100 links, to many links.

by alex93
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Hi, i read somewhere that sites which do not descend below 50,000 are penalized for having excessive links totaling more than 100 internally, is there any truth in this in 2015?

Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    50,000 what?
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    • Profile picture of the author alex93
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      50,000 what?
      According to something i read, it stated that Google will penalise sites with more than 100 links if not listed in the top 50,000, i can only assume if this was true that they would use the Alexa ranking, as what else is there?

      Wish i would of kept the article now, did have a look for it, reckon there is any truth in this?

      Edit to add, Moz software warns people also about having more than 100, Google also if i remember right said only if it was spammy, how do we define spammy, why would moz add it, unless it was important, trying to find out as my site reports 142 links, another program is telling me i have 172, SEOQuake is saying i have 89, i cannot for the life of me work out who is correct.
      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

        According to something i read, it stated that Google will penalise sites with more than 100 links if not listed in the top 50,000, i can only assume if this was true that they would use the Alexa ranking, as what else is there?
        Wherever you read that, stop reading everything they write. That is one of the dumber things I have ever heard when it comes to SEO.

        Google does not pay one bit of attention to Alexa. Alexa has nothing to do with search engines.
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        • Profile picture of the author alex93
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Google does not pay one bit of attention to Alexa. Alexa has nothing to do with search engines.

          It didn't state it was Alexa, it stated 50,000, unless Google keep track of sites and ranking algorithmically. It simply stated 50,000, i also wonder why Moz warns against this, must be some truth in this somewhere to a degree.

          I cannot see Moz adding it and telling people, look you have over 100, fix it now just for the hell of it, me thinks.

          Quotes from Moz

          "Google has declared war against the practice of excessive internal linking - which is why SEOmoz warns you about these excessive links within its tools."

          "Like most things SEOMoz informs you about this and you should take it as a very important suggestion, but not necessarily the absolute rule"

          Kinda confusing the last one, some are 2 years old, so might of changed, i just wanted to make sure this was not a big issue.


          Alex
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Many Wikipedia pages have well over 100 internal links. They seem to be doing just fine.

            I would kind of question why you need 142 internal links on one webpage in most cases though. That is greatly diluting the strength of each of those links.

            And by the way, there are a lot of things published on Moz's website that are not really endorsed by Moz.
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            • Profile picture of the author alex93
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              Many Wikipedia pages have well over 100 internal links. They seem to be doing just fine.

              And by the way, there are a lot of things published on Moz's website that are not really endorsed by Moz.
              Agreed, but you are proving my point, Wikipedia is ranked in the top 5 sites, well above 50,000 no matter what metric you use, or they used?
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                Agreed, but you are proving my point, Wikipedia is ranked in the top 5 sites, well above 50,000 no matter what metric you use, or they used?
                50,000 balloons?
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                • Profile picture of the author alex93
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  50,000 balloons?
                  Na.... that's just hot air....
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                  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                    Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                    Na.... that's just hot air....
                    So tell us, 50,000 what?

                    What's the magic number represent?

                    Maybe it's 50K boat anchors?
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                    • Profile picture of the author alex93
                      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                      So tell us, 50,000 what?

                      What's the magic number represent?

                      Maybe it's 50K boat anchors?
                      Iv no idea, as iv said, it did not state, it just said, sites that have more than 100 links and not ranked 50,000 will be punished for excessive linking, once the 50,000 is achieved the number of links is limitless.

                      It sounds like **** but why would Moz advice against to many links, apart from it shrinks pagerank transference, i am not talking about Moz people who write comments, i am talking about people who built Moz and the software.

                      Alex
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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                        Iv no idea, as iv said, it did not state, it just said, sites that have more than 100 links and not ranked 50,000 will be punished for excessive linking, once the 50,000 is achieved the number of links is limitless.

                        It sounds like **** but why would Moz advice against to many links, apart from it shrinks pagerank transference, i am not talking about Moz people who write comments, i am talking about people who built Moz and the software.

