Why Organic SEO Beats PPC!

There's always a risk attached to ranking sites with private blog networks, can't deny that, even the ones that are setup more legit still look fake when you dive a little deeper into it and the backlink profile itself reveals everything straight away.

Proof of that are two batches of sites that I setup exclusively for 2 customers, based on domains hyper relevant to their niche and hosted on an SEO host that got badly affected by the latest attack from Google. None of the domains from these batches got deindexed despite a manual review while another batch on irrelevant domains got hit pretty hard, same host.

As for SEO's not building network links to their sites, not so much cause they are afraid it won't work or last, much more cause competitors in the SEO niche love to report each other so having a network out in the open for everyone to see is a bad idea.

We weren't blind enough to take an entire continent from you were we? Who didn't see that coming? LOL

Here let me give you some glasses. from the job description provided at the link I gave

bit more than changing their onsite platform oh uninformed Brit.

I am not responsible for your garbage definition of what you think SEO is and is not. Sorry.

I deny that

The difference here is JCPenney & most large corp. are always in the spotlight, so there's always going to be someone nit picking everything they do (competition).

The odds of a small local business ever getting called out is slim because nobody cares. If you told WSJ that Joe Blows plumbing in small town Iowa was building links, nobody would care.

BTW, a lot of local small businesses have multiple domains targeting the same/similar keywords. Do a Google search for a few local niches (carpet cleaning, locksmith, roofing, etc...), look at the domains in their link profiles. Those aren't usually organic links.

Those are still legit businesses with tax ID numbers (TIN, EIN).

Lets face it . You don't have a solitary clue what you are talking about. Every time you make generalized statements about link building you give away you have no clue. You are just trying to redefine SEO to make all your nonsense claims about SEO fly in the face of contrary evidence.

Case in point of ignorance. I don't know a single professional SEO that does not know that out there in the real world links are BOUGHT every day and have been for over a decade. It is IMPOSSIBLE to detect money exchanging hands between two entities and when done right there is NOTHING,NADA, ZIP in the code or on the page that says

"Hey here I am...this link is bought"

Its pure ignorance to claim there is. Some even most PBNs have footprints yes but PBNs do not have to have them and they are only ONE KIND of buying links with a host of others available that work today, worked ten years ago and will work as long as links count. So not only can somebody deny it like you claim they can't. Every single professional SEO with an ounce worth of experiences knows the claim is pure nonsense.

If all that wasn't enough there are links.php/links.html ALL OVER THE INTERNET that never get deleted or deindexed and yes many are paid (not to mention professional directories). So the whole buying links will get your site in trouble and real businesses don't buy links (what in the world is a "partner page" but a link based on a monetary relationships) is just pure garbage.

This is what SEO has always been about. Buying links to increase your position on google. Just because a business buys a link from a PBN doesn't mean they will suffer for it in the long term. If the PBN gets shutdown and they lose their position guess what they can do? Find another PBN or SEO provider. This is what SEO has always been about. You get some backlinks....You get ranked where you want to.....The backlinks get removed for some reason or your competition out works you... You build MORE backlinks to pass them....and on.. and on.....and on....

You shouldn't be scared to buy links because maybe one day these links won't matter. It's just the SEO game and that's the game we play.

Ah.... now there is the rude and insulting belligerent posts that we have all come to expect from you Mike. You never fail to get nasty if anyone has a viewpoint that is different from yours. You are the most consistently nasty forum troll we have here on WF. Thanks for your consistently hateful trolling.

I am not going to take the bait for your non sequitur arguments. For the most part none of the expressed viewpoints about my reply are even remotely close to what I said, or think. I said what I said and I'll let it stand on it's own. You can defend what you said, but don't put my name next to your assertions, those are your assertions and yours alone, not mine, you defend them as I will not.

Mike, I respectfully ask that you re-read what I wrote, and set aside your emotions and just discuss it with logic and reasoning, please leave the hate and vitriol out of this conversation.

That was funny.. The double troll thing

I have to say... When I see posts from the names you mentioned I will always read the thread... Even if I am not interested in the topic..

Yes I noticed that you never learn anything... from me, nor rarely from anyone else.

I only argue for what I believe to be the truth. I don't get the mindset of arguing for one marketing channel over another when they are both great, in my opinion, and even better when used together. I see so much nonsense on this forum that I feel compelled to give members a different viewpoint, especially when I see the same fallacies repeated so often that people begin to accept it without question.

Whenever I see what I believe to be a fallacy becoming a popularly accepted notion, I often reply to shed a little truth on the subject. Those that value ideas that are popular without ever questioning the truth will nearly always be on the opposing side of these discussions. As I am deliberately challenging popular notions, I expect a lively discussion to follow. In the end everyone gets to read both sides of the controversy and perhaps this will encourage others to test popular notions to find out if they are true or not.

When I see rubbish, vitriol, scams and myths on this forum, I am not afraid to challenge it, nor am I afraid of forum bullies, trolls and the sort. You may have noticed that I challenge the words and ideas when I see things that don't match the reality of years of testing. I never take what you say personally because I have noticed that you seem to attack everyone that ever disagrees with you. I am in good company.

I follow the scientific method and test everything that looks like it may have merit. If you have never benefited from the discussions that's okay by me. I have received many messages of thanks from members, and even a few PMs thanking me for standing up to the forum bullies that try to start flame wars against anyone that has a different opinion. As long as someone benefits I okay with it.

It's time that Warriors stop basing their knowledge on what they hear most people saying, and to to start challenging popular notions that just don't hold up under real world testing. To do that you must not only test but learn how to perform valid tests.

Yes, I am not afraid to challenge a notion, just because it is popular. And yes, I do use many things things that SEO workers (professional or otherwise ) might not have heard about. Please allow me to share a few for those reading this thread that are able and willing to learn.

Sure there are no-brainer methods of just picking a short head keyword to target. Just because a keyword has high volume doesn't mean it will be a good converter. While you can use the keyword tools to to learn about search volume, you cannot tell how one keyword converts compered to another until you have collected that data for yourself. That's where PPC comes in as an excellent tool for SEO professionals that use science and math rather than a shoot from hip approach.

It is simple to setup a test campaign to find the CTR, and conversion rate of a list of keywords. This data will provide an approximate value per click, and give an indication of the CTR you can expect after ranking the keyword in organic results. With this data you can prioritize the targeting of your keywords for the quickest most profitable return on investment.

Additionally you can use PPC to test page titles, headlines, value propositions, and description snippets so that once you have ranked your page you are already using content that has been optimized for maximum CTR and conversion rates.

Could you get this data without using PPC? You can get some data without PPC, however it will take much much longer to gather and it will never be as accurate as you cannot run multiple variations in split tests is available on the AdWords platform.

The difference in gathering actionable data is like the difference in traveling by jet airplane verses a bicycle. Sure the airline ticket is much more expensive, but you can go much further and faster.