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Page 1 On Googel Now What!

by RickyLM
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Will someone answer the million dollar question. I got my site listed on google the front page with in the top 5 sites. I'm not out to get you to purchase or am I spamming the forum. I've been sitting in that spot for over 2 weeks. Where are all the customers?

I'm not receiving any traffic from this my key words are powerful software.

I thought the whole idea to getting listed to page one on google was to receive a mountain of orders and claiming your way to riches.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
    Are you saying that nobody is clicking on your webpage or they are and just not buying anything? If I'm reading this correctly your saying your keywords are "powerful software" if that is true then it may get a lot of searches but those are very vague keywords and can mean so many things to different people. I would definitely change that keyword to something more specific to what you are selling.
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    • Profile picture of the author NashRyker
      Originally Posted by misterwrecker View Post

      Are you saying that nobody is clicking on your webpage or they are and just not buying anything? If I'm reading this correctly your saying your keywords are "powerful software" if that is true then it may get a lot of searches but those are very vague keywords and can mean so many things to different people. I would definitely change that keyword to something more specific to what you are selling.
      Good advice. One of the keys to converting traffic is to focus on targeted traffic instead of generic traffic.

      For example, google the word "dogs". Notice that there are hardly any sponsored ads on the right? That's because the word is too general, and its not profitable for companies (even the big ones with tons of money) to target that keyword. The term "Dog kennels" is MUCH more targeted, and therefore would convert the traffic from that search term way better than the term "dog".
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      • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
        Originally Posted by Stephen Clark View Post

        Good advice. One of the keys to converting traffic is to focus on targeted traffic instead of generic traffic.

        For example, google the word "dogs". Notice that there are hardly any sponsored ads on the right? That's because the word is too general, and its not profitable for companies (even the big ones with tons of money) to target that keyword. The term "Dog kennels" is MUCH more targeted, and therefore would convert the traffic from that search term way better than the term "dog".
        Thanks for the insight. I'm still learning daily. I've been at this for three years. I've had numerous sites on page one on google and I've made pennies. You clear one obstacle thinking this is it and your back to square one. I'm begining to think. I'm chasing my own tail!
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    • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
      Originally Posted by misterwrecker View Post

      Are you saying that nobody is clicking on your webpage or they are and just not buying anything? If I'm reading this correctly your saying your keywords are "powerful software" if that is true then it may get a lot of searches but those are very vague keywords and can mean so many things to different people. I would definitely change that keyword to something more specific to what you are selling.
      If there clicking. What do I look for on my stats page? There IP address. I receive traffic. I was expecting to be flooded with orders. My key words are geared toward internet marketing. That is what I'm selling, a gallery of software for marketers to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author CCCAffiliate
    If "powerful software" are your keywords, i agree with misterwrecker that those are extremely vague. Maybe switch them up so your audience is more targeted
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  • Profile picture of the author kelvin yeo
    There are keywords, then there are keywords...

    I'm not familiar with software keywords but have to say that "powerful software" does not sound like a buying keyword. In other words, the person who searches for that sounds like he or she is researching or curious rather than specifically looking to buy something.

    An example of a buying keyword could be "buy CAD software" or "where to buy software for mac". Hope this helps you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Calvert
      If I understand your question correctly, you are getting almost no traffic for the term "powerful software" even though you are appearing on the first page of the results for the search term.

      I agree with the others that this term is too general.

      Also, regarding the low amount of traffic, the Google Keyword Tool is showing a global monthly search volume for the exact phrase "powerful software" of only 320 searches. That's not very much traffic to target in the first place, so you should not expect a boat load of traffic from that term no matter how general or specific it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
        Originally Posted by Mike Calvert View Post

        If I understand your question correctly, you are getting almost no traffic for the term "powerful software" even though you are appearing on the first page of the results for the search term.

        I agree with the others that this term is too general.

        Also, regarding the low amount of traffic, the Google Keyword Tool is showing a global monthly search volume for the exact phrase "powerful software" of only 320 searches. That's not very much traffic to target in the first place, so you should not expect a boat load of traffic from that term no matter how general or specific it is.
        I have that tool your speaking of. Why I did not think to use it? Information overload. I need to slow down. Thanks for pointing that out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Calvert
        Here's another idea. Instead of trying to optimize for the entire gallery of software, try building a separate web page for each single product in the package.

