This is why Google banned my site

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Hey Google,

I really, really don't like Google. I would
say more but this is a public forum.

Anyhow, I got this boiler plate explanation.
I do have a PBN and if they said my link were
not good, fine.

But my site (naesv.org) is not jibberish or
pure spam or scraped. I did use and reword
some Wikipedia stuff on 3 pages but the other
pages are original content and good content
at that. I also did not cloak except on some
affiliate product links

From Google:


If you see this message on the Manual Actions page,
it means that Google has detected that some of your
pages may be using techniques that are outside our
Webmaster Guidelines. The site appears to use aggressive
spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish,
cloaking, scraping content from other websites, and/or
other repeated or egregious violations of Google's quality
guidelines.As a result, Google has applied a manual spam
action to the affected portions of your site. Actions that
affect your whole site are listed under Site-wide matches.
Actions that affect only part of your site and/or some
incoming links to your site are listed under Partial matches.




Be Well
Don
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Google got it right. I just read the first few paragraphs on the home page and they do not say anything of substance. No searcher would want that in their search results as its simply not useful to them if they were searching for information on the topic. Looking around the rest of the site, I do not see anything that is actually useful to anyone. If the site had adsense, then this would be called a typical MFA site. Google simply do not believe that their users/searchers would be happy if they got your content in their search results. I agree.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      They are not just talking about your sites. They are talking about your links too.

      You have links coming in from Russian sites and all sorts of other spammed foreign sites.

      They are probably not thrilled that you picked your domain just for the fact that it had some good links coming into it and not because you really wanted to build a site called the National Alliance for Energy, Supplements, and Vitamins. Good job though making those letters fit into something half decent.

      The site originally was the National Alliance to End Sexual Violence.

      I get what you were doing, but then you are going to blame Google for taking action against you? Come on. You knew you were gaming the system.

      I hope you made some good money while it lasted, but please don't try to play the innocent victim card. You were far from innocent in this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        They are not just talking about your sites. They are talking about your links too.
        You have links coming in from Russian sites and all sorts of other spammed foreign sites.
        They are probably not thrilled that you picked your domain just for the fact that it had some good links coming into it and not because you really wanted to build a site called the National Alliance for Energy, Supplements, and Vitamins. Good job though making those letters fit into something half decent.
        The site originally was the National Alliance to End Sexual Violence.
        I get what you were doing, but then you are going to blame Google for taking action against you? Come on. You knew you were gaming the system.
        I hope you made some good money while it lasted, but please don't try to play the innocent victim card. You were far from innocent in this.
        Hi Mike,

        What I was objecting to is them calling my site gibberish,
        cloaked and using scraping. Not true.

        Anyhow, I paid for the site and should be able to use
        the links. Guess not.............

        Be Well
        Don
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        • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
          This is not good content:

          Benefit of good vitamins? Vitamins are very popular in the world today. The benefit of good vitamins are many and in most they do not have any significant side effects. That is because many vitamins have natural ingredients.
          To summarize:

          - Scraped and reworded content
          - Poor content
          - PBN
          - Cloaking
          - Bad backlinks

          and for a bonus taking advantage of a former sexual violence domain.

          Let's get real here. Does it matter if Google imposed a manual penalty? This wasn't going to rank anyway.

          So far you've disagreed with Google and everyone who has posted before me. Feel free to disagree with my assessment too. But you posted here and we can only give you our best opinions. Mine is: if you want to stop wasting time and money, and have sites that rank and make you money, do the opposite of what you are currently doing.

          Thanks for posting and sharing your site and what happened. It is always interesting and educational to see what leads to a manual penalty. I would agree there are far, far worse sites. I'll speculate the manual ban, to ensure the site does not rank, has something to do with less than stellar content trying to take advantage of the prior domain.

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        • Profile picture of the author Winning34
          Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

          Hi Mike,

          What I was objecting to is them calling my site gibberish,
          cloaked and using scraping. Not true.

          Anyhow, I paid for the site and should be able to use
          the links. Guess not.............

          Be Well
          Don
          The content is definitely gibberish. It's obviously been written either by a bot to "spin" it or by a non-native. Either way, it doesn't make any sense to a human.


