Interlinking blogs in the PBN...what's the harm?

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...IF you're a legit businessman who has several satellite gems with specific info that ALL relates to your money site BUT you "feel the need" to parse it out for a quicker, BETTER user experience?

I think alot of PBN spookiness is either the oldtimers trying to keep the newbies out, OR a misinformation campaign to keep some people chasing their tails.

What's the harm in interlinking one blog to it's "sister blog" or group of sister sites?
#search engine optimization #blogs #harm #interlinking #pbnwhat
  • Yeah thats it. oldtimers are scared stiff the newbies will destroy them in the serps.
  • Depends on how big the network is. Also probably depends how big the company in question is. Totally makes sense for Microsoft to have links from 20 of their properties.

    Does it make sense for some little accountant in Timbuktu to have the same?

    The other thing is just risk. You might think it is perfectly legitimate. However, if that little network comes under a manual review, you are at the mercy of the manual reviewer. All they have to do is decide that they really feel uneasy about one of your sites, so they should probably squash the whole thing. When they are all linked together like that, you are making it easy for them.

    But yeah, there are plenty of legit reasons not to hide such sites and relationships.
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    • yep sure but not very often will one apply to marketers here. Most people have a problem putting up one or two quality sites (really good not just good because its theirs) so the chances are very very small a marketer actually has a multitude of sites that are good linked together.

      I prefer the OP's theory though. Its easy to do and the old timers just want to keep people out. We are busted . Just wait till GOY sees this thread . He's going to be ticked the secret is out that we are trying to keep people out.
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  • I hate to venture into some elses milieu, but what reason would you
    have for doing so? Just because? Or would it make sense?

    If you do this globally, and/or under the wrong circumstances, you
    have just blown yourself up...if a PBN is what you actually want to
    have in what I think a PBN actually is used for.

    All I'm saying, is if you interlink a post on blog x to a post on
    blog y, and there is no reason apparent reason to actually do so,
    then why do it?

    You certainly don't want to link everything to everything else.

    But that's a PBN. I fully know that google knows what sites I own.
    Just like amazon...and they and every big site from wikipedia to
    ebay does it.

    Those are not link schemes. Is a PBN considered a link scheme
    in an abstract or concrete sense? If so, you do not want it to
    look like one at all costs.

    Paul
  • Banned
    I promote all my domains on each site, then again I also have a boat load of organic links on multiple sites so it's not just my own links. I use my links for optimizing where organic links slack (ex: optimized anchor-text).
  • People have a false view of how google operates. If you have legit well done sites, why couldn't you link them together? Well....

    Let's put up the argument that your network of sites truly rock. They're just awesome in all aspects of what Google likes. Google stomping on good sites is fair game because they don't have the goal of treating everyone fairly, just a good top 10.
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    • Big difference between network of sites and private blog network.
      And, of course, there are many sites that link to the other sites in a network. For instance, go to any 'freebie site' and you are likely to see links in the side column urging you to visit their sister 'discount deals site'. Those two sites are owned by one person, not part of a private blog network. Those sites have content that is the purpose for visiting. In other words, those sites are not being used as a part of a PBN - SEO scheme to trick Google into thinking the main/money site is some huge deal.
  • So let me see if I get this straight...

    You have the SEO community who loves to fight with each other, one up each other, and takes a certain degree of pride in proving themselves technically superior to their peers.

    This group of guys that will argue on whether or not it is critical to call something a title tag or a title element, just so that they have the excuse to fight with each other...

    This group of guys that are constantly trying to churn out new methods of their own that the competition aren't using and keep those methods secret to themselves for as long as possible...

    And you're saying that this group of people all got together, communicated openly (but in secret of course), and came to the universal agreement to keep newbies out by creating a "Lie" about the danger of interlinking sites and from the moment of that agreement forward continued to hold their unified position for days, months and years across dozens of forums?

    Really....

    Alright dude, if you are willing to ignore who SEO's are as people and how they communicate with each other on forums to support your theory then there is obviously no convincing you otherwise.