        Optimize each page using search terms that are more specific to each particular software program, and something that a prospect who is closer to making a purchase decision might type into the search engine. Then just show the prospect that they can get the software they want as part of your entire package.

        You could even structure your offer so that they get the rest of the package as bonuses for purchasing the software for which they were originally searching.

        Best Wishes,

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    • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
      Originally Posted by kelvin yeo View Post

      There are keywords, then there are keywords...

      I'm not familiar with software keywords but have to say that "powerful software" does not sound like a buying keyword. In other words, the person who searches for that sounds like he or she is researching or curious rather than specifically looking to buy something.

      An example of a buying keyword could be "buy CAD software" or "where to buy software for mac". Hope this helps you.
      How about something like "powerful software for internert marketing"
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    are they BUYING keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      are they BUYING keywords?
      Yes there are paid adverts to the right. My line of thinking was geared towards marketing and advertising.
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      • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
        Originally Posted by RickyLM View Post

        Yes there are paid adverts to the right. My line of thinking was geared towards marketing and advertising.

        Just because there are paid adverts to the right using google adwords doesn't mean that they are buying keywords. Yes its a good sign to see a bunch of adwords advertisements to the right but you have to keep in mind there are going to be many inexperienced advertisers bidding on generic keywords and getting untargeted traffic to their site and running up their adwords accounts and on the other side you could have huge corporations that bid on these keywords because they have a huge advertising budget and can afford to bid on these keywords and hopefully make it up on the backend over time. I checked your keyword and there are only two paid adverts.
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        • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
          You need to get ranked high on Google for keyword phrases that suggest someone is ready to buy a specific product or service you have to sell.

          It really is as simple as that.

          powerful software
          ?

          What does that mean.

          Now if you had a keyword phrase like
          software to remove xxx virus

          and you were promoting a software product designed to remove the xxx virus then you'd have a serious chance of making some sales.

          Also notice that although you might not get as much traffic with that long tail keyword phrase:

          # The traffic would be highly targeted.
          # Longer tail keyword phrases are much easier to get high rankings on Google.
          # Your strategy should be to rank for HUNDREDS of specific long tail keyword phrases that suggest someone is looking to buy something specific you have to sell.


          Beyond that your site and pages need to be designed specifically to convert visitors from those website searchers into subscribers or buyers...whatever process that takes.

          Kindest regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author RickyLM
            Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

            You need to get ranked high on Google for keyword phrases that suggest someone is ready to buy a specific product or service you have to sell.

            It really is as simple as that.

            powerful software
            ?

            What does that mean.

            Now if you had a keyword phrase like
            software to remove xxx virus

            and you were promoting a software product designed to remove the xxx virus then you'd have a serious chance of making some sales.

            Also notice that although you might not get as much traffic with that long tail keyword phrase:

            # The traffic would be highly targeted.
            # Longer tail keyword phrases are much easier to get high rankings on Google.
            # Your strategy should be to rank for HUNDREDS of specific long tail keyword phrases that suggest someone is looking to buy something specific you have to sell.


            Beyond that your site and pages need to be designed specifically to convert visitors from those website searchers into subscribers or buyers...whatever process that takes.

            Kindest regards,
            Andrew Cavanagh
            Wow, It's amazing the answers that are being posted. I appreciate the insight. Believe me I'm taking notes. Thanks to all who posted.
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          • Profile picture of the author ianpanrita
            Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

            You need to get ranked high on Google for keyword phrases that suggest someone is ready to buy a specific product or service you have to sell.

            It really is as simple as that.

            powerful software
            ?

            What does that mean.

            Now if you had a keyword phrase like
            software to remove xxx virus

            and you were promoting a software product designed to remove the xxx virus then you'd have a serious chance of making some sales.

            Also notice that although you might not get as much traffic with that long tail keyword phrase:

            # The traffic would be highly targeted.
            # Longer tail keyword phrases are much easier to get high rankings on Google.
            # Your strategy should be to rank for HUNDREDS of specific long tail keyword phrases that suggest someone is looking to buy something specific you have to sell.


            Beyond that your site and pages need to be designed specifically to convert visitors from those website searchers into subscribers or buyers...whatever process that takes.

