How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

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How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

Note: I was inspired to do this post largely by Xfactor's monsterously generous threads.

I've been doing Adsense for a looong time. It's not my only source of revenue, or my biggest. But it IS my favorite (more on that below).

I see a lot of bad information, bad advice, mis-information. The plain truth is that Adsense can be a terrific way to make money, that it can generate substantial income, and that it isn't really all that hard to do - if you do it 'right'.

With this post, I'll lay out an outline that you can use to get to $100/day with Adsense. While the $100 figure is somewhat arbitrary, it does take time & effort, so there's a limit to what you can do, HOWEVER, nearly everything can be outsourced, so once you understand it, there's no reason you couldn't scale it up almost indefinitely.

Adsense is a 'numbers game'. How much you make is directly proportional to how much traffic you generate, what percentage of that traffic clicks on an ad (your CTR), and how much you earn per click.

This approach is based around niche mini-sites. The general idea is to find 'keyword phrase groups' - niches - that you can rank on Page 1 for quickly. You'll create these sites using well-optimized templates that will give you high click-through rates.

HOW THIS PLAN WORKS

There are 3 "Pivot Points" for this plan:

Traffic
Conversions
Revenues

The first Pivot Point is traffic. For this plan, we're going to rely exclusively on organic, or search traffic. We certainly don't want to pay for traffic (PPC), and 'referral' traffic, such as article resource box clicks, is nice but not where we're going to put our efforts.

Given that we're looking just for search traffic, we are going to focus our efforts on finding keywords/phrases that have good search volume and minimal competition. The goal is to achieve Page 1 SERPS (Search Engine Results Pages) for each target keyword.

The second Pivot Point is conversions. Conversions are the percentage of visitors that click on an ad, plain and simple. The higher the conversions, the more we make. Our target is 5% (1 click per 20 visitors) though it isn't unrealistic to expect 10% or higher.

Conversions are largely dependent on our site layout, and this is one of the keys to the plan. There is no shortage of opinions on layouts i.e. static vs. blog, ad placements, # of ad blocks, etc. What I can say is that I've tested many, many different type of layouts. For the sites I'm talking about here, I've found a particular Wordpress theme that gives me demonstrably better CTR (Click-Through Rates) than any other. The theme is called BlueSense (you can get it here: BlueSense: An Adsense Ready SEO Wordpress Theme). It's a free theme.

Finally, the third Pivot Point is revenues. By this I mean revenues per click. While there's no way to know in advance how much we make per click, and it will vary even for the same keywords/phrases, we DO know that some niches/topics/keyword phrases perform better than others.

Obviously we want to target the highest-paying Adsense clicks we can find.

FWIW, I average $1 per click. Some are higher, some are lower, but that's about average (last week I had TWO clicks that were over $8 - each!).

How do you target high-paying clicks? Think high-CPC keywords. While the CPC isn't what's being paid for ads on the Content Network (where you are showing ads), you CAN get a 'relative' idea.

Some of the 'usual suspects':

Financial - investing, Forex, insurance, foreclosures, mortgages, credit, loans, etc.
Health & Fitness - dieting, weight-loss, quit smoking, cures, etc.
School - vocational schools, training, advanced degrees, scholarships & grants, etc.

You don't want to target the 'primary' keywords, of course, but look for related and/or 'secondary' keyword phrases. And that's where the gold is: there are ZILLIONS of these 'secondary' keyword phrases that are there for the taking! Which brings us to...


KEYWORD RESEARCH

This is the single most important aspect of this plan. The goal is to find relatively high-search-volume, low-competition 'keyword phrase groups'. Each group becomes the basis for a site, with a single page devoted to a single keyword/phrase.

This is not nearly as hard as some might imagine. First, you'll want to get yourself a tool that does basic keyword research, but also gives you 'competition' numbers. I'm a fan of Nichebot (you can sign up for a $1 trial at NicheBOT | Keywords | Keyword Phrases that drive Huge Traffic), but there are plenty. MicroNiche Finder (Micro Niche Finder.) is very well-respected. Market Samurai (Niche Marketing Product - Market Samurai) is another good one and offers a free trial.

My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes).

Realistically, I want search volume over 100/day and competition under 20k. This is not nearly as hard to find as you might think.

BTW, you want to track your SERPS. You can do this with a spreadsheet, but that can be tedious. Traffic Travis (100% Free SEO Software | Traffic Travis) has a free trial, but it's limited to 5 projects, however that should be enough when you're starting out. They also have a 7-day trial of the unlimited version for $5).

RANKING

Note About Ranking: Since we'll be going for organic search traffic, it's important to understand how that works. Where a page is ranked depends on the search term. Assuming your page is properly optimized (on-page optimization - we'll go over that), than where you rank is a function of 'total backlink value'. "Backlink value" is the number of backlinks times the 'rank value' of each backlink. The 'rank value' is Pagerank plus 'Trustrank' of the link itself.

To give you a simplified example: Consider two identical pages. One has 10 PR-1 backlinks. The other has 9 PR-1 backlinks and 1 PR-3 backlink. The second page will rank above the first page. The 'trick' to ranking your page is to get an overall 'total backlink value' higher than the competing pages. If your page has the highest 'total backlink value' than you'll rank first. Second highest will rank second, etc. By optimizing each page, choosing a 'good' domain name, and going after relatively low-competition keyword phrase groups, we'll be able to get those top SERPS listings.

The key therefore is finding high-volume, low-competition keyword phrases, optimizing our pages for them, and building up enough 'backlink value' to get to Page 1 SERPS.

I won't go into a whole backlinking course, but I'll give you a few tips - plus my 'secret weapons'. First, don't worry too much about 'NoFollow' tags - they still count for backlink value, just not as much as if they were 'DoFollow' from higher PR sites. Second, don't worry too much about building backlinks too fast. Unless you're using some automated system to build thousands of backlinks at a clip, this shouldn't be a problem. Remember also that even if you add 100 backlinks in one shot, they are most likely to get indexed much slower over time.

My 'basic' backlinking routine is as follows: When I create a page, I tag it using Onlywire (Bookmark & Share - The Power of the Button | OnlyWire) and submit it separately to StumbleUpon and Digg. I'll also re-write the page somewhat and submit it to Goarticles.

Note on backlinks: where ever possible, I use the targeted keyword phrase as the anchor text, and point it to the appropriate page. Where I can get two backlinks, such as Goarticles, Ezinearticles, etc., I'll use the same anchor text with one link point to the appropriate page, and another pointing to the domain home page.

My Secret Weapons: In addition to the above, I use Comment Kahuna (Comment Kahuna | Free Link Building Software) and Unique Article Wizard (Unique Article Wizard - Submit Unique Content to Hundreds of Websites). Comment Kahuna is free and works well, letting you find as many blogs to add links to as you could want (NOTE: Read the post you're commenting on and make reasonable comments. It's good Karma). UAW is not free, but can get you hundreds of backlinks for any keyword very quickly. I consider it my most valuable paid tool.

You should also be taking advantage of Google's Webmaster Tools. Look at the sites that your backlinks are 'sticking' to and go back to them where possible for other backlinks.

PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER

Research, research, research! Use your keyword tool(s). When you find something promising, make sure you can uncover at least 5-10 related keyword phrases.

Purchase a domain name that has your 'root' keyword/phrase. This is VERY important!

Now create your content. You want to target ONLY 1 keyword per page. Use that keyword in the title and H1 tags (if you're using Wordpress, put it in the post title - that's your H1 tag).

Launch your site. Each day, focus on one of the pages (bookmarks, Digg, etc.). Whatever other tools you are using, UAW, etc., put in the effort and focus on one of your keyword phrases each day.

TIP: You can get decent articles written for $1.50 - $2.00 or so at Amazon Mechanical Turk (https://requester.mturk.com/mturk/welcome) - just MAKE SURE to check them for plaigerism! (just take a few sentences and search them in quotes).

Track your progress!

If you've been careful in your keyword research, you should start to see results in a week or two. Once your site is up and everything is indexed, spend a few minutes each day adding more backlinks for each site.

If you've picked your topics well, you should start to see good results.

Based on 5% conversions and $1/click average, you should be getting $5 per 100 visitors per site per day, with not too much effort once they're built and indexed. If you build two per week, even with these minimum numbers, you'll hit $100/day in just a matter of months.

Good Luck!

Mark

PS - there's a TON of great information to be had reading Xfactor's terrific thread (http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html)!
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  • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
    Well I read your post and it was very informative but it left me wondering.

    I use the google keyword tool and I usually type in 4-5 keyword phrases and then sort by competition. I then base my site around the lower competition words.

    Is this wrong? Are the words with lower competition going to make less per click?

    Am I an idiot and doing EVERYTHING wrong?

    Most of my clicks are below 25 cents. Occasional $1.
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    • Profile picture of the author runner
      Along Google`s algorithms the backlinks play the most important role. Google sees these as votes from other sites to your site. And if the linking site has a high PR, the better.

      You do not seem to put so much weight to this issue. However, if you want to rank high at Google, the backlink amount and the quality must be higher than the site, which you want to beat.

      According to my experience to get first page rankings with the keywords like yours, it takes a lot more time than one or two weeks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kappa
        So, does Google care what your domain name extension is? The .info on namecheap is only $2.98. That was how much I wanted to pay!
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      • Originally Posted by zeehar View Post

        Same things happens with me. I just get clicks within 5-30 cents. Occasionally more than 1$. How could anyone get more than 10$ click. I don't understand.
        Zeehar, Jitterbug,

        While low advertiser competition often means lower cost to "buy" those keywords in Adwords, there will still be a "base" cost. As such, lower competition doesn't necessarily mean low EPC's (Earnings Per Click).

        However, if you have multiple adblocks, then you are probably showing the lowest-cost ads along with the highest-cost.

        Keep in mind also that what you're seeing for CPC's are the costs to advertisers to place ads on the Search Network. Costs for Content Network, which is what you are as an Adsense publisher, are usually a fraction of that. And you are getting only a cut of that.

        Most of my sites average $.50 - $1.00 per click, and at least a third average over $1/click. I'm now getting an occasional $8 and $9 click on some sites that have a $2-$3 average click. I don't say this to brag, but rather to show you that there are plenty of high-payout opportunities.

        If you are successfully targeting "high-payout" niches, and are focusing your pages on high-cost keyword/phrases, then you will be showing those high-EPC ads.

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        • Profile picture of the author m4ster
          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

          However, if you have multiple adblocks, then you are probably showing the lowest-cost ads along with the highest-cost.
          Are you trying to tell us to reduce number of adblocks to show only ads that are giving us more money per click?

          While I understand that could depend on keyword we are targeting, it sounds like logical action if there is big "gap" between money we get per click from fifth and sixth advertiser.

          But just like with pretty much everything else, I guess we should experiment.
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          • Originally Posted by m4ster View Post

            Are you trying to tell us to reduce number of adblocks to show only ads that are giving us more money per click?

            While I understand that could depend on keyword we are targeting, it sounds like logical action if there is big "gap" between money we get per click from fifth and sixth advertiser.

            But just like with pretty much everything else, I guess we should experiment.
            Yes, that is what I'm suggesting.

            When multiple advertisers bid on a keyword, their placement depends on where in the auction their bid is. For instance, the keyword phrase "dog training" has a range between .82 and 3.41 according to Spyfu.

            This means that the top bidder is paying Google $3.41 for Position #1 on a search for that term. Position #2 might be $3.10, while Position #8 might be .85.

            Now while the Search Network costs are different that Content Network, you can use this as a relative guide.

            If you are showing 1 adblock with 4 ads, you will show the 4 'top' ads. If you have 2 adblocks with 4 ads each, the ads in the second adblock will all be lower, hence less expensive for the advertiser, and lower EPC to you.

            By limiting the number of ads displayed, you can insure you are showing the highest-cost, hence highest-EPC ads.

            Of course this also means you may miss an opportunity where an ad doesn't appear, but for most layouts, the majority of clicks come from the same place, much like an 80-20 rule.

            Note: The 'order' of ads is according to the order they appear in the page source code, which means that what looks like the 'first' adblock may not be.

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            • Profile picture of the author carlos123
              Whew! I just spent the last 3-4 hours reading through this entire thread and culling out everything in it that was valuable for potential application and use.

              I don't presently have the discretionary income to invest in John's (XFactor's ebook) though I will have shortly but I wanted to get a head start on all this by sifting through both this thread and John's before I start doing some keyword research.

              If anyone wants what I culled out of this thread...it's quite long but not nearly as long as the thread let me know and I will make it available (probably at my site since it's quite long still...unless someone can tell me how to post it here...I think there is a limit on the size of posts here).

              Thanks to everyone who said anything useful on this thread. I have been familiar with most of the major concepts shared but it's been very encouraging to see them shared in the context of a discussion where people are actually doing something about what they know and making a very good living online through their application.

              Carlos
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              • Profile picture of the author carlos123
                Anybody know if comment Kahuna, a software recommended by Mark, is a Microsoft only Windows based program?

                I run only Linux and won't change to Windows to just run comment Kahuna LOL. They have nothing on system requirements at their site and I don't feel like giving then an email to just find out it won't run on Linux.

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  • Profile picture of the author UBotBuddy
    Mark,

    Interesting layout. I saved it for an offline re-read. We have some parallels I think.

    MSB
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    • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
      So is it dumb for me to be aiming for really low competition keywords if they are just going to be bringing me pennies per click?

      Should I redo my SEO to be based on higher competition keywords so i earn more per click?
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      • Profile picture of the author petevamp
        Originally Posted by jitterbug978 View Post

        So is it dumb for me to be aiming for really low competition keywords if they are just going to be bringing me pennies per click?

        Should I redo my SEO to be based on higher competition keywords so i earn more per click?
        This is why a wordpress blog is your best bet. I take the high paying keywords and use on the main blog index. I then use the lower competition keywords with good search volume. For my post on the blog. I just recently started one this way which is getting around 1 click per 10-18 page views. Granted most of the keywords are low paying keywords. How ever the more work and the more content I place there the more traffic it gets. More traffic means more clicks if it holds true to my current 1 click per 10-18 page views. I also use this blog to post the occasional clickbank product with in the niche. Also since I always also build a sales/review page selling clickbank, paydotcom, and click2 sell products. I make money off sales of these products as well. Which at present the lowest paying product commissions I make for these products is right around 50$ per sale. So even if the adsense does not get any better. I am still currently getting about 3$ from adsense for low paying keywords and a sale or 2. As another note too. I do run a ppc campaign how ever this goes directly to the sales page. I then have a link to the blog area from the sales page. As a way to keep them on the site longer. The more pages they view and not find what they are looking for the more chances I have at them clicking on an ad that pops up.

        The one thing I do not have that I do have on my other blogs is the ads in the actual post itself since it was interfering with my theme. I do however have one 600 virticle banner adsense ad 1 linked adsense ad and 1 200virticle adsense ad. The 600 virticle banner ad is right below all the categories on one side. Then the 200 and the link on the other side right at the top. I also added affiliate links which I would get paid per lead.
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  • Profile picture of the author UBotBuddy
    No its not dumb.

    I do that but I deflect that traffic to my sites that have higher value clicks. When they come to my site I tell them "Hey, you were looking for this but I also found this on another site."

    Guess, what it works!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
    Thanks for the informative post Mark. One question on your target keywords: when you say 50/day or 100/day, are you meaning broad match or exact?
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  • @jitterbug, within Google's keyword tool you can show a column for "Estimated CPC" - this will give you a rough *relative* idea of that keyword/phrase value. The amount you're seeing is what you'd pay to advertise via Adwords, but you can use it as a relative measure. If it's shows .05, you know it isn't worth targeting. On the other hand, if it shows $1.85, while you won't get that for a click, it's probably worth targeting versus .05.

    Also keep in mind that you aren't interested in Advertiser competition, but rather search competition. Having low search competition doesn't mean you'll make less per click at all.

    @Ben, search volume is always phrase match. What you are looking for are the searches that your page will be optimized for.

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    Thanks for a very beneficial post, I was looking for such a theme.
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  • @blackscorpion,

    I've tested probably 20 different Adsense themes, and tested many against static page layouts as well. I consistently get the highest CTR with BlueSense.

    One thing I should mention thats very important, and that's the type of site you're creating.

    I do a little excercise where I create a profile, or mental image of my potential visitor, and imagine what they're expecting to see.

    My best-performing sites are informational, and those are the sites that BlueSense works best for.

    As an example, I might create a site around a particular type of vocational school. The person searching those keyword phrases wants to reach an informational site. Not one with a lot of pictures, or a magazine-style layout.

    Ideally, if I've optimized for a particular phrase, say "paralegal training course", the person typing that in wants to land on a page taking about how to find, where to find, how much it costs, etc., something along those lines.

    BlueSense is beautifully optimized for that searcher profile.

    And if I'm really clever, I'll have a page optimized for that phrase, with a mediocre article so that when they land there, they feel like they landed on the 'right' page for their query, read the article, not be completely satisfied, and click on one of the ads which will have been well-optimized for exactly that.

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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Just to note - if you are earning over $100 with adsense, try adding cpa offers too - your earnings could skyrocket
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  • @ChrisBa, that's not necessarily the case. Optimizing for Adsense is much different than optimizing for CPA or affiliate offers.

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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    This post takes me back to the 'good old days' of the Warriors. Lots of excellent content, based upon real experience and no hidden agenda.

    Great effort.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author Firstrate
      This is a fantastic post and one of the best ones I've come across in a good while on here. I think I love you. Thank you so much for the value - you've really inspired me to get going on this and get some sites up. I just had a couple of quick questions:

      1. How many articles or pages do you feature on each page and do you just leave them be after you've set them up? (Of course still backlinking them)

      2. Do you make any real effort to polish them at all (header, blogroll etc) because I have used the Bluesense theme quite a lot and it's not a real looker (I know that's not the point!)

      3. Have you experimented with autoblogging techniques at all with these?

      4. If you have like 10 student loan phrases that match the criteria (100+ phrase searches with less than 20000 competition), how do you decide which is the main keyword for the URL and which ones you will just write articles on?

      5. Using these techniques is it realistic to aim for around 100 sites generating around $1 each a day?

      Thank you so much,

      Adam
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      • Profile picture of the author Dimebag
        Hi,

        Great advice so far, really appreciate it.

        With regards to your backlinking method - you say you spend a day on each page with anchor text etc. How many links are you obtaining each day? Are you going all out and using your article submission software for each keyphrase each day? Is this not a bit aggressive to start with?

        So roughly how many links do you obtain per page on a typical new site and is each pages backlinking completed in one day?

        Thanks
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      • Originally Posted by Adam Bunch View Post

        This is a fantastic post and one of the best ones I've come across in a good while on here. I think I love you. Thank you so much for the value - you've really inspired me to get going on this and get some sites up. I just had a couple of quick questions:

        Great questions, Adam.


        1. How many articles or pages do you feature on each page and do you just leave them be after you've set them up? (Of course still backlinking them)
        If you're using Wordpress, there are two ways you can do this. You can create 'posts' or 'pages'. What I've found works best is to create a 'page' as your main keyword 'target' - the page you're going to try and push up in the SERPS. I'll then use 'posts' to add content over time, always including a link in each 'post' to it's target 'page'. Not only does this boost your on-page SEO, but you avoid diluting our efforts by having 'competing' posts vying for ranking versus focusing all your linking efforts on a single page.

        2. Do you make any real effort to polish them at all (header, blogroll etc) because I have used the Bluesense theme quite a lot and it's not a real looker (I know that's not the point!)
        That's a great point. In fact, we DON'T WANT a 'looker' as you say.

        Here's where 'profiling' comes in handy. Who is our 'target' visitor? What were they trying to accomplish when they entered their search query?

        For these types of informational sites, our target visitor is looking for specific information - not a review, product description, etc. What we want is for that target visitor to see our listing in Google (this is where your "meta description" is so important), click on your page, get there, see the answer to their query in the title of the post, and say "yup, that's what I'm looking for".

        They should get some good information from the post, but not so much that they're satisfied and move on to something else, but rather still questioning enough to want more and click an ad.

        3. Have you experimented with autoblogging techniques at all with these?
        My thoughts about autoblogging are that they create too obvious a footprint, that it's too easy for Google to create filters - which they definitely will do - and de-index or at least drop your SERPS ranking.

        In my mind, that's part of the "how to get something for nothing" school of thought - trying to 'beat' the system, so to speak, by finding 'easy push-button systems' that have no long-term viability.

        I wouldn't risk my Adsense account, let alone put time & effort into something that is guaranteed to have a very limited shelf-life.

        4. If you have like 10 student loan phrases that match the criteria (100+ phrase searches with less than 20000 competition), how do you decide which is the main keyword for the URL and which ones you will just write articles on?
        I actually look for keyword phrase groups like that. Then each becomes a page that I'm going to promote. In total, they will comprise that niche site.

        Ideally, there will be some common-denominator root keyword that I can use in my URL, or at least one that appears in most of the keyword phrases.

        5. Using these techniques is it realistic to aim for around 100 sites generating around $1 each a day?
        Sure, why not? However in my experience, if you've picked your niches carefully, you're getting appx. that much per click, which would mean only 1 click/day/site. Any ranking efforts should get you better than that.


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        • Profile picture of the author vema123
          [quote]
          If you're using Wordpress, there are two ways you can do this. You can create 'posts' or 'pages'. What I've found works best is to create a 'page' as your main keyword 'target' - the page you're going to try and push up in the SERPS. I'll then use 'posts' to add content over time, always including a link in each 'post' to it's target 'page'. Not only does this boost your on-page SEO, but you avoid diluting our efforts by having 'competing' posts vying for ranking versus focusing all your linking efforts on a single page.
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          My site is using WP, and I've made 50 posts in it, each lower post links to the upper posts. Am I doing the right thing? I mean, do I also get the SAME impact as the linking technique you're using (..create a 'page'...then use 'posts' to add content over time, always including a link in each 'post' to it's target 'page'...)?

          Thank you, Mark
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          • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
            thanks a lot, Im gonna try the comment kahuna thing :rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author rocketmail009
              Hi. Now how much you're earning? For being over a year in adsense, you should make atleast some $/day... You should Learn, Test and Expertise in this field to make such money...
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          • [quote=vema123;1005768]

            My site is using WP, and I've made 50 posts in it, each lower post links to the upper posts. Am I doing the right thing? I mean, do I also get the SAME impact as the linking technique you're using (..create a 'page'...then use 'posts' to add content over time, always including a link in each 'post' to it's target 'page'...)?

            Thank you, Mark
            When you do this, you are diluting your ranking 'juice' across multiple pages. The reason to use a 'page' as your target ranking page is to concentrate your ranking efforts to a single page. Use your 'posts' to point to your target 'page'.

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            • Profile picture of the author Marigold
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              When you do this, you are diluting your ranking 'juice' across multiple pages. The reason to use a 'page' as your target ranking page is to concentrate your ranking efforts to a single page. Use your 'posts' to point to your target 'page'.

              Mark
              So what you are telling is that I should have pages for my categories and then continue to add posts to that page?
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    • Profile picture of the author cryterium
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      This post takes me back to the 'good old days' of the Warriors. Lots of excellent content, based upon real experience and no hidden agenda.

      Great effort.

      Pearson
      Hi, I had a look to yout link about english grammar lessons, and I must say it has been a help to me I will share with my friends in facebook!!

      Greetings from Spain
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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    Hi,

    This post was extremely informative, especially for a Newbie like me. I actually have someone who works for me, who is an SEO Exec. (6 months in the field of SEO).

    Together we are trying to put up a few sites, and work on them to monetize them.
    Your post will definitely help.

    A problem we have been facing is that we have not been able to to get over 100 uniques per day. No matter what we do, the average stays the same, on all 3 sites.
    I do have to rearrange the sites, as the layouts arent too user friendly.
    But i still cant understand why our uniques never go above 100.

    Along the way, i may have a couple questions..hope you'd be able to answer them.
    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author dv8
      Originally Posted by WG Concepts View Post


      A problem we have been facing is that we have not been able to to get over 100 uniques per day. No matter what we do, the average stays the same, on all 3 sites.
      I do have to rearrange the sites, as the layouts arent too user friendly.
      But i still cant understand why our uniques never go above 100.

      Along the way, i may have a couple questions..hope you'd be able to answer them.
      Thanks
      Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but your problem is traffic. Not website layout.

      Did you pick a niche that had enough traffic to make this site worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author capone2009
    ya nice report. the only problem is to get good topic ideas.
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      ohh cool ,
      Very interesting report , thank for share with us.
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    • Profile picture of the author SakeSushi
      Originally Posted by capone2009 View Post

      ya nice report. the only problem is to get good topic ideas.
      as per intermarketer99 states, do your keyword research to get good topic (=

      that the part that takes the most time. To me, keyword research is part of seo, takes up 70% of my time in doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Travis Clark
    I would like to thank you very much for taking the time to share this information with everyone. I have saved this thread for reference and sure I will be coming back to it time and time again.

    Greatly appreciated
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    IM99, great thread. Xfactor inspired a lot of people.
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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    Alright, i have done pretty much as you said..and this is what i have come up wth..
    Can anyone tell me if these statistics are good enough for the keyword selection??


    Search Volume
    Estimated CPC
    competition



    Search Volume Est. CPC Competion
    Keyword 1 18100 15.12 135000

    keyword 2 50000 27.65 391000

    keyword 3 1300 35.61 14000

    keyword 4 9900 23.79 825000

    keyword 5 14800 28.83 47700

    keyword 6 1300 22.64 71400

    keyword 7 3600 13.53 25200

    keyword 8 390 28.4 49800

    keyword 9 6600 62.69 1400000




    Would appreciate all inputs..thanks!!
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  • @WG - what tool are you using? What is the match type for the competition numbers?

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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    im a total newbie have no idea what you just asked me.
    I used keyword tool, to get the CPC (But i think they might be wrong..too high).
    Search volume, i also got from Google keyword tool.
    Regarding the competition, i used the keyword and did a simple search on google, and on the top right hand corner, the number that came up there, i used as the competition...

    Is that the right way to do it??
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  • @WG - to get a better idea of your competition numbers, take your keyword phrase, put it in quotes, and search. The number you get back will be a rough number you can use for comparison sake. Using that method, for this plan you want to see numbers under 40k.

    That said, it will take some time and work to rank well at those numbers. My advice would be to spend some time looking for new/different keyword phrases and keep trying them. You will come across keywords with far lower numbers if you keep at it.

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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    after putting the key word in "quotes" on google, and then doing the search, the competition numbers are MUCH LOWER...ranging from 194 to 45000.
    1 of them is higher...118,000. but the rest are much lower.
    Do you think this is good enough?
    I really appreciate all the information and guidance.
    Thanks once again.
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  • @WG - looks like you've found some good keywords!

    I'd skip the 118k as you probably realize. 194 is terrific is there's reasonable search volume.

    Now you just have to begin!

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    • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
      Thanks...What a thrill!!
      Im gonna get started on this tomorrow (its 3am here - India).

      As i mentioned before, im sure i will have more questions as time goes on..
      looking forward to more valuable inputs from you!
      Much appreciated!

      WG
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Does the PR of the sites that come up in the search not come into the calculation at all, or did I just miss that in your post?

    I have been following another persons formula on this research and finding the low hanging fruit that fits the search and competition criteria is just about to send me out of my head. Nothing I look at pans out. I even bought a list of keywords in a WSO recently and even those have strong competition. I am starting to think that there are no low competition key words left.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAtHomeCouple
      There's tons of keywords, it's never ending, really... Think of it this way. There are currently 1 million words in the English language. A keyword or phrase is simply a combination of selected words. That's a lot of keywords! If you're not finding any within the particular niche you've chosen, move on to the next.. You'll eventually start to discover trends and plenty of availability to take top SERPs in tons of markets.

      Keep on chuggin! You'll eventually hit it.
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  • @Tim - by itself, PR is irrelevant, however 'total backlink value' is very relevant.

    If all other factors were equal (i.e. onpage optimization, domain name, domain age, etc.), than ranking would be in order of total backlink value. Now of course all other factors will never be exactly equal, but if we've selected a good domain name and do the 'basics' for onpage optimization (title, H1 tag, content), then it becomes simply a matter of boosting our total backlink value higher than our competitors.

    The value of a backlink is essentially it's Pagerank plus it's Trustrank. If we could somehow total our competitors backlink value, we'd know exactly what we need, but that's difficult.

    If you use Traffic Travis (above), it has a very nice feature to show you your competitors total backlink value as PR, high-value links, etc. You can use this as a rough gauge as to whether a keyword phrase is worth the effort or a futile excercise.

    You can also use Yahoo Site Explorer to look at the competing page's backlinks (use backlinks to the page you're trying to beat, not the domain).

    Often you'll be surprised to see your targets aren't that hard to beat.

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  • Profile picture of the author vema123
    Very nice posting you've got here. Basically I've done almost all the things you've said in your post, except for Comment Kahuna, but I'll do the comment kahuna thing very soon.

    By the way, I don't really understand with what you mean with: '... Launch your site. Each day, focus on one of the pages (bookmarks, Digg, etc.)....'
    Does it mean that after launching our site, we just submit each page or post to social bookmark sites (Digg, etc..)?

    So basically after we do the SEO on page we just make content, and submit to social bookmark sites, and look for more backlinks?

    Thank you
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    • Originally Posted by vema123 View Post

      Very nice posting you've got here. Basically I've done almost all the things you've said in your post, except for Comment Kahuna, but I'll do the comment kahuna thing very soon.

      By the way, I don't really understand with what you mean with: '... Launch your site. Each day, focus on one of the pages (bookmarks, Digg, etc.)....'
      Does it mean that after launching our site, we just submit each page or post to social bookmark sites (Digg, etc..)?

      So basically after we do the SEO on page we just make content, and submit to social bookmark sites, and look for more backlinks?

      Thank you
      When I launch a site, it generally has 10-20 target keyword/phrases, each as a 'target' page (a page I'm trying to rank).

      When I launch the site, I'll Digg and SB the home (index) page. Once the site is indexed (as soon as it shows up using "site:domainname.com"), I then begin my ranking efforts.

      Each day I'll focus on one page of the site, Digg'ing, SB'ing, etc. The next day I'll move on to the next page, etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
    Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

    Some of the 'usual suspects':

    Financial - investing, Forex, insurance, foreclosures, mortgages, credit, loans, etc.
    Health & Fitness - dieting, weight-loss, quit smoking, cures, etc.
    School - vocational schools, training, advanced degrees, scholarships & grants, etc.

    You don't want to target the 'primary' keywords, of course, but look for related and/or 'secondary' keyword phrases.
    Can you explain a bit more about what you mean by this? Please use one of your examples, like weight loss or insurance.

    Thanks!
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    • Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

      Can you explain a bit more about what you mean by this? Please use one of your examples, like weight loss or insurance.

      Thanks!
      Ok - weight loss.

      The primary keyword has millions of competing pages.

      "weight loss programs", still millions of competing pages.

      "list of weight loss programs" - appx. 300 daily searches, under 30k competing pages.

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      • Profile picture of the author andyj00
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        ...."list of weight loss programs" - appx. 300 daily searches, under 30k competing pages.

        Mark
        Thanks for the interesting thread, very informative.
        Just a quick question, what tool are you using to find the 300 daily searches for "list of weight loss programs"? I've just tried the keyword in MNF and got 880 per month (or 30 a day)??

        Thanks.
        Andy
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        • Originally Posted by andyj00 View Post

          Thanks for the interesting thread, very informative.
          Just a quick question, what tool are you using to find the 300 daily searches for "list of weight loss programs"? I've just tried the keyword in MNF and got 880 per month (or 30 a day)??

          Thanks.
          Andy
          Hi Andy,

          As per my OP, I primarily rely on Nichebot.

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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    Hi, me again.
    1 more query. When i do a search in Google Adwords Keyword Tool, do i do a broad match ? i have been using broad match to understand the number of searches for the terms that come up. Is that precise? or do i have to use Phrase, Exact or Negative??

    Thanks..
    WG
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by WG Concepts View Post

      Hi, me again.
      1 more query. When i do a search in Google Adwords Keyword Tool, do i do a broad match ?
      WG
      Most people recommend using phrase match for the search. The broad match is pretty broad and will give you numbers for things that don't match your keyword very well at all. If any of the words are in there, in any order, that counts for broad. If you use phrase, then the words you choose has to be in there in that specific order, but there might be words in front or behind. Which for most folks works best. If you use exact match, then it has to match exactly with nothing more or less. You will miss quite a few possible matches with this, in my opinion.

      For all around best, I believe that phrase match is the best selection.
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  • Profile picture of the author WG Concepts
    I also notice that the local searc is sometimes higher than the global search? How is that possible?
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  • @ me again - You want to use either phrase or exact match. Broad match won't give you any real clue to competition. I find phrase match gives me a better picture than exact match, which often misses pages that are optimized for very similar but not exact phrases.

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  • Profile picture of the author sunkee
    Very Very inspiring, I have been using some of this stuff, now gonna try some more of it thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Mark,

      Awesome information you have presented here on this post. I have a few questions regarding the setup of the site.

      Let's say for example my root keyword is "weight loss" and I found 10 keywords with that root keyword in there that have 2000 searches a month and under 40K competing sites. Let's say they are "mens weight loss" "healthy weight loss" "weight loss diet"..etc...up to "keyword10 weight loss."

      So based on those keywords which one should I pick for the domain name? Should I pick an 11th keyword that passes criteria to use for the domain name or can I just use something like "weightlossguide.com" where it will have the root keyword, but necessarily any search volume?

      Next question is should we setup a broad homepage (www.url.com) that discuss weight loss in general and then have 10 more pages (www.url.com/KW2, www.url.com/KW2, etc..) with each of the 10 keywords (so 11 pages total not including the about, privacy, etc. pages)? Or will the homepage be just one of the 10 keywords we are targeting?

      So we setup the Wordpress theme and do pages with each keyword, not posts correct?

      So let's say I have 10 pages now (or 11 if we put up a general weight loss content for the homepage), do we also put up posts like you mentioned in your earlier post where you are linking back to each of the keyword pages? Why can't we just put in a link from each page back to the homepage?

      Do we need to pick more keywords for the posts or use the same keywords, but have slightly different content?

      One last question did you modify the BlueSense theme for your sites? Where are you putting your Adsense code...under your post titles, above them, at the end of the article, right column, left column?
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisnyce
    How much easier is it to have a keyword tool such as MNF or Samurai? Does it save significantly more time than just bouncing between the keyword tool and google search?
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    • Profile picture of the author tomo
      Great post, thank you very much. I have been working on my adsence site for 2 months now. Still having trouble getting traffic to my site i will put these steps in place and post again in a few months. once gain thanks allot.

      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author tomo
        Hi Mark, Just been putting some of your recommended steps in place, one quick question, two days ago I signed up to profitmiracle, can you tell me if this is similar to Article Wizard, don't want to sign up to two of the same seo tools.
        Kahuna is a great and very easy tool to use. just spent 20 mins on it and I feel I just about have it sorted. that's make a change from allot of the free marketing tools available online.

        Thanks in advance.
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      Amazing! Thanks a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author richardmathew
      The posting is really very good and clear. But I have one thing to clarify who to place ads which pay more per click. Please any one could tell me more clearly.
      Hoping for the best reply from you all guys.

      Thank you
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      • Originally Posted by richardmathew View Post

        The posting is really very good and clear. But I have one thing to clarify who to place ads which pay more per click. Please any one could tell me more clearly.
        Hoping for the best reply from you all guys.

        Thank you
        Hi Richard,

        This is from the first post:

        How do you target high-paying clicks? Think high-CPC keywords. While the CPC isn't what's being paid for ads on the Content Network (where you are showing ads), you CAN get a 'relative' idea.

        Some of the 'usual suspects':

        Financial - investing, Forex, insurance, foreclosures, mortgages, credit, loans, etc.
        Health & Fitness - dieting, weight-loss, quit smoking, cures, etc.
        School - vocational schools, training, advanced degrees, scholarships & grants, etc.

        You don't want to target the 'primary' keywords, of course, but look for related and/or 'secondary' keyword phrases. And that's where the gold is: there are ZILLIONS of these 'secondary' keyword phrases that are there for the taking!


        Basically, you would target niches and keyword/phrases in those niches that have very high ad costs.

        Hope that helps ~

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    • Profile picture of the author cremedwheat
      Thanks for some great information because it makes sense and its something I can accomplish with a couple of my sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author NicheCowboy
        Mark,

        killer thread!

        Let's toss around a few keywords and if you don't mind, let us know if you'd pursue them or not.

        "cheap car insurances"

        MNF 1600 searches a month, 20,000 in quotes, $30+ adwords spend, SOC of 6 (green). The "intitle" count is 80.

        A million of similiar keywords like this are out there, except the top 10 SERPS (esp for the insurance industry!), are full of PR 4+'s.

        Would you go after this one?

        Here's another,

        "cheap car insurance rate"

        Again, looks too good to be true in MNF. Soc of 17, 31,000 in quotes matches, $28 adword spend, and 81 "intitle" count.