          You say it's not true you cloaked. But you just admitted it in your OP. Likewise for the scraping when you said you spun some articles from Wiki.

          Definitely thin content, no about page, no contact page, no privacy policy. It's almost a case study of what not to do. It's hardly surprising your site got a penalty.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
            Originally Posted by Winning34 View Post

            The content is definitely gibberish. It's obviously been written either by a bot to "spin" it or by a non-native. Either way, it doesn't make any sense to a human.
            You say it's not true you cloaked. But you just admitted it in your OP. Likewise for the scraping when you said you spun some articles from Wiki.
            Definitely thin content, no about page, no contact page, no privacy policy. It's almost a case study of what not to do. It's hardly surprising your site got a penalty.
            Hi Winning,

            I am human and I can understand it. I edited all the pages. It was
            not "spun". I did reword some WIKI content but only on a
            couple of pages.

            I admit I don't have 50 pages but I do have 17 pages. Is that a
            thin site??

            Be Well
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

          Hi Mike,

          What I was objecting to is them calling my site gibberish,
          cloaked and using scraping. Not true.

          Anyhow, I paid for the site and should be able to use
          the links. Guess not.............

          Be Well
          Don
          The message from Google says...

          it means that Google has detected that some of your
          pages may be using techniques that are outside our
          Webmaster Guidelines. The site appears to use aggressive
          spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish,
          cloaking, scraping content from other websites, and/or
          other repeated or egregious violations of Google's quality
          guidelines.
          See the 'such as' part? It doesn't mean your site is gibberish specifically (although a lot of it is). Those are just examples. This is just a generic email that gets sent out. In the last major round of attacks on PBNs, those who were caught using the PBNs that got taken down received this same message.

          Your problems are offsite more than onsite. It is the links.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

          Anyhow, I paid for the site and should be able to use
          the links. Guess not.............
          You can use it. It's yours.

          What does that have to do with google?

          Absolutely nothing.

          They are not in their business for your business.

          So, go about your business. Simple.

          If google is some make or break for your business, then it really
          wasn't a business. It was a gamble. Like the stock market or
          the ponies.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      Google got it right. I just read the first few paragraphs on the home page and they do not say anything of substance. No searcher would want that in their search results as its simply not useful to them if they were searching for information on the topic. Looking around the rest of the site, I do not see anything that is actually useful to anyone. If the site had adsense, then this would be called a typical MFA site. Google simply do not believe that their users/searchers would be happy if they got your content in their search results. I agree.
      Hi cbpayne,

      Totally disagree. Perhaps the home page is a bit weak but
      there is plenty of useful content.

      You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

      Be Well
      Don
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      • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
        Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

        Hi cbpayne,
        Totally disagree. Perhaps the home page is a bit weak but
        there is plenty of useful content.
        You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
        Google and pretty much everyone posting in this thread agree with "my opinion"!
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        • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
          Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

          Google and pretty much everyone posting in this thread agree with "my opinion"!
          Hi cbpayne,

          I have to admit you are right. Oh, well,I did not think
          my site was bad. I spent a lot of time and money
          putting it together.

          Be Well
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

        Totally disagree. Perhaps the home page is a bit weak but
        there is plenty of useful content.
        Well, where is it?

        I took a glimpse at the front page couple of other articles, and much of those pieces was off-putting. The flow of the text is quite bad, and grammar is at least somewhat lacking - and both of these are offences that are enough to drive a reader away. They're giveaways that the site isn't really worth the time.

        However, it's much worse that every article feels like it was written by a kid still in elementary school. The text only scrapes the surface, and it's nowhere near the the level of an elementary school text book. When it comes to content I'm using this kind of simplified baby talk to explain bodily functions to my 4-yo. You can't expect that your readers don't know what vitamins are, or why they need to eat good food. Their mommy and daddy already told them that, and school put it in greater context.

        Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it. It's artificially generated content even if you generated it by hand, and it's low quality to boot.

