

I'm assuming/hoping it's going to free right?

Anyhow, I tried having a similar script designed for my affiliates and I've listed the problems I faced that may help you.

1. Paypal likes to keep their subscription feature exclusive to them and that's the reason why E-Junkie can't offer a solution. But I see how you got around this as your WP platform does the actual distribution of product/content.

2. You will be notified by email but if selling a high priced subscription and someone cancels a few hours before the next renewal or just blatantly doesn't pay, they will more than likely still have access to an extra months product by the time you've canceled them on your side

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3. Time released content based from when they sign up. As you know it's a pain when someone signs up and gets 4 months content for the price of one.

Above is some of the issues I've faced and if you overcome them you've got a great little product on your hands

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zerofill

15 years ago

Well...not just the problems James mentioned about 3rd party affiliate tracking solutions...but also...why would anyone want to use a 3rd party tracking solution when it is technically capable of tracking what keywords sent a user to your site, demographics, etc...Actually a whole list of valuable info.

I mean 3rd party solutions leave you with having to put a lot of trust that the owner of the service isn't going to use the data to target specific niches as well. Not that they will...but I never want anyone to have that kind of info about my sites. That is basically the same reason Google Nemesis was crucified.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

...and one more service:

I've managed to add support for e-junkie. No recurring subscriptions there (e-junkie doesn't support reccuring) , but you will be able to sell "lifetime membership" or whatever you'd like name them, as long as it would require *single payment* to join your membership site. But you'll get all the required affiliate tracking and promotions tools that comes with e-junkie.

And of course it automatically adds support for Google checkout, 2checkout, Clickbank, Trialpay and Authorize.net via e-junkie's facilities (check your admin interface).

Same idea will work with Payal, same idea will work with PayDotCom.

So webmasters will have a choice in promoting their membership programs to affiliates either via PayDotCom or via e-junkie. Or both if wanted to.

LOTS of coding a testing I had this weekend....

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Ric Raftis

15 years ago

Looks like a really great component. Lots of interest from the Twitter community when I posted your link.

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15 years ago

I just purchased your "premium" edition.

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Josh Anderson

15 years ago

asically for that magic to happen I need to have an existence of service that can do:
recurring subscription payment processing + affiliate tracking + API in one service.

Nanacast offers all that and a heck of a lot more and an API so that projects like yours can use it.

We provide both inbound and outbound API. Our system handles recurring payments via authorize.net enabled merchant accounts, paypal, and 2co. Our system has a robust affiliate program management system and rock solid cookie and ip combo tracking among many other features.

We encourage independent Wordpress plugin developers who are creating plugins for wordpress to use our api to integrate our system which does all you just requested with their own plugin.

If you have any questions about our api or plugging in our automation system to your membership plugin just post to our support desk and we'll be happy to provide any additional info you may need and possibly a complimentary account for development purposes.

Seriously though... if that is really what you need we have it and we created the api for developers like you to take advantage of it.

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MemberWing

15 years ago

Hi Daryl thank you!

I'll send you email soon about my new plugin that allows gradual content delivery (most often asked for feature).

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Desmond Ong

15 years ago

I have tried memberwing plugin and i must say it is pretty good.

Although i prefer amember plugin, the good thing about memberwing is that it has a free version.

This saves me tons of money

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