        Still, lots of pr 4's and 5's in the top 10 SERPS.

        I use SEO Quake firefox pluggin to check out the top 10 for all my keywords, and the comp. looks stiff on these two.

        Why are why wouldn't you target either of these two keywords.

        Pearson

        P.S. What do you use to tell you the # of backlinks? What exactly lets you determine if a top 10 serps is too tough to crack or not?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
          Hello Mark,

          I have been busy setting up my empire of what you taught us . However, as I was sparing through the thread,giving us a little input from the perspective below would be highly appreciated.....


          Thanks in advance.....



          Originally Posted by NicheCowboy View Post

          Mark,

          killer thread!

          Let's toss around a few keywords and if you don't mind, let us know if you'd pursue them or not.

          "cheap car insurances"

          MNF 1600 searches a month, 20,000 in quotes, $30+ adwords spend, SOC of 6 (green). The "intitle" count is 80.

          A million of similiar keywords like this are out there, except the top 10 SERPS (esp for the insurance industry!), are full of PR 4+'s.

          Would you go after this one?

          Here's another,

          "cheap car insurance rate"

          Again, looks too good to be true in MNF. Soc of 17, 31,000 in quotes matches, $28 adword spend, and 81 "intitle" count.

          Still, lots of pr 4's and 5's in the top 10 SERPS.

          I use SEO Quake firefox pluggin to check out the top 10 for all my keywords, and the comp. looks stiff on these two.

          Why are why wouldn't you target either of these two keywords.

          Pearson

          P.S. What do you use to tell you the # of backlinks? What exactly lets you determine if a top 10 serps is too tough to crack or not?
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    • Profile picture of the author judelive1986
      How much easier is it to have a keyword tool such as MNF or Samurai? Does it save significantly more time than just bouncing between the keyword tool and google search?
      It is very easy as long as you watch the training video. Like Samurai, you can you tube it. It saves time and effort as long as you know your product.

      Dude, thank you for this very informative post...continue on doing this..thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author nofearman
        What tool are you referring that provides backlink "stickyness" as mentioned below?

        "You should also be taking advantage of Google's Webmaster Tools. Look at the sites that your backlinks are 'sticking' to and go back to them where possible for other backlinks."
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        • I'm not sure I understand your question.

          Google's Webmaster Tools, which is a free Google application that you access from your Google account, will show you the backlinks it has found to your site.

          These are the only ones that Google is counting towards your "Total Backlink Value", meaning the links that are helping your ranking.

          Since you know these links are "sticking", where possible you can go back to those sites to add additional backlinks.

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          Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

          What tool are you referring that provides backlink "stickyness" as mentioned below?

          "You should also be taking advantage of Google's Webmaster Tools. Look at the sites that your backlinks are 'sticking' to and go back to them where possible for other backlinks."
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          • Profile picture of the author nofearman
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            I'm not sure I understand your question.

            Google's Webmaster Tools, which is a free Google application that you access from your Google account, will show you the backlinks it has found to your site.

            These are the only ones that Google is counting towards your "Total Backlink Value", meaning the links that are helping your ranking.

            Since you know these links are "sticking", where possible you can go back to those sites to add additional backlinks.

            Mark
            Yes, I use Webmaster tools. I meant what "function" are you referrring. BUt, I think you answered my question. I thought maybe a special function that displays "sticky" backlinks.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            I'm not sure I understand your question.

            Google's Webmaster Tools, which is a free Google application that you access from your Google account, will show you the backlinks it has found to your site.

            These are the only ones that Google is counting towards your "Total Backlink Value", meaning the links that are helping your ranking.

            Since you know these links are "sticking", where possible you can go back to those sites to add additional backlinks.

            Mark
            Great Great suggestion. I don't know if I am dense or what, but where do I find this in my Google Webmaster Tools?

            Thanks

            Seb
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            • Profile picture of the author kingside
              Originally Posted by Sebulba View Post

              Great Great suggestion. I don't know if I am dense or what, but where do I find this in my Google Webmaster Tools?

              Thanks

              Seb
              On the left hand side of Webmaster Tools click "Your Site on the Web" and then "Links to your site"
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  • @mrtrance - you bring up a good point. I create a homepage that incorporates all of my target keyword phrases, usually a 400-500 word page. I then set WP to display that as the home page.

    Each keyword phrase gets it's own page. Beyond that, I add posts regularly, 'rotating' the keyword list.

    @chrisnyce - it is FAR easier. While you could do it 'manually', it would eventually become too time-consuming and tedious, at least for me.

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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      While you could do it 'manually', it would eventually become too time-consuming and tedious, at least for me.
      Which do you personally prefer -- MNF or Samurai?
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      • Profile picture of the author lonniewa2
        I vote for MNF because it give you want you need the fastest with less fuss.

        thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      @mrtrance - you bring up a good point. I create a homepage that incorporates all of my target keyword phrases, usually a 400-500 word page. I then set WP to display that as the home page.

      Each keyword phrase gets it's own page. Beyond that, I add posts regularly, 'rotating' the keyword list.

      @chrisnyce - it is FAR easier. While you could do it 'manually', it would eventually become too time-consuming and tedious, at least for me.

      Mark
      Mark,

      So if you are making the post on the homepage/index to incorporat the target keywords what do you put for the title of that page when the homepage is listed in the SERPs? We know that if a internal page is ranked it will have the keyword for that page as the title, but what about the homepage?

      Say on your homepage you have incorporated the keywords "mens weight loss", womens weight loss", fast weight loss", etc.. and also have pages targeted for each of these keywords what would put as title of the index page when the homepage is showing up in the SERPS?

      Would you use the root keyword (in this example "weight loss") and name it like "Weight Loss Guide and Resource?" Or do you use a more targeted keyword (another 3 word length keyword) with low comp/high search volume as the title so that it will rank since using "weight loss" as the index title it will be difficult to rank for it initially.
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      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      @mrtrance - you bring up a good point. I create a homepage that incorporates all of my target keyword phrases, usually a 400-500 word page. I then set WP to display that as the home page.
      How do you set WP to display a Homepage of your own creation?

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  • As I wrote in my OP, I use Nichebot most heavily.

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  • I never mix Adsense sites with affiliate sales. The focus is completely different, and I would have to compromise one or the other - or both.

    I have plenty of affiliate sites, but their form, structure, and content are very different.

    In my own experience, if you want to maximize your Adsense earnings, you have to optimize for Adsense.

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    • Profile picture of the author petevamp
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      I never mix Adsense sites with affiliate sales. The focus is completely different, and I would have to compromise one or the other - or both.

      I have plenty of affiliate sites, but their form, structure, and content are very different.

      In my own experience, if you want to maximize your Adsense earnings, you have to optimize for Adsense.

      Mark
      I do have it optimized for adsense however I point them to my sales page say every 3-4th post or I simply pick a keyword related to the click bank product which is cloaked using a redirect from my own site to the clickbank site. They will do one of 2 things

      They will either go to the site I provided them with. If they did not like that they will browser back. Thus making them view more of my pages also with the more pages they view if I do not have a product link in the post sooner or later they will see an ad that is what they where wanting. This has worked very well for me and I have done this with every single blog I currently. My first goal is always picking the higher paying keywords so to pull up those ads. Second I focus my articles around the products.

      Most people will always use the browser back if they are using the search engines to find what they are looking for. Another point I would like to make out of the newest one. Which currently gets around 100 visitors a day in less then 2 weeks. This blog gets around 130 page views. Out of the 100 visitors only about 10 of them are bouncing. The average time they spend on the blog and main site is around 2-3 minutes. This is for a start up which has only been live now for 2 weeks. So I did something right considering it also only has a total of 60 backlinks listed at the time being.
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  • @pete - my point is that the best chances for success are to narrow your focus to a single business model, and optimize for that.

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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    I am following a similar approach as the OP. My time is limited due to working full time and family commitments so I put the time initially into creating a plan of attack and just sticking to it. My approach is doing 4 sites with 8 articles per site over 6 weeks. 3 of the sites are aimed at Adsense and the last is aimed at CPA and Clickbank offers.

    The first day of the cycle I do my research and find 8 keywords for each site I want to target. I purchase the domains and setup the sites ready for writing. The next 4 days (I work on it 5 days a week) I write 4 articles for each site and submit them to EZA.

    The next week I build a link wheel for each of the articles focusing on 1 or 2 properties a day (For e.g: I do Blogger and Wordpress for all articles on the one night, livejournal and tumblr the next etc). I stick to the properties that don't flag content and have fast, easy to use editors. I have a spreadsheet file that shortcuts to each article and automatically fills out the target urls for the proceeding properties. My login details etc are just a click away. Everything is streamlined.

    Week 3 I spend doing general backlinking, rss submits, commenting etc to keep the links looking random. I submit each article to thelinkjuicer for long term link building.

    I repeat these 3 weeks for the final 4 keywords for each site so that after 6 weeks I have 4 sites up and running and moving up the serps with google. Like the OP, I target keywords that I know this system will handle so I don't get stuck pushing a keyword that takes all of my time. I focus on the higher CPC ($5+) so that I can hit keywords that rank easy but less traffic.

    In regards to having CPA offers on an Adsense page: I found my Adsense CTR dropped when I put a CPA banner on the site as they are usually attractive ads. If the user is click friendly then they seem to go for the CPA over the Adsense. My CTR and CPC meant the Adsense worked better for me. My clickbank sites and CPA articles are written totally differently and target different styles of words to my Adsense sites so that is why I separate them. I have something to break the fall if Google bans me also.
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    • Profile picture of the author dv8
      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post


      The next week I build a link wheel for each of the articles focusing on 1 or 2 properties a day (For e.g: I do Blogger and Wordpress for all articles on the one night, livejournal and tumblr the next etc). I stick to the properties that don't flag content and have fast, easy to use editors. I have a spreadsheet file that shortcuts to each article and automatically fills out the target urls for the proceeding properties. My login details etc are just a click away. Everything is streamlined.
      Wait, excel can do this automatically?

      That is the one thing that I hate, filling out my author name, article title, short description, article, resource, box, etc for every directory. Not to mention it seems most times I have to edit my article since it gets messed up when I copy and paste. And right now I don't have the extra cash for some article software to do all of this for me automatically.

      How do I set up excel to do this for me? Or are you just talking about copy and pasting?

      Thanks.
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  • @fraggler - sounds like you have a good plan. I wouldn't mix CPA and Adsense. They would each be optimized differently, and at best you'd be diluting both. Stick to what is working for you.

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  • The initial homepage will be titled as the name of the blog, which will contain my root keyword phrase and URL. As long as it has all my target keyword phrases in it's content, I don't do anything else with it. What I'm really working towards is ranking the individual pages and their target keyword/phrases.

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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      The initial homepage will be titled as the name of the blog, which will contain my root keyword phrase and URL. As long as it has all my target keyword phrases in it's content, I don't do anything else with it. What I'm really working towards is ranking the individual pages and their target keyword/phrases.

      Mark
      So for my example in the weight loss, then if my blog name is "Weight Loss Guide" and my domain is www.weightlossguide.xxx, then I should just title the homepage with "Weight Loss Guide" or should it be www.WeightLossGuide.xxx when it shows up in the SERPs?
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  • internetmarketer99 (Mark),

    I have waded through oodles of stuff on Adsense and this is by far the best I have read for small long-tail keyword WP blogs. You really should think about making a product with this approach.

    Your advice on linking posts to pages for keeping the content fresh was priceless since posts can be short, say a paragraph or two. I've always had this problem of too many options for content with WP and your tip resolves it beautifully. Also, I loved the BlueSense theme.

    I'm going to do your system. After a site is built, indexed, and backlinked, I'm even thinking (for maintenance) of using a top 100 Google Trends keyword (in addition to the target keyword) in a post once in a while if it is pertinent and see what happens. And a video now and then.

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    • Originally Posted by Michael Stuart Kelly View Post

      internetmarketer99 (Mark),

      I have waded through oodles of stuff on Adsense and this is by far the best I have read for small long-tail keyword WP blogs. You really should think about making a product with this approach.

      Your advice on linking posts to pages for keeping the content fresh was priceless since posts can be short, say a paragraph or two. I've always had this problem of too many options for content with WP and your tip resolves it beautifully. Also, I loved the BlueSense theme.

      I'm going to do your system. After a site is built, indexed, and backlinked, I'm even thinking (for maintenance) of using a top 100 Google Trends keyword (in addition to the target keyword) in a post once in a while if it is pertinent and see what happens. And a video now and then.

      Michael
      Thanks for the kind words, Michael.

      I should add that any additional efforts i.e. videos, etc., can only help your rankings.

      Good luck - if you're so inclined, post your progress.

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  • Mark,

    I just read through the entire thread of John (Xfactor). What a treat!

    His idea of using a single block of Adsense code between the header and the content confirms what I did recently on a forum I run before stumbling onto these threads. My own Adsense earnings on the forum increased dramatically when I took away all the other ad blocks and placed only one at the place he suggested. But I did it without anyone telling me to.

    Since he confirmed what I have already experienced, I started looking for another WP template than BlueSense. I found Ad Flex, which looks like it will be the simplest among Adsense-enhanced WP templates for my ideas. I do intend to experiment with BlueSense, though, possibly for video games, since (like someone said somewhere) kids seeking cheat codes, etc. are click-happy. It makes sense to give them a few more alternatives.

    I also own MNF, so John's advice on using it and making small expanded sniper-like sites aligned with my own experiences. I greatly appreciated his idea of making sites only on specific products (or small groups).

    His comment about not optimizing an Ezine article for a keyword you are trying to get your site to rank for (since your article might end up outranking your site) was another of those obvious--but priceless--gems. Anchor text in the resource box for backlinks and that's it.

    This gave me the idea of optimizing an article for a researched keyword related to a target site, but one which will not be optimized on the site--still using the site's keyword as the anchor text in the resource box. That way you get the small traffic that naturally comes from an article related to the topic, and you get more traffic to the article from its high ranking in Google's SERPS, while still getting the backlink with the site's keyword.

    Thanks to you both. I have not posted over there yet, but I will.

    And, yes, I will keep you updated with some of my experiences.

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    • Originally Posted by Michael Stuart Kelly View Post

      Mark,

      I just read through the entire thread of John (Xfactor). What a treat!


      His comment about not optimizing an Ezine article for a keyword you are trying to get your site to rank for (since your article might end up outranking your site) was another of those obvious--but priceless--gems. Anchor text in the resource box for backlinks and that's it.


      Michael
      Yup, Xfactor's incredibly generous threads were a large part of my motivation for posting my methods.

      I also that tip about not optimizing Ezinearticle submissions for your target keyword and just taking advantage of the link juice to be brilliant, obvious-once-someone-else-tells-you gems.

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    What's the homepage of Ad Flux theme? I searched and found two variants: Ad Flex Blog & Ad Flex Niche
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  • vema123,

    That's an interesting idea, but I don't see much point to inducing confusion if your goal is traffic from SERPS (which it should be if you want money).

    One thing I have seen commented on in several places, and I have verified with my own sites, is that your main traffic over time comes from small percentages of people from a large number of weird combinations of words that often have little to do with your main keyword. This is because people type in all kinds of crazy things when they search.

    So focusing on a single term is not as important for organic traffic as it may seem at first. I believe that including a bunch of related terms is vastly more important.

    The best place I have found to get related terms (charmingly called LSI, Latent Semantic Index, just to confuse people a lot) is from the Google Adwords keyword tool. It gives you a bunch of terms (in both the "related terms" and "additional keywords to consider") and that Google finds important. Why not use what Google tells you it likes?

    Also, if you plug in the URL of a site from the top SERPS for your main keyword (select "website content" in the keyword tool), Google will tell you a bunch of related keywords it thinks are important for that site.

    It is a simple matter--literally a no-brainer--to make sure your content (article or site content) includes several terms from such easy lists to generate.

    I keep seeing people say you should optimize a keyword at 3-5% density. I think they just repeat what others say because when I do that, my content suddenly sucks. I certainly would not read crap like that, so why would I expect anyone else to?

    If I am using a long-tail keyword, even 2% density is hell to achieve without sounding like a dork. Now that Ezine articles has set a 2% cap for approval, I see no reason to worry so much about the main keyword you wish to optimize for the article (not necessarily the anchor text in the resource box).

    In my opinion, although I have no data on this other than a general impression from reading a lot of stuff and from my own experiences, getting a keyword density above 1% and including, say, 5 or more related terms from Google's lists at least once each, should do more for a keyword rank than a higher density for the term itself. And you get the added traffic benefit from all those weird combinations.

    I believe this will give you far more and far better traffic (for converting) than trying to squeeze link juice out of adding confusion to the URL.

    (But I admit, I really like sneaky ideas like yours... )

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  • Profile picture of the author rstanley
    This is good information, in particular the bluesense theme. I just downloaded it and modified it to fit my site. I will see how it performs, I am going to use it on a site that gets about 50-80 visits a day.

    Normally produces $25-30 in adsense revenue. It should be an interesting experiment.

    I have been using this style of low competition keywords, keword dense domains and seo for about six months. It works really well and getting content using outsourced providers makes the whole process rather painless.

    -rs
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  • Profile picture of the author dv8
    What about using categories instead of pages? Will that work just as good or no?
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    • Originally Posted by dv8 View Post

      What about using categories instead of pages? Will that work just as good or no?
      Sorry I missed your question dv8.

      No, categories are very different than pages. Also, where you have a single category entry, you've actually created 'duplicate content':

      http://www.mydomain.com/categoryname/article-title

      is a duplicate (different URL's, same content) of:

      http://www.mydomain.com/article-title

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      • Profile picture of the author dv8
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Sorry I missed your question dv8.

        No, categories are very different than pages. Also, where you have a single category entry, you've actually created 'duplicate content':

        http://www.mydomain.com/categoryname/article-title

        is a duplicate (different URL's, same content) of:

        http://www.mydomain.com/article-title

        Mark
        Ok. So should we never use categories then? Are they bad for SEO in general. My apologies if these are stupid questions. I have a good grasp of SEO, this is just the first time I've heard about the difference between pages and categories.

        Thank you.
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        • Profile picture of the author madmagician
          Originally Posted by dv8 View Post

          Ok. So should we never use categories then? Are they bad for SEO in general. My apologies if these are stupid questions. I have a good grasp of SEO, this is just the first time I've heard about the difference between pages and categories.

          Thank you.

          No, two plugins fix that problem:
          Permalink redirect plugin
          Top Level Cats (cats for category)
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          • Profile picture of the author dv8
            Originally Posted by madmagician View Post

            No, two plugins fix that problem:
            Permalink redirect plugin
            Top Level Cats (cats for category)
            Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author angelah
    [quote=internetmarketer99;1000741]How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!


    My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes).

    Realistically, I want search volume over 100/day and competition under 20k. This is not nearly as hard to find as you might think.

    Good Luck!

    Mark

    PS - there's a TON of great information to be had reading Xfactor's terrific thread (http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html)!
    WOW Mark!!
    This thread is amazing and very informative. Thank you!!

    I had a question regarding your keyword information above.

    If I am unable to find one keyword with at least 1500 searches per month, but I can find multiple keywords that might have much lower searches, but add up to 1500 searches per month - would this be an effective alternative since I'm not finding only one keyword with 1500 searches?

    For example, say keyword1 has 500 searches a month, keyword2 has 500 searches and month and keyword3 has 500 searches a month. So all 3 of these keywords together equal 1500 searches a month. Would this strategy work? And if looking at lower searched keywords would I still be looking at a competition under 40,000 or should I be looking for a lower competition number. If so, what specific competition number should I look for?

    Thanks much!
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  • Profile picture of the author nailzer09875
    Thanks a lot for sharing the concept but I would a say this is a very old theory to get success with Adsense. Please do something innovative then tell everyone. Theme, good keywords, keywords density etc almost everyone knows those.
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    • Originally Posted by nailzer09875 View Post

      Thanks a lot for sharing the concept but I would a say this is a very old theory to get success with Adsense. Please do something innovative then tell everyone. Theme, good keywords, keywords density etc almost everyone knows those.
      Thanks for sharing your brilliant assessment and insight, and your extraordinary meaningful recommendations, no doubt based on long experience and success.

      I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to your next 25 gems.

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      • Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to your next 25 gems.
        Mark,

        I certainly am. I am thinking seriously about targeting the newbie market and this dude is one who will never sell anything to them.

        I am so glad he is so obviously not interested. Less competition and all...

        But even if he wanted to, if that post is any indication, I doubt he could sell ice cream to kids at an amusement park on a hot day.



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        • Profile picture of the author steve39
          Hi Mark,

          I remember reading somewhere (I think it was a thread here) about new sites being given the benefit of the doubt and ranked higher than they would normally. Some even reach the first page in a matter of days while they are in this state of limbo. Then after 6 weeks, the main Google algorithm processes the site and it is ranked where it should be (usually lower).

          Have you ever experienced this?

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          • Originally Posted by steve39 View Post

            Hi Mark,

            I remember reading somewhere (I think it was a thread here) about new sites being given the benefit of the doubt and ranked higher than they would normally. Some even reach the first page in a matter of days while they are in this state of limbo. Then after 6 weeks, the main Google algorithm processes the site and it is ranked where it should be (usually lower).

            Have you ever experienced this?

            Steve
            On keywords with any sort of competition, this is pretty much the rule.

            When Google indexes a page, they do a 'first-pass' calculation. The page gets a more 'thorough' calculation later.

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          • Profile picture of the author vema123
            Hello Mark,

            It's me again. Yes, I agree with you that by making our keywords we want to rank high on SERP on into pages, it's a good point to make those keywords into pages (let's say, 10 pages).

            However, since early May this year, I've mistakenly made a website with pyramid cascade. I wonder if this method also has the same impact as your technique. It goes like this:

            1. Let's say I have 13 keywords I want to rank high on SERP (supposedly those keywords are: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M)
            2. I made 13 POSTS (instead of pages) with pyramid cascade like this:
            I agree with the idea that we should make pages, instead of posts, for the keywords, however, as I've made so many posts in my site since 2 months ago, do you think the above linking strategy also has the same impact as if I'd made the pages as you suggested?

            Oh yes, another thing, Mark. Maybe it's still off topic, but I'm just curious about the problem I'm having right now:
            About 2 weeks ago I stupidly made 1 (one) off topic post with very low keyword. Since then I've noticed the CPC has greatly decreased, following that low keyword in my off topic post. Then I deleted that post, however I still have low CPC till now. Do you think that the low CPC I've got is due to that off topic post I made the other day? How can I make my CPC be back to normal?


            Thank you so much for your valuable answer, Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author dv8
      Originally Posted by nailzer09875 View Post

      Thanks a lot for sharing the concept but I would a say this is a very old theory to get success with Adsense. Please do something innovative then tell everyone. Theme, good keywords, keywords density etc almost everyone knows those.
      Why do you even bother posting?
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
      Originally Posted by nailzer09875 View Post

      Thanks a lot for sharing the concept but I would a say this is a very old theory to get success with Adsense. Please do something innovative then tell everyone. Theme, good keywords, keywords density etc almost everyone knows those.
      Almost everyone knows it and almost everyone jumps right past it looking for the next easy trick to make a million dollars a day without working.

      New marketers/publishers coming into this forum should build a foundation on the basics before looking for too much "innovation" that confuses them and keeps them staring at their monitor doing nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author danieee
    thanks, very educative post mostly for newbies like me.
    i sure will work on them
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    very educative, sure will put them to work.thanks
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  • @angelah - There's no reason you can't go after lower-volume keywords, but you'll obviously see diminishing returns since it can take just as much work. My feeling is, there are so many possibilities that it's not worth expending the effort going after low numbers.

    That said, I have some sites that 'violate' my own guidelines - and it's important to realize they are just that: guidelines. The sites that I do that with are usually because they are very easy to rank for and I can group enough of these keyword phrases together to get good cumulative numbers.

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    thanks man, great post especially for us new to adsense, i sure will put this stuff into work
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      Originally Posted by danieee View Post

      thanks, very educative post mostly for newbies like me.
      i sure will work on them
      Originally Posted by danieee View Post

      very educative, sure will put them to work.thanks
      Originally Posted by danieee View Post

      thanks man, great post especially for us new to adsense, i sure will put this stuff into work
      Wtf?

      These newbie posts sure are getting annoying.
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  • Profile picture of the author homebse
    Mark,
    Thanks so much for the detail you have given in this post.

    Few questions for you:
    1.) If you can't get your keyword as the domain name will you use "dashes" in the domain name or do you add a number or word, or abandon all together?
    2.) Do you add adsense blocks right away to your new sites or do you wait until they have gotten indexed?
    3.) What adsense blocks do you use and how many?

    Thanks again for this great info.
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    • Originally Posted by homebse View Post

      Mark,
      Thanks so much for the detail you have given in this post.

      Few questions for you:
      1.) If you can't get your keyword as the domain name will you use "dashes" in the domain name or do you add a number or word, or abandon all together?
      2.) Do you add adsense blocks right away to your new sites or do you wait until they have gotten indexed?
      3.) What adsense blocks do you use and how many?

      Thanks again for this great info.

      I prefer adding a suffix or prefix rather than dashes, such as keywordhub.com or a1keyword.com, but I've used dashes as well. I don't believe that creates a problem, however I do remember a talk from Matt Cutts mentioning that though Google doesn't 'penalize' dashes, they were his 'last choice'.

      One indicator is that I rarely see domain names with dashes in the top few results, but that is also likely to be because the 'straight' domains rank well.

      Still, I'd rather have "weight-loss.com" than "weightlosshub.com".

      I always have Adsense on the site when they launch, but I don't launch until I have my my 'pages' done.

      As for which Adsense blocks, it's the theme's layout.

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    great info dude !
    thanks !
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  • @vema - regarding your lowered CPC, I assume you are referring to your EPC (how much you're getting per click). Are you saying your EPC site-wide has dropped, or just on the URL for that post?

    There isn't enough information in your post to really tell. Depending on your layout and theme, one post shouldn't alter your EPC site-wide. Also, it's entirely possible, again depending on theme, that you're getting "low-block" clicks, meaning clicks on ads lower in the auction (bottom ads, 2nd or 3rd adblocks, etc.).

    It could simply be an anomaly. I would set up channels on that URL, your homepage, and some other URL's first to try and isolate the issue.

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  • Profile picture of the author lifesshort
    I have been following this thread with interest but just get a little confused over keyword research and would appreciate some clarification.

    When I read posts (not just on this thread alone) about keyword research against competing websites and which ones to go after, I get a little confused because some refer to go with the [exact] keyword phrase term, (doesn't MNF use Exact?) and others refer to going with the "keyword phrase" results. Now which one is the correct one to apply and go after, as they both can't be right?

    For example I was looking at a keyword and I find that this can happen a number of times that when I put that keyword in to Google.com search, the results were as follows, both Broad and Exact returning the same number of competeing sites:
    Broad - keyword phrase Results 1-10 of about 1,860,000
    Exact - [keyword phrase] Results 1-10 of about 1,860,000
    Phrase - "keyword phrase" Results 1-10 of about 3,090

    Checking with Google's tools for the search volumes resulted in:
    Local Search Volume for June
    Broad 2400
    [Exact] 720
    "Phrase" 1300

    So my question with this example, would this particular keyword be worth going after looking at the phrase results?
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  • @lifesshort - keyword research, in many ways, is more art than science, particularly when it comes to interpreting numbers.

    For gauging competition especially, there are many different metrics and many different methods for determining those metrics and for interpreting their meaning.

    On top of that, different tools use different source data, extrapolate results differently, even differ in terms and definitions.

    Eventually you'll start developing your own intuition. There isn't a 'right' answer when it comes to competition since there are so many variables.

    As a starting point, I prefer using 'phrase match' for measuring competing pages, but with an understanding that it is only one variable. I've found that when trying to rapidly gauge my chances of success, it gives me a good baseline for comparison.

    In terms of your example above, I would look at the top 3-5 results and try to determine how strong they are. If they don't look too tough, I would consider it ok to go after, but with the search volume just at the point of being worthwhile, I would be hesitant tying up time and effort that could go to something with more potential.

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    • Profile picture of the author lifesshort
      Mark thank you for that explanation, I'm sort of using some of what you explained as my own starting point before moving on from that first initial dipping of the toe in to the water.

      I just have one further question then please if you don't mind: Taking my example above again, what do you then consider to be worthwhile phrase search volume starting point minimum to a maximum number before moving it up a gear?
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  • @lifesshort - it would depend on a few factors. I have some sites where I found a number of ideal keyword/phrases that I wanted to take advantage of, but less than enough to build a whole site around. In those cases, I'll drop my 'minimum requirements' somewhat.

    For example, if I find a good keyword phrase group with 6-8 high-volume, low-competition keyword/phrases, I may dig deeper to find another 5-10 that 'fit' but don't quite enough search volume (I'd rather bend on the side of search volume than on competition). In this case, I still want to see as much search volume as I can find, but would 'settle' for numbers over 30/day.

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  • Profile picture of the author driller000
    Hello , it is my First one here
    any way , i have took a long time to Read this thread
    and Still Wondering :
    1-R U will make post/page/Group each site and after finishing ur Phrases keep linking to pages as many as u can ,,,after that u will not add any content ?????

    2-R U sorting K.words descending with highest Traffic Volume ?(or descending with highest Advertisers competition )and take that between 1k-10k and neglecting those k.words with (high advertisers competition+less PPC cost) ???

    3-Is this Strategy work with Blogger blogs and static pages(not blogs) ,notice that blogger has no static home page and also no pages or posts manners like WordPress blogs??

    4-to measure competition in Google we put the k.word among Quotes,but Searchers type that K.words without quotes ,r we wrong ??!!

    5-What is the difference will made when I build my culculations on Broad Search Volume or Exact Search Volume,and when i put the K.words among Quotes and without quoets ?
    thanks alot for ur efforts .

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  • @madmagician - yup, good resources, thanks!

    @driller000 - Yes, I will continually add posts in support of the target pages. Once the site is up & running, I try to add a new post at least every other day. This 'trains' the crawlers to come back frequently.

    I don't go by 'advertiser competition' - that is for Adwords. I'm looking at SERPS competition, pages that I have to beat in order to rank well.

    Yes, this strategy will work with static sites, and I have many of those. However, I've found that I can rank better and maintain a high ranking more consistently with a blog.

    As for using Blogger, I don't recommend it. Find a way to come up with $15, get yourself a shared hosting account, and buy a domain name.

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    • Profile picture of the author angelah
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99


      Yes, this strategy will work with static sites, and I have many of those. However, I've found that I can rank better and maintain a high ranking more consistently with a blog.


      Mark
      Hi Mark,

      Do you use Wordpress blogs? If so, which template do you use?

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author TyBrown
    Great info. I've already copied it to a doc to use later
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  • Profile picture of the author Laura B
    In answer to a question asked by someone back on page 1, the reason local search volume can often be higher than global is this: Global is a monthly average based on a "recent 12-month period," according to Google. Local is based on the most recent month for which there is data. Therefore, you can see why a recent month's searches may be higher than the average for the last 12 months (or whatever 12-month period they're using). And often they are exactly the same, which tells us that we should take all these numbers with a grain of salt the size of say, Rhode Island.
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  • Profile picture of the author driller000
    thank u alot:
    but when I search competition I use Quotes but Searchers do searches without Quotes around the term they seeking to , iam Confused ,what about u ?!

    I do that :
    select niche via Google tool >>search related phrases with G tool and SEObook tool>>>sort them in categories ;every similar group of phrases in interest in one Set>>I make each Set as one Category of my site,i.e as mini-site to group of K.phrases>>>write content article/Keyphrase >>I do long Links Farm >>2 articles/week each one support one group or phrase in any group and contain 2 links ,one to home and one to the Article in same sort of Phrase<<<

    that my whole way , is it wrong at all or any part wrong ???plz tell me
    but i found , supporting articles may be relevant in SE's than the Original Article !!!
    and some phrases I cannot find Content to Write in it, How could that solved ???
    If I chose Conent as description to product from ClickBank or Commision Junction ,I copy some paragraphes from the landing pages of products and put them into my content ,that right?
    thanks again
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  • nice post mate, very interesting. might try some of your stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author lh1234
    thank you Mark for so generously sharing your knowledge with us.
    OK, so from what I've read so far no categories get used. So the RH sidebar of the bluesense theme will just have your contact, about and privacy pages; your 10-20 pages (your keywords) listed: then a list of your posts that you will link to your pages, listed under "recent posts" I'm gathering. Is that correct?
    A question about the posts you have linking to the pages. Do they have to have one of the "page keywords" somewhere in their title or that doesn't matter so long as we link the post back to one of the "target" pages?
    Many thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan6
    You don't see many great threads like this on other marketing/webmaster forums. This is why it's great to use Warrior. Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amenda Jessera
    I never tried, but I heard there are successful stories...... You can check some other threads here for advice. However, All of them are getting more clicks via promoting their sites. So, they are getting more backlinks and getting more visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author mixmastermidori
    This is a great post!

    I'm wondering if anyone can give an example of text for the Resource Box in ezinearticles. If we're supposed to write an article unrelated to the keyword we're trying to get ranked for, how do we incorporate this into the Resource Box? I apologize for the question. I'm new at the whole article marketing thing.

    Thanks for the help!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cosmo Demopoulos
      Originally Posted by mixmastermidori View Post

      This is a great post!

      I'm wondering if anyone can give an example of text for the Resource Box in ezinearticles. If we're supposed to write an article unrelated to the keyword we're trying to get ranked for, how do we incorporate this into the Resource Box? I apologize for the question. I'm new at the whole article marketing thing.

      Thanks for the help!
      Simple, how about something like:

      If you enjoyed this article on bald eagles and hairloss, please come read some of my other articles on Spam Recipes for Vegetarians and Nonalcoholic wine.


      Obviously "Spam Recipes for Vegetarians" and "Nonalcoholic wine" would be links to your sites, and no, neither of those are niches I'm involved in
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      • Profile picture of the author mixmastermidori
        Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos View Post

        Simple, how about something like:

        If you enjoyed this article on bald eagles and hairloss, please come read some of my other articles on Spam Recipes for Vegetarians and Nonalcoholic wine.


        Obviously "Spam Recipes for Vegetarians" and "Nonalcoholic wine" would be links to your sites, and no, neither of those are niches I'm involved in
        Thanks! I just submitted my first article.
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    • Profile picture of the author probizlink
      Originally Posted by mixmastermidori View Post

      This is a great post!

      I'm wondering if anyone can give an example of text for the Resource Box in ezinearticles. If we're supposed to write an article unrelated to the keyword we're trying to get ranked for, how do we incorporate this into the Resource Box? I apologize for the question. I'm new at the whole article marketing thing.

      Thanks for the help!
      I have gone to ezinearticles and just read and copied ideas from there to write the resource box.
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      • Profile picture of the author StephenDavies
        Hi all,

        The main domain on my hosting account is, say, www dot fordcars dot com (I wish!).

        I create an 'add-on' domain at my hosting company for a second domain name, say www dot newkitchens dot com.

        Sometimes my newkitchens site shows fordcars Adsense adverts.

        I suspect this is because the hosting company treats the 'real' address of the new site as www dot fordcars dot com/www dot newkitchens dot com (or something similar).

        Does anyone else get this, and is there a cure that doesn't involve registering all of my domains with my hosing company? (I was advised to keep my domain registrations seperate from my hosting).

        Or is the answer to use a reseller hosting account? In which case are there any recommendations please?

        Steve.
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        • Profile picture of the author josher
          Originally Posted by StephenDavies View Post

          Hi all,

          The main domain on my hosting account is, say, www dot fordcars dot com (I wish!).

          I create an 'add-on' domain at my hosting company for a second domain name, say www dot newkitchens dot com.

          Sometimes my newkitchens site shows fordcars Adsense adverts.

          I suspect this is because the hosting company treats the 'real' address of the new site as www dot fordcars dot com/www dot newkitchens dot com (or something similar).

          Does anyone else get this, and is there a cure that doesn't involve registering all of my domains with my hosing company? (I was advised to keep my domain registrations seperate from my hosting).

          Or is the answer to use a reseller hosting account? In which case are there any recommendations please?

          Steve.
          G00G recently went to "behavioral" ads, not sure if that's the exact term they're using. What that means is that if you visited a site about kitchen cabinets, they will assume you're looking for kitchen cabinets and will throw up those ads.

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  • Profile picture of the author triplex
    i think content is a king
    keep your site updated with fresh unique content
    your adsense earning will increase
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    • Profile picture of the author AdamWB
      Originally Posted by triplex View Post

      i think content is a king
      keep your site updated with fresh unique content
      your adsense earning will increase
      Nah, not true. I've got several adsense sites that I haven't updated in a couple years and are still doing extremely well.

      Also, do you really find that article directory backlinks are worth it for you? I've never really had success from them as far as "link juice" is concerned - however direct referral traffic from places like ezinearticles/buzzle/goarticles can be decent.

      Say I submit 200 articles for a specific niche (mass submit using UAW and goarticles), I may have a pr1-2 in a few months and be on the 3rd or 2nd page for a decent search term.