        Sure, it's ok to defend your work if there's something to defend, but Google's algorithm (or manual reviewer) unfortunately seems to be spot on. You can improve the site, or ignore Google and come up with another strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikefashen
        Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

        Hi cbpayne,

        Totally disagree. Perhaps the home page is a bit weak but
        there is plenty of useful content.
        No dude. I'm sorry but your site is either spun PLR garbage or you hired someone that isn't too much very good at speaking da eenglish.

        "Benefit of good vitamins? Vitamins are very popular in the world today. The benefit of good vitamins are many and in most they do not have any significant side effects. That is because many vitamins have natural ingredients. However, make sure you do your homework and know the uses for each vitamin."

        Are you totally kidding me with that? First of all why is the first sentence a question. Secondly "the benefit of good vitamins are many and in most they do not..."

        Uhhh ... what?

        And the kicker: "That is because many vitamins have natural ingredients."

        ALL vitamins are ALL natural. Supplements in general are a different story but for something to be called a VITAMIN you are now treading into territory the FDA guards quite jealously and only certain things are allowed to be called "vitamins."

        And no joke, every single page on your site is like that. Every one. Where the word choice and sentence structure don't make the meaning nearly impossible to discern the information provided is something a child would know or else grossly wrong (as in the vitamin example above)

        It really does look like you threw an article spinner at some PLR and google started taking a dim view of that practice something like 5 or 6 years ago at least.

        I don't usually like to rain on someone's parade but you need to look at your site a little more objectively.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
          Originally Posted by mikefashen View Post

          No dude. I'm sorry but your site is either spun PLR garbage or you hired someone that isn't too much very good at speaking da eenglish.
          "Benefit of good vitamins? Vitamins are very popular in the world today. The benefit of good vitamins are many and in most they do not have any significant side effects. That is because many vitamins have natural ingredients. However, make sure you do your homework and know the uses for each vitamin."
          Are you totally kidding me with that? First of all why is the first sentence a question. Secondly "the benefit of good vitamins are many and in most they do not..."

          Yes, thanks, I get it. I am getting numb to the pounding, tho'.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan3
    Why are you complaining when you should be cloning that site on a new domain
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  • Profile picture of the author WildsharkSEO
    You have just admitted that you have used a private blog network to generate links to your site. Google have a zero tolerance rule on PBN's. They even made this fact public when they took down My Blog Guest a while back.

    The fact is - if you have been using PBN's then you cannot complain about getting found out.
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  • Profile picture of the author usmantech
    I think the bad links profile is to blame. The content is not so bad if not of super quality. So basically forget this site and focus on building useful sites without trying to game search engine rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blue445nm
      it's so hard to read that text on your site.

      you should change your font i bet your bounce rate is high
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      • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
        Originally Posted by Blue445nm View Post

        it's so hard to read that text on your site.

        you should change your font i bet your bounce rate is high
        Hi Blue,

        Good point. I just changed it but the change was not good.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    Look at it like this, now your free to blast tons of links to rank pages on Yahoo/Bing.
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    • Profile picture of the author natethegreat7037
      I found the word 'weight loss supplements' fourteen times in that article.

      I know it's important to sprinkle your keyword in your article, but this is a bit overkill. Put yourself in the mind of an end user like me. When I'm after something like 'weight loss supplements' in this case, I understand the article I'm reading. Seeing the same phrase repeated would annoy me rather quickly.

      To put it in perspective, paragraphs 5-7 have that phrase there around 8 times.

      It also seems from what another poster mentioned, that site was previously built around ending sexual violence and built up a good link profile to it. That doesn't help either.

      Google got it right man. Content matters. Domain and link profile also matter. Less is always more.

      I've gotten a site un-banned before. Follow the recommendations google suggests to fix your website, then resubmit for reconsideration. G utilizes over 200+ factors when ranking a site, so tread carefully with how you build them.


      Good luck, man.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Look at it like this, now your free to blast tons of links to rank pages on Yahoo/Bing.
      Hi Yukon,

      True enough. I have some traction on Yahoo. And with
      Firefox using Yahoo, that helps.

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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Look at it like this, now your free to blast tons of links to rank pages on Yahoo/Bing.