            Kindest regards,
            Andrew Cavanagh
            wow nice answer
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    Having specific keywords is important, but also consider how your site shows up for that keyword such as the page title and description (you want people to click on your site, not skip it because they can't understand the title and description...
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    Catchy meta description tags may help.
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    • Profile picture of the author spicer
      I agree with the others that the keywords "powerful software" are to generic and not really targeted towards finding buyers. Also, you could send millions of people that are buyers to your site and if your landing page is not easy to get to the purchase button or compel them to buy you could still have bad results.
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  • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
    You have to ask yourself that whether the keyword is relevant to what you sell, plus also maybe you want to test a different pricing too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    This is just common sense.

    The top ranked sites for some search phrase receive the highest percentage of clicks from the searchers. That's true.

    But if you are #1 for something nobody searches, 100% of 0 is still 0.

    And if you're #1 for something that doesn't describe what you offer, why would any of those searchers buy from you, let alone click your listing?

    Do you buy products that aren't what you are looking for just because they appeared in the search result?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    Originally Posted by RickyLM View Post

    Will someone answer the million dollar question. I got my site listed on google the front page with in the top 5 sites. I'm not out to get you to purchase or am I spamming the forum. I've been sitting in that spot for over 2 weeks. Where are all the customers?

    I'm not receiving any traffic from this my key words are powerful software.

    I thought the whole idea to getting listed to page one on google was to receive a mountain of orders and claiming your way to riches.
    "Powerful software" is meaningless from the perspective of a search.

    In fact so are the words "powerful" and "software" separately.

    People are searching for specific information and/or solutions, such as "anti virus software".
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  • Profile picture of the author madmagician
    Originally Posted by RickyLM View Post

    Will someone answer the million dollar question. I got my site listed on google the front page with in the top 5 sites. I'm not out to get you to purchase or am I spamming the forum. I've been sitting in that spot for over 2 weeks. Where are all the customers?

    I'm not receiving any traffic from this my key words are powerful software.

    I thought the whole idea to getting listed to page one on google was to receive a mountain of orders and claiming your way to riches.

    If it's the site I think it is, according to the email you'd contact on that site, and your username on this forum, it looks like nothing anyone would buy to begin with.

    I don't even understand what's happening on your page. Those keywords really have nothing to do with your site. NTM those particular keywords are incredibly vague. But I don't think anyone using those keywords to look for something are looking for an IM opportunity.
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    • Profile picture of the author banker0679
      there are keywords...then there are keywords...then there are more keywords

      1. keywords that dont get searched
      2. keywords that get searched for info
      3. keywords that will get you conversions

      if you're not getting any traffic AT ALL then that means that you fall in #1

      i spent months targetting a keyword, and worked my whole site around it.
      I finally obtained the #1 spot, and was there for months...and still there
      I probably get about 10 visitors from that keyword PER MONTH
      According to Google...it gets THOUSANDS of searches per month (using the exact match)

      so i switched the keyword tools i was using
      changed my keyword strategy to the new keywords and my traffic tripled in 1month
      went from about 2000 to over 6000 visitors per month.

      the best way to do keyword research is using PPC
      it helps you to see the keywords ppl are actually searching for
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  • Profile picture of the author maestro2010
    What exactly is the software. As you told that it is for marketers then what does your software do? Is it sending mails in bulk or building links for website or anything else?

    To be clear, webmasters are clever and only buys product if they are really in need of them. Otherwise they look for some crack version of their products in rapidshare or any other place.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
      Originally Posted by maestero2010 View Post

      To be clear, webmasters are clever and only buys product if they are really in need of them. Otherwise they look for some crack version of their products in rapidshare or any other place.
      Maybe YOU do that, but millions of other people pay for software.
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      • Profile picture of the author banker0679
        lol honest people that is

        Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

        Maybe YOU do that, but millions of other people pay for software.
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  • Profile picture of the author happyguy
    Originally Posted by RickyLM View Post

    Will someone answer the million dollar question. I got my site listed on google the front page with in the top 5 sites. I'm not out to get you to purchase or am I spamming the forum. I've been sitting in that spot for over 2 weeks. Where are all the customers?

    I'm not receiving any traffic from this my key words are powerful software.