      However using a few other linking methods (angela's,paul's,etc), a few hundred links usually gets me not only on the first page, but usually position 1-3, with a pagerank of 4. Plus, that aspect can be outsourced easily, leaving you with more important things to do - like finding more money niches.

      I've tested this many times and I get the same results. Article backlinks just aren't what they used to be unfortunately.
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      • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
        Originally Posted by AdamWB View Post

        Article backlinks just aren't what they used to be unfortunately.
        What do you guys think of Linkvana?
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  • Profile picture of the author JRLiem
    Hi,

    Thanks for the post.
    How many sites you have to get $100/day & is that stable ?
    I developed a site for adsense 4 months ago and just get $15 :confused:

    btw. I created a post about 2 days ago & today I still can't see in the search result even I entry the url in search box. Something wrong with the url? How to fix it?

    How about backlink, does Google recognize it as soon as you create it or it takes some days?

    Cheers.
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    • Originally Posted by JRLiem View Post

      Hi,

      Thanks for the post.
      How many sites you have to get $100/day & is that stable ?
      I developed a site for adsense 4 months ago and just get $15 :confused:

      btw. I created a post about 2 days ago & today I still can't see in the search result even I entry the url in search box. Something wrong with the url? How to fix it?

      How about backlink, does Google recognize it as soon as you create it or it takes some days?

      Cheers.
      Samuel,

      I have a few sites that do $30-$50/day consistently, but most are making $5-$10/day. If you follow the outline in the OP, you should be getting appx. $5 for every 100 visitors. Then just do the math: more, lower-volume sites, or fewer, higher-volume sites.

      The basic idea is to find relatively 'undiscovered' keywords in high-EPC niches, that have a minimum search volume, and aren't too hard to rank for. There are literally hundreds of thousands of these. Then use a format that gives you a high CTR.That's it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jaspworld
    Google adsense used to sort of work for me few years ago. The highest I ever got to was $15/day but honestly I never really tried too hard. I don't know why I gave up on it.
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    The option to set your own front page can be accomplished via your Administration > Settings > Reading panel.
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  • Profile picture of the author vema123
    Hello Matt,

    You mentioned in your post that we shouldn't worry about no follow links. Can these links give us link juice to increase us in the SERP?

    If other search engines aren't affected by these no follow links, therefore, can we rank high in other SERP by using these no follow links?

    thank you, Matt
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    • Originally Posted by vema123 View Post

      Hello Matt,

      You mentioned in your post that we shouldn't worry about no follow links. Can these links give us link juice to increase us in the SERP?

      If other search engines aren't affected by these no follow links, therefore, can we rank high in other SERP by using these no follow links?

      thank you, Matt
      Matt,

      NoFollow links still give you a backlink who's value is dependent on the page it's coming from, it just doesn't pass any of that value along to your page. So for this scheme, they are still viable backlinks.

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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    Instead of having mini-sites, could you have one site w/ many sub-directories or sub-domains?
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    its too lengthy to read. bookmarked it for now, will read later on, thanks for this useful content, everyone want that
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  • Profile picture of the author basmin
    yeah earnings of my adsense start increasing after using bluesense
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  • Profile picture of the author runner
    This post is so full of professional facts, that it takes a little bit time to digest that all. You give us vey valuable information. I liked your post mostly, because this is a 100 % business idea to launch a site, with guidance and tools. ( I think, we can buy them also).

    1. You said , that you prefer outsourcing. If you have used phantom article writers, do you give them a topic plus the keyword or what? What about the length?
    2. Secondary keywords. Do you mean long tail search term, which includes the root term?
    3. Keyword research. 50 searches a day, 40.000 competing sites, huh! Sounds hard to find, so the tools must be very effective ones. Do you use typos or other "special" terms?
    4. Your traffic was based on organic traffic and you said that it comes in a week or two. Most of it must come from the social bookmarks or article directories, or?

    Mark, thanks for this post. It really made me to think. And special thanks for the tip about WorPress Blue Sense. I must try it.

    PS. One more, is $ 1 per click really realistic figure?
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    • Originally Posted by runner View Post

      This post is so full of professional facts, that it takes a little bit time to digest that all. You give us vey valuable information. I liked your post mostly, because this is a 100 % business idea to launch a site, with guidance and tools. ( I think, we can buy them also).

      1. You said , that you prefer outsourcing. If you have used phantom article writers, do you give them a topic plus the keyword or what? What about the length?
      2. Secondary keywords. Do you mean long tail search term, which includes the root term?
      3. Keyword research. 50 searches a day, 40.000 competing sites, huh! Sounds hard to find, so the tools must be very effective ones. Do you use typos or other "special" terms?
      4. Your traffic was based on organic traffic and you said that it comes in a week or two. Most of it must come from the social bookmarks or article directories, or?

      Mark, thanks for this post. It really made me to think. And special thanks for the tip about WorPress Blue Sense. I must try it.

      PS. One more, is $ 1 per click really realistic figure?
      runner,

      Thanks for the kind words.

      I have a few freelancers that I found through Getafreelancer (GetAFreelancer | Online Freelance Jobs | Employment | Design | Outsourcing | Programmers | Web Design | Freelancers) and Amazon Mechanical Turk. When I post a project, if I get a really good bid, or in the case of Aturk a really good result, I email the provider and ask them if they're interested in doing ongoing work.

      This has gotten me a 'stable' of good, reliable, writers.

      Some work with me on an ongoing basis where I have them working 4-8 'topics' (niches) - I give them the keywords and they provide x number of articles per week. Others I simply give them 'random' keywords.

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  • Just wanted to add a plug:

    If you've been following Xfactor's thread - who's generosity inspired me to do this thread - I've purchased and examined his course, and it is perhaps one of about 3 business model products, out of at least 100 that I've looked at, that I would unhesitatingly give a 5 star rating to.

    Particularly if you're a relative newbie, either to IM or Adsense, and want a complete blueprint to a workable and sustainable business, you couldn't ask for better.

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    • Profile picture of the author StephenDavies
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      one of about 3 business model products, out of at least 100 that I've looked at, that I would unhesitatingly give a 5 star rating to.
      Mark, thanks for a fantastic thread. I have purchased Xfactor's course.

      Out of interest what are the other 2 business model products that you rate?

      Steve.
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  • Profile picture of the author Flyingpig7
    Hello Mark,

    I'm with StephenDavies I too would be interested at looking at the other business models that you rate.
    I'm a little concerned in putting all my eggs in one basket regards adsense. However having said that I know that Xfactor says there is a way around that wtih his model.

    Thanks
    Keren :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
      Originally Posted by Flyingpig7 View Post

      Hello Mark,

      I'm with StephenDavies I too would be interested at looking at the other business models that you rate.
      I'm a little concerned in putting all my eggs in one basket regards adsense. However having said that I know that Xfactor says there is a way around that wtih his model.

      Thanks
      Keren :-)
      I think the good thing about the foundation for both this method and Xfactor's is that you end up with sites which draw traffic and are optimized for readers to click on ads. If you lost Adsense tomorrow, you'd still have that foundation. You'd just have to change the advertiser.

      For anyone who is worried about this, I would suggest looking into OpenX Ad Server. If you lost Adsense, it would literally take less than a few hours to change the ads on all your sites even if you had hundreds by then. It also lets you experiment with using other advertisers so you are prepared if that occurs.

      Publishing (as opposed to "marketing") is still a viable and profitable business model.
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      • Profile picture of the author jawai
        Hi Mark,

        Great info in this thread,

        I sent you a pm yesterday.When you get a chance can you take a look.


        Thanks
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  • Hey Steve, Keren,

    One is Kneb Knebaih's public domain WSO: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ain-works.html

    The other is SpeedPPC. If you're interested, PM me and I'll send you a link to an article about the particular business model using it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Flyingpig7
    By the way thanks for a brilliant and informative thread some interesting ideas there and you clarified one or two things for me regarding posts and pages vs categories.

    I too use MNF and swear by it as I no longer have to slog so much over Google external keyword tool and Gsearch. Although I do use the Exact match never having analysed the phrase match at all that is new to me. Still I am getting a few clicks and am learning all the time particularly with the help of Xfactor's course.

    Cheers
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    • Originally Posted by Flyingpig7 View Post

      By the way thanks for a brilliant and informative thread some interesting ideas there and you clarified one or two things for me regarding posts and pages vs categories.

      I too use MNF and swear by it as I no longer have to slog so much over Google external keyword tool and Gsearch. Although I do use the Exact match never having analysed the phrase match at all that is new to me. Still I am getting a few clicks and am learning all the time particularly with the help of Xfactor's course.

      Cheers
      Keren
      Thanks for the kind words, Keren.

      MNF is terrific; the only caveat is that it's easy to be too hasty, too comfortable, or just plain lazy. Always, always, always double-check before spending your time and money on a new project.

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  • thanks for your post man.i always ignored adsense on my site but i will now look to maximize my earnings.I currently make about £1 a day
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      thanks for your post man.i always ignored adsense on my site but i will now look to maximize my earnings.I currently make about £1 a day
      You know what they say, "if you can make a dollar online..."

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    Thank you ! This is great artilce with detailed instruction. I really appreciate the links to the useful tools such as comment kahuna .
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    • Originally Posted by hanadaddy View Post

      Thank you ! This is great artilce with detailed instruction. I really appreciate the links to the useful tools such as comment kahuna .
      Comment Kahuna is a terrific tool. One of the best 'features' is that you're getting a very broad range of links that don't leave a footprint and aren't going to disappear because 1000 other marketers are link-spamming the same 30 sites over and over.

      Use it wisely and considerately - take the few moments to 'customize' each post and make a reasonably intelligent contribution.

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      • Profile picture of the author BrandonBourne
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Comment Kahuna is a terrific tool. One of the best 'features' is that you're getting a very broad range of links that don't leave a footprint and aren't going to disappear because 1000 other marketers are link-spamming the same 30 sites over and over.

        Use it wisely and considerately - take the few moments to 'customize' each post and make a reasonably intelligent contribution.

        Mark
        Adsense sites still work wonders, no matter what you see posted on the internet. The key is to get traffic from organic seo and Comment Kahuna is a great way to help you rise up the rankings. I like taking the dofollow backlinks from my competitors that are in the top 10 already. Let them do the hard work and we can reap the rewards.
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        • Originally Posted by BrandonBourne View Post

          Adsense sites still work wonders, no matter what you see posted on the internet. The key is to get traffic from organic seo and Comment Kahuna is a great way to help you rise up the rankings. I like taking the dofollow backlinks from my competitors that are in the top 10 already. Let them do the hard work and we can reap the rewards.
          Great point, Brandon!

          Check the backlinks on the tops sites for the keywords/phrases you're trying to rank for, and try to get links there. Obviously they're contributing to top ranking.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I was curious about one thing, wordpress. I'm not necessarily against wordpress, but it's using it in a mass strategy. Wordpress will need an updating in the future. For 10 sites that isn't a big deal, but in mass that is a little different. Maybe I'll have to dedicate an hour updating, which isn't that big of a deal, but I'm afraid i'll miss one. If I miss one than that leaves my hosting account open to being hacked.

    That's my fear.

    Any comment on that.
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  • Profile picture of the author hishaman
    Don't tired your self, traffic is the only thing that can make you earn!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Good call on the Wordpress MU. I'm going to have to give that a try. I'll start mixing in blogs with my static sites.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author captainDyl
    Great read guys. Much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author wwmw51
    Hi; InternetMarketer99, this really sounds great will it work for Wordpress blogs also using adsense?

    Thanks!
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    thanks a lot for the useful information
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  • Profile picture of the author younghamir
    this is just what i am looking for. thanks very much. i am kinda new to adsense and this is worth more than those ebooks over the net.
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    • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
      Mark,

      Do you tend to make the first page static?



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      • Originally Posted by TrevorIS View Post

        Mark,

        Do you tend to make the first page static?



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        Hey Trevor,

        It depends on my objectives.

        For the plan that I laid out here, not only do I make the home page a static "page", but I'll make a page (as opposed to post) for each of my targeted keyword phrases.

        I'll use posts to keep the blog 'fresh' with regular content updates, but it's the keyword 'pages' that I'll target for link-building - including from within posts.

        This gives me a 'flat' structure similar to a static HTML site as far as my target keywords are concerned, while giving me the greatly added benefit of it being a regularly updated blog.

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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
    Mark,

    Good advice Im already bringing in some consistent revenue I think 100/day will be very acheivable in a month or two at this rate. Im not new to adsense but I find I enjoy it more. I tend to flip my sites early for instant cash but im going to start keeping the good ones till they hit 100/day.



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    • Originally Posted by TrevorIS View Post

      Mark,

      Good advice Im already bringing in some consistent revenue I think 100/day will be very acheivable in a month or two at this rate. Im new to adsense but I find I enjoy it more.


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      Good work, and great attitude! As with everything else, and especially in the beginning, expect ups & downs, but don't let that put you off.

      Let me know how it progresses for you.

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    thanks for the post! ive never really used adsense before having worked with large commercial websites!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
    I have been doing some research and I have noticed adsense sites tend to flip for more then affiliate sites which is great. Im a big fan of flipping and I usually get 10-15 months revenue.

    People who are worried about adsense security can keep the big earners and flip the lemons. Those sites that only earn $2-3 dollars a day tend to be an easy $600-$1200 in your pocket.


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    • Originally Posted by TrevorIS View Post

      I have been doing some research and I have noticed adsense sites tend to flip for more then affiliate sites which is great. Im a big fan of flipping and I usually get 10-15 months revenue.

      People who are worried about adsense security can keep the big earners as flip the lemons. Those sites that only earn $2-3 dollars a day tend to be an easy $600-$1200 in your pocket.


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      This is exactly what I do!

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      • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
        Mark,

        Good to know! we seem to be on the same page here. Seems lots of my favourite affiliate stuff works with adsense also. It's funny really because alittle research and some hard work you could pump out 10 sites in 10 days that will go on to earn $ 10 bucks a day.

        Proper linking and keyword choices and alittle tlc could make you $30,000 dollars in virtual real estate in just 10 days. Anyways back to work just something for people to think about.


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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Hmm, that's a good idea with selling the sites that only make a few dollars. Getting a $1000 for a site that earns a few bucks a day would be sweet.
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    • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      Hmm, that's a good idea with selling the sites that only make a few dollars. Getting a $1000 for a site that earns a few bucks a day would be sweet.
      On "new" sites with less than 6 months stable numbers, you should expect appx. 5 x monthly earnings. That means for every $1/day you can expect $150. A site doing $5/day will get you $750, $10/day gets you $1500, etc.

      Of course if you hold them, the multiples go up. Get to 6 months or better of steady, stable numbers, and you can get 10 x monthly earnings.

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  • bossway,

    Your first post makes sense - I think - but your second post is just a copy of something from my earlier post.

    ?

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  • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
    How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

    I have a nice stream of Adsense income that has been on the rise since May 2006. The trick is, there is no trick! The instructions at the beginning of this thread are pretty much what I have been using with the exception of UAW. I push for each site to generate no less than $38.00 per day and pretty much will push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips until I get it there and then move on to the next site. It's laborious work but it sure pays off!
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    • Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

      How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

      I push for each site to generate no less than $38.00 per day and pretty much will push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips until I get it there and then move on to the next site. It's laborious work but it sure pays off!

      You've discovered the Super-Secret, Known-Only-To-A-Few-Select-Guru's, $1995-Month-To-Get-In, Don't-Let-The-Cat-Out-Of-The-Bag answer:

      Adsense is a numbers game, and the most important number is traffic. If you're willing to "push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips" to get there, you win!

      Of course an alternative to all the physical exertion is to apply that same attitude to Traffic & Rankings 101: optimization and backlinks.

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    • Profile picture of the author gtrplyr
      Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

      How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

      I have a nice stream of Adsense income that has been on the rise since May 2006. The trick is, there is no trick! The instructions at the beginning of this thread are pretty much what I have been using with the exception of UAW. I push for each site to generate no less than $38.00 per day and pretty much will push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips until I get it there and then move on to the next site. It's laborious work but it sure pays off!
      If you've got each site generating $38+ per day, you're either getting a ****load of traffic or you're getting high-paying clicks.

      It seems either way its hard to rank well. For a niche that is getting a ton of clicks, ther's usually already someone in the top spot getting those clicks. And obviously, for niches with high paying clicks, other sites are all over that as well. The competition must be outrageous, no?
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    • Profile picture of the author KateD
      Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

      How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

      I have a nice stream of Adsense income that has been on the rise since May 2006. The trick is, there is no trick! The instructions at the beginning of this thread are pretty much what I have been using with the exception of UAW. I push for each site to generate no less than $38.00 per day and pretty much will push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips until I get it there and then move on to the next site. It's laborious work but it sure pays off!
      Great post!

      I have two questions for you:

      1. When you say that you "push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips", what exactly do you mean?

      I started a blog about 3 weeks ago. In that time, I have written and published 23 articles to Ezinearticles.com, another 5 articles to 100 other article directories, bookmarked on 25 social networking sites, and I even created a link wheel of 7 web2.0 properties each pointing back to my blog.

      What else are you doing?

      2. How long does it take you to get to $38 per day? I know that a number of factors are involved and niche selection is critical, but on average, how long does it take to get to that level?


      Thanks in advance for sharing some of your wisdom.

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      • Profile picture of the author WadeWinger
        I think you hit is on the noise with your last comment KateD "I know that a number of factors are involved and niche selection is critical" .

        Niche selection is key. The keywords you choose to target will make or break you.

        You can Karate chop all you want in some niches, but no matter what you do you will never rank on the first page for some keywords. It is just a fact. On the other hand you can rank on the first page within a week for other keywords.

        For the first keyword I ever tried to rank for with my new Adsense business, my site was on the first page of Google within one week. That site is bringing in a trickle of money everyday now.

        I think I did one Karate chop to achieve that :-)

        And this was just two weeks ago.
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      • Originally Posted by KateD View Post

        Great post!

        I have two questions for you:

        1. When you say that you "push, body slam, karate chop, drop kick and do flips", what exactly do you mean?

        I started a blog about 3 weeks ago. In that time, I have written and published 23 articles to Ezinearticles.com, another 5 articles to 100 other article directories, bookmarked on 25 social networking sites, and I even created a link wheel of 7 web2.0 properties each pointing back to my blog.

        What else are you doing?

        2. How long does it take you to get to $38 per day? I know that a number of factors are involved and niche selection is critical, but on average, how long does it take to get to that level?


        Thanks in advance for sharing some of your wisdom.

        KateD
        Wade gave you the real answer to what I think is the issue: "I'm doing all this stuff, been a few weeks already, am I going to see much return, and how long should it take??"

        It all comes down to keywords/phrases.

        I did a thread that might help shed some light: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...backlinks.html

        The bottom line: Adsense is all about numbers, most important of which is traffic. Without it, well, nothing much matters.

        Lots of ways to get traffic - in this case, we're talking organic search traffic.

        The way to get organic traffic is to be on Page 1 for our targeted keywords/phrases. Full stop.

        Realize that the term 'ranking' is a relative term. It only means something in relation to a keyword/phrase.

        Now if our target phrase doesn't get much search volume, well than obviously no amount of time, articles, or link-building is going to result in a lot of traffic. So selecting what we target is critical.

        Secondly, it has to be a phrase we can reasonably expect to get to Page 1 for.

        From that point, it simply becomes how much time and what effort is required.

        Hope that helps~

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        • Profile picture of the author Riposte
          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

          The way to get organic traffic is to be on Page 1 for our targeted keywords/phrases. Full stop.
          I've got dozens of sites on page 1 (ranking between #5-10) for their respective keywords, and the traffic is minimal (0-4 uniques a day). And these are keywords getting 2,000 to 10,000+ monthly searches.
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          • Originally Posted by Riposte View Post

            I've got dozens of sites on page 1 (ranking between #5-10) for their respective keywords, and the traffic is minimal (0-4 uniques a day). And these are keywords getting 2,000 to 10,000+ monthly searches.
            Hey Riposte,

            First, where are those search volume numbers coming from, and with what parameters i.e. Wordtracker, Google Broad Match, Phrase Match, etc.?

            Even if those numbers are accurate, that may not be far off.

            2000 searches/month = appx. 66/day. The #1 spot will often get as much as 50% of the clicks. The top 3 combined may get as much as 66-75%. That leaves appx. 16-22 clicks divided between the bottom 7, usually split in decreasing %.

            Also, the type of keyword/phrase plays into the division of clicks. For instance, informational searches tend to get distributed more proportionally than product searches, where often the first listing with the 'right' word or phrase in it ("review", "discount", "product-name", etc.).

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  • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
    I'm in SOME fiercely competitive niches BUT the reason I can maintain is because of my marketing and game plan. Here's my game plan for which I do not deviate...

    (1). If my CTR "IS NOT" at a minimum of 6.5%, I will tweak the site, analyze the traffic, scream at my monitor, change my Adsense Ad layout, alter the website color scheme, change the header, apologize to my monitor, change my background, improve my content, sing a lullaby to the site and viola, I get there! This is crucial. If you have a low CTR, you are wasting your time and traffic.

    (2). Shoot for a minimum of 1000 impressions per day per site. Once you get there with that type of CTR, you're in the green! That has been the magic number for every Adsense site that I have built.

    (3). Shoot for a bounce rate of in the range of 44% to 55%. Of course Adsense sites, the objective is to get them to click the ads and their gone. However, with truly good content, your site becomes viral via word of mouth.

    (4). Goes without saying, stay away from spammy keywords even if they are high paying.

    (5). When I said drop kick, etc., I was speaking metaphorically. Actually I was referring to marketing. I use every available means, AM, Web 2.0, VM, BM and SEO and link building.

    Once you get the site established, go in every now and then and add articles and short posts, (Each of my Adsense sites has a Traditional website with a blog attached to it). I found that my CTR dropped when I went Blog only.
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  • Profile picture of the author kumkum
    wow $100 a day...
    That's every IM dream of..

    Great post,.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
    Hello Internetmarketer,

    Thanks for all the info most especially making me believe that I can use wordpress to get the same result as well as static sites.

    I have some few questions though...

    1. Do you edit the bluesense theme header, sidebars and the already made adsense blocks?

    2. If yes to ? 1, what size of adsense blocks do you use and how do you arrange to get a good CTR ? Pls. I need this for a start, I would also think outside the box by tweaking and testing to see if i am going to get a better CTR.

    Thanks alot
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    • Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele View Post

      Hello Internetmarketer,

      Thanks for all the info most especially making me believe that I can use wordpress to get the same result as well as static sites.

      I have some few questions though...

      1. Do you edit the bluesense theme header, sidebars and the already made adsense blocks?

      2. If yes to ? 1, what size of adsense blocks do you use and how do you arrange to get a good CTR ? Pls. I need this for a start, I would also think outside the box by tweaking and testing to see if i am going to get a better CTR.

      Thanks alot
      Hi Sowemimo,

      I use the BlueSense theme as it is "out of the box" as far as Adsense goes (of course you must edit to put your own Adsense publisher ID in).

      The only changes I make are editing some of the theme links, such as "powered by Wordpress", "Dosh-Dosh", and "Valid XHTML" to NoFollow links.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Hi Sowemimo,

        I use the BlueSense theme as it is "out of the box" as far as Adsense goes (of course you must edit to put your own Adsense publisher ID in).

        The only changes I make are editing some of the theme links, such as "powered by Wordpress", "Dosh-Dosh", and "Valid XHTML" to NoFollow links.

        Mark
        Thanks Mark,

        However, what had been your average CTR since you have been using bluesense?


        Overall, I need to thank you once again,your OP is worth a WSO....so thanks for making it free...

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  • Profile picture of the author cctravis
    Do you think the BlueSense theme is against the TOS? Are the adds not defined enough where google might consider it bad? Is it to obvious that the site was created just for adwords?

    Just would love to know if anyone has got a letter from google when using this theme out of the box.
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    • Originally Posted by cctravis View Post

      Do you think the BlueSense theme is against the TOS? Are the adds not defined enough where google might consider it bad? Is it to obvious that the site was created just for adwords?

      Just would love to know if anyone has got a letter from google when using this theme out of the box.
      There is nothing inherent in BlueSense that violates TOS.

      And, there are thousands of BlueSense sites out there - I'm sure some have come up for review.

      By itself, having Adsense ads doesn't mean a site is created for Adsense. That would disqualify every site that is monetized solely with Adsense.

      BlueSense is a safe, proven, and very effective theme.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I'm going to keep you guys updated in this thread on how my progress has been going. I picked up five sites and gave XFactor's methods a go. Basically the same stuff here, except I have static pages instead of blogs. I'll be doing it with wordpress with the next group of domain names I get.

    Right now i'm just waiting for my sites to index and see where they place in the rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
      What's the easiest way to insert my AdSense publisher ID into the BlueSense theme? I edited the sources in nVu and when I uploaded them the pages came out looking real ugly and disfigured(even though all I did was copy and paste my own ID). I downloaded a different WYSIWYG editor as well but it doesn't even let me edit .php pages.

      Best Regards 'n Thanks in Advance,

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      • Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

        What's the easiest way to insert my AdSense publisher ID into the BlueSense theme? I edited the sources in nVu and when I uploaded them the pages came out looking real ugly and disfigured(even though all I did was copy and paste my own ID). I downloaded a different WYSIWYG editor as well but it doesn't even let me edit .php pages.

        Best Regards 'n Thanks in Advance,

        Jake Daly
        Hey Jake,

        You always want to use the "Edit Theme" function from within Wordpress. From your wp-admin screen, go to "Appearance" then "Editor". This will list all the theme's files on the right. Click on the one you want to edit and it will open it in the window.

        Note: You must first change the permissions to make them writable on the files you want to edit first (located in .../wp-content/themes/BlueSense). You can do this with cPanel or your FTP program. Make SURE you change them back afterwards!

        The files you need to edit are:

        single_top_adverts.php
        single_bottom_adverts.php
        header_adverts.php
        sidebar.php

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    • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      I'm going to keep you guys updated in this thread on how my progress has been going. I picked up five sites and gave XFactor's methods a go. Basically the same stuff here, except I have static pages instead of blogs. I'll be doing it with wordpress with the next group of domain names I get.

      Right now i'm just waiting for my sites to index and see where they place in the rankings.
      Good deal!

      John's system and methods are terrific, and they work - and I say that from direct experience. And John's generosity in posting his methods and all the time he's put into answering questions is one of the main reasons I decided to create this thread.

      This model is a little different. I tend to focus on higher-EPC keywords/phrases, and 'larger' sites. It can take more time and effort, but the returns per site are higher.

      As I'm sure John would agree, diversification is always a good thing - to a point, of course.

      You won't go wrong with either plan if you follow the process and keep at it.

      I for one would definitely appreciate updates!

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    nice, this is great stuff ....thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author MSGeek
    Why not article marketing? It seems to be very popular these days.

    Also, still wondering how do you get great conversions on the page? Is it really just BlueSense WordPress theme? Seems too easy. Or is it just a number game?
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  • Profile picture of the author justnewbie
    Thanks for the post, Mark... it's great deal of info for newbies like me. Some quick questions.

    Do you generalize which kind of niches go into Adsense, CPAs, affiliates etc? For example, if i'm on a niche that sells physical products like pet food, should I be targetting adsense or affiliates?

    Another example I'd use is debt consolidation. it's a high paying niche in adsense and plenty of CPA offers. Which will you go for?
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    • Profile picture of the author WadeWinger
      Question for: internetmarketer99

      I was wondering if you have tried xfactors adsense template? If so how did it compare to themes you have been using.

      Also, how exactly to you split test adsense websites?
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      • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
        Once I set up a Home page and change it to static, am I still able to use Wordpress to write my anchor text.. or do I have to use an HTML editor to edit it?

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        • Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

          Once I set up a Home page and change it to static, am I still able to use Wordpress to write my anchor text.. or do I have to use an HTML editor to edit it?

          Thanks,
          Jake Daly
          Hey Jake,

          Yup, you do everything in Wordpress. In fact, you shouldn't have to touch an HTML editor for anything if you're using Wordpress.

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      • Originally Posted by WadeWinger View Post

        Question for: internetmarketer99

        I was wondering if you have tried xfactors adsense template? If so how did it compare to themes you have been using.

        Also, how exactly to you split test adsense websites?
        Hey Wade,

        Yup, I've tried his template. I bought his course and wrote the review in the "Reviews" section.

        His system has a different focus than the one I've described here. His system is wonderful, and if you follow his method you will get great results.

        That said, it's based on targeting products, with the primary keyword in the domain name, and a layout designed to focus attention on a single main adblock.

        It works extremely well as-is, and I now have about a dozen sites following his blueprint exactly.

        What I've laid out here is different. My focus is on higher EPC keywords requiring more in the way of SEO.

        The reason for using Wordpress is it's SEO advantages; the reason for using BlueSense is it's excellent Adsense optimization for this type of site (I would not use BlueSense for product-centric sites).

        In terms of split-testing, Google Website Optimizer is free and very powerful: http://www.google.com/websiteoptimizer

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        • Profile picture of the author XFactor
          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

          Hey Wade,

          Yup, I've tried his template. I bought his course and wrote the review in the "Reviews" section.

          His system has a different focus than the one I've described here. His system is wonderful, and if you follow his method you will get great results.

          That said, it's based on targeting products, with the primary keyword in the domain name, and a layout designed to focus attention on a single main adblock.

          It works extremely well as-is, and I now have about a dozen sites following his blueprint exactly.

          What I've laid out here is different. My focus is on higher EPC keywords requiring more in the way of SEO.

          The reason for using Wordpress is it's SEO advantages; the reason for using BlueSense is it's excellent Adsense optimization for this type of site (I would not use BlueSense for product-centric sites).

          In terms of split-testing, Google Website Optimizer is free and very powerful: http://www.google.com/websiteoptimizer

          Mark
          Mark, this is a very good thread and it is great to see someone else
          really give some good content as I have.

          What I like about this thread is that you are not just trying to do it
          "one way". I've been trying to tell people this for a long time - that
          you can approach this business in so many directions.

          As for the question on my template, it works amazingly well because

          of the super targeted niche approach.

          When someone is looking for "glossy picture frames" and all they
          see is a few blue links that catch their eye on that exact product,

          then - bingo - they click.

          However, with Mark's approach you may want to follow his advice
          on a different layout since the niche selection is different.

          Nothing is ever better or worse, just different. The key is to work
          smart from the start.

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  • Thanks John,

    As I mentioned in the OP, the generosity of your original threads were what motivated me to go to the effort on this one.

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  • Profile picture of the author pan2588
    Got some good quality information from your post. Actually people talk a lot about adsense, but many of them do not know the correct things. Thanks for being so elaborate on the explanation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
    Hey Mark,

    I sent you a pm but I thought it might be good to ask publicly might help someone else. Ever since Google has changed you can no longer search for a keyword in quotes and get the correct amount of competing pages.

    I'm just wondering if this is a problem with the keyword tools people use to find good phrases. I have been told you can find the proper number of competing sites by putting the phrase in quotes " " then just keep clicking till you find the last page and it will show the real amount of results.

    I find it only allows me to go 50-60 pages deep now so if the keyword has more then 500-600 competing pages I wont know it's competition level.

    Anyways hope this makes sense and if anyone can give me some info on how there dealing with this id appreciate it. Currently im doing things my way and doing a bit of guessing.

    thanks,


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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
      Originally Posted by TrevorIS View Post

      Hey Mark,

      I sent you a pm but I thought it might be good to ask publicly might help someone else. Ever since Google has changed you can no longer search for a keyword in quotes and get the correct amount of competing pages.

      I'm just wondering if this is a problem with the keyword tools people use to find good phrases. I have been told you can find the proper number of competing sites by putting the phrase in quotes " " then just keep clicking till you find the last page and it will show the real amount of results.

      I find it only allows me to go 50-60 pages deep now so if the keyword has more then 500-600 competing pages I wont know it's competition level.

      Anyways hope this makes sense and if anyone can give me some info on how there dealing with this id appreciate it. Currently im doing things my way and doing a bit of guessing.

      thanks,


      - Trevor
      Set your default to show the first 100 results rather than the first 25 and the numbers will be correct most of the time. MNF made this adjustment, I believe.
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  • Profile picture of the author he_august
    Nice post...I want to take part on Adsense also, and i'll follow your sugesstion as my second step :>
    My first step is building my personal blogging...
    Let me know if my first step is wrong
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor Somerville
    Thanks Carl that definently makes it easier to find competition levels.

    Mark- do you usually keep the same title and subtitle on every page of your bluesense blogs and just change the page title and <H1> or do you use an seo plugin or something and change the main title and subtitle to suit each page.


    - Trevor
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    • Originally Posted by TrevorIS View Post

      Thanks Carl that definently makes it easier to find competition levels.

      Mark- do you usually keep the same title and subtitle on every page of your bluesense blogs and just change the page title and <H1> or do you use an seo plugin or something and change the main title and subtitle to suit each page.


      - Trevor
      I use the Alli-in-one SEO plugin: WordPress › All in One SEO Pack WordPress Plugins

      Otherwise, I let Wordpress do the rest. Of course I make sure to focus each page on only one keyword/phrase, which I make part of the title, in the first sentence, and first sentence of the last paragraph.

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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    Hi,
    I have got started with this adsense thing and I think I have followed the instructions very carefully.
    I found the high cpc keywords( its around $6), built a site around it and the site is now ranked on the first page of google.

    I am even getting a decent clickthrough, but the problem is that I am getting paid less than 20 cents per click.

    Could you please help me out and tell me how to get a decent pay from those clicks.
    what am I doing wrong.
    am i smart priced or something. my adsense account is a fairly new one.

    I have even started a new thread for getting some help, but no one replied.
    here's the post in case, you want to answer there---> http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...per-click.html

    waiting eagerly for your reply.

    regards,
    faraz
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    • Originally Posted by visit_faraz View Post

      Hi,
      I have got started with this adsense thing and I think I have followed the instructions very carefully.
      I found the high cpc keywords( its around $6), built a site around it and the site is now ranked on the first page of google.

      I am even getting a decent clickthrough, but the problem is that I am getting paid less than 20 cents per click.

      Could you please help me out and tell me how to get a decent pay from those clicks.
      what am I doing wrong.
      am i smart priced or something. my adsense account is a fairly new one.

      I have even started a new thread for getting some help, but no one replied.
      here's the post in case, you want to answer there---> http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...per-click.html

      waiting eagerly for your reply.

      regards,
      faraz
      Hey Faraz,

      It's hard to say without more info such as how long, how many clicks, the layout, keyword, etc.

      What I can say is that if you've just begun, and this is your first foray into Adsense, it isn't likely you've been Smart Priced.

      If you'd like to PM me your site and details, I'll take a look and post my 'analysis' here (without the keyword & site) for others following this thread.

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      • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
        Hi Mark,
        I sent you a pm with the url to my site.
        would love to get some tips from you.

        regards,
        faraz
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      • Profile picture of the author Sebulba
        I have never heard the term Smart Priced. What is that?

        Thanks

        Seb

        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Hey Faraz,

        It's hard to say without more info such as how long, how many clicks, the layout, keyword, etc.

        What I can say is that if you've just begun, and this is your first foray into Adsense, it isn't likely you've been Smart Priced.

        If you'd like to PM me your site and details, I'll take a look and post my 'analysis' here (without the keyword & site) for others following this thread.

        Mark
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        • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

          Just thought I'd give an update. A few of my sites have finally indexed. Still need to wait for things to bounce around though.

          I had a spread sheet of potential keywords that I was going to go after in the future. I was going through them today and noticed some guy already had a site up lol. I think he was inspired by Xfactor, even though he just has on static page. I've seen him for a lot of different terms I've been searching. The worst part is that he's ranking in the top 10 with no keywords.

          I decided to buy up a bunch of domains now to make sure I'm atleast in control of things. Even putting up a basic lander and than optimizing them when I have the time.
          Thanks for the update, Stallion; keep 'em coming.

          Often when you key in on something, all of a sudden it's everywhere. And of course there are a lot of people all of a sudden following John's model, many of them thinking along the same lines.


          Originally Posted by Sebulba View Post

          I have never heard the term Smart Priced. What is that?

          Thanks

          Seb
          @Seb,

          "Smart Pricing" is an Adsense policy where Google will discount the cost to Adwords advertisers on the Content Network (Adsense) if the advertiser is getting very low conversions.

          Unfortunately, if Google decides to "Smart Price" an Adsense site, it also means that the publisher - us - see sharply reduced EPC's, usually below $.20 per click.

          Worst of all, "Smart Pricing" gets applied to the publisher account, not just an individual site.

          It's the "Kiss of Death", and the only thing worse could be having your account banned.

          Once you've been "Smart Priced", all clicks on all sites get reduced to something below $.20 per click.


          Originally Posted by jimcal View Post

          Hi Mark,
          If you are running 100 websites, what type of tool do you use to keep track of everything.
          Thanks,
          Jim
          @Jim,

          Great question! One thing anyone who pursue's a many-site Adsense strategy quickly finds is that it becomes increasingly difficult keeping up with and managing everything.