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  • Profile picture of the author flukmani
    Look at the other way around!!! Now you can free your Website from spam/harmful links
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  • Profile picture of the author johnniewalk
    Banned
    See If You did not follow the rules and regulation of google then it is your mistake not the google..
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreysloe
    The content on your site is very difficult to read. You don't need to go any further than the first sentence, "Top weight loss supplements for weight loss?" to see some of the problems with the content.

    First off, that first sentence is NOT a sentence, nor is it a question. It's more of a basis statement, best used for a heading, but yet it's like you're asking a question. I didn't need to read any further to see where this content came from.

    Taking your content, and rewriting it using proper grammar, punctuation and sentence structure may help. However, doing that on this domain may not improve your results.

    I agree with Mike Friedman's post that "you were gaming the system". If you want to improve page rank on Google, it's best to follow Google's rules, and I'd probably start with the domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrhmamun
    I think Google is virtual master of world, may be you are on the wrong track.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    I'm sorry you got penalized by Google, but you yourself admit to rewriting content, instead of writing something original and you also admit to link cloaking, even if only "on some affiliate product links". Not all rules are made to be broken.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
      Originally Posted by Slade556 View Post

      I'm sorry you got penalized by Google, but you yourself admit to rewriting content, instead of writing something original and you also admit to link cloaking, even if only "on some affiliate product links". Not all rules are made to be broken.
      Hi Slade,

      I did rework content on 3 pages. The other 14 are all original
      content. Tho' it seems that most think it really sucks!

      Anyhow............

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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    That's just a generic message they send out. Doesn't necessarily mean that your onsite content was the issue. Like Mike said earlier, it is likely a result of your backlink profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author sameon
    This is bad news but what can we do if that's one of Google's rules. Since you admitted that you did some tweaks on your site which is I think is bad for your website then I guess you can't really blame Google for it. Also, I am not a writer and doesn't have perfect grammar but I see some errors especially on the quality of the content as some of the sentences doesn't have a meaning at all as Kindsvater pointed out. Hope we all learn from our mistakes and not commit it again. Goodluck!
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  • Profile picture of the author gripawa
    Google sees what they want and dont see what they dont want,therefore you can amend trying hard while they send same fool email without making any sense,to be honest people I cant ratify this guy was gaming,who on the internet dont base his codes on someone else website,well the first to not do this cast the first stone

    He is a good warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    Gone are the days that you can create these type of sites and believe you can rank with them or even stay indexed in Google. It was a gamble to rank in Google with what looks like a website/content from the around 2004/5, seriously, PLR hosted articles is what this site looks like.

    Shake up the site, completely change the content to content that is awesome and do a resubmission.

    If that fails then start again, but this time with the knowledge that gaming Google in this method is hit and miss and best to avoid and work smarter. Nothing wrong in using a PBN, but you got to do things better.
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  • Profile picture of the author seo3659
    Ya, I told you so many times, Content is king and Relevancy are also very important
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  • Profile picture of the author cabenb
    It looks to me you over did you're back linking. I see a PR6 for your website. For this content I think that is crazy. Many links have the anchor text: "National Alliance to End Sexual Violence" Perhaps that's one of the reasons?

    Google has caught you in the act I think..............
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  • Profile picture of the author shtefcs
    I am not using Warrior much, but when I saw your post in email and read about it, so couldn't resist to help you @Sangroid. I will be direct and honest with you, and give some points. If you follow them as long as many other replays from other people, you might get back into game, understand how things works and update your old outdated IM/SEO software (I mean on your knowledge)

    I can tell you that your site is pure shit/garbage. If there is few clicks report option in browser or google, I would so gladly report your site. You should know that to after reading how many people telling you same thing, but you are acting like a child. Child who try to lie parents, but parents know that child is lying, cause can't hide it. You are to old for that shit, so get serious, stop complaining & lying, and instead ask "Where did I go wrong" or go to https://productforums.google.com/for...ers/categories and people will help you. Like they already doing here in your post, but you are acting ignorant.

    Anyway, this kind of site would maybe work 10 years ago. It's easy to notice that you was following some tutorials/methods with easy "created" content, bought expired domains , fast and shitty links, bad PBN and or some shitty clickbank products or similar. Maybe that is the reason why I don't visit often this forum, cause I always had in mind that is overloaded with bunch of quick, easy, dirty, blackhat, shitty posts and paid ebooks. Maybe that changed in recent years, and I know here is alot of people which know what is doing, doing right away and make profit.


