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Chinese domains, work for a PBN?

by zarakatajamember
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hello I have a question. I have seen that there are very good domains with high DA and PA. But when I go to archive.org, I see that the content is in Chinese.
functioned for my PBN in English?
#chinese #domains #pbn #work
  • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
    In 99% of cases, they are spammy domains. However, from the site architecture, you can find whether they are spammy or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

      In 99% of cases, they are spammy domains. However, from the site architecture, you can find whether they are spammy or not.
      That makes no sense. Absolutely no sense.

      Obviously, you have no knowledge of the Chinese government and the
      internet in China as a whole. Which means you don't know anything
      about Hong Kong and Macau, also part of China, using their own
      domains. I would find it hard to believe that 1 billion people are served
      nothing but spam websites on a daily basis....that would contradict
      the Chinese government philosophy on the internet in China.

      Maybe you mean 99% outside of China....even that would not
      hold a lot of water.

      I'm sure a PBN is "possible" using .cns, but it would be highly
      unlikely for a number of reasons.

      If the rules for buying a .cn domain on the open market are different
      than a new one, then that would change things. I cannot believe that buying
      a .cn domain on the open market, and using it, would be very easy for
      the average marketer here.

      So Mike A, I'm curious to know how easy it is. But then, what on earth
      would people use it for? If it were for Chinese visitors, you'd still have
      a problem with censors and other things. If it's for outside of China,
      why bother?

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        So Mike A, I'm curious to know how easy it is. But then, what on earth
        would people use it for? If it were for Chinese visitors, you'd still have
        a problem with censors and other things. If it's for outside of China,
        why bother?

        Paul

        Paul OP said NADA about .CNs. He said the content on the sites were chinese. Chinese and Japanese just like the rest of the world buy .coms and .nets (many of them even originally used by english based entities). Chinese and Japanese build PBNs just like all the rest of the IM world and some of the .com/.net/,org sites have all english anchor text links from English sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    Originally Posted by zarakatajamember View Post

    hello I have a question. I have seen that there are very good domains with high DA and PA. But when I go to archive.org, I see that the content is in Chinese.
    functioned for my PBN in English?
    As long as the domain have good back link history and was not used for spam. Many Chinese related domains were used to send spam emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by zarakatajamember View Post

    hello I have a question. I have seen that there are very good domains with high DA and PA. But when I go to archive.org, I see that the content is in Chinese.
    functioned for my PBN in English?
    Check the backlinks. There are a few senior members here who don't know what they are talking about and will tell you a Chinese domain is never good but Google cannot discriminate against all Asian domains. Fact is like all marketers they buy all kinds of domains. You will even find domains that were all English and have all non spam anchor English anchor text. They use them in their own PBNs and then some of them expire. If they are still indexed they MAY be usable.

    However over all if you are new to PBNs and buying domains then you are probably better avoiding them until you are more experienced because they are overwhelmingly bad most of the time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Slazengeer
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      That makes no sense. Absolutely no sense.

      Obviously, you have no knowledge of the Chinese government and the
      internet in China as a whole. Which means you don't know anything
      about Hong Kong and Macau, also part of China, using their own
      domains. I would find it hard to believe that 1 billion people are served
      nothing but spam websites on a daily basis....that would contradict
      the Chinese government philosophy on the internet in China.

      Maybe you mean 99% outside of China....even that would not
      hold a lot of water.

      I'm sure a PBN is "possible" using .cns, but it would be highly
      unlikely for a number of reasons.

      If the rules for buying a .cn domain on the open market are different
      than a new one, then that would change things. I cannot believe that buying
      a .cn domain on the open market, and using it, would be very easy for
      the average marketer here.

      So Mike A, I'm curious to know how easy it is. But then, what on earth
      would people use it for? If it were for Chinese visitors, you'd still have
      a problem with censors and other things. If it's for outside of China,
      why bother?

      Paul
      I wanted to say to OP that majority of domain names such as .com, .org, .net, etc., when they have high authority but have Chinese content on them, it better to leave them because they were either spammed to death or already under Google's penalty. However, there are gems no doubt, but there are also hungry people waiting to grab those high PR domains more than anything else.