          I have an Excel spreadsheet that I list all my Adsense sites on, one site per row. Next to the URL, I have columns set up noting when they were indexed and set up in Google Webmaster Tools, then in each subsequent column, every time I do something I enter a code and the date. The codes includes submitting an article ("EZA 8-15", etc.), Social Bookmarking a page ("OW 8-20" for Onlywire, etc.), a run of Unique Article Wizard ("UAW 8-20", etc.), a run of Comment Kahuna ("CK 8-25"), etc.

          This lets me see at a glance which sites are 'behind' in terms of maintaining "Link Velocity", assuring I'm covering all sites, etc.

          For the sites themselves, if they're static HTML sites, I use Xsitepro which allows you to manage your sites by project, and if they're Wordpress, I use WordpressMU (Multi-User) which lets me manage and maintain all of them from a single WP interface.

          That was a really good question, and I cannot over-state the importance of consistency in moving sites forward.


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          • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            I have an Excel spreadsheet that I list all my Adsense sites on, one site per row. Next to the URL, I have columns set up noting when they were indexed and set up in Google Webmaster Tools, then in each subsequent column, every time I do something I enter a code and the date. The codes includes submitting an article ("EZA 8-15", etc.), Social Bookmarking a page ("OW 8-20" for Onlywire, etc.), a run of Unique Article Wizard ("UAW 8-20", etc.), a run of Comment Kahuna ("CK 8-25"), etc.

            This lets me see at a glance which sites are 'behind' in terms of maintaining "Link Velocity", assuring I'm covering all sites, etc.
            Thanks Mark. Organization is one of my big concerns as I start picking up momentum. I was thinking about using a spreadsheet for this, but I had not been able to think of a good way to implement this, so this info is very helpful. I need to get on the ball with this before it gets out of hand.

            I don't know if it applys to this or not, but Icansoft sells a site manager application that might be useful for organizing this stuff. Unfortunately, it is not 64bit compatible so I haven't used it.

            Patrick
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            • Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

              Thanks Mark. Organization is one of my big concerns as I start picking up momentum. I was thinking about using a spreadsheet for this, but I had not been able to think of a good way to implement this, so this info is very helpful. I need to get on the ball with this before it gets out of hand.

              I don't know if it applys to this or not, but Icansoft sells a site manager application that might be useful for organizing this stuff. Unfortunately, it is not 64bit compatible so I haven't used it.

              Patrick
              I've learned - the hard way, more than once - that if I don't get on top of that stuff from the beginning, it quickly overwhelms me.

              As for Incansoft, I think you're referring to their "Domain Acquisition Manager". If so, it's more of a domain name manager than a 'site info' manager.

              That said, I'm a big fan of Big Mike's. I use and wholeheartedly recommend RSSBot and SocialBot. In fact, they're a key part of my ranking strategy for every one of my sites, Adsense or otherwise.

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              • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
                Hey Mark, how long does it usually take you to get your sites indexed? According to my AWStats, I've been visited by Google bots 0+4 times(?). I found out yesterday, in that new SEO Strategy thread, that the worst thing you can do is Google bookmark your own website right off the bat and regretfully, that's what I did just a few days ago thinking it would be the fastest way to get crawled. I assume my site will be indexed pretty soon and I've blog commented and social bookmarked a few sites to speed up the process, but will Google bookmarking my site right off the bat have any true impact on whether or not I get sandboxed?

                Thanks,

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                • Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

                  Hey Mark, how long does it usually take you to get your sites indexed? According to my AWStats, I've been visited by Google bots 0+4 times(?). I found out yesterday, in that new SEO Strategy thread, that the worst thing you can do is Google bookmark your own website right off the bat and regretfully, that's what I did just a few days ago thinking it would be the fastest way to get crawled. I assume my site will be indexed pretty soon and I've blog commented and social bookmarked a few sites to speed up the process, but will Google bookmarking my site right off the bat have any true impact on whether or not I get sandboxed?

                  Thanks,

                  Jake Daly
                  Hey Jake,

                  Was wondering how you were progressing

                  Nothing wrong with bookmarking your site with Google. Sometimes it just takes a few days even if you bookmark, Digg, etc. Don't believe everything you read, though I'm not familiar with the thread you're referring to.

                  If Google's crawler has reached your site, it's a matter of hours to a day or so.

                  I generally don't worry too much about it since I have a continuous 'queue' of new sites coming online. If it takes a day or four days, it doesn't make too much difference.

                  Usually my sites are indexed within 2 days, and I almost always follow the same game plan:

                  Set up a new domain, point nameservers, wait a day for it to propagate.

                  Then in I'll Publish the initial site.

                  Immediately enter the site in Webmaster Tools, verify it, submit sitemap.

                  Immediately Digg, Stumble, and Onlywire the homepage.

                  Immediately Ping the Digg listing.

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                • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
                  Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

                  Hey Mark, how long does it usually take you to get your sites indexed? According to my AWStats, I've been visited by Google bots 0+4 times(?). I found out yesterday, in that new SEO Strategy thread, that the worst thing you can do is Google bookmark your own website right off the bat and regretfully, that's what I did just a few days ago thinking it would be the fastest way to get crawled. I assume my site will be indexed pretty soon and I've blog commented and social bookmarked a few sites to speed up the process, but will Google bookmarking my site right off the bat have any true impact on whether or not I get sandboxed?

                  Thanks,

                  Jake Daly
                  Some may disagree, but I find it helps to go ahead and put your sites into Google's Webmaster Tools and it makes it easier to keep up with your indexing progress. It also helps to help show you how Google views your site. Some people feel you are leaving a trail for Google to track you, but I think if you're not doing anything wrong there's nothing to worry about, and they can track you anyway if you have Adsense on the sites.
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                  • Originally Posted by Carl Pruitt View Post

                    Some may disagree, but I find it helps to go ahead and put your sites into Google's Webmaster Tools and it makes it easier to keep up with your indexing progress. It also helps to help show you how Google views your site. Some people feel you are leaving a trail for Google to track you, but I think if you're not doing anything wrong there's nothing to worry about, and they can track you anyway if you have Adsense on the sites.
                    There is absolute *gold* in Google Webmaster Tools!

                    If you aren't using it, you're neglecting one of the best tools for ranking, free or otherwise.

                    Webmaster Tools will show you all the links that Google picks up - in other words, the ones that count towards your ranking.

                    It's as if someone said, "Hey, you're spinning your wheels trying to do all these backlinking activities blind. Here's where you should focus, and here's where you're wasting your time".

                    Generally, if a SB link doesn't show up after a month, I'm wasting my time with that SB site.

                    If a link DOES show up, I know where to make sure and input *all* my sites.

                    See a link you don't recognize? Click on it. It may be a blog that picked up an article. Comment on it with other URL's.

                    Want to know what you're ranking for, maybe even phrases you weren't targeting? Webmaster Tools can show you where you might be able to get big bang for your buck by putting a little effort into phrases you're ranking for that you weren't targeting.

                    Etc.

                    If you aren't using Webmaster Tools, not only are you 'driving blind', but you're squandering some crucial data that's there for the taking.

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                    • Profile picture of the author lonniewa2
                      Hey Mike this thread along with xfactor's thread and course we have a gold mine of information here. Great work!

                      I do have a question or two though. You said that you use RSSbot and Socialbot. Can you explain how these tools fits in your marketing strategies? I mean:

                      When do you use them?
                      How often do you use them on each website?
                      Do you only use one keyword?
                      Do you submit to all or some?

                      I just would like to know how you use these tools without getting sandboxed. I have these tools but do not know how to use them in a way that is safe.

                      If the questions above is to much any general advice when using them will do.

                      thanks,
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                      • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                        I've spent the better part of the last 3 years tweaking, tweaking and tweaking some more a single site that is now doing better than $90 per day. It is a constant battle to reach the $100 per day but by the end of the year I should be there. I have had numerous $100 days, just not on average. I also incorporate affiliate marketing along with in-text advertising for an overall income from this site close to $50k per year.

                        Do a search for "herbal remedies" to have a look at the site. As of today, it is sitting in position #1 for that term. Take a look at the Adsense placement to get an idea of what works really well.

                        Best of luck to all.
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                        • Originally Posted by RatherBeInCabo View Post

                          I've spent the better part of the last 3 years tweaking, tweaking and tweaking some more a single site that is now doing better than $90 per day. It is a constant battle to reach the $100 per day but by the end of the year I should be there. I have had numerous $100 days, just not on average. I also incorporate affiliate marketing along with in-text advertising for an overall income from this site close to $50k per year.

                          Do a search for "herbal remedies" to have a look at the site. As of today, it is sitting in position #1 for that term. Take a look at the Adsense placement to get an idea of what works really well.

                          Best of luck to all.
                          Great work, great results!

                          Here's an unbeatable offer for you:

                          Change your main adblock to the default color scheme of blue link, green URL, and you will see a sharp increase in CTR, and tip over that $100/day average.

                          If you don't see a sharp improvement just doing that, I'll give you 2x your money back!

                          I know you've said you've tested & tweaked ad nauseum, but I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that if you just make the link stand out more and blend a little less, you'll see a sharp improvement in CTR. If you've tried the default blue, try it again, or perhaps a slightly subtler blue, or sharper green.

                          Of course, this is assuming I'm looking at the right site...!

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                          • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                            Great work, great results!

                            Here's an unbeatable offer for you:

                            Change your main adblock to the default color scheme of blue link, green URL, and you will see a sharp increase in CTR, and tip over that $100/day average.

                            If you don't see a sharp improvement just doing that, I'll give you 2x your money back!

                            I know you've said you've tested & tweaked ad nauseum, but I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that if you just make the link stand out more and blend a little less, you'll see a sharp improvement in CTR. If you've tried the default blue, try it again, or perhaps a slightly subtler blue, or sharper green.

                            Of course, this is assuming I'm looking at the right site...!

                            Mark
                            Thanks Mark,

                            I have used that blue in the past and will give it a go again. I just changed all the colors and it should take 15 minutes to update.

                            The main block at the top of the pages for the month of August had a 3.67% CTR and the overall for the site was 5.05%.

                            I will leave it like this for the entire month of September going forward and report back at the end of the month.

                            Regards,

                            Marc
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                            • Profile picture of the author freezzo
                              Just trying to make sure I understand the keyword research finally. I found a 3 word phrase in google keyword tool that shows about 301k avg, 368k searchs last month. When i paste the phrase in google with quotes, it says there are about 25k websites. Is that a good ratio, and something that would be beneficial to pursue?

                              Thanks!
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                              • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
                                Originally Posted by freezzo View Post

                                Just trying to make sure I understand the keyword research finally. I found a 3 word phrase in google keyword tool that shows about 301k avg, 368k searchs last month. When i paste the phrase in google with quotes, it says there are about 25k websites. Is that a good ratio, and something that would be beneficial to pursue?

                                Thanks!
                                If those numbers are correct, that would be a goldmine.

                                Patrick
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                          • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                            Great work, great results!

                            Here's an unbeatable offer for you:

                            Change your main adblock to the default color scheme of blue link, green URL, and you will see a sharp increase in CTR, and tip over that $100/day average.

                            If you don't see a sharp improvement just doing that, I'll give you 2x your money back!

                            I know you've said you've tested & tweaked ad nauseum, but I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that if you just make the link stand out more and blend a little less, you'll see a sharp improvement in CTR. If you've tried the default blue, try it again, or perhaps a slightly subtler blue, or sharper green.

                            Of course, this is assuming I'm looking at the right site...!

                            Mark
                            Hi Mark,

                            I have seen a small increase to about 5% CTR on the top 300x250 block on the herbal remedies site. Any other overall suggestions you could offer on the site to further improve CTR?

                            Thanks,

                            Marc
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                            • Originally Posted by RatherBeInCabo View Post

                              Hi Mark,

                              I have seen a small increase to about 5% CTR on the top 300x250 block on the herbal remedies site. Any other overall suggestions you could offer on the site to further improve CTR?

                              Thanks,

                              Marc
                              Yup - get rid of that search box just below the headline, or at least change the red text to something much subtler and less bold.

                              And while that center-left image makes the site nicer, it's definitely detracting from CTR.

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                              • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                                Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                                Yup - get rid of that search box just below the headline, or at least change the red text to something much subtler and less bold.

                                And while that center-left image makes the site nicer, it's definitely detracting from CTR.

                                Mark
                                I was using the red text to draw attention to the search box as it does bring in $10 per day. I'll give it a shot with the text removed. Do you think the search overall hurst the CTR? I do have a "Search" page linked on the nav bar.

                                What about the 120x600's below the nav bar? CTR is less than 0.5% but still brings in more than $10 per day.

                                Thanks,

                                Marc
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                          • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                            Here's an unbeatable offer for you:

                            Change your main adblock to the default color scheme of blue link, green URL, and you will see a sharp increase in CTR, and tip over that $100/day average.

                            If you don't see a sharp improvement just doing that, I'll give you 2x your money back!
                            Ok, 17 days into the month, the CPM is identical to what it was last month using the color scheme that matches the site.

                            Marc
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                            • Originally Posted by RatherBeInCabo View Post

                              Ok, 17 days into the month, the CPM is identical to what it was last month using the color scheme that matches the site.

                              Marc
                              Hi Marc,

                              I just took a look - looks great, btw - and it's hard for me to imagine you're not seeing a significant improvement.

                              Is your CTR the same? How long since you switched? Have you looked at individual days ("Today", "Yesterday", "Last 7 Days") rather than "This Month"?

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                              • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                                Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                                Hi Marc,

                                I just took a look - looks great, btw - and it's hard for me to imagine you're not seeing a significant improvement.

                                Is your CTR the same? How long since you switched? Have you looked at individual days ("Today", "Yesterday", "Last 7 Days") rather than "This Month"?

                                Mark
                                Hi Mark,

                                What I meant to say in the last post was that the CTR is identical. That is 17 days of this month using the current colors vs the entire last month using the color scheme that matched my site.

                                I have had individual days where the CTR was better as well as lower but on average, it is the same.

                                Marc
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                                • Originally Posted by RatherBeInCabo View Post

                                  Hi Mark,

                                  What I meant to say in the last post was that the CTR is identical. That is 17 days of this month using the current colors vs the entire last month using the color scheme that matched my site.

                                  I have had individual days where the CTR was better as well as lower but on average, it is the same.

                                  Marc
                                  Well, I might just have to make good on the double-your-money-back guarantee...

                                  It's not clear to me why you aren't seeing a consistent significant increase in CTR. It would bear closer scrutiny of the numbers to discern, but would definitely be worth the time and effort.

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                                  • Profile picture of the author RatherBeInCabo
                                    Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                                    Well, I might just have to make good on the double-your-money-back guarantee...

                                    It's not clear to me why you aren't seeing a consistent significant increase in CTR. It would bear closer scrutiny of the numbers to discern, but would definitely be worth the time and effort.

                                    Mark
                                    What exact numbers would be helpful?
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                      • Originally Posted by lonniewa2 View Post

                        Hey Mike this thread along with xfactor's thread and course we have a gold mine of information here. Great work!

                        I do have a question or two though. You said that you use RSSbot and Socialbot. Can you explain how these tools fits in your marketing strategies? I mean:

                        When do you use them?
                        How often do you use them on each website?
                        Do you only use one keyword?
                        Do you submit to all or some?

                        I just would like to know how you use these tools without getting sandboxed. I have these tools but do not know how to use them in a way that is safe.

                        If the questions above is to much any general advice when using them will do.

                        thanks,
                        Great questions!

                        SocialBot, which is Incansoft's (Big Mike) Social Bookmarking program, is one of the most heavily relied on tools in my 'arsenal'.

                        As soon as I have a site up, I enter it into SocialBot, let it spider the initial pages, than have it submit the homepage. From there on, every day or two, I'll have it submit another page. Every week or two, depending on how often I update the site, I'll have it "re-spider" the site to pick up the new pages, and continue on.

                        For RSSBot, similar plan. I enter my RSS feed and launch the program, having it list the feed at all of it's aggregators. Now in terms of my Wordpress setup, I load all of the RSS sites into WP directly (Settings/Writing/Update Services), so that every time I make a new page or post, it will ping those sites.

                        Yes, I always target a single keyword/phrase at a time. In fact, that one of the keys to the overall approach, and important to understand. When you are trying to rank, you are actually trying to rank for a given keyword. I always focus each effort, whether it's a WP site page, the keyword field, the anchor text in an article submission, etc.

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                        • Profile picture of the author lonniewa2
                          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                          Great questions!

                          SocialBot, which is Incansoft's (Big Mike) Social Bookmarking program, is one of the most heavily relied on tools in my 'arsenal'.

                          As soon as I have a site up, I enter it into SocialBot, let it spider the initial pages, than have it submit the homepage. From there on, every day or two, I'll have it submit another page. Every week or two, depending on how often I update the site, I'll have it "re-spider" the site to pick up the new pages, and continue on.

                          For RSSBot, similar plan. I enter my RSS feed and launch the program, having it list the feed at all of it's aggregators. Now in terms of my Wordpress setup, I load all of the RSS sites into WP directly (Settings/Writing/Update Services), so that every time I make a new page or post, it will ping those sites.

                          Yes, I always target a single keyword/phrase at a time. In fact, that one of the keys to the overall approach, and important to understand. When you are trying to rank, you are actually trying to rank for a given keyword. I always focus each effort, whether it's a WP site page, the keyword field, the anchor text in an article submission, etc.

                          Mark
                          Let me make sure that I understand you correctly. When you submit to directories with socialbot and rssbot you submit to all directories/websites in that software? You do not use a subset or anything like that.

                          I just want to make sure that I understand you right because another program that I used months ago I submitted my new website to over 100 rss directories and my website got buried on page 100 or something like that which never happen to me before.
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                          • Originally Posted by lonniewa2 View Post

                            Let me make sure that I understand you correctly. When you submit to directories with socialbot and rssbot you submit to all directories/websites in that software? You do not use a subset or anything like that.

                            I just want to make sure that I understand you right because another program that I used months ago I submitted my new website to over 100 rss directories and my website got buried on page 100 or something like that which never happen to me before.
                            Good point, shoulda mentioned. Yes, for SocialBot, I have 3 different profiles. The main one I use has about 12 of the SB sites. These were chosen because they are the ones that show up in Google Webmaster Tools for my sites, so I know Google is finding them.

                            In terms of RSSBot, I submit my initial feeds to all. FWIW, I don't think submitting your RSS feed to too many RSS directories is what would have caused your site to get 'buried'.

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                            • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
                              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                              Good point, shoulda mentioned. Yes, for SocialBot, I have 3 different profiles. The main one I use has about 12 of the SB sites. These were chosen because they are the ones that show up in Google Webmaster Tools for my sites, so I know Google is finding them.
                              Would you mind sharing the 12 sites that you have seen backlinks show up for?

                              Thanks,
                              Patrick
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                              • Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

                                Would you mind sharing the 12 sites that you have seen backlinks show up for?

                                Thanks,
                                Patrick
                                I'll say this - the most consistent and strongest links have been coming from Blinklist, Jumptags, Mixx, Healthranker, Connotea, Folkd, and Technorati.

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                                  Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                                  I'll say this - the most consistent and strongest links have been coming from Blinklist, Jumptags, Mixx, Healthranker, Connotea, Folkd, and Technorati.

                                  Mark
                                  Hey Mark, I notice the big difference between my approach and yours is
                                  that you prefer to go about your backlinks differently, which many would
                                  consider "easier" than article marketing.

                                  You should consider JVing with me on a report that I could offer my
                                  course customers.

                                  Let's help these people make more money!

                                  Talk to me... you know my email.

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                                  • Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

                                    Hey Mark, I notice the big difference between my approach and yours is
                                    that you prefer to go about your backlinks differently, which many would
                                    consider "easier" than article marketing.

                                    You should consider JVing with me on a report that I could offer my
                                    course customers.

                                    Let's help these people make more money!

                                    Talk to me... you know my email.

                                    - John
                                    Hey John,

                                    Fantastic idea!

                                    I'd actually bought your course (and written the review!), and after successfully implementing your plan, applied some of my "Advanced Ninja" tactics (lol!), and found I was able to take an already solid plan and inject it with some 'steroids'!

                                    I'll send you an email and we'll see if we can give your customers some "turbo-charging"!

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                            • Profile picture of the author lonniewa2
                              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                              Good point, shoulda mentioned. Yes, for SocialBot, I have 3 different profiles. The main one I use has about 12 of the SB sites. These were chosen because they are the ones that show up in Google Webmaster Tools for my sites, so I know Google is finding them.

                              In terms of RSSBot, I submit my initial feeds to all. FWIW, I don't think submitting your RSS feed to too many RSS directories is what would have caused your site to get 'buried'.

                              Mark
                              So basically you have a main profile that you use with your money sites or focus hubs?

                              So I am guessing that you use this one account for all your websites?
                              I am going to assume that you use the same keyword for each directory which if the home page would be your main keyword?
                              I am also going to assume that the other profiles are used to market your support websites or your blog farm or linkwheel?

                              Sorry for being so specific in my questions but I think that these questions will benefit a lot of people.

                              thanks,
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                            • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
                              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                              Good point, shoulda mentioned. Yes, for SocialBot, I have 3 different profiles. The main one I use has about 12 of the SB sites. These were chosen because they are the ones that show up in Google Webmaster Tools for my sites, so I know Google is finding them.

                              In terms of RSSBot, I submit my initial feeds to all. FWIW, I don't think submitting your RSS feed to too many RSS directories is what would have caused your site to get 'buried'.

                              Mark
                              Hello Mark,

                              1. For SB (a) Are we suppose to have a different onlywire account for each websites?
                              (b) How does having different account names/emails setup with SB sites affects google SERP?

                              2. As regards to xfactors template, you said it depends on the niche you are targetting that implies the type of template you use i.e adsense product niches for static site and adsense information niches for blogging. I hardly see high CPC keywords for product niches even though it has high searches per month and low competitions.What is your view to this point?

                              3. How do you manage different names, passowords with different emails and different accounts to google adsense, SB, webmasters etc for all the sites you have developed?


                              You have always been a greate resource for me....most especially doing it without requesting for a penny. (Guess what, I do pray for you @ this ramadan period )
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                              • Profile picture of the author pjlyons1uk
                                Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele View Post


                                3. How do you manage different names, passowords with different emails and different accounts to google adsense, SB, webmasters etc for all the sites you have developed?
                                Can't answer the other points though for this one I use roboform which can be googled.

                                It is a purchased tool however it does have a trial period giving unlimited profiles saved and auto form filler (helpful if using Angelas backlink packages etc)

                                After the trial period it drops down to 10 logins&passwords until you buy it.

                                Hope this helps

                                Pete
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                              • Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele View Post

                                Hello Mark,

                                1. For SB (a) Are we suppose to have a different onlywire account for each websites?
                                (b) How does having different account names/emails setup with SB sites affects google SERP?

                                2. As regards to xfactors template, you said it depends on the niche you are targetting that implies the type of template you use i.e adsense product niches for static site and adsense information niches for blogging. I hardly see high CPC keywords for product niches even though it has high searches per month and low competitions.What is your view to this point?

                                3. How do you manage different names, passowords with different emails and different accounts to google adsense, SB, webmasters etc for all the sites you have developed?


                                You have always been a greate resource for me....most especially doing it without requesting for a penny. (Guess what, I do pray for you @ this ramadan period )
                                Thanks for the kind words, glad this is helpful for you.

                                For Onlywire, I just use a single set of accounts. That said, I use Big Mike's SocialBot - a terrific program btw - with a few different profiles.

                                Problem with multiple accounts is that some services won't take the bookmark if they already have it, such as Mixx.

                                Generally though, I SB everything to just a couple of different accounts.

                                As for CPC's or more accurately EPC's (Earnings Per Click), product keywords are usually fairly low. I don't want to speak for Xfactor, but I know in his thread he talks about it.

                                My general philosophy is to go for higher-paying clicks even though it may take more effort. That said, I also go to great lengths with my keyword research to make sure I can find keyword/phrases that I can realistically rank for.

                                BTW, Roboform is a very good tool as Pete points out.

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                                • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
                                  Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                                  Thanks for the kind words, glad this is helpful for you.

                                  For Onlywire, I just use a single set of accounts. That said, I use Big Mike's SocialBot - a terrific program btw - with a few different profiles.

                                  Problem with multiple accounts is that some services won't take the bookmark if they already have it, such as Mixx.

                                  Generally though, I SB everything to just a couple of different accounts.

                                  As for CPC's or more accurately EPC's (Earnings Per Click), product keywords are usually fairly low. I don't want to speak for Xfactor, but I know in his thread he talks about it.

                                  My general philosophy is to go for higher-paying clicks even though it may take more effort. That said, I also go to great lengths with my keyword research to make sure I can find keyword/phrases that I can realistically rank for.

                                  BTW, Roboform is a very good tool as Pete points out.

                                  Mark
                                  Hello Mark & Pete,

                                  Find the info useful

                                  Thanks alot...

                                  Ola
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                              • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
                                Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele View Post

                                Hello Mark,

                                2. As regards to xfactors template, you said it depends on the niche you are targetting that implies the type of template you use i.e adsense product niches for static site and adsense information niches for blogging. I hardly see high CPC keywords for product niches even though it has high searches per month and low competitions.What is your view to this point?
                                )
                                One thing I've noticed with the product oriented sites is that your click through rates are usually enormously higher, 50%-80% as opposed to 3%-8%, so lower CPC keywords still pay off.
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    • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
      Originally Posted by visit_faraz View Post

      Hi,
      I have got started with this adsense thing and I think I have followed the instructions very carefully.
      I found the high cpc keywords( its around $6), built a site around it and the site is now ranked on the first page of google.

      I am even getting a decent clickthrough, but the problem is that I am getting paid less than 20 cents per click.

      Could you please help me out and tell me how to get a decent pay from those clicks.
      what am I doing wrong.
      am i smart priced or something. my adsense account is a fairly new one.

      I have even started a new thread for getting some help, but no one replied.
      here's the post in case, you want to answer there---> http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...per-click.html

      waiting eagerly for your reply.

      regards,
      faraz
      You might also try searching your keyword at spyfu.com. This will give you a bunch of useful information. In particular you can see the minimum adsense bid for the term. I am new to the adsense game, but in my limited experience so far, it is pretty accurate and you can expect your clicks to bring at least ~50% of what spyfu tells you is the minimum.

      Good luck to you,
      Patrick
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      • Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

        You might also try searching your keyword at spyfu.com. This will give you a bunch of useful information. In particular you can see the minimum adsense bid for the term. I am new to the adsense game, but in my limited experience so far, it is pretty accurate and you can expect your clicks to bring at least ~50% of what spyfu tells you is the minimum.

        Good luck to you,
        Patrick
        Thanks for that Patrick. I spend a lot of time on SpyFu, and I think your estimate is pretty good.

        I did a thread on this a few months back:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ords-cpcs.html

        Might help to understand the differential in Adsense EPC (Earnings Per Click) info.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Just thought I'd give an update. A few of my sites have finally indexed. Still need to wait for things to bounce around though.

    I had a spread sheet of potential keywords that I was going to go after in the future. I was going through them today and noticed some guy already had a site up lol. I think he was inspired by Xfactor, even though he just has on static page. I've seen him for a lot of different terms I've been searching. The worst part is that he's ranking in the top 10 with no keywords.

    I decided to buy up a bunch of domains now to make sure I'm atleast in control of things. Even putting up a basic lander and than optimizing them when I have the time.
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    Hi Mark,
    If you are running 100 websites, what type of tool do you use to keep track of everything.
    Thanks,
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    Mark,

    fantastic thread.

    quick question...

    what is the ideal number of searches to base your site on?

    for example, if I use the google keyword tool and I see that the term is searched for 1,000 times with a setting of "exact" in the keyword tool... and the competition of the keyword on google.com is less than 10,000 in quotes.

    is this a good keyword to target in your opinion?
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    • Originally Posted by rnjonjo View Post

      Mark,

      fantastic thread.

      quick question...

      what is the ideal number of searches to base your site on?

      for example, if I use the google keyword tool and I see that the term is searched for 1,000 times with a setting of "exact" in the keyword tool... and the competition of the keyword on google.com is less than 10,000 in quotes.

      is this a good keyword to target in your opinion?
      Thanks for the kind words

      My "ideal" number of searches would be 1 million. Per day or month, I'll take either. Of course, that's if there's also little in the way of stiff competition.

      This is from my original post:

      My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes).

      Realistically, I want search volume over 100/day and competition under 20k.

      Hope that helps~

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    Wow !! thank for share with us.
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  • Profile picture of the author freezzo
    I just confirmed those numbers and they are correct, although the term could go two ways depending how its interpreted. Not sure if that effects it.
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    • Originally Posted by freezzo View Post

      I just confirmed those numbers and they are correct, although the term could go two ways depending how its interpreted. Not sure if that effects it.
      If you find a keyword phrase with 10k searches/day that you can rank on Page 1 for, you've found a true jackpot.

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  • Profile picture of the author freezzo
    isn't 25k websites a lot to compete against?
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    • Originally Posted by freezzo View Post

      isn't 25k websites a lot to compete against?
      Depends on what you did to get that. If you came up with that # by doing an "exact search", that's in the range that would be considered easy-to-moderate.

      Of course that's extremely generalized. If the top sites are all authority sites with high pagerank, backlinks, etc., than it doesn't matter if it's 25k or 10, you aren't going to displace them.

      Always, always, always, look at the top sites individually. If anything below #3 looks assailable, you're in good shape.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I have another update, not really much to report though.

    My original 5 static sites are all indexed (finally!) Four of them are currently in the back pages of Google and just waiting for them to make a move. One of the sites is at position 11, so hopefully it'll be pushing onto the front page soon.

    For some reason the new sites I picked up are indexing much faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author W2L
    Nice thread. Ive done PPC a few times before but always end up hitting the wall when it comes to Quality Score and my number of impressions go down quite fast too so I can't even get to do proper keyword replacement because my campaigns die pretty fast.... Guess I'll give it another go .. trial and error.....
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  • Profile picture of the author bh_afficionado
    If you have a good site. A good site is composed of useful and unique contents, properly search keywords, unique design, high PR, and lots traffic everyday can help you earn $200 everyday.

    And oh by the way having a lot of readers and subscribers can help too
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    • Profile picture of the author XFactor
      Originally Posted by ipenema View Post

      I do that but I deflect that traffic to my sites that have higher value clicks. When they come to my site I tell them "Hey, you were looking for this but I also found this on another site."
      Why would you complicate the process by doing this?

      Step 1: Get people to site.
      Step 2: Get people to click.

      Done.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I'm starting to get click throughs now. Not a whole lot, but definitely some progress in the right direction. I'm a little disappointed at the amount I'm getting per click. Basically yesterday I had 4.5 cents, 4.5 cents and 7 cent clicks.

    I'm not sure if this is the type of the niches or just that the sites are new. I hoping it's just the fact that the sites are new.

    I went to spyfu and calculated 50% of the lowest click cost, which is much higher.
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    • Profile picture of the author lonniewa2
      Ok mark my last questions might have been a little to much and specific. I have one last question though.

      The only other thing I did different with this other website is that I bookmark with socialbot and I did it only to 11 directories but you said that you bookmark at 12 directories so I am trying not to make the same mistake while trying to get your type of results.

      Did you use a different IP for each bookmark?
      Did you do them in one day or spread them out?

      thanks,
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      • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
        Is anyone else having trouble with BlueSense? All of my articles have around the same length, are completely unique and have good keyword densities. But, regardless of this, the ads only show up on about half of my pages. Sometimes I'll hit refresh on a particular page and it will go from having ads to no ads at all and then sometimes a page that barely ever produces ads sometimes still will produce a couple blocks of ads. Only a few of the pages will always produce all ad blocks.

        This is happening to all of my 3 sites dedicated to AdSense. I even installed All-in-One SEO to help the crawlers recognize the content of my pages but it still hasn't helped much. All keywords I've optimized the pages for have high CPC so I know it isn't a lack of advertisers, either.

        Any suggestions?
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        • Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

          Is anyone else having trouble with BlueSense? All of my articles have around the same length, are completely unique and have good keyword densities. But, regardless of this, the ads only show up on about half of my pages. Sometimes I'll hit refresh on a particular page and it will go from having ads to no ads at all and then sometimes a page that barely ever produces ads sometimes still will produce a couple blocks of ads. Only a few of the pages will always produce all ad blocks.

          This is happening to all of my 3 sites dedicated to AdSense. I even installed All-in-One SEO to help the crawlers recognize the content of my pages but it still hasn't helped much. All keywords I've optimized the pages for have high CPC so I know it isn't a lack of advertisers, either.

          Any suggestions?
          Hey Jake,

          Probably a <div> tag from copying & pasting. Sending you a PM.

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      • Originally Posted by lonniewa2 View Post

        Ok mark my last questions might have been a little to much and specific. I have one last question though.

        The only other thing I did different with this other website is that I bookmark with socialbot and I did it only to 11 directories but you said that you bookmark at 12 directories so I am trying not to make the same mistake while trying to get your type of results.

        Did you use a different IP for each bookmark?
        Did you do them in one day or spread them out?

        thanks,
        Hey Lonnie,

        Sorry I missed your earlier post.

        Here's the thing - where you rank is determined by 4 things:

        Keyword/phrase
        "competition" - specifically the subset of the search database that 'qualifies' for that keyword/phrase
        Page value (onpage SEO) relative to that keyword/phrase
        "Total Backlink Value" for that page

        ("Total Backlink Value" = number of backlinks x strength of each backlink. Explained in more detail here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...backlinks.html )

        Assuming your keyword/phrase isn't "too" competitive, and assuming you've fully optimized your onpage factors, then it all comes down to "Total Backlink Value".

        Assuming all other factors are more-or-less equal, pages will appear in the SERPS in order of "Total Backlink Value". Now they won't be equal, but as a relative thing, that holds.

        Soooo, raise your "Total Backlink Value" higher than that of those in the top spots, and you'll take those top spots. That's what 'ranking' is all about.

        What I've layed out is simply the system and techniques that I use. Whether you're bookmarking from different IP's, etc., is in some ways splitting hairs. Vary your backlinking - that's why I use Onlywire, SocialBot, Unique Article Wizard, Comment Kahuna, Ezinearticles, Web 2.0 sites, etc.

        For the keyword/phrases I generally target, I find if I've done my homework in my keyword research, a few dozen SB's, a few runs of Comment Kahuna and UAW, plus 5-50 EZA submissions will give me one (or more) of the top 3 spots.

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    • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      I'm starting to get click throughs now. Not a whole lot, but definitely some progress in the right direction. I'm a little disappointed at the amount I'm getting per click. Basically yesterday I had 4.5 cents, 4.5 cents and 7 cent clicks.

      I'm not sure if this is the type of the niches or just that the sites are new. I hoping it's just the fact that the sites are new.

      I went to spyfu and calculated 50% of the lowest click cost, which is much higher.
      Hey Stallion,

      This might help you understand it, from a post I did a few months back:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ords-cpcs.html

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  • Profile picture of the author masterbis
    Oh my Good? :O Why didn't I find this forum sooner? InternetMarketer99, u manage to explain in simple way, even newbie like me have no problem to digest. I am starting my own endeavor now, your trick, adding up my formula. Btw, may I ask you, should we bookmark our page in as many as bookmarking sites out there? Or just pick one or two that most famous? And is there any effect at all, if we submit our particular page to search engine or directories? Or this is simply unnecessary coz they will indexed every pages during crawling? Thank you so much for taking time to answer this, and thanks for the post!
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    • Originally Posted by masterbis View Post

      Oh my Good? :O Why didn't I find this forum sooner? InternetMarketer99, u manage to explain in simple way, even newbie like me have no problem to digest. I am starting my own endeavor now, your trick, adding up my formula. Btw, may I ask you, should we bookmark our page in as many as bookmarking sites out there? Or just pick one or two that most famous? And is there any effect at all, if we submit our particular page to search engine or directories? Or this is simply unnecessary coz they will indexed every pages during crawling? Thank you so much for taking time to answer this, and thanks for the post!
      Thanks for the kind words - what you'll find is that much of this stuff isn't really too hard to understand, it's just an awful lot of information to digest.

      For SB (Social Bookmarking) sites, I would suggest either Onlywire ($2.99/month) or SocialBot (appx. $25) if you can afford it. Then use either of those programs to submit to 8-12 of the most popular sites. Bookmark each page on your site individually, and do them over some time, for instance one page every couple of days.

      As far as submitting to search engines, that's unnecessary.

      Keep up your positive attitude, keep reading and asking questions, and most importantly, keep *doing*. Don't get discouraged if you don't see great results and thousands of dollars right away. The key is steady, consistent progress.

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  • Profile picture of the author kumkum
    I think it would be very good to make a JV between two adsense master here...
    I am learning from all of your post .
    half from john-xfactor and half from mark

    will wait for a good news.
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  • Profile picture of the author ManieE
    Thanks for the information and sharing the Adsense Theme, very nice! You gave me a few good ideas for a site I am planning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaysmyne
    I've been following this thread and needless to say I signed up with nichebot seeing as they had the $1 trial so far its amazing what I've found for certain keywords.