    Beyond that thought, I won't argue with you on it though because in the end, by your interlinking your entire network, you are eventually going to produce the 'Desired' end result that you attribute the rest of us PBN owners as maliciously having which is one less newbie in the game...
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    • Page 12 of the minutes of the last meeting, You were out of it from too many shots of whisky. Your Sean Connery imitation was pretty good though
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      I know many that do just that, heck even SEO companies that inerlink their client sites and that have gotten away with it for many years and still.

      It seems Google has no issue when relevant legit sites interlink.

      Uploading a few articles on a repurposed high PR domain doesn't look very legit to me though, while that's how most IM' ers would do it.

      What does i take to make a site look legit?

      1) A real person or preferrable company behind it
      2) Verified contact details clearly visible on the site
      3) Legit links at Yelp, LinkedIn, Facebook, BBB etc
      4) A domain name that doesn't reveal anything, a persons name would do, assuming that name is consistent on Facebook, LinkedIn etc as well.

      Starts to look pretty much like identity fraud so maybe a persons name domain isn't the best choice either.

      So alltogeher I think it's a bad idea unless you start with brand new domains, powered up by high PR domains, and interlink only the brand new domains.

      A legit business man often doesn't have a PBN of sites, he just has money sites (possibly backed up by a non-interlinked PBN)
  • nik0-

    Yep. Legit expired domain names I scooped up in my niche. My sites will be plenty info-packed and legit.

    But as for "legit" in business. Pretty much no business is 100% ethical (ask Mike Anthony) so we're splitting hairs with this whole "legit" business. Who knows what they really do? All you can do is do your thing or fake it (Mike Anthony) until you make it.
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    • Banned
      Not talking about ethical or not, just legit, a painting business probably has a photo of him next to his van or small warehouse and you'll find him at Yelp with customer reviews, either good or bad. His domain name matches with his Yelp listing and the phone number on his site leads to his cellphone.

      It's pretty hard to fake that when using expired domains don't you agree?

      So the domain name can better be something generic or relevant to your niche as not all manual reviewers are sleeping behind their desk, I bet some love the hunt to revenge whatever bad thing happened in their pathetic life.

      Why else would they work as a snitch for Google.
    • Yawn....a couple weeks ago I would answer in depth but with these new newbs I just don't have the interest. All chat and only have questions ..no knowledge.

      I wonder what Paris is like this time of year. Never been in the winter.
  • Welcome to the new WaFo SEO subforum - a vacant hole of uselessness. At this point, it's only going to get worse and will probably never get better.
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    • I hear you. Moving on to greener pastures for the new year myself. No longer worth the time (when you see me unable to muster a few lines in reply to them you know). When the kiddies have nothing to offer and then add conspiracy theories against the "old timers" its time to make them ask questions and get wrong answers among themselves.

      I know a lot of the group that answers most questions is getting fed up so that day is coming fast.
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  • We promote many my domain names on every single internet site, in spite of this We have the vessel heap of natural and organic backlinks on many sites so it will be besides my very own backlinks. I take advantage of my backlinks with regard to optimizing where natural and organic backlinks slack (ex: optimized anchor-text).
  • I saw that as well Mike....

    Sometimes it's not worth pointing these things out there. Just let him do whatever it is that he thinks he's doing and call it his empire, kingdom, sandhill, whatever....
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  • Banned
    This forum is anal.

    Who cares If you call it PBN or network (or wtf ever...), its still webmaster built links.
  • But do they use title elements or title tags??

    Obviously you know I'm messing with you.
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    Interlinking blogs in the PBN...what's the harm?

    ...IF you're a legit businessman who has several satellite gems with specific info that ALL relates to your money site BUT you "feel the need" to parse it out for a quicker, BETTER user experience? I think alot of PBN spookiness is either the oldtimers trying to keep the newbies out, OR a misinformation campaign to keep some people chasing their tails.