      Every PBN maker will avoid High PR domains with Chinese anchor texts. When you search expired domains, not only me but hundreds of marketers avoid these domains on first account.

      And, I was not talking about .cn domains. I was talking about popular TLDs with Chinese content.

      And, when I see domains with 10k backlinks & Chinese content? I don't know what others actually see in them but I avoid them.

      And in the end I also said that

      However, from the site architecture, you can find whether they are spammy or not.
      which means, Chinese also buy .com and other popular TLDs and built authority websites like we do, in the end, website architecture will says it all.

      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      However over all if you are new to PBNs and buying domains then you are probably better avoiding them until you are more experienced because they are overwhelmingly bad most of the time.
      The difference between your reply and mine was nothing but that I said directly and you said indirectly but with little disrespect to SENIOR members in first para.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Mike A, I sand corrected. Thought OP was talking about domains in China,
        not websites in Chinese or other.

        Originally Posted by Slazengeer View Post

        which means, Chinese also buy .com and other popular TLDs and built authority websites like we do, in the end, website architecture will says it all.
        Sure, Chinese people might buy them. But you said 99% of all Chinese domains
        were spammy. No way YOU could be talking about anything other than .cn's
        Otherwise, your comment makes even no sense doubled.

        Sure, Chinese people buy dot coms....but again, you don't have a clue about
        China, if we are talking about people in China. The internet is NOT the same
        as the free world. Ditto for every other country that controls the internet.

        Website structure, etc. is meaningless.

        So, let's copy again what you write:
        In 99% of cases, they are spammy domains. However, from the site architecture, you can find whether they are spammy or not.
        What domains are you talking about? It infers that you are talking about .cn's....
        Nobody would ever think otherwise. If you meant websites in Chinese, what
        the heck does that have to do with spam? Like English is not spammed?
        People were using .cn's to spam drugs...and other things. Chinese govt
        cracked down.

        I would imagine that English "domains" are the most spammed
        in the world!

        I would bet most domains or whatever in Chinese, are for the market in China
        and its territories. And again, 99% of them are NOT going to be used for spam
        in China. It's not a free and open internet.

        Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Paul come on Dude you just get into things to rant without knowing the context. OP is obviously talking about the domain market he can access not the chinese .cn market which very few people even know where to look up so YES in the English letter domain market many domains owned and operated by chinese are spammy. Thats a wel known domain after market fact. I don't know about the percentage but China is VERY high in the world for spam

    You are living in the past. The Chinese have embraced capitalism and believe in it more than Americans.
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  • Profile picture of the author solosolo
    My simple rule is just ignore Chinese and Japanese related site. It's just too dangerous, better careful than be sorry right?

    Also, there is plenty of fish in the sea. I check expireddomain.net daily and I can find 1-2 good domain with high DA, PA, TF & CF. On lucky day, could be 3 domains found and registered.

    So, just avoid
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by solosolo View Post

      My simple rule is just ignore Chinese and Japanese related site. It's just too dangerous, better careful than be sorry right?

      Also, there is plenty of fish in the sea. I check expireddomain.net daily and I can find 1-2 good domain with high DA, PA, TF & CF. On lucky day, could be 3 domains found and registered.

      So, just avoid
      Good luck on that, make sure you at least check the PR of the backlinks.

      I spend a few days on this and found that the best ones had like 1 PR2 link or 2 PR1 links.

      Nowadays that might be a little different as PR doens't update anymore so now I expect you might find some gems without knowing it cause really DA, PA, MR, MT, CF, TF it all sucks, even in combination it remains a gamble.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I think they can still help in a private network, but I would use them in a tier, and not directly at anything I cared about.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      I have quite a few French, Spanish, Italian domains.

      But I do avoid Chinese, Japanese and Russian domains.

      Why? Cause my clients complain about it while I never heard them complain about domains with a French, German or whatever anchor profile.

      I think they might be a little less effective cause they don't use the abc alphabet, but that's just pure guessing. I do find they are cheaper than the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It's like shopping for a Ferrari on a car lot full of GEO Metros. Maybe there's a good one here somewhere?

    Good luck deciphering the gibberish link profile.
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