    I am wondering... it looks as if these keywords can be easily tackled not by article marketing - although a good weapon to use - but by using Angela and Paul's backlink packets. I happen to have months and months of packets so maybe I should go to my first packet and just cycle through them... but I'm not sure if this will be effective in getting me ranked and its very repetitive.

    I guess it will be based on my mood. IF I am feeling energetic and creative, I will write. If I feel bored with writing and have writers block Angela and Paul's packets might be a good back up.

    Anywhos just wanted to say that. XFactor's product is very good too. It has sound solid info that appears to work - right now I'm following the guide to the letter to see what kind of results I get.

    At this point I think I'm rambling (Damn All Nighters) ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Ken
    Yahooo!!! This is a very super post. Why didn't you make a WSO out of it and sell it?! Thanks a bunch, for this. It will help a whole lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Hey Internetmarketer99,

    Do you have any example website you can show us.

    I'm particularly interested in how you've laid the pages, posts etc, and how you link them together.

    By looking at a dummy or example website it might clear up any confusion anyone has, and could reduce repetitive questions.I know it could be asking for too much but I think it could be very helpful.

    Also, I've just installed bluesense but I'm only getting ads on the left hand side although I have changed my Adsense ID as mentioned. Anyone know whats going on with this?

    Gurpreet
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    • Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

      Hey Internetmarketer99,

      Do you have any example website you can show us.

      I'm particularly interested in how you've laid the pages, posts etc, and how you link them together.

      By looking at a dummy or example website it might clear up any confusion anyone has, and could reduce repetitive questions.I know it could be asking for too much but I think it could be very helpful.

      Also, I've just installed bluesense but I'm only getting ads on the left hand side although I have changed my Adsense ID as mentioned. Anyone know whats going on with this?

      Gurpreet
      Hey Gurpreet,

      I don't have any 'dummy' websites, though I'm thinking of putting one together since a lot of people have been asking that.

      In terms of the theme, it sounds like a post/page formatting problem, most likely <div> tags. Are you copying or cutting & pasting your text into WP? You want to be careful since you are often bringing in document formatting without realizing it. Go into your post or page, click the HTML tab, and look carefully to see if there is any formatting.

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  • Profile picture of the author kumkum
    mm I don't know it's appropriate if i ask here but , this still about adense and wordpress , that I followed mark's way.
    In earlier post thread , It was mentioned that it's better to create Pages than posting a content to a Post.

    What I want to ask is, can we post several content to a targeted page..

    For example
    www.123.com

    www.123.com/pagea/

    When I want to post related keyword groups to that pages , Where should i made a post..

    I can only make new posting in Category.. but not showed in my targeted Page
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Hey Mark,

    Just got the ads to appear. My website is displaying five ads blocks with bluesense. (I got the ad format from the DoshDosh website). I'm sure on any one page you are only allowed to show three ad blocks if I'm not mistaken.

    I have ads in the following places.

    - On the left hand menu
    - On the navigation menu at the top
    - below each post
    - above each post
    - another on the right sidebar

    I think I may need to remove my adsense code from two of these areas. Which would you recommend if you don't mind me asking?

    Gurpreet
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    • Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

      Hey Mark,

      Just got the ads to appear. My website is displaying five ads blocks with bluesense. (I got the ad format from the DoshDosh website). I'm sure on any one page you are only allowed to show three ad blocks if I'm not mistaken.

      I have ads in the following places.

      - On the left hand menu
      - On the navigation menu at the top
      - below each post
      - above each post
      - another on the right sidebar

      I think I may need to remove my adsense code from two of these areas. Which would you recommend if you don't mind me asking?

      Gurpreet
      Hey Gurpreet,

      If you're using the theme "out of the box" you're ok.

      Google allows 3 "adblocks" PLUS 3 "text link ads" PLUS 2 "search box ads" on any given page:

      https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...en&answer=9735

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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Awesome.

    Just for anyone else that may have had trouble getting the ads to display on bluesense, you need to go into your adsense account and create the ads (instructions are on the doshdosh website). Then go into your theme editor and replace the code in the following areas

    • Single_bottom_adverts.php
    • Single_top_adverts.php
    • Header_adverts.php
    • Sidebar.php
    • menu.php
    Hope this helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Here's another update guys.

    I'm currently 21 sites invested now. (started with 5 and impulse buy of 16 more later).

    I just had a bunch of sites get indexed today.

    Currently 20 of the 21 sites are indexed.

    Highlights:

    8100 searches per month site indexed at position 8, with one backlink.
    6600 searches per month site indexed at position 7, with one backlink.
    Another 8100 searches per month site indexed at position 8, with one backlink.

    An interesting thing I noticed was the sites that had just the keyword as the domain (.com,.net or .org) indexed within the top 20. I think only one of them didn't. The other ones that added in an extra word like shop or new or something are stuck in the back pages of Google.

    Now I just need to see if these pages start turning a profit since most of these pages just indexed today.
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    • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      Here's another update guys.

      I'm currently 21 sites invested now. (started with 5 and impulse buy of 16 more later).

      I just had a bunch of sites get indexed today.

      Currently 20 of the 21 sites are indexed.

      Highlights:

      8100 searches per month site indexed at position 8, with one backlink.
      6600 searches per month site indexed at position 7, with one backlink.
      Another 8100 searches per month site indexed at position 8, with one backlink.

      An interesting thing I noticed was the sites that had just the keyword as the domain (.com,.net or .org) indexed within the top 20. I think only one of them didn't. The other ones that added in an extra word like shop or new or something are stuck in the back pages of Google.

      Now I just need to see if these pages start turning a profit since most of these pages just indexed today.
      Stallion, you are the MAN!

      That's terrific, really. Talk about taking "massive action"!

      If you've went for the high-EPC niches, and with those ranges of search volume, 20+ sites is easily enough to hit 6 figures - if you've done your keyword research & competition research well, and simply push each one forward a little bit each day or so.

      Once you do the initial 'push' to get onto Page 1, much of the ongoing work is 'maintenance' - submitting a new article every few days, Social Bookmarking, adding some posts, etc.

      Let us know how the ranking goes.

      BTW, great testament to the power of keyword domains. A 'exact match' domain name can be extremely potent - providing you're targeting that keyword phrase, of course...:rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Hey Thanks for the reply. I guess in the future I'll have to get better at researching what I should be getting for clicks. I noticed one of the sites is getting about 60 cents per click (on average), while others are getting like 9 cents.

    I'll be definitely be doing a little bit more research on the clicks for the next batch of domains I buy. Do you do the spyfu thing, where you take 50% of the lowest click value? I don't know much about adsense, so this is all sort of new to me. It took me over a year to get my first $100 check lol.
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  • Hey Stallion,

    If you're using BlueSense or a similar layout, keep in mind that you'll be displaying ads that run the full range for the Adwords keyword auction, from highest bid to lowest. While the placement is such that the 'top' ads are the most clicked, you do get some clicks on the lower-EPC ads.

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  • Profile picture of the author pacian
    Is it possible to make money with photoblogs or photoblogs with content?


    [QUOTE=internetmarketer99;1000741]How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

    Note: I was inspired to do this post largely by Xfactor's monsterously generous threads.

    I've been doing Adsense for a looong time. It's not my only source of revenue, or my biggest. But it IS my favorite (more on that below).

    I see a lot of bad information, bad advice, mis-information. The plain truth is that Adsense can be a terrific way to make money, that it can generate substantial income, and that it isn't really all that hard to do - if you do it 'right'.
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    • Originally Posted by pacian View Post

      Is it possible to make money with photoblogs or photoblogs with content?
      Sure, but it might be harder to rank without keyword content and might require a somewhat different ranking strategy.

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      • Profile picture of the author pacian
        Mark,

        I am extremely new to this whole world. I'm recently handicapped (18 months ago) so I'm looking to finally enter the world again. My therapist suggested the Internet. I'm was a freelance photographer and continue to travel and decided to create a photoblog. If you look at my site (worldphoto360dotcom) you'll see the beginnings of my efforts.

        I'd like to $100 /day w/adsense. I realize i don't have the proper theme and I am somewhat limited to keywords, but I also know there are many ways to skin a cat.

        If you could have a peek at my site and provide suggestions, I would be eternally grateful. I have over 11,000 images to choose from and the subject matters in countless.

        Just be straight and honest from themes changes and ad placement to adding content. I'll all ears.

        thanks.

        Richard

        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Sure, but it might be harder to rank without keyword content and might require a somewhat different ranking strategy.

        Mark
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      • Profile picture of the author pacian
        Can I take you up on your $147 a site offer?

        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Sure, but it might be harder to rank without keyword content and might require a somewhat different ranking strategy.

        Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottR
    Mark and Xfactor, thanks to both of you for sharing all this great info. I'd concur that the "keyword.com," "keyword.net," and "keyword.org" domains are incredibly powerful tools to rank almost instantly for those specific keywords, usually on the first page if the competition is reasonable. I stumbled onto this about 2 years ago with a .org domain that moved onto page one for a pretty high competition fitness term with a single backlink from one of my other sites. It's stayed in second place ever since without much work (behind the ".net"), so these sites can have staying power.

    I've thrown up about 10 new sites following Xfactor's model, and the first 2 sites that I linked to have already appeared in the top 10 for their main keyword, and they've received adsense clicks, all within about 4-5 days of being launched. I registered a half dozen or so additional domains over the weekend to try out Mark's model too, in order to compare the two systems and see which works best for me.

    I did run a quick test with Xfactor's template on one of my older financial-themed sites (more along the lines of Mark's model, only from 3 years ago, before I had any handle on keyword research). The CTR absolutely tanked, from a respectable level to almost no clicks at all. As soon as I restored my old template, the CTR went back to where it was. But with the product-themed sites X-factor recommends building, this same theme has been stellar. I still want to tweak it and test it on a similar high CPC site to see if I can get it to work, but these guys are both right - it's all about testing and giving the visitor the type of site they "expect" to see for a certain search term. Xfactor's site looks like the type of store an ecommerce-minded visitor expects to see, and it works great for this type of visitor.

    One last thought on the whole Adsense TOS issue and these templates, specifically having an ad unit directly under a headline. I'm playing it safe and putting exactly one line of non-salesy text beneath the headline, and I think this is perfectly OK to do. In fact, there is a very similar example site listed on the adsense site itself under the "resources" tab and "optimization tips" link, in which they have simply a headline, a "by" line, and then a large ad block. As long as your title doesn't imply that the visitor should click on or "choose from" one of the links below, you should be fine.

    Thanks again guys.
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      great thread. very informative. what is the easiest and/or quickest way to determine which page your site is on in google without going through all of the pages manually?
      thank you.
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    • Originally Posted by ScottR View Post


      I did run a quick test with Xfactor's template on one of my older financial-themed sites (more along the lines of Mark's model, only from 3 years ago, before I had any handle on keyword research). The CTR absolutely tanked, from a respectable level to almost no clicks at all. As soon as I restored my old template, the CTR went back to where it was. But with the product-themed sites X-factor recommends building, this same theme has been stellar. I still want to tweak it and test it on a similar high CPC site to see if I can get it to work, but these guys are both right - it's all about testing and giving the visitor the type of site they "expect" to see for a certain search term. Xfactor's site looks like the type of store an ecommerce-minded visitor expects to see, and it works great for this type of visitor.
      Hey Scott,

      You make a very important point. Different types of sites require different considerations.

      What I do is try to create a "mental profile" of the person doing the search that would bring up one of my sites. For example, an informational site on some credit niche, that 'typical' person might looking to find out how to fix their credit, for instance. They're looking for answers to questions, etc. BlueSense has a 'look & feel' that would give them a sense that they clicked on the 'right' link and ended up on a site that is a good match for what they were hoping to find.

      On the other hand, for a 'product-centric' site, that person might be someone interested in or looking to buy a specific product. Landing on an "Xfactor-style" site would give them a much better feel for what they're looking for - less 'crowded', less information, and bold links that grab their attention with headlines that directly call to them.

      Originally Posted by ScottR View Post


      One last thought on the whole Adsense TOS issue and these templates, specifically having an ad unit directly under a headline. I'm playing it safe and putting exactly one line of non-salesy text beneath the headline, and I think this is perfectly OK to do. In fact, there is a very similar example site listed on the adsense site itself under the "resources" tab and "optimization tips" link, in which they have simply a headline, a "by" line, and then a large ad block. As long as your title doesn't imply that the visitor should click on or "choose from" one of the links below, you should be fine.

      Thanks again guys.
      Another great point. "Safe" is usually better than "sorry", and I've not noticed much drop in CTR when I've added a subtle line of smaller text right below the headline.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shrinivas
    Hi,

    This information is priceless. Thanks to all those who have contributed and made this thread a wonderful resource. I have a question for the OP.

    Would you recommend a reseller hosting account to host all sites? How do you do it?
    Which one of the following is good to follow this business model

    1) 1 reseller account for all sites (fixed monthy fee and unlimited sites)
    2) 1 shared hosting for 1 site (very expensive bcos 10 sites=10times monthy fee)
    3) 1 shared hosting for 1 site and a couple of addon sites (very economical but it's still shared hosting)
    4) 1 shared hosting and all other subodomains (same as #3)

    Any help is appreciated....
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    • Originally Posted by Shrinivas View Post

      Hi,

      This information is priceless. Thanks to all those who have contributed and made this thread a wonderful resource. I have a question for the OP.

      Would you recommend a reseller hosting account to host all sites? How do you do it?
      Which one of the following is good to follow this business model

      1) 1 reseller account for all sites (fixed monthy fee and unlimited sites)
      2) 1 shared hosting for 1 site (very expensive bcos 10 sites=10times monthy fee)
      3) 1 shared hosting for 1 site and a couple of addon sites (very economical but it's still shared hosting)
      4) 1 shared hosting and all other subodomains (same as #3)

      Any help is appreciated....
      Hi Shrinivas,

      Thanks for the kind words.

      First, my strong advice would be to stay from subdomains. They will impact all the other sites on the TLD, and forget about ever flipping them individually.

      Add-on domains are fine, that's just an internal hosting configuration. You can still treat them as, and eventually move or flip them as individual domains.

      I have a dedicated server and two VPS's for my sites, though I still maintain some 'regular' shared hosting accounts.

      The benefits of a reseller account are if you decide to flip one of the sites, it's easier and cleaner than having a single basic account or add-on domains.

      Much will depend on how many sites you have, their traffic levels, etc.

      My 'general' advice would be to start with a basic reseller account, which is usually only a bit more than a basic shared account, and set up each site individually.

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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Okay, after being patient enough to read through all six pages of this wonderful and informative thread, I have questions:

    1. Would using the BlueSense theme or the Ad Flex theme be a good alternative to XFactor's template? Wordpress will always be my platform of choice simply because I can't invest the cash ATM to get the Wordpress version of XFactor's template, nor can I make it myself.

    2. About Page Rank: In the top ten results, what is the page rank that you should limit yourself to before trying to get on the first page? Like if the competiting sites have higher than a certain PR, don't do it and if they are lower than a certain PR go for it? Hope that wasn't confusing.

    3. Pretty much a continuation of question 1: Would XFactor's method work with BlueSense/Ad Flex?
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    • Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Okay, after being patient enough to read through all six pages of this wonderful and informative thread, I have questions:

      1. Would using the BlueSense theme or the Ad Flex theme be a good alternative to XFactor's template? Wordpress will always be my platform of choice simply because I can't invest the cash ATM to get the Wordpress version of XFactor's template, nor can I make it myself.

      2. About Page Rank: In the top ten results, what is the page rank that you should limit yourself to before trying to get on the first page? Like if the competiting sites have higher than a certain PR, don't do it and if they are lower than a certain PR go for it? Hope that wasn't confusing.

      3. Pretty much a continuation of question 1: Would XFactor's method work with BlueSense/Ad Flex?
      Hey Biggy,

      For layout/theme, etc., it should be based on the type of site. Different focuses or niches will see better or worse CTR's for the same layout.

      Here's what I wrote in answer to a similar question:

      "Different types of sites require different considerations.

      What I do is try to create a "mental profile" of the person doing the search that would bring up one of my sites. For example, an informational site on some credit niche, that 'typical' person might looking to find out how to fix their credit, for instance. They're looking for answers to questions, etc. BlueSense has a 'look & feel' that would give them a sense that they clicked on the 'right' link and ended up on a site that is a good match for what they were hoping to find.

      On the other hand, for a 'product-centric' site, that person might be someone interested in or looking to buy a specific product. Landing on an "Xfactor-style" site would give them a much better feel for what they're looking for - less 'crowded', less information, and bold links that grab their attention with headlines that directly call to them."

      In terms of Pagerank, I only take that into account as part of my assessment, along with backlinks. A high-PR site may have relatively week backlinking (for instance, achieving much of it's Pagerank from it's 'parent' page). Generally speaking though, if sites below the top 3 are PR4 or better, I'll move on. The operative word: "generally speaking".

      Hope that helps,

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      • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        In terms of Pagerank, I only take that into account as part of my assessment, along with backlinks. A high-PR site may have relatively week backlinking (for instance, achieving much of it's Pagerank from it's 'parent' page). Generally speaking though, if sites below the top 3 are PR4 or better, I'll move on. The operative word: "generally speaking".

        Hope that helps,

        Mark
        Okay, what you said about the layout and everything makes perfect sense. AdFlex should work. BlueSense just looked cluttered IMO.

        But when you say "move on", do you mean move on to the next niche or move on with building the site?

        And I see you only look at the top 3 sites. If THOSE have too high of a PR you don't mess with it?
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        • Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

          Okay, what you said about the layout and everything makes perfect sense. AdFlex should work. BlueSense just looked cluttered IMO.

          But when you say "move on", do you mean move on to the next niche or move on with building the site?

          And I see you only look at the top 3 sites. If THOSE have too high of a PR you don't mess with it?
          Hey Biggy,

          When I said "move on" I meant "move on to the next niche". There are just too many great opportunities out there.

          As for the "top 3", my own personal technique is when I come across a keyword/phrase that meets all my other criteria, I enter the phrase and look right at #4. If it's attainable, it's worth moving forward. # 4 isn't, than neither are the 'top 3', and it's "move on" time.

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          • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            Hey Biggy,

            When I said "move on" I meant "move on to the next niche". There are just too many great opportunities out there.

            As for the "top 3", my own personal technique is when I come across a keyword/phrase that meets all my other criteria, I enter the phrase and look right at #4. If it's attainable, it's worth moving forward. # 4 isn't, than neither are the 'top 3', and it's "move on" time.

            Mark
            Makes PERFECT sense. Thanks for your answer, dawg.
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  • Profile picture of the author pacian
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    I am extremely new to this whole world. I'm recently handicapped (18 months ago) so I'm looking to finally enter the world again. My therapist suggested the Internet. I'm was a freelance photographer and continue to travel and decided to create a photoblog. If you look at my site (worldphoto360dotcom) you'll see the beginnings of my efforts.

    I'd like to $100 /day w/adsense. I realize i don't have the proper theme and I am somewhat limited to keywords, but I also know there are many ways to skin a cat.

    If you could have a peek at my site and provide suggestions, I would be eternally grateful. I have over 11,000 images to choose from and the subject matters in countless.

    Just be straight and honest from themes changes and ad placement to adding content. I'll all ears.

    thanks.

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  • Profile picture of the author ScottR
    If you are looking for a good keyword tool, I believe you can get Market Samurai through Ed Dale/30daychallenge for a day or two more for $87 (it's regularly around $150). I got it when it first launched last summer and use it all the time. It's really an incredible tool that just keeps improving. I especially like it for drilling down into the top 10 Google results for any keyword. It breaks the results down and shows you not only the number of links for each level of toolbar pagerank, but it also shows the anchor text breakdown for those links and allows you to browse to those links to see if you can add a link to your own site. This is just incredibly powerful for sites like Mark is proposing where you need some added SEO umph.

    If the $87 is a bit steep for you, a way you could possibly save further is to go in on it with a partner. You get two installations with every purchase, and I know on their support site, the Market Samurai folks state that you can give one to a business partner. I gave my second installation to a business partner of mine a while after I bought it, and they had no problem giving him full email support when he had issues installing Adobe Air on his Mac. They've always been incredibly generous that way.

    Anyhow, it's a great tool for a great price. I recently bought MNF and use it too. I like it because it draws the data faster than MS, but it's still hard to match Market Samurai for drilling down into the top 10 Google results and getting an exact idea of who links to them and who you can easily get to link to you.
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    • Originally Posted by ScottR View Post

      If you are looking for a good keyword tool, I believe you can get Market Samurai through Ed Dale/30daychallenge for a day or two more for $87 (it's regularly around $150). I got it when it first launched last summer and use it all the time. It's really an incredible tool that just keeps improving. I especially like it for drilling down into the top 10 Google results for any keyword. It breaks the results down and shows you not only the number of links for each level of toolbar pagerank, but it also shows the anchor text breakdown for those links and allows you to browse to those links to see if you can add a link to your own site. This is just incredibly powerful for sites like Mark is proposing where you need some added SEO umph.

      If the $87 is a bit steep for you, a way you could possibly save further is to go in on it with a partner. You get two installations with every purchase, and I know on their support site, the Market Samurai folks state that you can give one to a business partner. I gave my second installation to a business partner of mine a while after I bought it, and they had no problem giving him full email support when he had issues installing Adobe Air on his Mac. They've always been incredibly generous that way.

      Anyhow, it's a great tool for a great price. I recently bought MNF and use it too. I like it because it draws the data faster than MS, but it's still hard to match Market Samurai for drilling down into the top 10 Google results and getting an exact idea of who links to them and who you can easily get to link to you.
      Market Samurai is a terrific tool.

      It's worth noting that the 'base' MS keyword research tools, which is what you'd mainly be using it for, are FREE. The only things that stop working after the trial are the "paid" modules. The rest is a free tool.

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      • Profile picture of the author ScottR
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        Market Samurai is a terrific tool.

        It's worth noting that the 'base' MS keyword research tools, which is what you'd mainly be using it for, are FREE. The only things that stop working after the trial are the "paid" modules. The rest is a free tool.

        Mark
        I never really tried the free version, so I don't really know what it includes. Do you know if it includes the "SEO competition" functionality where you can drill down into the top 10 results? Even if not, it's definitely still very helpful and a huge time saver above and beyond searching the Google data manually. The proxy servers built in can also help avoid annoying temporary bans from Google that I do get when I use MNF or do manual searches. It's part of why I run both tools at once - they tend to work well in tandem for me.

        Either way, it's such a huge help. I just wish I had it 3 years ago. The first generation of sites I built then would have been so much more profitable if I'd had access to this type of tool instead of largely trying out keywords through trial and error based on Overture keyword data and not much else.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottR
    From what I can tell, profitmiracle is some sort of system that involves a standard article submitter and using the articles to drive Clickbank affiliate sales. This is very different from Unique Article Wizard and Article Marketing Automation (a similar system that is also sold under other names, including a private branded version sold by Brad Callen and his brother).

    What these systems do is spin and distribute your articles on a network of blogs owned by other people. I think UAW also submits the spun articles to article directories too.

    What is unique about them and pretty cool is their methods of spinning the articles to come up with versions that read pretty darn well. UAW makes you promise not to tell how the spinner works, but that seems to be more about generating a mystique for marketing purposes than anything else. In any case, a promise is a promise, so I won't tell.

    I use them both since they seem to have separate networks of blogs that accept their articles (their might be some overlap in the networks, but I haven't noticed any when I check out the blogs). They both distribute the content for free to any blog owners via their own plugins, so that's how they build the distribution networks.

    The basic idea is that you get three links to place within the text of each article, and since they are spun, they appear as unique content. you can also spin the author names, titles, etc to minimize any footprint. Since they distribute via plug-ins through that access the wordpress interface, they appear as just blog posts containing regular links, again, leaving no footprint for Google to find.

    The only actual footprint I can think of is the three links themselves. In other words, if you were to filter for blogs with content that has exactly three links per article, all to external sites, it might be possible to devalue those links in theory. But for now, it seems to be a pretty cool way of getting a lot of in-context links within unique blog posts from a broad range of IP addresses.
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      Thank you very much for your time. I will work with profitmiracle for awhile and then i will look at investing in Article Wizard.

      thanks again,
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    Just to double check...on your keywording you say go for at least 1500 a month PHRASE search.
    So what would be acceptable EXACT search or BROAD per month to you?

    I was looking at a keyword phrase that had EXACT 480
    BROAD 9,900 PHRASE 720
    So this would NOT be good because it is not at 1500? But it has a pretty large BROAD match. So that is just not considered?

    Also how many keyword phrases do you focus on promoting at one time and do you wait to promote others till the first ones have been indexed?

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    • Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      Just to double check...on your keywording you say go for at least 1500 a month PHRASE search.
      So what would be acceptable EXACT search or BROAD per month to you?

      I was looking at a keyword phrase that had EXACT 480
      BROAD 9,900 PHRASE 720
      So this would NOT be good because it is not at 1500? But it has a pretty large BROAD match. So that is just not considered?

      Also how many keyword phrases do you focus on promoting at one time and do you wait to promote others till the first ones have been indexed?

      Thanks!
      Just replied to your PM.

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  • Profile picture of the author pacian
    was I wrong or did I see a price increase from 147usd to 197usd... I looked at my history and saw 147.. Am I wrong about this IM99
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    • Originally Posted by pacian View Post

      was I wrong or did I see a price increase from 147usd to 197usd... I looked at my history and saw 147.. Am I wrong about this IM99
      Please don't discuss offers in this thread, it's a sure way to have the thread deleted which would be a shame. You can PM me it you like.

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      • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
        Mark,

        I am sure I have seen my question discussed somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Also, it is really more applicable to XFactors methods as it is product centric, but since there isn't actually a live thread discussing it (just reviewing the his product), I thought you may be able provide some insight.

        Anyhow, I am back to keyword research to start some more sites. I have found what looks to be one of the best keywords I have found so far. However, I have a choice between the singular and plural form of the exact keyword domain. I was thinking that the plural would be a good choice since I will then have both the plural and singular keyword in the domain. As is usually the case, the singular form has many more searches.

        I don't want to be yet another victim of analysis paralysis asking silly questions, but I am not accustomed to having choices when digging for domains.

        What are your thoughts on this?

        Thanks,
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        • Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

          Mark,

          I am sure I have seen my question discussed somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Also, it is really more applicable to XFactors methods as it is product centric, but since there isn't actually a live thread discussing it (just reviewing the his product), I thought you may be able provide some insight.

          Anyhow, I am back to keyword research to start some more sites. I have found what looks to be one of the best keywords I have found so far. However, I have a choice between the singular and plural form of the exact keyword domain. I was thinking that the plural would be a good choice since I will then have both the plural and singular keyword in the domain. As is usually the case, the singular form has many more searches.

          I don't want to be yet another victim of analysis paralysis asking silly questions, but I am not accustomed to having choices when digging for domains.

          What are your thoughts on this?

          Thanks,
          Patrick
          Hi Patrick,

          Unfortunately, it's not as obvious as it seems - initially, you may not get ranked for a plural even though you're ranked for a singular, and vice-versa. However, as your overall "total backlink value" goes up, you'll begin to rank for keywords not directly targeted, and singular/plural pair will be some of the first.

          If it were me, I'd always go for the one with the highest search volume unless they were close, then I'd consider 'phrase match' searches.

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          • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            Hi Patrick,

            Unfortunately, it's not as obvious as it seems - initially, you may not get ranked for a plural even though you're ranked for a singular, and vice-versa. However, as your overall "total backlink value" goes up, you'll begin to rank for keywords not directly targeted, and singular/plural pair will be some of the first.

            If it were me, I'd always go for the one with the highest search volume unless they were close, then I'd consider 'phrase match' searches.

            Mark
            Thanks Mark. You confirmed my suspicions. That last sentence is perfect to add to my keyword research tips file.

            Thanks,
            Patrick
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  • Profile picture of the author chrischee
    Great information, niche blog with adsense is also one thing that I'm gonna cover in my blog adwords keyword tool is the easiest to use and target your niche
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    thanks for sharing very very useful
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Thanks Mark for this thread, learned a lot about the conversion.

    I would like to know when should I do the RSS submission, I have searched for these RSS submission site for some time, is there some submission sites you would like to recommend?
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    • Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Thanks Mark for this thread, learned a lot about the conversion.

      I would like to know when should I do the RSS submission, I have searched for these RSS submission site for some time, is there some submission sites you would like to recommend?
      You should begin submitting sites immediately. I use Big Mike's RSSBot (Incansoft) - highly recommended.

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  • Profile picture of the author ScottR
    The funny thing about product niche PPC is that it can be surprisingly decent. So far, I have seen the PPC be slightly above that of the average travel site PPC (somewhere north of half a buck). But the real kicker is the click-through rate, which has been quite a bit higher than for any of my non-product info sites. I think it has to do the the commercial intent of the visitors, which is sky high. And the more mundane the item, the higher the CTR.

    This just makes sense. With a travel site, you get a lot of people that just want to read about the destination. With financial sites, you get a similar amount of people who are looking to educate themselves on the topic. But who is really going to go searching for weed whackers unless they are at least contemplating buying one?

    So the higher CTR can really go a long way towards making up for the lower PPC - which really isn't always that low to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    Mark,

    Very interesting thread. I'm glad I found this. You said on page 2:

    " I create a homepage that incorporates all of my target keyword phrases, usually a 400-500 word page. I then set WP to display that as the home page.

    Each keyword phrase gets it's own page. Beyond that, I add posts regularly, 'rotating' the keyword list."

    Does that mean in your article you'll incorporate the 10 phrases you make pages on (ie vocational school study guide, vocational school financial aid package etc)? Do you create hyperlinks within the article itself to the 10 pages? (I thought you were trying to get the pages themselves ranked for each keyword so you'd do that).

    I have used that prosense theme and find the category pages also get in google. Is there a way to avoid that?

    I know you said your main pages are pages and not posts but aren't pages not included in rss feeds so I was wondering if that is a problem.

    When you make posts rotating the keyword list , do you use same keyword in title as the page you want to promote or are you targetting different keywords to not compete with your pages? PS I'd be interested to see your answer to lilblackdress that you said was sent via pm.

    Debbie
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Thanks Mark for your answer.

    I have another quick question. You said you would rotate the keywords list now and then, I would like to know, how many posts(pages) do you have for each niche site?

    After seeing John and your thread, I could not help setting up numerous niche sites asap! That's why I am interested how many pages do you guys usually have setting up a niche site and leave it there let the adsense grow by itsself.

    Thanks again for your thread.
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    • Originally Posted by arth View Post

      Thanks Mark for your answer.

      I have another quick question. You said you would rotate the keywords list now and then, I would like to know, how many posts(pages) do you have for each niche site?

      After seeing John and your thread, I could not help setting up numerous niche sites asap! That's why I am interested how many pages do you guys usually have setting up a niche site and leave it there let the adsense grow by itsself.

      Thanks again for your thread.
      Hi Arth,

      How many pages will depend. Initially, I won't go to the effort of building a new site unless I have an initial keyword/phrase group of at least 5 or so. Of course, the 'more the merrier' - to a point. I'd say most of my good earners target 6-12 keyword phrases.

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      • Profile picture of the author navi
        I had a quick question, it is regarding the ads placement. I keep reading conflicting reports about the legality of placing the Adsense ad directly below the title, what do you think about it? Do you think this placement is within Google's TOS if the headline does not directly imply that the ads are in some way related to it.

        For example ad placement directly under the title 'Today's Hot Deals' would be against the TOS, but placement under something like 'White Antique Chairs' would be fine?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by navi View Post

          I had a quick question, it is regarding the ads placement. I keep reading conflicting reports about the legality of placing the Adsense ad directly below the title, what do you think about it? Do you think this placement is within Google's TOS if the headline does not directly imply that the ads are in some way related to it.

          For example ad placement directly under the title 'Today's Hot Deals' would be against the TOS, but placement under something like 'White Antique Chairs' would be fine?
          As far as I understand, you may place adsense code below the title as long as the title does not imply the ads are part of the site. That said, your statement above does appear correct.

          Most of my own AdSense sites, as well as the sites I lease out, are built this way and I've had no problems to date.
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          • Profile picture of the author m4ster
            If I'm putting AdSense ad just under the title, I usually write "Advertisement" in light grey between.

            So the code looks like this:

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            • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
              Originally Posted by m4ster View Post

              If I'm putting AdSense ad just under the title, I usually write "Advertisement" in light grey between.

              So the code looks like this:

              Code:
              <FONT COLOR="lightgrey">Advertisements</FONT>
              If you're doing this, you might find you can squeeze a little extra CTR out if you also did the following:

              - Use the words Sponsored Links instead of Advertisements (since for some reason it doesn't twig for many people that sponsored links ARE advertisements)

              - Instead of putting it in text, put it in an image, and increase the letter spacing and shrink down the letter/font height a little

              All of this in my experience makes it less obvious that what is below is in fact advertisements, and makes it less likely that the announcement that they ARE advertisemnts will be so eye catching (of course, making the text grey helps too).

              Alternatively you can just put in a line or two of text above the header and ads, then there's really no need to state that they're advertisements at all.


              Not mega important information but useful for those who are interested in squeezing a little extra CTR from their ads if they choose to (or have to) separate them from the page header.
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    A nice read.... Thanks for the share !
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    really good inspiring helpful post to everyone especially newbies like me. I'll have questions soon but I'll have to get started to have one! Thanks.
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    Great thread, glad I read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I see that this thread has creeped off the front page. I just purchased an additional 20 domains, bringing my total up to 41 for this little project. It's September 15th and I started sometime toward the end of August, start of September on this project lol.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens when some of my sites actually float up the ranks at Google.

    Well, I'm going to go destroy my brain in a near endless amount of content creation for all of these sites. I'll officially be a zombie until the end of the week. WOO!
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    • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
      Mark, do you insert your own meta tags into the content of your static home pages on BlueSense? The homepage is the only page of my sites getting indexed but there's no text underneath it on Google, signifying a description of my sites through the meta tags are non-existant in the BlueSense code. None of my actual article pages seem to be getting indexed, either, even though Google bots have visited my three AdSense site(s) well over a dozen times each.
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      • Originally Posted by JakeDaly View Post

        Mark, do you insert your own meta tags into the content of your static home pages on BlueSense? The homepage is the only page of my sites getting indexed but there's no text underneath it on Google, signifying a description of my sites through the meta tags are non-existant in the BlueSense code. None of my actual article pages seem to be getting indexed, either, even though Google bots have visited my three AdSense site(s) well over a dozen times each.
        Wow, Jake - you just aren't having a good time with this, are you..

        I use All-in-One SEO plugin to manage titles & tags: WordPress › All in One SEO Pack WordPress Plugins

        Sending you a PM...

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    Which tools do you find most effective in NicheBot?
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    • Originally Posted by junior0817 View Post

      Which tools do you find most effective in NicheBot?
      Hi Junior,

      I'm an old-school Wordtracker oldhead, but generally just begin from the main search screen.

      Also, I've been using MicroNicheFinder and Market Samurai increasingly, and finding them to be terrific tools.

      I've been using them in place of NicheBot's various digging tools lately.

      I may scrap my NicheBot subscription since I can do the initial "quick & dirty" volume pass using Wordtracker's free tool, and I'm starting to have a little more faith in Google's numbers for.

      That said, I also dump key phrases - meaning anything I'm going to invest real time or effort with - into SEOBook's keyword tool to see what it says for Yahoo & Bing.

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      • Profile picture of the author djleon1
        Mark,

        Question regards pages and posts.

        As I understand the home page is static with only the one keyword rich article/post with no further posts put on it. Each keyword is then given its own page.

        Do you put one static post at the top of each page and then add posts below that?

        Also - on the homepage - where/how do you provide links to the individual keyword pages?

        I am just trying to visualise how it works. Thanks for the OP.

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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Since I'm not a big Adsense user, I thought I should ask. I've heard of people emailing google about clicks and stuff that they don't think are good. I noticed in the stats that one site had 0 impressions and 5 clicks. Clicks were about 50 cents a piece, so is this a screw up on impressions? or do I need to contact google about it since it doesn't seem right? Or would they be able to pick up on this by themselves?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I'd play it safe and let them know about it. Five clicks with 0 impressions is odd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ajeet
    Mark, suppose you found a great niche which has a high search and low competition, and everything one could dream about. Would you make more than one site for the same keyphrase?
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    • Originally Posted by Ajeet View Post

      Mark, suppose you found a great niche which has a high search and low competition, and everything one could dream about. Would you make more than one site for the same keyphrase?
      Great question, Ajeet!

      It would depend a lot on the actual search volume number. I've created sites around a single keyword/phrase many times. Sometimes you come across one of those "dream" opportunities. In fact, if you spend enough time doing keyword research, you come across them pretty regularly.

      What I've found is that I can almost always uncover additional keyword/phrases to "bulk up" a site.

      That said, if the numbers are really that good, jump on it right away.

      One of the best ways to leverage a "one keyword" site is to use Wordpress, create a 500+ word 'page', and set it to display as your homepage.

