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Ranking Competitive Keywords Solely With a PBN - Would It Work?

by nik0 Banned
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I mostly rank keywords like "best flat iron", "lawn mower reviews", "realtor in medium sized city", "one word search terms in Holland" and so on, which is mostly medium competitive for most people browsing this forum and probably low competitive for seasoned SEO's.

Now let's look at some more competitive phrases like:
  • Solar Panels (AU)
  • Digital Camera Reviews (US)
  • Life Insurance Quotes (UK)

Excuse my ignorance but I never get the budget to rank such terms so I have little experience on that front and my own sites are mostly based on those "best... / .... reviews" keywords, which are doable.

So question to the pro's who do rank these type of terms:

- How much do you spend on a PBN to rank such terms?
- How many sites (PR2-PR6) do you expect to buy to make a difference?

I use a broker, and I just saw a domain in the list for $800,-, a pretty rock solid PR6, I used to buy such domains quite some time ago and when there were no posts yet I linked out to someone in the UK who wanted to rank for "life insurance quotes" and we pushed them from page three to the bottom of page one in a matter of days (so long for links need to age almost a year to push significant amounts of juice), this was about 1.5 years ago btw.

Are such results still realistic these days?

Is it really that easy to just buy a bunch of PR5-PR6 domains and spend say $5k to rank such terms? Sure with multiple domains I do expect it a bit longer to take to send the full juice as from experience I know you can simply push too much at one time (I know cause 1.5 years ago I had a client buy 8* PR5 and 2* PR6 from me all at one time for a number of sites and some responded great while ohters didn't move an inch) so there's definitely some trigger when you push to much link juice all in one go, and that largely depends on the existing link profile whether the site can handle it or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Although the Uk market looks a lot softer than The US for "life insurance quotes" I would never use just a PBN for that niche but mix it with good white hat link building.

    The reason is that life insurance companies mostly pay out the first years premium as commission which means theres very good money in it. Years back even selling term life a sale for me was worth $500-$1500.

    With that kind of money for a conversion the competition is fierce and those relying on SEO look over their competition very closely and are more prone to white hat link building than review affiliate sites. They will report in heartbeat

    In short you are likely to get reported and burn up you PBN going into a main keyword phrase like that. I've had some customers do well with other related terms but not the key buying one.

    Plus to have any prayer you would have to come with pretty good content and setups. Going wordpress blogs with anchor text into that would be suicide. So just adding up the cost of some domains wouldn't cut it. Even for the UK I also think you would have to come stronger than $5,000
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      With that kind of money for a conversion the competition is fierce and those relying on SEO look over their competition very closely and are more prone to white hat link building than review affiliate sites. They will report in heartbeat

      In short you are likely to get reported and burn up you PBN going into a main keyword phrase like that. I've had some customers do well with other related terms but not the key buying one.
      Good point indeed.

      I already noticed something else, neg SEO attacks when you rank top 3 for some juicy affiliate keywords (and that wasn't even very competitive, just a decent commission maker).
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    You would be obviously keeping your network as far away from the main page as possible. Might be even best to set up a fresh network of sites around that.

    I could make $40-60k a month in insurance. Be damn sure someone will try protect that type of income.

    The beautiful thing about SEO though is, you don't need to be the best to win. You just need to be better then your comp. Who knows who's fighting for such terms til you get there.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      You would be obviously keeping your network as far away from the main page as possible. Might be even best to set up a fresh network of sites around that.

      I could make $40-60k a month in insurance. Be damn sure someone will try protect that type of income.

      The beautiful thing about SEO though is, you don't need to be the best to win. You just need to be better then your comp. Who knows who's fighting for such terms til you get there.
      You know, some times I'm even happy with bottom page one rankings for my own affiliate sites, sure that only brings in about $100/month per site but when the costs for link building and content aren't too high that's still decent enough and it stays clear of any reporting or neg SEO attacks. Just need a lot of sites to make some money lol.

      Other benefit is that selling sites in the range of $1000-$2000 is much easier then selling a site for say $20k

      Though that more applies to 6-12 months ago, now with the time it needs to rank a site (several months), it's a lot less interesting to play small ball.
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