    @MikeFriedman Said everything correct, and it's easy to notice that without even checking backlink profile of your site.

    Cause people already told you what to do, I will not tell u anything more. This replay should shake you up. You can even consider as a slap to wake you up.

    Here is one useful link Panda - Daily News and Inspiration with good digs from quality and good sources. You should check Growth Hacker category and start read and follow the links. Read latest updates, technologies, techniques. And instead creating shitty sites for bots (google), create it for users first, they need to like and find use of ur content, and not just to write some garbage text and to expect something in return ? Thats how is not working my friend!

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    • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
      Originally Posted by shtefcs View Post

      I am not using Warrior much, but when I saw your post in email and read about it, so couldn't resist to help you @Sangroid. I will be direct and honest with you, and give some points. If you follow them as long as many other replays from other people, you might get back into game, understand how things works and update your old outdated IM/SEO software (I mean on your knowledge)
      I can tell you that your site is pure shit/garbage. If there is few clicks report option in browser or google, I would so gladly report your site. You should know that to after reading how many people telling you same thing, but you are acting like a child. Child who try to lie parents, but parents know that child is lying, cause can't hide it. You are to old for that shit, so get serious, stop complaining & lying, and instead ask "Where did I go wrong" or go to https://productforums.google.com/for...ers/categories and people will help you. Like they already doing here in your post, but you are acting ignorant.
      Thanks for the post. It is foul but informative.

      Obviously, if everyone thinks my site sucks, it must be so.

      I actually did outsource the articles (all but 3) and spent a lot
      of time and money on the site.

      I am not going to screw around with trying to "fix it'. Don't have
      the time or money.

      Done the road, I may outsource the SEO or just start over.

      Be Well
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

        I actually did outsource the articles (all but 3) and spent a lot
        of time and money on the site.
        I can believe you did, and unfortunately it's fairly common. Sites don't just build themselves.

        You could try to reorganize the content somewhat, and make the site appear more natural to a casual observer. For example, "real sites" usually don't have entire articles on their front pages. I'm not sure if that's going to help you that much SEO-wise, but shouldn't hurt to try.

        I'd leave the site be, and keep running SERP checkers to see if the situation changes.

        Originally Posted by justf View Post

        Did a google search just with your domain and saw this on the first page.
        It was already established in the thread that the domain was grabbed at some point, and had unrelated site earlier.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    Google has become more and more smarter in recent times, instead of scraping and spinning artcles
    its best to hire a writer to do it manually, it works out better in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
      Originally Posted by hardworker2013 View Post

      Google has become more and more smarter in recent times, instead of scraping and spinning artcles
      its best to hire a writer to do it manually, it works out better in the long run.
      I did outsource all but 3 of the pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeKn1qu3z
    It totally looks you made faults by using automatic tools to create content and links, why not remove tht whole content and start with fresh or hire a wrtier to have unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author justf
    Did a google search just with your domain and saw this on the first page.



    Where did you get the domain.... domain may be blacklisted by Google ??
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  • Profile picture of the author sharif alam
    Now a day, it is very difficult to write original content among the millions of article in internet. But we should have to more careful about to write and post article in our mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author surfer30
    my viewpoint
    Try to Make your website More natural and clearn Moreover healpful to reader
    it seems you are targeting a high volume keyword weight loss supplements

    well my advice write simple content and try to write as you are advising the reader so they like it, when they like it they will share it. when people trust you they will buy from you
    Good luck

    P.S . When you don''t rank you blame google. google doesn't make mistakes .
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  • Profile picture of the author VizyMedia
    Blackhat tricks are easily noticed nowadays
    - Your content should be of high quality, unique, helpful and consistent. It should builds attention engagement and trust.
    - Optimize for 1 keyword per page but write for people not search. Your content is clearly for search not people.
    - Get few, high quality and relevant backlinks. You also missed on this one.

    Hope it helps
    VizyMedia
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    Aggressive is an understatement. You have the keyword Class Action Lawsuits noted 14 times on it's article page.
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