      Then you can add posts using that keyword/phrase indefinitely, giving you all the SEO benefits of Wordpress, and having it all 'funnel' to your single keyword.

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  • Profile picture of the author preneurseo
    Is there a keyword finder that is for free aside from marketing samurai. I am really having a hard time looking for the right keyword but the problem is nothing is free nowadays and I don't have enough budget to buy one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Hey,

    The new 20 sites I picked up had a lot more research put into the domains and how much I would be getting per click. I haven't got many clicks yet so far (since I only have a few sites up with ads on it), but I had one site pull in two $1.50 clicks. Sure beats the hell out of the $0.10 clicks.
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    • Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      Hey,

      The new 20 sites I picked up had a lot more research put into the domains and how much I would be getting per click. I haven't got many clicks yet so far (since I only have a few sites up with ads on it), but I had one site pull in two $1.50 clicks. Sure beats the hell out of the $0.10 clicks.
      Way to go Stallion!

      All things being equal, I much prefer EPC's to the left of the decimal point...

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  • Profile picture of the author Andariels
    Hello all. I am adsense begginer. I just wonder from where is your core traffic. I use mostly socialbook and my sites are on first page on google. Main keywords have 2000 - 3000 search per month and still i have 5 visits per day :/ and 1 click per week. I do not make article marketing because i am not english is to hard for me. But 10 - 15 articles on ezine or another article directories make so much bigger difference? I have think that core traffic is from google.
    Is there somethink that i missing? Website is optimised according to xfactor course.
    Thank you for tips.
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    • Originally Posted by Andariels View Post

      Hello all. I am adsense begginer. I just wonder from where is your core traffic. I use mostly socialbook and my sites are on first page on google. Main keywords have 2000 - 3000 search per month and still i have 5 visits per day :/ and 1 click per week. I do not make article marketing because i am not english is to hard for me. But 10 - 15 articles on ezine or another article directories make so much bigger difference? I have think that core traffic is from google.
      Is there somethink that i missing? Website is optimised according to xfactor course.
      Thank you for tips.
      Hi Andariels and welcome to the Warrior Forum!

      I wrote a thread recently that might answer some of your questions about why you're not seeing more organic traffic:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...itors-day.html

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      • Profile picture of the author momake82
        hi there,
        I'm a noob here and I've heard about adsense when I was still in college. I never know how to do it properly even though I have lots of blogs. Is there any good ebooks for me about blogging, adsense, seo, traffice, etc?


        regards,

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        • Originally Posted by momake82 View Post

          hi there,
          I'm a noob here and I've heard about adsense when I was still in college. I never know how to do it properly even though I have lots of blogs. Is there any good ebooks for me about blogging, adsense, seo, traffice, etc?


          regards,

          Ivan
          Welcome to the Warrior Forum, Ivan!

          You might want to read through this thread, plus these:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...y-newbies.html

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...backlinks.html

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          • Profile picture of the author kingside
            Mark - loving you for this thread . Quick question, you say you prefer to build around niches that have several related keyword phrases getting 1000+ searches a month. You also say you use the "sub niches" to point to your main keyword, or the one you're really trying to rank for.

            Just so I understand, would this be something like this:

            Register bestbluewidgets.com

            Main page is an article on best blue widgets

            Sub-pages are things like best blue neon widgets, best blue widgets for kids, etc.?

            If that's the case, I'm assuming you're trying to find a low competition "main" keyword that has significantly more search volume than the sub phrases correct? Otherwise I'm not sure how you would determine which gets to be the main phrase.

            Hope that makes sense!
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            • Originally Posted by kingside View Post


              Register bestbluewidgets.com

              Main page is an article on best blue widgets

              Sub-pages are things like best blue neon widgets, best blue widgets for kids, etc.?

              If that's the case, I'm assuming you're trying to find a low competition "main" keyword that has significantly more search volume than the sub phrases correct? Otherwise I'm not sure how you would determine which gets to be the main phrase.
              Thanks for the kind words, Kingside.

              You've got it mostly right. First, keyword domain for your 'root' keyword/phrase. This will be your main 'money' keyword. As an aside, if you cannot get an 'exact match' domain name, make sure to BEGIN with your keyword/phrase. In other words, "keywordphrasehub.com" is far better than "bestkeywordphrase.com"

              For each of my 'target' keyword phrases, I'll create a Wordpress Page. Each will be optimized for it's specific keyword/phrase. Once I have all the pages done - I don't necessarily publish them all at once, as there is some extra "publish & ping" value to be had by spacing them a day apart - then I'll begin doing posts. I use posts to bolster the Pages, plus maintain the "updating & freshness" factor, which can boost your overall ranking values.

              Posts should also focus on single keyword/phrases, with an internal link to the Page they are supporting.

              As for what determines my primary 'root' keyword/phrase, it's usually the highest-volume 'reduced' keyword/phrase. For instance, "cheap flood insurance" might be my primary keyword/phrase, with "cheap flood insurance quotes", "compare flood insurance rates", etc., being the 'secondary' keyword/phrases. That isn't a hard-and-fast rule for me; 'rank ability' might trump volume if they're close. Over time, you'll develop an intuition for it.

              Hope that is a bit clearer.

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              • Profile picture of the author kingside
                Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                Thanks for the kind words, Kingside.

                You've got it mostly right. First, keyword domain for your 'root' keyword/phrase. This will be your main 'money' keyword. As an aside, if you cannot get an 'exact match' domain name, make sure to BEGIN with your keyword/phrase. In other words, "keywordphrasehub.com" is far better than "bestkeywordphrase.com"

                For each of my 'target' keyword phrases, I'll create a Wordpress Page. Each will be optimized for it's specific keyword/phrase. Once I have all the pages done - I don't necessarily publish them all at once, as there is some extra "publish & ping" value to be had by spacing them a day apart - then I'll begin doing posts. I use posts to bolster the Pages, plus maintain the "updating & freshness" factor, which can boost your overall ranking values.

                Posts should also focus on single keyword/phrases, with an internal link to the Page they are supporting.

                As for what determines my primary 'root' keyword/phrase, it's usually the highest-volume 'reduced' keyword/phrase. For instance, "cheap flood insurance" might be my primary keyword/phrase, with "cheap flood insurance quotes", "compare flood insurance rates", etc., being the 'secondary' keyword/phrases. That isn't a hard-and-fast rule for me; 'rank ability' might trump volume if they're close. Over time, you'll develop an intuition for it.

                Hope that is a bit clearer.

                Mark
                Thanks, that does help. Another question, if you don't mind. I understand your strategy of building up your secondary keywords as pages and then keeping a steady stream of fresh posts to support the pages and main keyword, but what's the placement like? Do you have your pages across the top, links to recent posts on the side, and your static main page as the main content section? Or do you ever pull in fresh content to the main page as an excerpt or something?
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          • Profile picture of the author janicejan
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            Fantastic read Mark, and the truths about ranking - backlinks was a very interesting read. Matt Cutts' promise on their neglect of nofollow tags still haven't come into play. Is it just a bluff?
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            • Originally Posted by janicejan View Post

              Fantastic read Mark, and the truths about ranking - backlinks was a very interesting read. Matt Cutts' promise on their neglect of nofollow tags still haven't come into play. Is it just a bluff?
              Thanks Janice. My experience has been that while Matt Cutts is sometimes elusive or understated - by necessity - I can't recall any 'bluffing'. It would be very counter-productive and wouldn't make much sense.

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    Nice Post. Good info for a noobie like me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    My beef is the backlinks showing up now. I'm not entirely sure if they're there or not. I've submitted articles to GoArticles (which is a confirmed dofollow site) and I don't really see them showing. Does it take time or what? I've also submitted to Ezine, but my articles haven't been accepted just yet.
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    • Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      My beef is the backlinks showing up now. I'm not entirely sure if they're there or not. I've submitted articles to GoArticles (which is a confirmed dofollow site) and I don't really see them showing. Does it take time or what? I've also submitted to Ezine, but my articles haven't been accepted just yet.
      Hey Biggy,

      Yup, just time. Time takes time. My experience with Goarticles is that while the article may be published relatively quickly, the backlinks don't show up for 2-4 weeks. Ezinearticles generally sooner, but it can still take a while.

      Generally speaking, if you use Digg, some of the SB sites, and Ezinearticles, you should start seeing backlinks in a week or two.

      Also generally speaking, it's almost always about a month for that initial ranking cycle to complete - first pass indexing, steep drop, gradual climb.

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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    To be honest, I haven't had much luck with my GoArticles backlinks showing up neither, right off the bat.

    So I've decided to do some testing by ALSO linking to those various GoArticles articles (as well as including them in an RSS feed that is submitted to RSS sites), in the hope of getting the search engines to notice them if they haven't already.

    This is a recommended backlinking strategy anyway.

    TIP: You might want to try getting easy automated backlinks to each article you submit by using the free trial available for Traffic Bug.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Okay, that makes sense. Just keep building backlinks and I'll be awarded in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobmcalister
    well...somewhere in the thread someone mentioned adding the rss feed for your article to the site...
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  • Profile picture of the author craig1983
    Nice read Ive been thinking about using Adsense for a while now so I found this information very helpful. TY
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Hey Mark,

    Just need your opinion regarding the Bluesense theme.

    Do you think it is cluttered with too many ads? also if you would remove one ad block which would it be on that theme?

    Gurpreet
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    • Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

      Hey Mark,

      Just need your opinion regarding the Bluesense theme.

      Do you think it is cluttered with too many ads? also if you would remove one ad block which would it be on that theme?

      Gurpreet
      Hi Gurpreet.

      It depends a lot on the type of sites you're doing. For "informational" niches - versus "product-centric" niches - I get my best CTR's with the BlueSense theme. I've also found that for me, it works best with the adblocks left as-is.

      Ymmv, plus there are always exceptions, but these things are what's been working for me over a lot of sites and a lot of testing, and over a long period of time.

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  • Profile picture of the author JuryDuty
    Hi Mark,

    I can't tell you how invaluable this thread has been and I THANK YOU for responding to all our questions. I've read through the entire thing twice and made many notes and have just a few questions I'm sure you'll be gracious enough to answer:

    1. You talk about turning the home page into a static page with all your keywords on it, but also say it will contain your blog...is that correct? Or do you make the blog itself a secondary page, along with all the longtail keyword pages?

    2. Socialbot sounds great, but the one review I found on it said it had trouble populating info from WordPress pages. Do you find that to be the case? Also, why use that AND Onlywire?

    3. You seem to be a fan of RSSBot, too, but WordPress allows you to add popular RSS services in setting/writing/update services. Are you using RSSBot for non-WordPress sites?

    I'll be refreshing by the minute to see your answers (especially to #1!).
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  • Profile picture of the author James Pateman
    Hi Klingon,

    Great detail. It's also possible to follow all the steps you've outlined to get the traffic, although choosing a different strategy for monetization. I've found that a superior monetization strategy that produces more profit (with the same amount of traffic) saves a lot of work.

    regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    Awesome thread Mark!

    Between this and Xfactor's thread, you really can't go wrong if you take action.

    I am currently building up ten websites (I am forcing myself to do the work in "10 site" intervals), as it is a numbers game and I figure I can always flip the ones that aren't up to my earning standards down the line.

    Now, I know that experimenting and tweaking your method to fit my needs goes without saying, but I would love some feedback regarding my specific site-building strategy.

    Specifically, I want to know if you (anyone) can think of any negatives to using the following site setup:

    Main keyword is a static wordpress PAGE, set it as my homepage
    Related (lower search #) keywords are wordpress POSTS

    I use All-In-one, and I just tend to see better results with posts, but then again maybe its just me.

    The posts show up in the side nav bar, and to the avg user the site looks just like a static page. Plus the homepage links to every posts, and ofcourse the post pages will essentially link to the homepage (wordpress PAGE - main kw).

    Any major negatives you see with this type of approach? Also, in general, I am curious if either POSTS or PAGES has a distinct advantage in regards to holding high in the SERPs over an extended period of time, assuming all other things being equal. Has anyone experimented with this?


    Thanks for being so generous with your time too man, I, along with other Warriors, appreciate it!


    -Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
      I don't know if it's just my imagination, but I've found that PAGES actually perform better than posts in terms of long-term rankings.

      If indeed this is the case, I'd say it's something to do with the fact that post pages normally include a date and time of that post being published... and posts are generally considered to never be updated. That is, if information becomes outdated, most people post a new blog post, rather than update the old one. Therefor a blog post, once posted, is probably then considered to be defunct... whereas a page isn't tied to a specific date/time, and therefor search engines expect the same page itself to be updated, rather than a new one created when new information is to be published.

      A lot of people here will tell you that static sites seem to hold rankings better.

      Having said that, blog posts are good for freshness in terms of your site overall. But probably not AS good for retaining rankings of each individual post.

      Just my experience.

      EDIT: For the record, I use pages for all of my adsense sites (which are running on WordPress), and have great success with that.
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      • Profile picture of the author carlos123
        Hi Mark,

        Carlos here...I've been studying this thread and your method and uncovering nice niches for a couple of days and have a question for you.

        You recommend micro niche finder and while it's undoubtedly a great tool I am wondering what it has over just the Adwords keyword tool? I mean doesn't it get it's data from API Google calls (at least with respect to Google info) which would presumably return the same numbers as the Google Adwords tool would?

        Don't get me wrong. Micro Niche Finder is nice in that it pulls data not just from Google but from other places and search engines and it does present the data in a nice formatted manner which would save time but...if one can't afford Micro Niche Finder is not the data that comes from the Google Adwords Keyword tool not sufficient and free for the taking?

        Though of course it might take more time to dig for nice niches oneself as opposed to using a nice tool like Micro Niche Finder.

        I know you are busy so please know that I don't expect you to pipe in on this question but if you do want to share something on this I am all ears.

        Carlos

        PS. I run Linux and cannot run Micro Niche Finder like a normal Windows user could do. I believe it's just a Windows application.
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        • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
          Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

          Hi Mark,

          Carlos here...I've been studying this thread and your method and uncovering nice niches for a couple of days and have a question for you.

          You recommend micro niche finder and while it's undoubtedly a great tool I am wondering what it has over just the Adwords keyword tool? I mean doesn't it get it's data from API Google calls (at least with respect to Google info) which would presumably return the same numbers as the Google Adwords tool would?

          Don't get me wrong. Micro Niche Finder is nice in that it pulls data not just from Google but from other places and search engines and it does present the data in a nice formatted manner which would save time but...if one can't afford Micro Niche Finder is not the data that comes from the Google Adwords Keyword tool not sufficient and free for the taking?

          Though of course it might take more time to dig for nice niches oneself as opposed to using a nice tool like Micro Niche Finder.

          I know you are busy so please know that I don't expect you to pipe in on this question but if you do want to share something on this I am all ears.

          Carlos

          PS. I run Linux and cannot run Micro Niche Finder like a normal Windows user could do. I believe it's just a Windows application.
          I don't want to speak for Mark here, but since I was online I figured I'd add my input.

          Basically, you've pretty much answered your own question here :-)

          Keyword tools are not magic bullets. Yes, both Micro Niche Finder and Market Samurai (the 2 biggest and "best" keyword tools) both pull their search volume information from the Adwords keyword tool, perform a simple search query to find out the number of competing websites/pages, and use the "link:" search parameter coupled with a website or webpages URL to collect data on the backlinks.

          Again, they only do the same stuff that each of us would be able to by hand, but it'd take us a helluva long time! However, since they're software running on computers, they're much more eficient at processing that data and setting it out in a way which is more consistent and more easily digestable than if we were to do it by hand.

          Again, they're not magic, but for anyone conducting any level of keyword research on a routine basis you're definitely going to want to have one of them at your disposal!

          As for your predicament with regards to Micro Niche Finder not worknig on Linux, you might want to try looking at Market Samurai instead. Market Samurai is built using the Adobe Air framework which makes cross-OS compatible. I know for sure that it works on both Windows and MacOS, and I'm fairly certain that it now supports Linux too.

          Download and install Adobe Air, then download the trial of Market Samurai and try it to ensure it runs before buying it (if indeed you do decide to).

          In the end, they both do the same job better than if you were to try to do it all manually.
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          • Profile picture of the author carlos123
            Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

            I don't want to speak for Mark here, but since I was online I figured I'd add my input.
            No problem DireStraits. I didn't mean to imply that I only wanted Mark's input so thanks for sharing your thoughts.

            As for your predicament with regards to Micro Niche Finder not worknig on Linux, you might want to try looking at Market Samurai instead. Market Samurai is built using the Adobe Air framework which makes cross-OS compatible. I know for sure that it works on both Windows and MacOS, and I'm fairly certain that it now supports Linux too.
            Adobe Air, in Market Samurai's own words does not yet work on Linux sufficiently for them to recommend Market Samurai for running on Linux.

            But as I suspected and you confirmed they pull the Google data at least from the same source that I am pulling manually anyway.

            I think it's good at this point in time for me to do things manually. Mainly from the standpoint that I am having to learn the ins and outs of picking keyword phrase winners. What I am learning will make a great ebook some day potentially. I have read everything I can get my hands on over the internet regarding keyword phrase picking and what I am learning is almost non-existant. Real nuts and bolts of picking winners based on this or that number of hits, competition numbers, CPC averages, etc..

            Most of what is available, at least for free online, is of the generic kind of information related to what a niche is, how to market to a niche, why niche marketing is good, etc.. Real lacking in the practical nuts and bolts of number and backlink count analysis and all kinds of practicals.

            Who knows, if the Google API is publicly available to the little guys maybe I will write my own quickie software program to pull the info I am looking for, for me. Under Linux.

            If there is enough interest maybe open source it and give these other programs a run for their money.

            Anyway....back to keyword analysis and learning. I am after a solid 15 great keyword phrases before I touch one line of coding to create my first site around those 15 keywords. I know that is not in line with the "just do it" perspective around here but that's the way I feel comfortable operating and the way I work best. One step at a time plodding along to my own internet success.

            Thanks for the input!

            Carlos
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Pruitt
        Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

        If indeed this is the case, I'd say it's something to do with the fact that post pages normally include a date and time of that post being published... and posts are generally considered to never be updated. That is, if information becomes outdated, most people post a new blog post, rather than update the old one. Therefor a blog post, once posted, is probably then considered to be defunct... whereas a page isn't tied to a specific date/time, and therefor search engines expect the same page itself to be updated, rather than a new one created when new information is to be published.
        Blog posts can be done without date stamps very easily.

        I don't believe the Googlebot doing the indexing really knows the difference between pages and posts, does it? I have both pages and posts with long term good rankings. This even includes posts with date stamps. Also, I often get old blog posts from 3 to 5 years ago or more at the top of searches I do.

        I think ranking has more to do with urls, keywords, links etc. than it does with whether the content is in pages or posts.
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        • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
          Hi Warriors. One area that no one seems to talk about, but totally kills CTR is Google posting non-relevant ads (ex. web page about apples, but AdSense ads about cars).

          I have several sites with relevant ads and they do OK. I also have several sites on which Google will simply not show relevant ads. I have tried (1) rewriting the content, (2) using the Google content selector code to help identify the relevant content for AdSense ads, (3) taking AdSense ads off for a while and then putting them back on, and (4) just waiting in hopes that Google will post relevant ads in the future. Nothing works.

          Does anyone have any "tricks" or tips on how to get Google to post relevant ads? Or am I the only person who seems to have this problem?

          Thanks.
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    That was a nice layout and the plan was ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richelle123
    The most I've ever made with Adsense is between $50-$70 per day. but that didn't last long because I was getting the traffic from posting ads on craigslist, then I started getting ghosted ads, which caused the traffic to slow down.

    Now I'm only earning less than $20 per day.

    The article is very useful, I might try building a SEO adsense website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Mark,

    Any idea how to remove the blogroll and meta from the right side column?

    Gurpreet
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    • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
      Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

      Mark,

      Any idea how to remove the blogroll and meta from the right side column?

      Gurpreet
      If you are using a widgetized theme, you can go to 'Widgets' under appearance in your WP admin area. From there you can drag whatever you want to the sidebar. Once you put any widget in there, the defaults should go away.

      Patrick
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      • Profile picture of the author Gee S
        Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

        If you are using a widgetized theme, you can go to 'Widgets' under appearance in your WP admin area. From there you can drag whatever you want to the sidebar. Once you put any widget in there, the defaults should go away.

        Patrick
        Hey Patrick,

        I'm using Bluesense and there doesn't seem to be any widgets activated although the meta and blogroll still appear.

        Gurpreet
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        • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
          Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

          Hey Patrick,

          I'm using Bluesense and there doesn't seem to be any widgets activated although the meta and blogroll still appear.

          Gurpreet
          Yes, so, the meta and blogroll are defaults for the theme. I haven't used BlueSense yet, but I suspect it is a widget ready theme. Go to your admin console, drill down under appearance, click on 'Widgets'. In the main part of the screen you will see lots of widgets available, hopefully ones that correspond to what you want in the sidebar. Drag the ones you want in your sidebar over to the sidebar area on the right. Once you have included at least one widget in the sidebar, that will replace the defaults.

          HTH,
          Patrick
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        • Profile picture of the author 2ndAccount
          Great Post Mark. You have reignited by love affair with adsense after a 2 year fling with affiliate marketing and product creation!

          Quick question. How hard to you work at your backlinking and for how long?
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          • Originally Posted by 2ndAccount View Post

            Great Post Mark. You have reignited by love affair with adsense after a 2 year fling with affiliate marketing and product creation!

            Quick question. How hard to you work at your backlinking and for how long?
            Depends on the site and my objectives. Generally though, I do it in 'phases':

            Phase 1 - initial ranking. Every page or post get's Dugg, Stumbled, and Social Bookmarked. I also set up an RSS feed and submit it to aggregators (I use Big Mike's RSSBot - terrific program).

            Phase 2 - I'll start submitting articles. Depending again on the particulars of the site and my objectives, I'll use the content of the original pages or posts for article submission, along with additional articles. For the most part, I only submit to EZA, Goarticles, and Buzzle.

            I'll also usually do a single Unique Article Wizard submission.

            At this point, again depending on objectives, I may build out some Web 2.0 sites - Squidoo, Hubpages, and Wordpress.com.

            I've found that in most cases, it takes almost exactly a month for a site to 'stabilize' in the SERPS.

            Phase 3 - again depending on the site and objectives, at the 1-month point the site is wherever it's going to be unless I continue to actively promote it.

            For sites that I want to really push, I'll continue doing Unique Article Wizard submissions, continue submitting articles 'aggressively' (one every other day or so), and continue posting content to the Web 2.0 sites.

            For sites that have a good SERP position - meaning first page listing for the primary keyword/phrase - and that I intend to let 'age' (meaning just collect the revenue and develop a few months of stable earnings & traffic numbers in order to flip), it goes into "maintenance mode". This usually means 1-2 article submissions per week, and perhaps a UAW submission and Comment Kahuna 'run'.

            Hope that helps ~

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            • Profile picture of the author carlos123
              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

              For sites that have a good SERP position - meaning first page listing for the primary keyword/phrase - and that I intend to let 'age' (meaning just collect the revenue and develop a few months of stable earnings & traffic numbers in order to flip), it goes into "maintenance mode". This usually means 1-2 article submissions per week, and perhaps a UAW submission and Comment Kahuna 'run'.
              Mark...where do you do your flipping? Do you advertise sites for sale on craigslist or other web site in particular? Here on the warrior forum? Elsewhere?

              What is your favorite way to flip sites you no longer want to maintain long term for Adsense?

              Carlos
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              • Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

                Mark...where do you do your flipping? Do you advertise sites for sale on craigslist or other web site in particular? Here on the warrior forum? Elsewhere?

                What is your favorite way to flip sites you no longer want to maintain long term for Adsense?

                Carlos
                Hey Carlos,

                Primarily Sitepoint / flippa. The majority of flips begin as an auction, and end as 'private sales'.

                I've used brokers as well, and sold a few posting "Business For Sale" ads on Craigslist.

                Mark

                PS ~ I owe you a call this weekend!
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                • Profile picture of the author carlos123
                  Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                  Hey Carlos,

                  Primarily Sitepoint / flippa. The majority of flips begin as an auction, and end as 'private sales'.

                  I've used brokers as well, and sold a few posting "Business For Sale" ads on Craigslist.

                  Mark

                  PS ~ I owe you a call this weekend!
                  Thanks Mark. There are whole ebooks available from flipping experts (no french intended by the phrase LOL) but I was just curious as to how you did it.

                  Carlos

                  PS. Look forward to your call! Don't forget to email me first.
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  • Profile picture of the author krishnaGopal
    thanks for this mini blueprint. I am looking to get into adsense so will give this a go ! iif it's possible to get a decent, continuous revenue, then i can maybe smell an empire of websites...lol !
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    Mark,

    I like reading your schedule about how you proceed. When you said:

    Phase 1 - initial ranking. Every page or post get's Dugg, Stumbled, and Social Bookmarked. I also set up an RSS feed and submit it to aggregators (I use Big Mike's RSSBot - terrific program).

    How far apart do you space apart submitting pages from the same domain when you submit it to digg and socialbookmarking sites. Do you just do one page per domain every 3-4 days?

    Also are you re-writing for ezinearticles, buzzle and goarticles? How many articles do you submit for a new site?

    Debbie
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    • Originally Posted by Yogini View Post

      Mark,

      I like reading your schedule about how you proceed. When you said:

      Phase 1 - initial ranking. Every page or post get's Dugg, Stumbled, and Social Bookmarked. I also set up an RSS feed and submit it to aggregators (I use Big Mike's RSSBot - terrific program).

      How far apart do you space apart submitting pages from the same domain when you submit it to digg and socialbookmarking sites. Do you just do one page per domain every 3-4 days?

      Also are you re-writing for ezinearticles, buzzle and goarticles? How many articles do you submit for a new site?

      Debbie
      Hi Debbie,

      As a rule, I do one page per day initially. The day I put the site up I Digg, bookmark, etc. the homepage. Then I'll do another page each day until I've gotten through all the initial pages.

      Once the site is in 'maintenance' mode, I may still add content to it, and if so I'll go through that routine as each new page is added.

      Depending on the site and it's objectives, I usually submit the site's pages as articles "un-retouched", though I will *always* wait until that particular content is indexed on my site first.

      How many articles I submit again depends. At the least, I'll submit one article per page, or site URL. This is to get a strong anchor-text link for each keyword - remember I target 1 keyword/phrase per page of a site.

      If it's a site that has somewhat stiffer competition, it may be many articles. I have sites for which I've submitted over a hundred articles over time.

      It's important however to maintain perspective. A site may achieve 'good' (Page 1) rankings on the strength of my initial efforts, and not really have much room for improvement - for instance, a #5 spot where #1, 2, & 3 are held by very strong competitors. Or where the total search volume isn't particularly high. Spending additional time and effort may not offer a proportional benefit.

      I say "depending on the site and my objectives" a lot. I divide my sites into a few different category types, and that will be the main driver in determining how and what I do. Whenever I launch a new site, there is a specific reason and objective. It might be a great keyword/phrase that I've come across and feel I can leverage. It might be to 'replace' a site I'm selling (I try to maintain a 'funnel' of sites). Etc., etc. I never build a site without a clear objective and goal.

      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author kingside
    Hey Mark,

    How do you track all of your different sites and what's been done where? I'm noticing even with my four sites it's easy to forget exactly which articles have been submitted for what site, what links need to be built etc. I'm thinking about putting a spreadsheet together to make all of this easier.
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    • Originally Posted by kingside View Post

      Hey Mark,

      How do you track all of your different sites and what's been done where? I'm noticing even with my four sites it's easy to forget exactly which articles have been submitted for what site, what links need to be built etc. I'm thinking about putting a spreadsheet together to make all of this easier.
      I think I might have mentioned this, and it's extremely important. Even if you only have a handful of sites, you want to keep track of what you've done and when.

      I use a spreadsheet. I put the website URL in one row, and depending on the site, I may list additional URL's for that site below it. I have columns for when I launched the site, article submissions, Social Bookmarks, etc. I use 'codes' to make it quick & easy. For instance "EZA 9-15", "GA 9-17", "OW 9-13", which tells me I submitted an article to EZA on 9-16, one to Goarticles on 9-17, tagged the page in Onlywire on 9-13, etc.

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      • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post


        I use a spreadsheet. I put the website URL in one row, and depending on the site, I may list additional URL's for that site below it. I have columns for when I launched the site, article submissions, Social Bookmarks, etc. I use 'codes' to make it quick & easy. For instance "EZA 9-15", "GA 9-17", "OW 9-13", which tells me I submitted an article to EZA on 9-16, one to Goarticles on 9-17, tagged the page in Onlywire on 9-13, etc.

        Mark
        This is a great idea! I've made my spreadsheet similar to this as well and it helps me keep organized.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Mark,

    Do you build links to the homepage at all, or do you just concentrate on your "pages" where you target one keyword?

    Also say we have a set of keywords for example "weight loss", "how to lose weight", "Weight loss diet", could we use a new website for each keyword. My reasoning for this is that you would concentrate building links to the homepage with a keyword rich domain (as you suggest setting a page to the homepage). Also it could provide as a back up plan as the homepage would rank well, and if your adsense account get disabled you could simply add an opt in page to the homepage and collect subscribers.

    But say you have all the keywords on to one website as pages, it wouldn't be appropriate to have an opt in on each page as it would just annoy visitors. Would there be any disadvantage to the approach I would make except for increased domain costs?

    I'm just trying to have other uses for these websites if adsense decided to shut me down.

    Thanks,

    Gurpreet
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Mark,

      You got to slow down dude!

      I mean you are giving out so much good advice and insight on this thread that I am having a heck of a time keeping up with the nuggets of Adsense wisdom you are graciously sharing with us all!

      I am trying to keep up by copying and pasting what you say into my ever growing file of "Marks Adsense Nuggets" but it's getting tough. I will no sooner have copied some nugget into the file named after you than you will turn around and hand out another one.

      I just can't keep up!

      Carlos

      PS. This post is meant as an entertaining version of my continuing thanks for what you are sharing! LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author 2ndAccount
        I use a number of spreadsheets I maintain for my sites.

        As a rule I have one xls per site. I have one row per keyword then in the columns I log the following:

        keyword competition
        keyword searches
        page created y/n
        count of eza articles submitted
        count of goarticles articles submitted
        count of blog comment left
        count of social bookmarks

        On another worksheet I maintain my to do list for the site.

        On another sheet I have a standard checlist of things I need to do on all my sites such as:

        install google analytics
        add to google webmaster tools
        on page seo plugins
        add affiliate links
        join a couple of forums (to get links)
        create adsense channels (to track performance)

        this way I know exactly what I have done and still got to do on all my sites. I don't need to think about what to do, I just get on and do it!
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      • Profile picture of the author carlos123
        Mark,

        If you don't mind throwing us newbie's some more Adsense morsels of goody from your storehouse of experience....

        You previously said in this thread...

        You don't want to target the 'primary' keywords, of course, but look for related and/or 'secondary' keyword phrases. And that's where the gold is: there are ZILLIONS of these 'secondary' keyword phrases that are there for the taking!
        I must be blind or something because even though I see ZILLIONS of these secondary keyphrases there are relatively few, very few, whose numbers are worth a second look. If we are talking about higher CPC's and LSV's along with low competition.

        The goal is to find relatively high-search-volume, low-competition 'keyword phrase groups'. Each group becomes the basis for a site, with a single page devoted to a single keyword/phrase.
        Can you give us an example of such a keyword phrase group?

        You mean something along the lines of....

        Golf
        Golf Clubs
        Metal Clubs
        Wood Clubs
        Golf Bags
        Golf Bags for Men
        Golf Bags for Women
        Gold Balls

        ??

        My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes). Realistically, I want search volume over 100/day and competition under 20k. This is not nearly as hard to find as you might think.
        Again I must be hard-headed or something Mark but in my keyword searching during the last week I have not come upon very many keyword phrases that have 3000+ searches per month with less than 20,000 web sites competing for top SERP position in that keyword phrase.

        I daresay I have not even come upon one such phrase. I use the Google Keyword Tool and search using Phrase match. I search Google for competition numbers without quotes.

        I have come across a number that have less than 50,000 other sites and which have traffic numbers 3,000 to 10,000 as well as CPC's above $2 but very, very few even there.

        Did you mean for your keyword phrase group as a whole? And not for an individual keyword phrase?

        I am not questioning the truthfulness of what you are saying Mark just trying to wrap my head around what I might be doing wrong with respect to the contradiction between what you are saying and what I am experiencing when it comes to uncover great keyword phrases to focus on.

        I must be doing something wrong or otherwise missing something but I just don't know what that might be so I am hoping that you might be willing to give me some additional insight to improve my keyword research.

        Carlos
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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      Mark,

      Below is the info regarding my pm.

      Also using the weight loss examples as above, when adding in the meta-description for the homepage, would you add the description as for example "get information on weight loss, how to lose weight, and weight loss diet" OR try put all these into one sentence such as "get information on how to lose weight diet"....I know a poor example but hope you understand what i'm trying to say. By repeating the root keyword in the first example, would this be seen as keyword stuffing?

      Thanks,
      Gurpreet

      Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

      Mark,

      Do you build links to the homepage at all, or do you just concentrate on your "pages" where you target one keyword?

      Also say we have a set of keywords for example "weight loss", "how to lose weight", "Weight loss diet", could we use a new website for each keyword. My reasoning for this is that you would concentrate building links to the homepage with a keyword rich domain (as you suggest setting a page to the homepage). Also it could provide as a back up plan as the homepage would rank well, and if your adsense account get disabled you could simply add an opt in page to the homepage and collect subscribers.

      But say you have all the keywords on to one website as pages, it wouldn't be appropriate to have an opt in on each page as it would just annoy visitors. Would there be any disadvantage to the approach I would make except for increased domain costs?

      I'm just trying to have other uses for these websites if adsense decided to shut me down.

      Thanks,

      Gurpreet
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  • Carlos my friend...

    I don't think you're doing anything wrong per se, some of it comes with experience - as with most things, if you do a thing often enough, for long enough, you begin to develop some intuition, your eye catches things quickly, etc.

    Let me "drop a nugget" on you. Or two. (Btw, as a rule I don't do this - posting specifics - as it attracts 'bottom feeders' who quickly 'poison the well', but there seems to be mostly just well-intentioned folks on this thread. And this will be my own personal experiment, as noted below...)

    Ok, in that most "don't even bother"-ish of niches: Credit. About 5 minutes of poking around.

    1st Example

    "fica credit score"
    Phrase Match, Local Monthly Search Volume = 1300
    Google's Adwords Ad Cost = $10.50
    Spyfu Ad Cost Range = $1.08 - $9.65
    Exact Phrase (in quotes) Search Results = 5,670 pages

    NOTE TO READERS: I will be targeting this phrase. If YOU target this phrase, I will know not to post any specifics any more. And you will likely be hit by a bus.

    2nd Example

    "what is considered a good credit score"
    Phrase Match, Local Monthly Search Volume = 2400
    Google's Adwords Ad Cost = $2.88
    Spyfu Ad Cost Range = $0.77 - $2.96
    Exact Phrase (in quotes) Search Results = 113,000 pages *BUT* positions #3 & #4 are Ezinearticles(!), and Position #1 has 23 BACKLINKS!

    The point(s): There may not actually be "Zillions" of keyword/phrase 'easy pickings', but there ARE a LOT!

    And, ALWAYS check the competition - which are really only ever the first 10 listings. All you have to be able to do is displace one of them, NOT compete against a zillion pages.

    Tools help, in this case something like MNF or Market Samurai makes life a LOT easier, but they are simply saving (a lot of) time doing things anyone can do with freely-available info.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Thanks so very much for your additional input Mark. I had responded to your post and thought I posted it but apparently I must have posted my response on some other thread and ended up completely confused as to what thread I was on momentarily LOL.

      Wherever my response ended up it must have given the thread readers there quite a laugh LOL.

      The essence of my response was thanks though I did notice that you use Phrase matching. I have been discussing on another thread with some others that insist that Exact matching is the only way to go. I will figure that out in time...it was just the only thing that stuck out to me as to you doing something different than what I was reading to do on another thread.

      I like the way you do things Mark and I am especially grateful that you are sharing so much with us newbie's.

      Carlos
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Hi Mark,

      I was doing some looking around at the examples you gave and had a couple of questions. Please feel free to ignore these questions Mark if you would rather not give out more information on the type of examples you gave. I honestly am not sure why you continue to give out information but if you are willing to share even more...I, and undoubtedly many others are all ears .

      I notice that both of your examples have what I had previously considered LSV's too low to even bother with. The first one you gave had an LSV of only
      1300 on a Phrase match.

      The second had an LSV of only 2400.

      Let's do the math with respect to what one might reasonably be able to attain from these low traffic numbers (bear in mind my "formula" may be off)...

      For purposes of illustration let's assume we get 25% of the ECPC of each example you gave as our average click through payout. That we will get the full traffic listed and that we will attain a conversion rate (i.e. CTR) of 4% on that traffic (i.e. that only 4% of visitors will click through our ads...I am spelling this out for those new to these concepts not for you Mark ). Let's see what we come out with per day if these percentages hold true.

