Delete bad backlinks or just build more good ones?

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Hi. I am learning seo as I go. My website has only been live for 5 months and because I didn't have any experience, when I first started building backlinks, they were mostly forum signature backlinks and all of them were directed to my homepage. Dumb, I know. My question is, because my website's ranking has tumbled after the latest penguin update and I don't have thousands of backlinks to change, only a hundred or so, should I just leave all those backlinks that are pointing to my homepage alone and just build new diversified backlinks, or should I change all those forum signature backlinks and have them point to different pages of my website, or should I just delete them altogether? Also, most of those backlinks are on forums that have nothing to do with my niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    As always, build a new webpage & point fresh quality links at the new webpage. Either it ranks or it doesn't.

    Use an easy same niche keyword while testing, that way competition isn't a factor. If the page ranks, target your regular keywords with new internal pages & more quality links.

    Unless you control the old junk links odds are removing the links isn't an option.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestprofit
    you mast share your website to have more backlink
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  • Profile picture of the author GoDataFeed
    Try to remove them if you can. First, take care of the ones you can handle yourself. i.e., the ones that are easily deleted by logging into the forum and removing the post.

    Because they are so few, don't worry about chasing down webmasters to have them removed. Just take care of the ones you have access to.

    It may not amount to much (good or bad) but the reality is that search engines (ahem, Google) are doing a lot to punish link building like this. The last thing you want is to do a lot of good link building from now on and, a few years from now, losing all that value over early mistakes.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Delete the bad links and disavow the ones you can't deleted. Then build fresh quality links. Alternatively, start over with a new domain name and build quality links.
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    • Profile picture of the author Apatrid
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      Delete the bad links and disavow the ones you can't deleted. Then build fresh quality links. Alternatively, start over with a new domain name and build quality links.
      Agree, if you leave those old links and start adding new it will take forever to get back in position where you want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
    That's a great question, likely to cause debates and split opinions... So each to their own with no hard feelings... For me yukon's advice above is a good one...

    Personally I see G's disavow tool as the strangest thing.... You're basically admitting to gaming the SERPs... Post disavow like many others I believe the algo becomes much more sensitive to link building... If you took G's view of the world, then web masters shouldn't even dream of creating links in the first place with the purpose to improve ranking... So its a conundrum in that sense lol...

    That aside I would say that you should first test to see how your website responds within search. Can you search for your domain, does it come out on top, have you tried searching for unique bits of text from your web pages.... etc.. and see if there is anything unusual... If that is okay then my view is not to disavow... as your website is responding well for search.

    Also you should look at your site content... Is it thin, over optimized keywords etc... and see if you can make improvements wrt on page seo before considering drastic steps to disavow... With G it seems to be more about what not to do than what to do...

    Also realize that many of your links could be nofollow so you need to weed that out of your linking profile and see what is left... You might be surprised... noting disavow in principle is the same as turning your dofollow links to nofollow...

    Another thing you should also bear in mind is that even though you report a fall in your rankings... it might be that some of your backlinks have become weaker... Lets say a website which provided a great authoritative link got hit by penguin.. Its now no longer going to give you that same link juice and as a result your site will be impacted... Does this mean you got hit by a penalty...No it does not!!! So you see you need to see past the fog of war...

    I hope some of my comments can help and of course best of luck with your research and on your decision on what to do....
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  • Profile picture of the author vitaliykolos
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOGhost
      I have already disavowed a lot of spammy links that I didn't even post. I also disavowed some backlinks that I did post that were on websites that had nothing to do with my niche. For me, starting over completely isn't an option. What is weird is that one of my money search terms I rank well for, especially for a website that has only been live online for a few months (I bounce back and forth between page 2 and page 3 for this search phrase). But, my more competitive search term, I have really dropped in ranking. Could this be due to over optimization of anchor text for that search term when I was building backlinks? So, in theory, if I get rid of or diversify the anchor text of those backlinks, my rankings should improve when the new penguin update rolls out?
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      • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
        Originally Posted by SEOGhost View Post

        I have already disavowed a lot of spammy links that I didn't even post. I also disavowed some backlinks that I did post that were on websites that had nothing to do with my niche. For me, starting over completely isn't an option. What is weird is that one of my money search terms I rank well for, especially for a website that has only been live online for a few months (I bounce back and forth between page 2 and page 3 for this search phrase). But, my more competitive search term, I have really dropped in ranking. Could this be due to over optimization of anchor text for that search term when I was building backlinks? So, in theory, if I get rid of or diversify the anchor text of those backlinks, my rankings should improve when the new penguin update rolls out?
        If you've been hit by a penguin update, all you have to do first is remove or disavow the bad backlinks. Once that is completed, you can then start working on diversifying your anchor text and making your link profile look natural.
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        • Profile picture of the author SEOGhost
          Thanks, guys. I guess I will have to figure out a way to get more quality content on my website because high PR websites don't seem to want to link to my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweezeter
    If your website tanked post Penguin update that means your rankings are in the crapper until you clean up the preexisting links.

    You can build high quality links but that will not help. You weren't around but the constant threads promoting this theory last year when Penguin was rolled out never amounted to anything. In fact if you go back in time and look at the posters that did that last time they are still posting now about how that didn't work and asking what to do just like you.

    You need to remove the low quality crappy links if you want to recover your rankings. Don't make it worse by building more bad links in hopes you'll recover.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roopatg
    Hello, check whether all forum backlinks are qualitative or not. If not, try to remove those links. And if you have given the same anchor text for all backlinks, try changing that using long tail keywords. If you have all the backlinks,which are pointing to one single page, keep the page as it its but change the anchor text. And henceforth try building backlinks for some other page.
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  • Profile picture of the author justfeminized1
    Firstly check all forum backlinks are quality based or not. If not then try to remove bad links and if you are creating same anchor text for all backlinks please change it or your targeting page it same for all links then also change it. After that try to build quality based links.
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  • Profile picture of the author pipskok
    How in the earth can someone delete 20.000 blog comments backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author samk2824
    I Will Suggest You To Remove Old Spammy Links And Post Quality Content
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