    I thought the whole idea to getting listed to page one on google was to receive a mountain of orders and claiming your way to riches.
    this has confirmed what i usually tell all new adsense publishers out there that the need to target the right keywords cannot be stressed enough. according to other people, a keyword with 320 predicted monthly visitors is not enough for you to make enough money from. Its good to combine at least ten of these keywords and be the first for the keywords before you can see good visitors that will translate to money.
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  • Profile picture of the author solidsoul
    I have to agree reading over this post seems to me te problem is your keyword is to broad. If I was seeking a software for any purpose it wouldn't be searched by powerful software... it would be linked to what I'm trying to accomplish software for blahblah
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  • Profile picture of the author jakesellers
    If you're #1 in google you can expect to get about half the traffic for that search. For example, I have a site that's #1 for a search that averages about 10k searches monthly, and get about 5k visits just from google web search (and some from blog search, little from image, etc). If there's lots of Adwords ads displayed for the query, or particularly good Adwords ads you might only get 1/3 or 1/4 of the search traffic (for example two ads with 10% ctr skims off 20% of the gross potential organic). In general web search traffic is just traffic, and your strategy has to be to monetize traffic, people are just going to bounce from an order page, and I imagine the bounce rate from these novella-length pitch pages is pretty high too. I've found that if my #1 has Adwords ads, the people in "buy mode" seem to hit the ads, not the top sites, probably because ranking for "buy whateverthing" is not the weekend job that #1 for "whateverthing reviews" can be, and the ads will be "buy whateverthing" ads.

    A good tool for creating and developing top-of-serp's sites is Microsoft's Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs which gives you a decent idea (if it's not obvious) if people are searching for a particular thing with intent to buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    What are your keywords? Do they get any/enough traffic?

    Throw some keywords in this tool and find out what the average search volume is..
    Sorry can't post link.. do a search for seobook keyword suggestion tool
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  • Profile picture of the author oadvantage
    Looks like you may have a foundation problem in your keyword research. Or maybe the estimates are wrong in your initial figures
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  • Profile picture of the author renantech
    to get on page 1 on your niche maybe you have a good keyword using keyword research or you have a strong site.
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  • Profile picture of the author pcpupil
    Ricky,
    Im still new but ive been on google lots of times for my keywords with article marketing.No sales yet as im still learning.
    Anyway,heres my finds and suggestions.Some the same as others.
    At your site:
    1---To much blue text,hurts my eyes to read.I have IE8
    2---no teaser as to products,cant see what im getting for the buck.
    3---3rd paragraph,about the pay structure.Read it twice and still dont get it.

    Your Keyword [Powerful structure] results from google are below.I just checked.

    broad=18,000 searches for june.

    "phrase"=3,600 searches

    [exact]=590 searches

    This is with Googles tool.What i would do is use the next section that has all the related searches[on bottom].That has the seperate kinds of software listed and use each one as an individual keyword.That matches your software in your site.
    Wordtracker doesnt even show your keyword at all.
    I also use [Traffic Travis].Its free.It has a lot for free.It also has PPC and lots more.
    Check it out when you have a chance.
    Goog Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author john_kennedy
    This may seem a bit harsh but I just went through the whole page 3 deal. Even if you got people to click on your link, I doubt that you would convert too many lookers. The whole concept is poorly written and the preentation is comical. I went all the way down to the bottom of the page trying to stay on that page for 13 minutes and 43 seconds and believe me it was tough to do! If the products are what they say they are, they should be able to sell themselves without having to resort to this type of marketing. Reminds me of some of the really shady MLM plans from the 80s and 90s.
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  • Profile picture of the author sherone
    I think your keywords are weird which is none use for search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Natheen2000
    Originally Posted by RickyLM View Post

    Will someone answer the million dollar question. I got my site listed on google the front page with in the top 5 sites. I'm not out to get you to purchase or am I spamming the forum. I've been sitting in that spot for over 2 weeks. Where are all the customers?

    I'm not receiving any traffic from this my key words are powerful software.

    I thought the whole idea to getting listed to page one on google was to receive a mountain of orders and claiming your way to riches.
    Well have you checked with google keyword analysis and are you sure that the keyword which you hve selected is queried by thousands/hundreads of users per month.... You would get the traffic based on that..... However, try to stick there, You will get some traffic soon.... (As per your post, you are there just for 2 weeks, is it? )
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