      LSV x 4% x (ECPC x 25%) / 30 days in month =

      For first example:
      1300 x .04 x ($10.50 x .25) / 30 =
      52 x ($2.625) / 30 =
      $136.50 / 30 = $4.55 per day.

      The second example:
      2400 x .04 x ($2.88 x .25) / 30 =
      96 x ($.72) / 30 =
      69.12 / 30 = $2.304 per day.

      So we're talking only $4.55 and $2.30 per day per web site centered around these keyphrases. Now these amounts are respectable in that hopefully we can ride these websites for many months if not years to getting these amounts per day. Which is great but not quite the $50 a day that can be made from Adsense sites.

      So how would you go from less than $5 a day to $50 a day targeting these keyword phrases Mark (again please feel free to ignore this question if for any reason you don't care to answer)? I mean how do you turn the puny traffic amounts into enough traffic to have a reasonable hope of making...say $50 per day? I mean if the traffic isn't there it's just not there...or is it?

      I think part of the reason I did not previously "see" the zillions of keyword phrases with potential out there is because I was looking at traffic numbers that were much higher and also for competition numbers in the 50,000 range and up as a guide.

      Carlos

      PS. I just read on a membership site that I joined that the percentage of the traffic that comes through to a site is way less than the full LSV amount for example. Way less. This site was saying that even in position 1 of the SERP's that the traffic listed by Google that comes to us through a keyword will be around 40%! That means that in the example calculations I did above the sites in question would be making less than half of what I estimated they would (if my figures are correct). Which again makes the question I posed here even more of an issue with respect to how one can get enough traffic to shoot up to making $50 a day when the traffic doesn't even seem to be there to achieve that.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    I try to plan for about 25% from the CPC number on average. Of course you never know.

    One of my new sites finally got 6 people to it today. All 6 clicked. My massive income? 33 cents TOTAL.

    LOL. That's like 5 cents per click. Ouch.

    Granted, my site isn't on page one for my main KWP or my 2 main secondary KWPs. I'm kind of hoping I checked my stats around the time Google reported the clicks and the $$$ just hasn't updated yet (seen this before). But hey, if it rises in the ranks on its own from here and gets to $1 a day, I'll just let it ride.

    However, if it keeps at 5 cents per click, it just shows you that no matter how long you've been using AdSense, you'll still get some sites that miss the mark or just plain don't work.

    Of course, the site is new, so we'll see what's going on in 2-3 weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Interesting Jason. Thanks for sharing.

      Something to definitely keep in mind...that even the pros don't always get it right or rather that Google doesn't always confirm their best analysis in real practice.

      Incidentally the 25% in my "formula" comes directly from your most valuable previous input to me.

      Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Yeah Carlos.

    And for all I know, the site could end up on page one and get 40 clicks a day for 5 cents a pop, which is $2 daily. But this is why you don't obsess over a site until it proves its worth. You build the site, do your initial marketing routine and move on to the next one. This site isn't even close to page one for main KWP or 2 big secondary KWPs it has. I'll see how it's doing in 30-45 more days.

    Either way, it doesn't matter. I put the site up in a handful of hours. I'm well past it now. Got another site going up tonight, one was put up last night and I'm doing some research for my next handful of sites for next week.

    I like doing a bunch of sites at once so I can link to them slowly and naturally. I don't submit 20 articles for the site overnight or SB the heck out of it (I do the homepage though).
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Granted, my site isn't on page one for my main KWP or my 2 main secondary KWPs. I'm kind of hoping I checked my stats around the time Google reported the clicks and the $$$ just hasn't updated yet (seen this before). But hey, if it rises in the ranks on its own from here and gets to $1 a day, I'll just let it ride.
    I think the traffic source plays a roll in this. I assume that Google is watching the referer of visitors. If it is like stumbleupon traffic that you got you probably won't get crap. I decided that I wasn't going to make any judgements on sites until I got them into the top 3. Obviously clicks vary no matter what. I do have some sites on the front page (not in the top 3) that are getting crap for clicks. For example, probably my highest traffic site so far with this project has got three clicks so far today and make $0.25 total. But i bought this domain before I actually put research into the actual CPC side of thing (Yeah, I did the Ready, Fire, Aim thing).

    I think you just need to plug away at it. You'll get really good sites, average sites and sites that completely crap out. I'm sure you could hang on to the crappy ones for 6 months or so than sell it and just hang onto the good ones.

    I can't wait until some of my sites start pushing into the top 3. Than we'll see how things work.
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Originally Posted by Stallion View Post

      I think you just need to plug away at it. You'll get really good sites, average sites and sites that completely crap out.
      In one sense Stallion I think you are correct in the premise that we need perseverance and that we just need to keep plugging away. But in another sense I think the more carefully we do keyword research to uncover good one's at the beginning the more successful we will be on the tail end in having a major portion of our sites be good one's.

      Not in a foolproof way mind you but I would think the percentage of good sites will far outstrip the bad if we do proper keyword research first and foremost.

      I am not sure about this but I am under the impression that way too many newbie's go off creating sites on the barest minimum of keyword research with the aim to chase the almighty dollar as quickly as possible.

      I am reminded of a proverb that says in part "haste leads to poverty". How applicable if we are too hasty and just go and do it without careful keyword analysis.

      Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Yes, do your research.

    I'm not a newbie, so really, if I go buy 5 domains today and fire off sites, it's not a huge deal.

    However, if I were just starting out and could only afford to do say a couple sites (money or perhaps time limitations), I'd want to spend some extra time really fleshing out the possibilities.

    Yeah, I could sit there with a sniper rifle aiming at a niche, but I much prefer my Tommy Gun.
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    • Profile picture of the author kingside
      Jason -

      If it wouldn't be revealing too much, would you mind elaborating a little bit on what your initial SEO strategy looks for new sites? I know you submit some articles and do a bit of social bookmarking for the main page.. anything else that's always in the mix?

      Thanks a bunch
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      • Profile picture of the author JMartin
        Originally Posted by kingside View Post

        Jason -

        If it wouldn't be revealing too much, would you mind elaborating a little bit on what your initial SEO strategy looks for new sites? I know you submit some articles and do a bit of social bookmarking for the main page.. anything else that's always in the mix?

        Thanks a bunch
        Basically, it depends but some usual suspects are:

        1. I take care of on-page SEO (url, h-tags, title, etc).

        2. I'll social bookmark the site to a few places via OnlyWire.

        3. I will probably add a link to it from an existing site of mine.

        4. I will submit 1 article to EZA.

        5. Ping the site.

        Now, I may add these:

        6. Submit the RSS feed

        7. Submit to G's webmaster tools and analytics.

        8. Submit a couple more articles to EZA to ensure I've got links to all my internal pages.

        9. Submit an article to Goarticles and 1-2 other places for the home page.

        10. Social bookmark an internal page or two.

        All of this takes a couple hours tops. After that, I move on to the next thing. All the other types of linking comes later if I feel the site might be worth it. Generally, I'm just trying to get the site in the system so I can, over time, get some clicks to see what they are really worth to me and to see how far the up the site can move without major work.
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    Gotcha, many thanks for the clarification.
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  • Profile picture of the author arth
    Hi Mark,

    I have been trying this method and gained my first click last day, really inspiring!

    During my search for the right key words I have been using Spyfu checking the value of keywords.

    Since I am also doing the information niche site, I would like to hear your criteria about the price. If the Spyfu showed there is a $2 budget, how much should I expect per click?

    Did you do the same check before set up your site? What is the advertisement budget you prefer in Spyfu?
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    • Profile picture of the author carlos123
      Hi Mark,

      I've been doing some more keyword research and learning today and have come to the preliminary conclusion that searching for the competition in Google by using a keyword phrase in quotes is...well...worthless.

      The true competition, the real searching world competition, can only be seen if we search on Google without quotes.

      Just the way people search and seeing the sites show up that they will see.

      If you or anyone wants to know more of my reasoning for saying the above please see the thread below where I discuss this in more depth...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1220119

      It's possible that I am not understanding something since I am still relatively new at this but, I just don't see the logic in evaluating the competition that shows up when we search for a keyword phrase using quotes. The sites that show up using quotes are not the one's that searchers see.

      Carlos
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      One truly gem which discussing adsense in WF. Like anybody else here, I really enjoying this long, precious and generous thread. Thanks a lot for starting this Mark!
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      • Profile picture of the author carlos123
        I take back what I said about not using quotes when trying to determine how competitive a niche is in general.

        If I may add something to this thread that might be of help to others...here's something I learned today that is PURE GOLD (as the saying goes)....

        The number of sites returned by Google when searching for a given keyword phrase in quotes is a measure of how competitive the niche represented by that keyword phrase is. In a general sense the greater the number the greater the competition. The less the number the less the competition. The number itself however does not definitively say how tough it will be to achieve first page SERP ranking. It is a only a rough guide of how competitive a niche will be in that sites that are focused on that niche will be careful to optimize for the exact keyword phrase we are interested in. It is a guide to help us narrow the field of keywords down to those we might be interested in competing with others against.

        While such a guide to competitiveness is useful to help us quickly gauge how competitive a niche will be it will not help us determine how difficult it will be to actually achieve a page one position. For that we must evaluate the sites that show up in a search for the keyword phrase without quotes. The sites that show up on the first page under such a search are our true competitors.

        The number of sites that show up in a search without quotes is meaningless as a guide to the competitiveness of a niche since it is too general and includes in the number of sites returned those who have no interest in optimizing for a given key word phrase along with those who do.
        Pure Gold!

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        • Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

          I take back what I said about not using quotes when trying to determine how competitive a niche is in general.

          If I may add something to this thread that might be of help to others...here's something I learned today that is PURE GOLD (as the saying goes)....



          Pure Gold!

          Carlos

          While I know you're referring to competition numbers, it's a good opportunity to point out that regardless, you always want to do a Broad Match search before you proceed too far.

          A Broad Match search will bring up what the searchers you are hoping to target are seeing. And of course, it's those first 10 on a Broad Match search that you're truly competing with. You only have to displace one of them, regardless of the numbers.

          It's also worth noting that Broad Match is where you'll start seeing long-tails that you rank for without specifically targeting.

          In fact, you should be examining your Google Webmaster Tools "Top Search Queries" to look for long-tails that you can probably boost with just a little extra effort ("Clickthrough"). Also, the disparity between "Impressions" and "Clickthrough" are long-tails that you may not be converting, that again with a little extra effort might give you some good traffic.

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          • Profile picture of the author carlos123
            Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

            A Broad Match search will bring up what the searchers you are hoping to target are seeing. And of course, it's those first 10 on a Broad Match search that you're truly competing with. You only have to displace one of them, regardless of the numbers.
            Thanks for your added tips Mark. Great stuff!

            When you say displace one of them are you saying that we don't need to necessarily aim for position 1 on the top page of Google results? If that is the case Mark I am even more confused as to how in the world you can come anywhere near $50 a day targeting keyword phrases that get less than 3000 LSV per month. I mean given that a great portion of those searches are not even completed, that even position 1 web pages will not get more than about 50% of that traffic under the best of circumstances, and other such factors (assuming these are correct) one would need traffic along the lines of 10,000 LSV minimum to have any hope of coming even close to $10 a day in income never mind $50 for position 1. If we are talking about any lower position rankings among the top ten you end up with even less traffic increasing the amount of traffic we need to target to 15,000, 20,000 or even greater LSV.

            Which of course will make things even more competitive.

            I am getting flustered trying to figure out what I should be targeting and why. I will keep plugging away at this but it's no piece of cake. At least not for me.

            I suppose in time it will be but for now I am back to having a real hard time finding winning keyword phrases to focus my efforts on.

            Carlos
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            • Originally Posted by carlos123 View Post

              Thanks for your added tips Mark. Great stuff!

              When you say displace one of them are you saying that we don't need to necessarily aim for position 1 on the top page of Google results? If that is the case Mark I am even more confused as to how in the world you can come anywhere near $50 a day targeting keyword phrases that get less than 3000 LSV per month. I mean given that a great portion of those searches are not even completed, that even position 1 web pages will not get more than about 50% of that traffic under the best of circumstances, and other such factors (assuming these are correct) one would need traffic along the lines of 10,000 LSV minimum to have any hope of coming even close to $10 a day in income never mind $50 for position 1. If we are talking about any lower position rankings among the top ten you end up with even less traffic increasing the amount of traffic we need to target to 15,000, 20,000 or even greater LSV.

              Which of course will make things even more competitive.

              I am getting flustered trying to figure out what I should be targeting and why. I will keep plugging away at this but it's no piece of cake. At least not for me.

              I suppose in time it will be but for now I am back to having a real hard time finding winning keyword phrases to focus my efforts on.

              Carlos
              Carlos, you're a sharp guy, but you're over-analyzing this to death. First, outside of relatively non-competitive keywords, you don't land in first place. You work your way up to it. Second, all of these 'formulas' are trying to quantify things that have too many variables, too exactly. For instance, the breakdowns of clicks across different Page 1 positions.

              I know you're a programmer, so I'll s p e a k s l o w l y (I was once a programmer, but I've been in recovery for years...)

              You aren't going to pin this down to an exact function. And for some of this, you'll come to greater 'accuracy' through experience and intuition.

              Now don't take this wrong - I know you're objective is to understand this stuff, and you're doing an astonishing job going from something entirely new to you - if I look through your posts, my first thought is "if he took one-half of the time it took to consider, write those long and concise posts, read the replies, re-consider, re-post, etc., and put that time towards just picking some keywords that look good initially, put up a blog or simple site, and built backlinks, write a few articles, build a few more backlinks, etc., he'd be well on his way to answering his own questions much more accurately, plus he'd be that much further along to being able to do it better the second time, then better still the third time..."

              Please take that in the light-hearted spirit it's meant.

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              • Profile picture of the author carlos123
                Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                Carlos, you're a sharp guy, but you're over-analyzing this to death.
                You may have a point Mark. I just don't know how to not analyze it as in the only alternative I see short of analyzing this is to pick keyword phrases out of a hat which is no good. I mean I have to pick them based on something.

                It is the balance that I lack. The balance between over analyzing and not analyzing enough. It is a balance that does not come easily to me.

                I have a natural tendency to be very analytical (which makes me a good programmer) but I can go too far.

                First, outside of relatively non-competitive keywords, you don't land in first place. You work your way up to it. Second, all of these 'formulas' are trying to quantify things that have too many variables, too exactly. For instance, the breakdowns of clicks across different Page 1 positions.
                I can see where I have been too focused on being able to attain to position 1. Where that has been my end all and be all to initial keyword focus. If it has not seemed likely that I could land in position 1 I have tended to drop such a keyword from further consideration but such an approach has left me with scant keywords to potentially work on.

                When in fact it may have been very possible for me to achieve a position somewhere in the first 5. I will have to look over my keyword lists again and start developing sites around some that I can attain a position in the first 5 on.

                I know you're a programmer, so I'll s p e a k s l o w l y (I was once a programmer, but I've been in recovery for years...)
                Maybe I will join you in recovery if such is something to recover from LOL.

                You aren't going to pin this down to an exact function.
                I have indeed been trying to do that but as you rightly point out that may not be doable.

                Now don't take this wrong - I know you're objective is to understand this stuff, and you're doing an astonishing job going from something entirely new to you - if I look through your posts, my first thought is "if he took one-half of the time it took to consider, write those long and concise posts, read the replies, re-consider, re-post, etc., and put that time towards just picking some keywords that look good initially, put up a blog or simple site, and built backlinks, write a few articles, build a few more backlinks, etc., he'd be well on his way to answering his own questions much more accurately, plus he'd be that much further along to being able to do it better the second time, then better still the third time..."
                Mark any valid input you have is much appreciated. Even if that valid input is to point out the fallacy of my approach to date. I don't think my approach or the time that I have spent on posts has been a waste. I am miles ahead of many newbie's. The knowledge I have gained will do me well in time to come but I see your point where learning by doing is perhaps a wonderful way to learn too.

                Where I must be willing to fall flat on my face in the doing in order to stand and succeed in the long run.

                I just have not wanted to take 6 months to a year to do the learning. My focus on analyzing has been to shorten the learning time gained by doing to a minimum so I can succeed at this faster. But such a shortcut may not be entirely doable as I would wish it were.

                Please take that in the light-hearted spirit it's meant.
                It's tough to hear what may be true of my efforts so far Mark. For sure. What you say may even come close to being offensive to me but the truth is the truth and to the degree that you have experience I would be a fool not to listen and learn from your correction.

                Please do not hesitate at all to correct anything I may say in the future or to remind me of the nuggets of wisdom you have shared with me so far.

                Carlos
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    Great post here!
    And newbie here impressed alot!

    But I always think it is hard to traget a good keyword for me, any suggestion??
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    I've only read the first 3 pages so far, so I apologize if it's addressed in the latter pages.

    Since you use adsense optimized themes, how do you test your ad placement layouts?
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroacid
    wow, the information is cool and help me to get an idea on how to really start "adsense".

    I am still searching for a niche market which I found it is really hard to do in the first hand!! Keep on trying and will take your info as an advice for the keyword research as this is the most difficult part for me as a start!!

    Thanks for sharing!!
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    thanks for sharing this great information
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  • Profile picture of the author BKenn01
    Mark, I apologize if you have already answered this question. What do you think of autobloggers for adsense marketing? Do you utilize this method?
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    nice thanks a good read
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  • Profile picture of the author brucekaushik
    i have been looking for a step by step plan to do that .. this information is very valuable and it helps a lot (if i do all the stuff you have mentioned) .. but i am always a little afraid of adsense .. i don't know why but i believe its because of the fear everyone generated in me.
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    • Originally Posted by davidjones View Post

      "How do you target high-paying clicks? Think high-CPC keywords. While the CPC isn't what's being paid for ads on the Content Network (where you are showing ads), you CAN get a 'relative' idea."

      Now as much as I like this idea high CPC keyword WILL be highly competitive,
      hence super hard to get on page one of the serps!

      But I will say that I have wanted to get into Adsence for the longest time,
      screw paying google, I want google to pay me!
      This is the essence of this particular Adsense model.

      What I have found is that you can almost always uncover 'worthwhile' keywords/phrases in these high-EPC niches.

      The idea is to find a handful - even 1-3 works - of keyword-related phrases (meaning a common 'core' keyword or phrase), get a keyword-match domain, and narrowly target those keywords/phrases.

      With decent social bookmarking, article marketing, RSS, blog commenting, etc., I've found I can get a Page 1 position within 3-6 weeks better than 80% of the time.

      For many of these keyword/phrases, even the bottom of Page 1 will get you 1-3 clicks or $5/day. With an ongoing backlinking effort, you push up a little bit higher, then a little bit higher, etc.

      If you've done your keyword research 'well', you will be targeting keyword phrases that can give you at least 3-5 clicks per day each. A 'small' site can net you $10-$20/day pretty easily.

      After you've uncovered your target keyword/phrases, built your site, begun your ranking efforts, it comes down to volume. Even a jump from Position 8 to 7 can boost your volume by 50% in some cases.

      Once you reach Page 1, you'll begin to see where your efforts are paying the highest dividends. It may be a particular keyword/phrase that has relatively 'weak' competition just above you, it may be multiple keyword/phrases that you can rank for, it may be a particular keyword/phrase that's paying a lot. This is where you focus your time and effort.

      Then do it again. And again.

      Realistically, you can reach $100/day with just a handful of sites. And if you find your efforts on a particular site or keyword/phrase aren't paying off, but you're doing all the 'right' things, move on. Don't get hung up spinning your wheels on something that isn't working. One of the biggest 'traps' is getting emotionally invested in a particular site or keyword.

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      • Profile picture of the author EricGiguere
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        The idea is to find a handful - even 1-3 works - of keyword-related phrases (meaning a common 'core' keyword or phrase), get a keyword-match domain, and narrowly target those keywords/phrases.

        With decent social bookmarking, article marketing, RSS, blog commenting, etc., I've found I can get a Page 1 position within 3-6 weeks better than 80% of the time.

        For many of these keyword/phrases, even the bottom of Page 1 will get you 1-3 clicks or $5/day. With an ongoing backlinking effort, you push up a little bit higher, then a little bit higher, etc.

        If you've done your keyword research 'well', you will be targeting keyword phrases that can give you at least 3-5 clicks per day each. A 'small' site can net you $10-$20/day pretty easily.

        After you've uncovered your target keyword/phrases, built your site, begun your ranking efforts, it comes down to volume. Even a jump from Position 8 to 7 can boost your volume by 50% in some cases.
        Yes, it's truly amazing what you can do by building sites that focus on low-competition keywords. I think it's the only way for small AdSense publishers to make decent money these days.
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      • Profile picture of the author andyj00
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post


        Realistically, you can reach $100/day with just a handful of sites. And if you find your efforts on a particular site or keyword/phrase aren't paying off, but you're doing all the 'right' things, move on. Don't get hung up spinning your wheels on something that isn't working. One of the biggest 'traps' is getting emotionally invested in a particular site or keyword.

        Mark
        Great info thanks.
        At what point would you stop doing work on a site and consider it a no go? For instance, how do you know how many articles to submit or blogs to comment on? Have you got some metrics that you go by? Would you say 20 articles is enough or 40?

        Thanks.
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        • Originally Posted by andyj00 View Post

          Great info thanks.
          At what point would you stop doing work on a site and consider it a no go? For instance, how do you know how many articles to submit or blogs to comment on? Have you got some metrics that you go by? Would you say 20 articles is enough or 40?

          Thanks.
          Andy
          Lately, as in maybe the past 6 months, it seems to take almost exactly a month before a new site in a 'busy' category settles down.

          I use Traffic Travis to track my targeted keyword/phrase down to position 100. If I don't 'land' there 1 month after my 'usual' routine, it's likely going to be a no-go.

          I might put in an additional 'burst' effort - a few EZA submissions, some high-PR backlinks, etc., and if I'm still nowhere to be seen, it's a pass.

          If I get to a Top 20 position, but don't seem to be getting much further, it's usually either step up my efforts - providing the volume and EPC's justify it - or let it lay.

          Often, better rankings on other pages over time will 'pull up' those that are lagging.

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    If I only have Ms than MNF...

    Is it OK to Compare SOC with SEOTR...?

    anyone please share your experiment with this..

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Allan
    An excellent thread. Thanks for all the high quality info.

    Like most people, I find it hard getting my brain to spit out fresh niche ideas. I assume from your earlier posts that NicheBot helps in this area. I currently use MNF.

    I've got a question about NicheBot if you don't mind answering it.

    They have 3 membership options; which do you use and if you use Silver or Gold, at what point (level of activity) would you consider upgrading (to Gold / Platinum)?

    Put another way, what level of activity would each membership option support before needing to upgrade?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author warrior123
      Originally Posted by Mark Allan View Post

      Like most people, I find it hard getting my brain to spit out fresh niche ideas.
      IMO, paid tools for finding niches is just wasting money.

      Amazon, Wal-Mart, Target, Shopping.com, etc contain all the niche ideas you'll ever need
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      • Originally Posted by warrior123 View Post

        IMO, paid tools for finding niches is just wasting money.

        Amazon, Wal-Mart, Target, Shopping.com, etc contain all the niche ideas you'll ever need
        I don't think most people use the paid tools just to come up with niche ideas, but to examine them i.e. search volume, related terms, etc. - keyword research.

        As far as simply 'brainstorming', I agree with you. In fact, I'm about to do a post of free 'brainstorming' and niche idea research from an IM resource product I had created a while back.

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    • Originally Posted by Mark Allan View Post

      An excellent thread. Thanks for all the high quality info.

      Like most people, I find it hard getting my brain to spit out fresh niche ideas. I assume from your earlier posts that NicheBot helps in this area. I currently use MNF.

      I've got a question about NicheBot if you don't mind answering it.

      They have 3 membership options; which do you use and if you use Silver or Gold, at what point (level of activity) would you consider upgrading (to Gold / Platinum)?

      Put another way, what level of activity would each membership option support before needing to upgrade?

      Thanks
      Mark
      Hi Mark,

      I'm actually moving away from Nichebot the last few months. I still use it daily, but I'm finding myself using Microniche Finder and Market Samurai more and more.

      That said, I'm an 'old skool' Wordtracker user, and I've been using Nichebot as my primary keyword tool for close to two years.

      Unless you are doing a LOT of keyword research, Silver should be more than enough. In fact, I found that when I first upgraded, I wasn't using many of my credits anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author beachrat
    I have a question about channels and tracking.

    Are you guys creating a separate channel for every niche site or page?
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    I create a "URL Channel" for every site. It's absolutely imperative that you track each site. With one URL Channel, you can track every page of a site.

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    • Profile picture of the author beachrat
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      Beachrat,

      I create a "URL Channel" for every site. It's absolutely imperative that you track each site. With one URL Channel, you can track every page of a site.

      Mark
      Thank you sir, that's what I needed confirmed.


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    • Profile picture of the author Riposte
      internetmarketer99,

      What kind of time frame are you looking at to get a new site (home or inner page) ranked highly enough for good traffic/income?

      You lay out your link building plan, but how long do you do it? How long do you stick to that plan for each site, and what kind of progress do you see before slowing down or moving on to another site.

      Are we talking 12 months per site here? Are you building links to a new site EVERY DAY until you hit #1 (or making $5+ per day or something)?

      I've built over 100 sites since April and I'm stuck at $10-20 per day total. These are all sites with 5+ pages of good unique content, and most of them have 100-200 of backlinks. The keywords receive high EXACT search counts, and many of them have very little to no competition at all (less than 15,000 competing sites, etc.).

      I just don't see how anyone can get one of these sites to consistently bring in more than $1 per day in less than a year.

      I don't even know how to diagnose my problem anymore since I've hit such a huge brick wall of cognitive dissonance here. Working every day for 6 months to build and backlink to 100 sites has just about turned me insane.
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      • Originally Posted by Riposte View Post


        I've built over 100 sites since April and I'm stuck at $10-20 per day total. These are all sites with 5+ pages of good unique content, and most of them have 100-200 of backlinks. The keywords receive high EXACT search counts, and many of them have very little to no competition at all (less than 15,000 competing sites, etc.).

        I just don't see how anyone can get one of these sites to consistently bring in more than $1 per day in less than a year.

        I don't even know how to diagnose my problem anymore since I've hit such a huge brick wall of cognitive dissonance here. Working every day for 6 months to build and backlink to 100 sites has just about turned me insane.
        Ripost,

        Don't take this as a personal criticism, but clearly you're doing something very wrong. 100 sites averaging 10-20 cents per day is *awful*. I totally hear you on the "huge brick wall of cognitive dissonance" thing.

        There isn't enough information in your post to 'diagnose' why you aren't doing better, but it can only be one of three things: volume, EPC, or conversions. If you're getting anything more than a handful of visitors, either they aren't converting (clicking an ad), or you're getting pennies per click.

        Do you have Google Analytics installed? Can you give me an idea what your traffic numbers are like? Off the top of my head, the only way I could imagine such poor returns, unless you're getting close to zero traffic, would be either near-zero conversions, or Smart Pricing.

        If you'll PM me, I'd be willing to talk with you further and take a look at what you're doing.

        Obviously you have and are willing to put in the time & effort. I don't know how many hours you're devoting, but with 100 sites in 6 months, each with 100-200 backlinks and 5+ pages, you're clearly putting in a lot of time. With that level of time and effort, you could definitely reach $100/day.

        FWIW, and I say this only to offer you some encouragement before you jump off a bridge, my Adsense earnings are very stable. They go up when I add sites, and as newer sites 'mature', and they go down when I flip sites. But I can 'forecast' how my sites will do, over what period of time, at least as an average.

        In terms of timeframes, I can tell you this - I have one current site that went from zero to over $100/day in less than 120 days. Yesterday it did $118.86. And while $100/day sites aren't the norm, they do happen. And $25-$50/day after 90-120 days is pretty close to the norm.

        Adsense is a numbers game - though not the numbers you've been experiencing - revenue = traffic x EPCs x conversions. If you've chosen 'good' niches, you'll get the EPC's. If you've done good keyword research, and you apply basic ranking efforts, you'll get the traffic. And if you use an appropriate theme for the niche type, you'll get the conversions.

        As such, more traffic = more revenue. While not every one of my sites succeeds the way I expect, most do. And that becomes clear within 8 weeks. Those that do succeed, I can continue to boost my ranking efforts, which in turn boosts traffic, which then boosts revenue.

        In terms of timeframes, I find it takes almost exactly a month for my new sites to 'settle' at their initial SERPs position. Once they've settled, I apply my ranking efforts in earnest. By months 2 or 3, I can usually have a good Page 1 position.

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          Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post


          In terms of timeframes, I find it takes almost exactly a month for my new sites to 'settle' at their initial SERPs position. Once they've settled, I apply my ranking efforts in earnest. By months 2 or 3, I can usually have a good Page 1 position.

          Mark
          I think I need a daily reminder of this. I get so discouraged when I don't see instant results but I know xfactor has also said this in his book so I just need to accept it and continue building new sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel Zaouche
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      Beachrat,

      I create a "URL Channel" for every site. It's absolutely imperative that you track each site. With one URL Channel, you can track every page of a site.

      Mark
      Hi Mark

      I am a little confused and really hope that you can help me out. I put together a site and set up a channel for it in adsense. I am a complete newbie to adsense (having earned about £20 in a year and a half!) but this thread and xfactor inspired me.

      So anyway I have my channel set up for mycooldomainname.com but yesterday I had one click (told you I was a newbie) for 16p and today a click for 93p.

      My long winded question is how do I know which page gave which click or is that even possible?

      I have google analytics installed on all three new sites I have set up but typical for this one it says it is still collecting data so I dont even know how many visitors I am getting. (honestly writing articles for other people is SO much easier for me to earn cash lol). I have installed it twice now so hopefully I have done it properly this time.

      Any advice you could give me would be great.

      Oh and thank you again so much for this thread and the time you have devoted to it.

      Rach
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Hey Mark,

    Would your $100 a day "newer" site be in health or finance by chance?

    Might be tougher to get traffic but those clicks are yum yum yum.
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    • Originally Posted by JMartin View Post

      Hey Mark,

      Would your $100 a day "newer" site be in health or finance by chance?

      Might be tougher to get traffic but those clicks are yum yum yum.
      That particular site isn't, though I have a few sites in both of those niches, and they do very well. Yum, yum, yum...

      Remember, it isn't the niche that's hard to get traffic for, it's the keyword/phrase. The 'popular' niches have many 'difficult' keywords, but they also have plenty that aren't so hard.

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  • Profile picture of the author bobnolan
    Hey internetmarketer99, can you tell me whether article submissions count as duplicate content? Because my new site, which was just indexed a few days ago, has lost all of its indexes in google search some reason. I submitted every article made to goarticles, all my own unique content I figure that's the only reason, because I don't think I did anything else wrong.

    I could send a private message to you about the website in question if you don't mind.
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    • Originally Posted by bobnolan View Post

      Hey internetmarketer99, can you tell me whether article submissions count as duplicate content? Because my new site, which was just indexed a few days ago, has lost all of its indexes in google search some reason. I submitted every article made to goarticles, all my own unique content I figure that's the only reason, because I don't think I did anything else wrong.

      I could send a private message to you about the website in question if you don't mind.
      Hi Bob,

      Nope, you're fine submitting your website content to article directories. I do it with every page of every site, though I always wait until it's indexed on my site first.

      As long as it's your content, and you submit each to only one directory, you're fine. And besides, that's just for the article directories. Google wouldn't care if you submitted them all over the place.

      Are you sure you've actually been de-indexed? If you do a Google search like this:

      site:www.yourdomain.com

      and you get nothing back, you're not in the index. If that's the case, however, it isn't from submitting your content as articles. How long has your site been indexed for, and how long has it been 'missing'?

      Mark

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  • Profile picture of the author Ron.
    Mark,


    you're 1 awesome guy. You've been very helpful with the information you've shared. The answers you're giving are the answers you'll get when you pay for a coaching program.

    I hope the Karma gods look over your current and future sites and bless you with much more continued adsense success.


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  • Profile picture of the author Harmain
    Hi Internetmarketer
    Thanks for your more informative thread. your thread has polished my Online Eaning Skills
    Really Unique & informative...................Thanks again
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  • Hi Rach,

    A URL channel for "mycooldomainname.com" will give you site-wide tracking and totals. If you want to be able to see individual pages, you'll need to enter each URL i.e. mycooldomainname.com/page-1.html, mycooldomainname.com/page-2.html, etc.

    If you do that, you can run "Reports" on individual pages, all pages, etc. Plus, on your main screen, you'll see individual pages listed when they are clicked. Keep in mind though that you may also see clicks 'reported' twice on that screen. You'll see a click on mycooldomainname.com/page-2.html reported as such, plus a click on mycooldomainname.com, which are the same click.

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    • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
      If you connect your Adsense and Analytics accounts, you can get the per page earnings within Analytics. To do this, click on "Content" to drill down into it, then click on "Adsense" to drill down into that, and then you can see several things including clicking on "Top Adsense Content" which is what you are looking for.

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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    OK, here is a typical web site. It has 10,000 uniques per month and 50,000 pageviews. The typical CTR is 1% so that means 500 clicks and getting a typical dime per click the payout is $50/month so getting $100/month is not that hard. All you need to do is double your traffic and viola!

    The problem is that a person getting 50,000 pageviews expects 5% CTR (good luck) which would mean 2,500 clicks and to make a buck a click (unrealistic) for $2500/mo.
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    • Originally Posted by seobro View Post

      OK, here is a typical web site. It has 10,000 uniques per month and 50,000 pageviews. The typical CTR is 1% so that means 500 clicks and getting a typical dime per click the payout is $50/month so getting $100/month is not that hard. All you need to do is double your traffic and viola!

      The problem is that a person getting 50,000 pageviews expects 5% CTR (good luck) which would mean 2,500 clicks and to make a buck a click (unrealistic) for $2500/mo.
      A $1/click is not at all unrealistic. Nor is 10%-20% CTR. Most of my sites average $1/click and high CTR's. Many average $1-$3/click, a few even more than that. And I have one site that gets some $5-$9 clicks.

      Did you read the OP? The main focus of this method is to target high-EPC niches. While there are viable Adsense models that target low-EPC niches, notably Xfactor's, 10 cent clicks aren't the only way to approach Adsense. The "typical" websites you're referring to aren't particularly well optimized for Adsense as their primary revenue source.

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      • Profile picture of the author JMartin
        Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

        A $1/click is not at all unrealistic. Nor is 10%-20% CTR. Most of my sites average $1/click and high CTR's. Many average $1-$3/click, a few even more than that. And I have one site that gets some $5-$9 clicks.
        Very true.

        I don't have any sites doing $5-$9 clicks on average, but I do have ones that get most of their clicks in the $1-$3 range.

        Should point out that none of these are "product sites."
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          Been doing this for anout 2 months. Are blogs more difficult to get ranked? I am noticing my WP blog is still NOT in top 100 for MNF, low competition KWs
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          • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
            Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

            Been doing this for anout 2 months. Are blogs more difficult to get ranked? I am noticing my WP blog is still NOT in top 100 for MNF, low competition KWs
            Sites made with WordPress aren't more difficult to get ranked. In fact, quite the opposite. Since WordPress is pretty well configured and the themes are normally well laid out and SEO'd, you should find it's easier to get ranked.

            For the purposes of doing what we're doing, however, static-looking sites tend to work better (get a better CTR, etc) than blog-style sites.

            I'm running WordPress for my sites with a custom built "static site" looking theme similar in layout (but not overall appearance) to that which was recommended by XFactor, and they're doing extremely well. They are indexed consistently without problems, and with sufficient backlinking (how much depends on your niche selection and strength of competition), they are ranking particularly well.

            Don't worry about this. If you like creating, running and updating websites with WordPress, then use WordPress.

            Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    I thought I should throw out an update on my progress. I'm about 1 and a half months into this so far. Things have slowed down a little bit. A lot of my sites are in that Google Dance mode. I guess in weaker niches the dance occurs a little later than the more competitive niches. So a lot of my sites have disappeared off the front pages and have been bouncing around. Some have returned back to the front page.

    Still waiting for some to hit the front page. I have picked up some of my domains as little testers. I wasn't exactly sure if I could rank for keywords, so I just bought the domain to find out.

    I find with me a lot of my sites don't start to make the positive moves until somewhere between month 2 and 3. So I'm not worried, just waiting.

    I ended up converting my highest traffic site in this experiment to Amazon. The CTR wasn't that great and the clicks were all worth 4-8 cents. I bought that one before I actually researched CPC, but converted the first night that I did it.

    Still not near the break even mark ($350), but I'm sure things will pick up once my sites starting moving not only to the front page, but up the ranks of the front page.
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  • There is a never-ending debate over Wordpress vs. static sites. I use both. That said, I use Wordpress for the majority of my sites.

    In terms of ranking, you'll hear people swear that Wordpress sites rank 'better', and just as many people swear it's just the opposite.

    Wordpress has many inherent features to make the job of ranking easier, and there are some specific differences, but providing you know what you're doing and are willing to put in the effort, neither has an innate advantage.

