Domain Expiration Clarification

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Is the following true for all domain registrars:

- After expiration date it ends up in a 35 day period where the owner has the chance to get it back (often for a heavy fee)

- In the 10 days that follow the domain ends up in auction.

45 days has passed by now.

Is it true that the registrar holds the domain for another 30+5 days after the auction has ended? Or in other words I'll have to wait 35 days in case I don't pick it up in an auction or backorder it?

I got this info from Bluehost btw.

I just saw some nice domains that I could backorder but I saw no one bid on them, so I thought why not wait a few hours so I can register it for only $10,- instead of paying $69 but I guess that doesn't work that way right?

Fatcow claims it's 30 days redemption period and 5 days deletion period

At Network Solutions I see that domains expired at 4 Dec are still not available to register, has been 45 days already, seems different rules apply everywhere or do I misunderstand anything?
#search engine optimization #clarification #domain #expiration
  • Domain Flipping is a topic in which I have alot of interest and knowledge in, but sadly not enough money to purse yet - On hold for the time being

    Here's how the expiration process works and the steps involved when the owner fails to renew the domain on the given date

    1. Grace Period: As the name sounds, this is a small window of 10-30 days (Depends on the Registrar. Godaddy has a small window while NameCheap has a longer window) where the owner can renew the domain for the normal price.

    2. Registrar Hold/Redemption Period: After the grace period, the domain enters the Registrar Hold (30-45 Days depending on the Registrar), where the registrar would hold the domain so that the owner can renew the domain. During this window, I think the penalty is of $100 + Renewal Fee's (Not sure though).
    At the same time, the domains is also gets available at auction sites such as NameJet, SnapNames, Pool etc. If someone bids and wins the domain, they have to wait till the Registrar Hold period is over. If, however the domain is renewed by the owner, the bidder get's refunded (On some auction sites, you can't cash out the refund, but only use it to buy domains from their platforms)

    3. Pending Delete: If the owner still doesn't renew the domain and it doesn't gets bought at any auction site, the domain enters the Pending Delete phase which is normally of 5 days.
    During this time, the auction sites set a timer and people start bidding on the domains. They get alot of exposure since people would sort out the domains set to expire in a few hours, so the good ones get bidded out.

    If it's even a half-decent domain, you would not get it at $10. If, somehow the domain goes through the Registrar Hold/Redemption Period (Where you can backorder), then it would certainly get bids when it is into the last few hours of it's deletion phase (You can go to Namejet/SnapNames etc and see their domains along with time left in deletion phase on their Homepage - Point is, these domains gets ALOT of exposure.)

    I actually tried to do the same, decent domains got through the RH/RP, but on the final few mins, got bought!

    Moreover, if there are no bids, you still might not get the domains.
    These auction sites like SnapNames, Pool etc hit the servers of Registrars constantly in hopes of catching the dropping domains. If you bidded at Pool, but SnapNames managed to grab the domain, the person over at SnapNames would win the domain.

    Some of these sites are in business with registrars so they get prefrence from their domains, if I remember it right, SnapNames belongs to Web.com, so they get first pick on their domains.

    Lastly, some people also have custom software's built which go out and hit the registrar serves in hopes of catching the domains. So if a domain goes through unnoticed at the auction sites, of these guys might snag it before you and you'd be left scratching your head.

    Finally, if it's a good domain, invest in the $69 !


    A domain is available to re-registrar at the registrar of your choice in 60-90 days from the day of it's expiry date on the Whois records. The days account for Grace Period, Redemption Period and Pending Delete. Depending on the registrar's policy, the amount of days vary.

    Remember, all expired domains go through auction sites so you just can't expect to wait the days out and grab it at $10.. unless you're the only one who see's value init

    Hope this brief explanation helped you out!
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      It doesn't seem that all registrars hold auctions though.

      It seems my broker is one of those with custom softwares, he always has domains that you won't find anywhere else, for example if I look at the dropped ones at expireddomains.net the best you'll find is domains that are PR1-PR2, and fake PR3's. Still he always has a healthy supply of PR3/PR4 dropped ones with sometimes very impressive backlink profiles that he sells for $35-$70 (so this are not back-ordered domains as he's below the $69,-).

      But even then, I don't see those domains pop up at expireddomains.net or DomCop, so seriously wonder how he gets them, obvious I know all the registrars, 20+ but lately most come from one specific registrar that doens't hold an auction, only a $69 back order option they offer.

      I know of one huge lead generator that struck a deal with GoDaddy, the domains that go unnoticed in auctions are first offered in a private way, before they release the rest to the public, like there's a margin in between the good and the poor ones that most are not aware of and only few can make use of through connections..
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  • Those are from a third party vendor Nik and as with any expired domains, due diligence is essential.

    I don't vet any of them and warn everyone to do their own checking.
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      Yes I understood that from Mike Anthony lately, that's why I mentioned you send out the list, not that you sell them. Afterall I do receive those emails with your name attached to it.
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