                        Alex
                        Moz targets newbies & makes up fake metrics, so yea, it's all expected.
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            • Profile picture of the author alex93
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              I would kind of question why you need 142 internal links on one webpage in most cases though. That is greatly diluting the strength of each of those links.
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              Agreed mate, thanks for the feedback, i am in the middle of sorting it out, my homepage claimed 174 apparently, SeoQuake reporting 61, so no idea, i may have to count them one by one lol (not a happy bunny)
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            • Profile picture of the author alex93
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              That is greatly diluting the strength of each of those links.
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              I wonder if this is why they advise against it, because it deflates pagerank juice, and a strength site highly ranked is strong enough to survive, yet a lower ranked site is not, and will find it harder to attain authority passes less PR.

              It makes me wonder whether my site would of been a PR8, not a PR6, bugger.

              Alex
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                I wonder if this is why they advise against it, because it deflates pagerank juice, and a strength site highly ranked is strong enough to survive, yet a lower ranked site is not, and will find it harder to attain authority passes less PR.

                It makes me wonder whether my site would of been a PR8, not a PR6, bugger.

                Alex
                It doesn't work that way. You don't lose PR by having internal links. The page has certain amount of PR it can pass on which gets distributed among the links on the page. You could have 1 link on your page or 1,000 links on your page. It doesn't impact the PR of that page.

                Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                Agreed mate, thanks for the feedback, i am in the middle of sorting it out, my homepage claimed 174 apparently, SeoQuake reporting 61, so no idea, i may have to count them one by one lol (not a happy bunny)
                It's not that hard if you think the tools are wrong. Bring up the page in the web browser. Hit CTRL + U to bring up the page source code. Hit CTRL + F and type in

                <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/

                See how many occurrences there are of that. Most browsers will say something like "1 of 122."
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                • Profile picture of the author alex93
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  It's not that hard if you think the tools are wrong. Bring up the page in the web browser. Hit CTRL + U to bring up the page source code. Hit CTRL + F and type in

                  <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/

                  See how many occurrences there are of that. Most browsers will say something like "1 of 122."
                  Thanks mate, i was going to select Cache, Text Version, and see how many popped up, will do it your way, might take me a while lol.

                  Alex
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                • Profile picture of the author alex93
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  It doesn't work that way. You don't lose PR by having internal links. The page has certain amount of PR it can pass on which gets distributed among the links on the page.."
                  Yeah, but more links less pagerank on those link, due to more pages in effect, so yeah you dont lose pr, but it is lower on more pages and would be higher on less.
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                    (To the tune of that guy from Nantucket...)

                    I pity the fool at fifty thousand one.
                    He made the mistake of one hundred and one.
                    He thought he was clean,
                    But google was mean,
                    And now his website is over and done.

                    If he'd only known.

                    Paul
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                    If you were disappointed in your results today, lower your standards tomorrow.

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                    • Profile picture of the author alex93
                      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

                      (To the tune of that guy from Nantucket...)

                      I pity the fool at fifty thousand one.
                      He made the mistake of one hundred and one.
                      He thought he was clean,
                      But google was mean,
                      And now his website is over and done.

                      If he'd only known.

                      Paul
                      Excellent. I do like a good rhyme.lol
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

            It didn't state it was Alexa, it stated 50,000, unless Google keep track of sites and ranking algorithmically. It simply stated 50,000, i also wonder why Moz warns against this, must be some truth in this somewhere to a degree.

            I cannot see Moz adding it and telling people, look you have over 100, fix it now just for the hell of it, me thinks.

            Quotes from Moz

            "Google has declared war against the practice of excessive internal linking - which is why SEOmoz warns you about these excessive links within its tools."
            Silly nonsense...

            Google will not slap a site for too many internal links.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrhmamun
    i am not agree with this, as i don't face any problem with my multiple blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author alex93
      Originally Posted by mrhmamun View Post

      i am not agree with this, as i don't face any problem with my multiple blog.
      Is the blog ranked lower than 50,000? (on Alexa)
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