    This thread is based on the system I use for building and ranking high-payout Adsense sites. It takes advantage of a theme that is well-optimized for the specific type of 'informational' sites that I'm building, leverages the SEO benefits of both hierarchical structure (using 'Pages'), and chronological 'running' site structure.

    Whether I'm successful ranking a site has more to do with the keywords/phrases I'm targeting and my backlinking efforts than whether it's a static site or Wordpress.

    My guess is that all other things being equal, if you're having trouble ranking a site that is build with Wordpress, you'd have similar difficulty were it a static HTML site.

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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      There is a never-ending debate over Wordpress vs. static sites. I use both. That said, I use Wordpress for the majority of my sites.

      In terms of ranking, you'll hear people swear that Wordpress sites rank 'better', and just as many people swear it's just the opposite.

      Wordpress has many inherent features to make the job of ranking easier, and there are some specific differences, but providing you know what you're doing and are willing to put in the effort, neither has an innate advantage.

      This thread is based on the system I use for building and ranking high-payout Adsense sites. It takes advantage of a theme that is well-optimized for the specific type of 'informational' sites that I'm building, leverages the SEO benefits of both hierarchical structure (using 'Pages'), and chronological 'running' site structure.

      Whether I'm successful ranking a site has more to do with the keywords/phrases I'm targeting and my backlinking efforts than whether it's a static site or Wordpress.

      My guess is that all other things being equal, if you're having trouble ranking a site that is build with Wordpress, you'd have similar difficulty were it a static HTML site.

      Mark
      Mark,
      I went back and re-read your original post, which is excellent and gives me encouragement to pursue this. So, will go back and regroup . Maybe i SHOULD FOCUS on one goal. I have been trying to break into the health niche and t the same time creating some micro sites for additional keywords for my primary e-commerce collectibles site.

      One question on the research phase. I am using MNF. I am grabbing keywords with at leats 1000 monthly searches with SOC (competition) of 50 or less. I do not really consider if the Exact Phrase Count (number of web pages that are indexed in Google for the given exact phrase) is high, such as 1,000,000 results. Should I NOT invest in keywords with high Excat Phrase COunt ? Even if SOC is low?

      here is the first site I setup for Adsense (now have five)
      Losing Weight Tips Healthy Eating Recipes - Healthy Eating Plans

      I AM incorporating my CPA stuff
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      • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
        @Nofearman:

        The addthis widget also hovered gets on top of google adsense unit and maybe this could get you into trouble.

        Also when you leave the home page, there is no way to go to home with menu navigation ?
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        • Profile picture of the author vema123
          Sorry if I've missed anything, but I've got several questions which puzzle me a lot:
          1. Anyone's got any idea WHY Mark (internetmarketer99) is now banned?
          2. For anyone who's tried his idea of making $100/day, how's your project going on? Any success?

          Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris-
            Originally Posted by vema123 View Post

            2. For anyone who's tried his idea of making $100/day, how's your project going on? Any success?

            Thanks
            Silvia
            Here's my experience so far (after about 7 weeks of having 4 sites running using most of the suggested method) . . .

            On the income per click, yes, following the advice of finding high-CPC keyword groups, I am getting about $1 per click. But that's my only "success" so far with this system . . .

            On click-through, I am getting about half a percent, ie. a tenth of what is said to be possible. No idea why this is . . . I am using the BlueSense theme and doing approximately 300 word articles that are fairly mediocre and obvious in content, so no idea why doing exactly what the method says produces results that are a tenth of what they "should" be. If anyone here is getting anything like the 5 to 10% click-through quoted, I would very much appreciate you having a quick look at my sites and telling me what I am doing wrong (please PM me, thanks!).

            As for visitors . . . I've had 4 sites up for about 7 weeks now, and was getting a handful of visitors a day until last week, when all those sites dropped to an average of only about 1 visitor a day. I guess Google changed my sites from being categorised as "new" to not-new, and so they dropped in ranking. So far I've posted a new Page or Post nearly every day, Dug and Stumbled all of them within a few days of posting, and submitted to EZA and GoArticles within a few days of a page or post being indexed by Google. I also posted a bunch of posts in relevant GoogleGroups (Google doesn't seem to count YahooGroups posts as backlinks at all!) and done some commenting via CommentKahuna, and commenting on Blogs via a Google search. So I guess it takes many months to get any kind of reasonable traffic. I have only just disovered UAW, so hopefully will speed up my backlink numbers (my best site has twenty-something backlinks now, after 7 weeks), but of course that costs money, so it looks like I'll be making a loss for at least a few months before the backlinks build up enough to give me decent amounts of traffic. I have found that Google takes at least 5 weeks to find a back-link for the EZA and Digg, and even slower for anything else.

            As with every other system I've found or bought, the reality is nothing like what's promissed, not even a tenth of what is said to be attainable. Whether the guy who started the thread was exagerating hugely to get customers for his product, or what, I am not sure.
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            • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
              As a person who is succeeding with Adsense, I'm reading you post shaking my head, saying to myself, "He doesn't get!!! He just doesn't get! Not ending with your comments."

              To succeed at Internet Marketing you must have a, "I will succeed mentality!" That means no matter what...

              No matter that my current traffic is low.. I will get it to increase!

              NO matter that my CTR is 0.5%... I will get it to increase!

              No matter that I'm using a bland WP Theme... I will switch it to a better theme!

              No matter that I'm making mistakes... I will admit them and move on!

              No matter than most people fail at IM... I will succeed!

              If you are going to succeed you have to place the responsibility of your success on "I" not on someone's system... and not in anyone's system.

              And just so you know, virtually EVERYONE starts off with a low CTR and horrible amount of traffic. What separates those who make crazy amounts of income online versus those who constantly struggle is this.

              Those who win made the commitment to win when their CTR was 0.5% and they were getting 1 visitor a day, and they had read 132 threads and bought a dozen ebooks and still hadn't made $0.25 cents to speak of!

              This system that internetmarketer99 teaches in this thread works. The question is, "Are you going to stick with it UNTIL YOU WIN!!! :rolleyes:


              P.S. If you only have 20 backlinks in 7 weeks, you're definitely doing something wrong!

              What you need to do is develop a system whether you are monetizing with Adsense, CPA offers, Clickbank, Amazon, Ebay, Paydotcom, PPC, Banner advertising, etc.

              That is another KEY element that successful IMer's all employ. No system means no success!

              Just reading your comments makes it clear that you don't have a system. For example, you state that it takes Google 5 weeks to find a backlink for EZA... that is totally incorrect.

              You can post an article to EZA, push the EZA RSS feed button, bookmark the article to the top SB sites and RSS Feed aggregators and be indexed and counted for within a few hours.


              Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

              Here's my experience so far (after about 7 weeks of having 4 sites running using most of the suggested method) . . .

              On the income per click, yes, following the advice of finding high-CPC keyword groups, I am getting about $1 per click. But that's my only "success" so far with this system . . .

              On click-through, I am getting about half a percent, ie. a tenth of what is said to be possible. No idea why this is . . . I am using the BlueSense theme and doing approximately 300 word articles that are fairly mediocre and obvious in content, so no idea why doing exactly what the method says produces results that are a tenth of what they "should" be. If anyone here is getting anything like the 5 to 10% click-through quoted, I would very much appreciate you having a quick look at my sites and telling me what I am doing wrong (please PM me, thanks!).

              As for visitors . . . I've had 4 sites up for about 7 weeks now, and was getting a handful of visitors a day until last week, when all those sites dropped to an average of only about 1 visitor a day. I guess Google changed my sites from being categorised as "new" to not-new, and so they dropped in ranking. So far I've posted a new Page or Post nearly every day, Dug and Stumbled all of them within a few days of posting, and submitted to EZA and GoArticles within a few days of a page or post being indexed by Google. I also posted a bunch of posts in relevant GoogleGroups (Google doesn't seem to count YahooGroups posts as backlinks at all!) and done some commenting via CommentKahuna, and commenting on Blogs via a Google search. So I guess it takes many months to get any kind of reasonable traffic. I have only just disovered UAW, so hopefully will speed up my backlink numbers (my best site has twenty-something backlinks now, after 7 weeks), but of course that costs money, so it looks like I'll be making a loss for at least a few months before the backlinks build up enough to give me decent amounts of traffic. I have found that Google takes at least 5 weeks to find a back-link for the EZA and Digg, and even slower for anything else.

              As with every other system I've found or bought, the reality is nothing like what's promissed, not even a tenth of what is said to be attainable. Whether the guy who started the thread was exagerating hugely to get customers for his product, or what, I am not sure.
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              • Profile picture of the author bfas
                Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

                As a person who is succeeding with Adsense, I'm reading you post shaking my head, saying to myself, "He doesn't get!!! He just doesn't get! Not ending with your comments."

                To succeed at Internet Marketing you must have a, "I will succeed mentality!" That means no matter what...

                No matter that my current traffic is low.. I will get it to increase!

                NO matter that my CTR is 0.5%... I will get it to increase!

                No matter that I'm using a bland WP Theme... I will switch it to a better theme!

                No matter that I'm making mistakes... I will admit them and move on!

                No matter than most people fail at IM... I will succeed!

                If you are going to succeed you have to place the responsibility of your success on "I" not on someone's system... and not in anyone's system.

                And just so you know, virtually EVERYONE starts off with a low CTR and horrible amount of traffic. What separates those who make crazy amounts of income online versus those who constantly struggle is this.

                Those who win made the commitment to win when their CTR was 0.5% and they were getting 1 visitor a day, and they had read 132 threads and bought a dozen ebooks and still hadn't made $0.25 cents to speak of!

                This system that internetmarketer99 teaches in this thread works. The question is, "Are you going to stick with it UNTIL YOU WIN!!! :rolleyes:


                P.S. If you only have 20 backlinks in 7 weeks, you're definitely doing something wrong!

                What you need to do is develop a system whether you are monetizing with Adsense, CPA offers, Clickbank, Amazon, Ebay, Paydotcom, PPC, Banner advertising, etc.

                That is another KEY element that successful IMer's all employ. No system means no success!

                Just reading your comments makes it clear that you don't have a system. For example, you state that it takes Google 5 weeks to find a backlink for EZA... that is totally incorrect.

                You can post an article to EZA, push the EZA RSS feed button, bookmark the article to the top SB sites and RSS Feed aggregators and be indexed and counted for within a few hours.
                I have to agree wholeheartedly with CrewChief. I have followed this thread and system virtually to a "T", and not only done very well, but have proven for myself almost everything that was stated in the OP.

                As with anything, circumstances vary, and I've learned a great deal over time, so there are areas where I've tweaked and experimented, but I have to say on the whole, this is A1 top-drawer stuff.

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  • Nofearman, here's a 'quick & dirty' assessment of what I see when I analyze your site:

    First, it's visually well done and attractive. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how well the site does. Sometimes it's a benefit, sometimes a it's actually a disadvantage, particularly if your focus is Adsense.

    Second, the homepage is targeting about 10 keyword/phrases, most of which do not appear in the domain name.

    Third, when I go to an individual page (I only looked at the first article), you are targeting 5 keyword/phrases, only 2 of which are in the page title, and only 3 in the domain name. One of them appears in neither the domain name or page title.

    Fourth, the Search box and SB widget are taking up valuable real estate above the fold, yet do nothing either for ranking or direct revenue - in fact, they push ads below the fold.

    Fourth, your header, while very nice, takes up a LOT of the most valuable real estate on the page.

    Fifth, your title tag is displaying in type above the header.

    Sixth, there is no internal linking or navigation from sub-pages.

    Seventh, no 'privacy policy' or 'contact' page - violation of Adsense TOS.

    As far as MNF - or any other tool - you should always 'reality check' with a second tool before you start devoting a lot of time or resources. If 'm using MNF initially, and find a good 'candidate', I'll drop the keyword/phrase in Wordtracker or SEOBook to gauge if it's one of those way-off numbers.

    Also, while SOC is nice, I routinely come across keyword/phrases with super-low (single digit) SOC's where the Top 10 are nearly unassailable. Again, before putting in the time & effort, do a broad-match search (no quotes) on the phrase. Unless the bottom-half of the first page are relatively 'weak' sites, it makes no sense to proceed. If you can't get on Page 1, it isn't worth pursuing.

    Conversely, I've found plenty of high SOC phrases that were easy pickings.

    I don't mean any of that as a personal criticism, and hope it doesn't come off that way. These are just a few of the things that caught my eye.

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    • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      Seventh, no 'privacy policy' or 'contact' page - violation of Adsense TOS.
      Is this true? I thought that was only for Adwords.

      If true, I'm in trouble. Not one of my sites has a privacy policy, and very few have a contact page.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

      Nofearman, here's a 'quick & dirty' assessment of what I see when I analyze your site:

      First, it's visually well done and attractive. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how well the site does. Sometimes it's a benefit, sometimes a it's actually a disadvantage, particularly if your focus is Adsense.

      Second, the homepage is targeting about 10 keyword/phrases, most of which do not appear in the domain name.

      Third, when I go to an individual page (I only looked at the first article), you are targeting 5 keyword/phrases, only 2 of which are in the page title, and only 3 in the domain name. One of them appears in neither the domain name or page title.

      Fourth, the Search box and SB widget are taking up valuable real estate above the fold, yet do nothing either for ranking or direct revenue - in fact, they push ads below the fold.

      Fourth, your header, while very nice, takes up a LOT of the most valuable real estate on the page.

      Fifth, your title tag is displaying in type above the header.

      Sixth, there is no internal linking or navigation from sub-pages.

      Seventh, no 'privacy policy' or 'contact' page - violation of Adsense TOS.

      As far as MNF - or any other tool - you should always 'reality check' with a second tool before you start devoting a lot of time or resources. If 'm using MNF initially, and find a good 'candidate', I'll drop the keyword/phrase in Wordtracker or SEOBook to gauge if it's one of those way-off numbers.

      Also, while SOC is nice, I routinely come across keyword/phrases with super-low (single digit) SOC's where the Top 10 are nearly unassailable. Again, before putting in the time & effort, do a broad-match search (no quotes) on the phrase. Unless the bottom-half of the first page are relatively 'weak' sites, it makes no sense to proceed. If you can't get on Page 1, it isn't worth pursuing.

      Conversely, I've found plenty of high SOC phrases that were easy pickings.

      I don't mean any of that as a personal criticism, and hope it doesn't come off that way. These are just a few of the things that caught my eye.

      Mark
      internetmarketer99,

      First, absolutely don't take it personal, on the contrary exactly what I was looking for. I am coming from a very different world of high end shopping carts where the mentality, and not much choice, is to get as many major keyword rankings as possible. So, I've only been in niche site building for a couple months. And, you are right, I need to resist being keyword greedy. But, after 13 years of getting my site ranked for hundreds of keywords, the temptation to be a keyword pig is hard to fight. But, your critique is awesome!

      The other sites I setup are more inline with your advice, simple, no wasted real estate and single keyword concentration as in this one:
      Losing Weight Tips: How to Lose Weight in a Week - Home

      I had to add diet on the end for URL availability.

      I am going to per your recommendation start using the Blue Sense WP template.

      I did have one question on one of your comments, not quite sure what you meant by:
      "As far as MNF - or any other tool - you should always 'reality check' with a second tool before you start devoting a lot of time or resources. If 'm using MNF initially, and find a good 'candidate', I'll drop the keyword/phrase in Wordtracker or SEOBook to gauge if it's one of those way-off numbers." <- Do you mean you will check the actual monthly search numbers?

      AND, also:
      "Also, while SOC is nice, I routinely come across keyword/phrases with super-low (single digit) SOC's where the Top 10 are nearly unassailable. Again, before putting in the time & effort, do a broad-match search (no quotes) on the phrase. Unless the bottom-half of the first page are relatively 'weak' sites" <- how would you confirm if the lower Five on the first SERP are "weak" enough for me to decide ot follwo through and commit to that keyword phrase?

      THANKS AGAIN! You're a great help.
      Kevin
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      • Profile picture of the author warrior123
        Originally Posted by nofearman View Post


        I did have one question on one of your comments, not quite sure what you meant by:
        "As far as MNF - or any other tool - you should always 'reality check' with a second tool before you start devoting a lot of time or resources. If 'm using MNF initially, and find a good 'candidate', I'll drop the keyword/phrase in Wordtracker or SEOBook to gauge if it's one of those way-off numbers." <- Do you mean you will check the actual monthly search numbers?

        AND, also:
        "Also, while SOC is nice, I routinely come across keyword/phrases with super-low (single digit) SOC's where the Top 10 are nearly unassailable. Again, before putting in the time & effort, do a broad-match search (no quotes) on the phrase. Unless the bottom-half of the first page are relatively 'weak' sites" <- how would you confirm if the lower Five on the first SERP are "weak" enough for me to decide ot follwo through and commit to that keyword phrase?

        THANKS AGAIN! You're a great help.
        Kevin
        I have found no tool is 100% accurate in telling you how strong the competition is on the front page. You basically still want to manually check the first 3 spots and if the pages are PR4+ with an aged domain you might as well move on and go for easier terms.

        Unless the term has a ton of traffic you won't see much action sitting toward the bottom of the SERPs.
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        • Profile picture of the author tradewiser
          Hi Mark,

          Thanks for a really informative thread. Contributions made by you and Xfactor (+ his course) are what really made this business model click for me and make me money.

          Sorry if this has been asked before but from your experience what are the differences in strategy and results between Adsense sites developed for physical products (e.g sofa) and service/digital product based sites (e.g. forex) ?
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          • Originally Posted by tradewiser View Post

            Hi Mark,

            Thanks for a really informative thread. Contributions made by you and Xfactor (+ his course) are what really made this business model click for me and make me money.

            Sorry if this has been asked before but from your experience what are the differences in strategy and results between Adsense sites developed for physical products (e.g sofa) and service/digital product based sites (e.g. forex) ?
            Great question - they are actually very different strategies, and those who fail to realize this generally don't achieve good results and don't understand why. Often someone will have some moderate success with one type of site, accidentally, and not realize that it may not be 'transferable' to their other efforts.

            I think I did a thread about this once. In order to achieve good results, you want your site to 'reflect' the profile of the searcher - that is, you want someone who sees your site listed in the SERP query and clicks on it, to feel like they landed in the 'right' place.

            The 'right' site for a product-related query is going to look and feel much different from the 'right' site for an informational query, even to the same person.

            What I do for all my sites is to try and create a mental 'profile' of the person that is landing there. Specifically, what are the keyword/phrases that I'm ranking for, meaning what did they type in to get my site listed in their SERP?

            For a product-centric site, it might be something like "best charcoal barbeque grill". When someone clicks on a site brought up by that query, they're expecting to see some pictures, perhaps prices, probably a list of mfg.'s and models, etc.

            If they see that, they'll feel they landed on a 'right' page.

            On the other hand, if my target keyword/phrase is "day trading strategy", the 'right' page will more text-heavy, and a 'product-looking' site isn't going to feel 'right'.

            In either case, it will look like it provides an answer to the query, and in both cases, if I've really done my homework well, the other listings, topics, headings, etc., - the navigation links - are the other keyword/phrases I'm targeting.

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            • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
              Hi Mark

              Just spent an hour (or so) going through the whole thread. You have some excellent stuff here.

              Well done and keep up the great communication.

              Regards

              Bron
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            • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

              The 'right' site for a product-related query is going to look and feel much different from the 'right' site for an informational query, even to the same person.
              Very true.
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            • Profile picture of the author nofearman
              internetmarketer99 ,
              Did you get my PM ?
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              • Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

                internetmarketer99 ,
                Did you get my PM ?
                I somehow missed it earlier, but have just PM'd you a reply.

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                • Profile picture of the author nofearman
                  Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                  I somehow missed it earlier, but have just PM'd you a reply.

                  Mark
                  Mark,
                  whatever happened to you? Was really interested in your adsense site setup service. Do you know anyone else that does this??
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                  • Profile picture of the author rajsidhux
                    I would like to ask all readers of this great post, especially internetmarketer99, a quick question if I may.

                    Is anyone putting up sites, getting them indexed by google and then after say 3 - 4 weeks having the sites drop somewhere in the hundreds - NOT DEINDEXED THOUGH?

                    If anyone has experienced this I wold relly like to hear your experiences and how you overcame or tackled them.

                    Thanks guys.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Laura B
                      This roller coaster ride will happen with new sites. It may take a few months for your rank to stabilize somewhat in the SERPs. Just be patient, keep working on the sites, and they'll come back.
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                    • Profile picture of the author jayveen
                      Heh. That just happened to me, for the third time. I've had many sites get on the first page of Google, but three of them fell off, completely, of the top 200. Two of the sites I've gotten back, both to the first page, while the third site is still off the top 200. I did some routine maintenance on all of them, like putting links from the category posts to the main site, stuff like that, but I think a big part of it is just that damn Google dance. Its really strange, and I still haven't figured out exactly what it is that causes things to drop or causes things to get back to the first page.
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          Originally Posted by warrior123 View Post

          I have found no tool is 100% accurate in telling you how strong the competition is on the front page. You basically still want to manually check the first 3 spots and if the pages are PR4+ with an aged domain you might as well move on and go for easier terms.

          Unless the term has a ton of traffic you won't see much action sitting toward the bottom of the SERPs.
          Thanks, got it!
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  • Profile picture of the author THY
    Excellent guide. But I have two important questions to ask. Nowadays I've seen Ad Block Plus gaining popularity. Has that been taken into consideration what the effect might be in the future? Somehow with 5% conversion rate, that is somehow considered quite high. The reason why I say that is because more and more people have started to become ad blind.
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  • As per Google's AdSense TOS:

    AdSense publishers must have and abide by a privacy policy that discloses that third parties may be placing and reading cookies on your users' browsers, or using web beacons to collect information as a result of ad serving on your website.

    FYI, here is a 'quick & dirty' summary of TOS:

    https://google.com/adsense/support/b...n&answer=48182

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  • THY, it's a big world out there. You have been able to get television commercial zappers for many years. When they first started to have such things, there was a brief, expected, "What will happen to television and advertisers", but of course nothing came of it.

    Consider that Google had a profit of $4.2 billion dollars in 2008. The vast majority of that comes from advertising. It isn't likely to be in jeopardy any time soon, nor do analysts or experts believe it to be.

    Do people become more immune to advertising? Sure. Does that impact us? If anything, it insures a Darwinian 'survival of the fittest' that allows those who work to stay on top of their game to continue to do so.

    I think you're pretty safe

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Thanks very much for valuable info . . . I've already found a keyword group of 8 phrases, average CPC about $10, average phrase searches about 3000, average google results about 15,000. I am very excited to try this out later today!

    For my URL should I use the best-paying keyphrase (with dashes) of the 8, which is a reasonable match to the whole niche, or the most exact match (with dashes) to the whole niche, which pays about half as much? I can't define the niche concept well with less than 4 words, so I presume using dashes is better than one long confusing multi-word?

    You said "What we want is for that target visitor to see our listing in Google (this is where your "meta description" is so important)" . . . where is Meta-description done in a WordPress Blog (I'll be using BlueSense theme as you recommend, and I presume All-In-One-SEO-pack is good to use, right?)? And what to say in whatever generates the meta-description . . . how to use keyphrases etc. in it?

    Also, I read on another forum here that you shouldn't put the same keywords in the title and in the tags, if I understand correctly. Is that right? So should one use Tags (such as "SimpleTags), and if so, what tags to enter, how many etc.?

    And if I understand correctly, another comment of yours said you shouldn't use Categories at all, right? So all posts should be "Uncategorised"?

    I am a bit new to all this, I've been using All-In-One-SEO-pack and Simple-Tags for other WordPress projects . . . how to use those (or something better?) to optimise Blog Pages and Posts for getting results with your method?

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author hslopez
      Mark,

      I've been reading this thread and I was convince with all the good things you shared on this thread so I'm giving it a try. I'm putting up a my web site for adsense.

      Are you still using the UAW up to now? Is it really worth it? I ask this because I'm about to purchase my subscription with them.

      Thanks,
      Hearti
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      • Profile picture of the author cdicicco
        Hello mark, I need to get in contact with you either through PM or email so please respond ASAP. I have tried both cannot get in touch with you.

        Thanks,

        Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author icyimp
    Awesome information, thanks for the BlueSense adwice, I was trying to choose the beast one for a client's mortgage site. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmy506
      Originally Posted by peterum02 View Post

      choose a 300x250 for best ads and most expensive ads in the niche
      place it in the middle of your site where it most viewable when people open your page
      A lot of people say to use one 300x250 ad per page. Right in the middle...

      I've seen some narrow templates like AdFlex that to this. I'm guessing that xfactor templates use similar ones.

      Is this a good idea? Not using using sidebar ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author acgcoug
    Thanks for all the information. I gotta admit, I am in a stage of information overkill right now. I have intentions of building more sites, but am struggling just learning how to build one. I too have intentions of using adsense to make a little money, but mostly to cover my host costs. I will be referencing this post again in future, thanks again.
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    • Profile picture of the author cdicicco
      Hello Mark, I have been trying to get in touch with you for some time now in regards to the site I purchased from you a month ago. Will you please respond to me by cell phone (which I supplied to you by email) or through here asap?
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      • Profile picture of the author nofearman
        Originally Posted by cdicicco View Post

        Hello Mark, I have been trying to get in touch with you for some time now in regards to the site I purchased from you a month ago. Will you please respond to me by cell phone (which I supplied to you by email) or through here asap?
        I don't think he's responding to this thread anymore. I've seen him in other threads but for whatever reason he won't respond here. He was suppose to send me info about his program for setting Adsense sites, but have not been able to get a response from him. Because I am so busy with all my e-commerce sites it was worth it for me to pay someone to setup the sites as his program advertised.
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        • Profile picture of the author spin
          Excellent thread, I read the whole thing non stop. Awesome, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author warkreech
    that was a very informative post. and i think there's no harm in applying these suggestions. good post!
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    • Profile picture of the author mojo13
      Originally Posted by warrich View Post

      in adsense all are the important is cpm and impression
      Stop posting this non-informative crap and padding your post count.
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  • Profile picture of the author ztws
    In Traffic Travis, how do you find the backlink values for sites? I've been trying to find the right place to do it and I can't seem to locate it. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevereed1968
    Hi

    My first post, these threads are fantastic, thanks so much for the wealth of info.

    I have found some good keywords, one with an LSV of 6600 pm for exact match, exact phrase count of 11500 and SOC of only 4. Got to do some more delving before settling on it. The keyword phrase has a city in the phrase, there are a number of phrases the same but with different city names. However, I cant find a good umbrella phrase as a main page for the site.

    Does the idea of just creating pages for each phrase with city name seem like a reasonable idea, bearing in find that I'd have to use one of the phrases with city name as my domain name. I guess I'm really trying to get each page ranked on it's own merits revolving around a single phrase, so it might be a goer.

    Your view appreciated

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Allen
    I think that I already all the tools that I need that you described in this post and actually I was thinking of performing this process with wordpress.

    Thank you for this insight. I see that I can definitely start generating some income today.

    Oliver Allen
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  • Profile picture of the author madpoet
    Yeah, pity Mark turned out to be a scammer.
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    • Profile picture of the author spin
      Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

      Yeah, pity Mark turned out to be a scammer.
      I assume Mark was or is internetmarketer99?

      edit: NM I went back to beginning and reread, yes he is. I also just noticed he has been Banned. Not to complain but might be a nice thing to have a script that posts across banned members threads that individual has been banned in red bold caps or at least in large red bold caps to the left under profile name. If he were selling something with a write-up like he had here - I can see people buying it like hot cakes just off the griddle, shh I was going to purchase but couldn't find the product....LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
      Originally Posted by madpoet View Post

      Yeah, pity Mark turned out to be a scammer.
      How is he a scammer?
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      • Profile picture of the author mojo13
        Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

        How is he a scammer?
        Do a search for his WSO he ran.

        More drama than a Days Of Our Lives episode..
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  • Profile picture of the author ELCaD
    Thanks for sharing this. At the moment I am lucky to get 50p a day so any improvement on that would be great!
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  • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
    Did you bother reading the cause of the drama?

    I did not purchase WSO, however I have discussed with him on numerous occasions about his performance. I will vouch for his service anytime because he has guided me in my own "mini" success.

    The reason for the drama (the late delivery) is because of his personal problems that interfered with business. They are sorted out now.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojo13
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      Did you bother reading the cause of the drama?

      I did not purchase WSO, however I have discussed with him on numerous occasions about his performance. I will vouch for his service anytime because he has guided me in my own "mini" success.

      The reason for the drama (the late delivery) is because of his personal problems that interfered with business. They are sorted out now.
      Relax dude... I never said he was a scammer, I just said there was a lot of drama.
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      • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
        Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post

        Relax dude... I never said he was a scammer, I just said there was a lot of drama.
        Hey,

        I never knew my remark came threatening to you. That was not my intention. I was just stating my experience with him.

        You are right about the drama, I looked at the WSO and it looked rather nasty. I hope he figures it out because it seems like there are a lot of pissed of customers.
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        • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
          Any new update on you Adsense journey Hamburglar? I've been following this thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author hamburglar
            Originally Posted by 2d0k View Post

            Any new update on you Adsense journey Hamburglar? I've been following this thread.
            Hey,

            There is. I updated my thread. On saturday I hit $27/day my highest ever. Yesterday I hit $21/day. I am avg about $14/day this month. Back in Oct (first month) I avged about .25/day. So a long ways I have come but more to go.

            I made a new design template that converts really well and have a great way of getting niches.

            I hired a content writer and have the whole process automated except for KW research.

            thats it in a nutshell.
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            • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
              Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

              Hey,

              There is. I updated my thread. On saturday I hit $27/day my highest ever. Yesterday I hit $21/day. I am avg about $14/day this month. Back in Oct (first month) I avged about .25/day. So a long ways I have come but more to go.

              I made a new design template that converts really well and have a great way of getting niches.

              I hired a content writer and have the whole process automated except for KW research.

              thats it in a nutshell.
              Wow! $27/day.. Way to go.. I'm still at $5/day. Kind of low.. However, a thread like this keeps me going.. When my spirits are low I just go back here and other similar threads and reread each and every one's journey to Adsense success..

              Thank you and Keep it up..
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

      The reason for the drama (the late delivery) is because of his personal problems that interfered with business. They are sorted out now.
      What have you been smoking dude?


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  • Profile picture of the author slazer90
    Thanks you for this post! Very good information and I needed a template like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author dknyrob
    Great Job.... Big improvement.... I also had a $31 dollar day the other day which was my highest since back when I first started years back at $24... after getting xfractor's book I now about the same as you 15 dollars a day with about 25 sites in counting... Keep it up hamburglar
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    • Profile picture of the author spin
      27 bucks a day, thats really good. I have 1200 - 3000 uniques visitors a day. A average day for me is about 50 cents with many days producing nothing. Once in a blue moon I get a buck or two and I mean once in a blue moon. I'm at the point that adsense is pointless, lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    How do you guys determine the SoC? Do you just look at the number of competing pages?

    I've used Market Samurai, but after double checking everything I found out that in some cases it's way off.
    I haven't used MNF yet but I might try it out.

    @Stallion:
    I've been following your "journey" on this thread. Any new updates?

    -Heimir
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  • Profile picture of the author rommelgm
    Hi Mark

    Just spent a lot of tiem going through the whole thread. Awesome stuff here.

    Regards

    Rommel
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  • Profile picture of the author Inside Wholesale
    Very Very helpfull, i might try something like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author lilian929
    wow, this thread is very informative and great, it teaches how an average beginner can maximize his income from the Adsense program and even make an out standing revenue of 100+$$ a day !! thanks , keep up the good posts, regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfumer
    Anyone knows what happened to Mark?
    Why did he get banned?
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  • Profile picture of the author Globe_Trotter13
    Perfumer, I'll try my best to summarize why Mark was banned:

    Mark was banned for the following reason:
    Back in early september, he offered a WSO in which he would do all the work and build a nice site from scratch that would make decent income on complete autopilot. He would create the site, do the pre-eliminary research, write 10 unique content on the niche. He claimed he would also do the initial promotion of the site as well as provide us with a cheat sheet and a guideline to follow on daily steps to do to continue making the site even more profitable. All of this for about $200. I signed up as well as a whole bunch of people. He claimed the site would be ready within a week or so. This was again at the beginning of September 2009. I only got my site towards the end of September as opposed to the 1 week time frame he had claimed. I also was among the first people to sign up for his WSO. After that, each time we inquired about when would we receive the remaining parts of the deal such as the articles and above all (at least as far as I'm concerned since that was the main reason I signed up for the deal) the cheat sheet and the daily steps guide, he would respond back stating that within a day or 2, it would be ready. After 2 days, still nothing and that went on for weeks and 2 months later, about 90% of the people that paid for that service, were left with an uncomplete work and emails and inquiries unanswered from him.

    What had happened? He apparently got too greedy and took on way too much work that he could handle by himself. Hence the very big backlog. A few people started losing patience and demanding their money back. The first people that requested it had their money back. Being the extra patient guy that I am among many others who saw the value in this work and were willing to give the guy enough time to complete it, I along a bunch of other very patient people, waited and waited till the very end till Mark completed dissapeared and was subsequently banned from the admin due to too many complaints against him. Now, all of us/those that were patient enough to wait to see the work completed, had of course, gone way over the 45 days window that paypal gives to dispute a transaction and get a refund. Right before he dissapeared from this site, he claimed that he would assist us (those who wanted a refund) with paypal. I tried to email the guy several times at the email address that I purchased that WSO along when initially he would email me with "updates" but again, I haven't heard back from him.

    I really don't know what else can be done to get my 200 bucks back from him. I, along a whole bunch of other Warriors, feel I am being cheated by someone that I trusted due to his quality posts such as the ones in this thread and here I am now, with 200 bucks that I guess I'll have to write it off as a learning lesson/stupid/noobie tax for trusting someone with a few good posts. If any of the ones who still haven't received their money back or those that did receive it, please make yourselves heard and let's brainstorm on how we can recoup our money from that thief. Has anyone heard from Mark lately? Is he really willing to assist us getting our money back as he was claiming before he got banned from here?

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rebecca108
    One question I have about Adwords in general is, once you build an Adwords site, how long term do you think it is? I can see it being worth the work if it's a keeper, but if it sinks down in the search engines after a while, I'd find it harder to keep up my motivation. I guess, how much maintenance is necessary?

    Thanks for all the insight.
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    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
      Rebecca108: I presume you're referring to Adsense sites (not Adwords)?

      In any case, how much maintenance they take really depends on the level and strength of competition.

      Basically, it depends how strong the competition are working to outrank you.

      I'd say, if earning money with Adsense appeals to you, take the time to build up your site(s), and see whats what. See what you make.

      Don't forget that when you get to the point where you're earning a really decent income from your Adsense site(s), you can invest a small portion of your income into some outsourcing so that the maintenance work is carried out on your behalf, and your rankings are maintained.
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  • Profile picture of the author SergeLight
    Thanks for this great post! You really inspired me to dive in the world of adsens
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Chris, you can't judge your CTR if you are only getting 1 visit per day. Don't worry about messing with your template until you are getting 50 to 100 UV a day.

    Across my sites I get a CTR of 7 to 15%. Work on traffic generation first.

    You already have some sites up so pick the easiest keyword you have that you want to rank for and work on it until it gets onto page 1, then move onto the next one. Once you can get some confidence that the system will work then you can look at expanding. A good way to pick a keyword to target is to look at Google Webmaster tools to see which searches your site is appearing in (but not quite high enough to get clicked).

    Just remember, it does take about 3 months before a site really starts to kick in.
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    • Profile picture of the author FivestarHB
      I have read all 556 posts - yep it took me all night whilst dinner was done, kids to bed and the wife gets some relax in front of the tv. Now the finale of this epic tale has been a big let down, to say the least. However I have learned a great deal, and believe there is some good insights in what IM99 has been saying (despite his obvious misdeeds as described by GlobeTrotter et al).

      I have been applying the microniche adsense route for some 6 months or so, using the great ideas of Xfactor (yep, I got his book), Clickbump (yep I got his WPthemes), DrivenFor (got GoogleGrinder too!). They are all variations on a theme, and it is a good theme - find a low competition, high searched, high paying keyword, super-optimise a site for that keyword, build, backlink, rise and repeat.

      IM99 adds value to this conversation by challenging us micronichers to find 10 related keywords, same criteria, and building a a bigger (not-so)micro niche site. I like it. Makes sense. I was a little worried about the "thin-ness" of a single keyword site, and its longevity. Now, I think I can build 10 in one, and aim for a higher daily Adsense take. Also another thread along these lines is http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...K93fsztT171i9g Lisa has a useful book.

      So I am going to go back to my 15 or so Clickbump/Xfactor sites and find 6-10 related keywords with IM99s criteria ("My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes"). Make sure page 1 of the SERPS is not too dominated by authority sites, and build a page for each keyword. Go back and do the basic link building. See if I can build my $4 a day into something worthwhile.

      I may be johnny-come-lately, but I th ink there is some great info in this thread, that IM99 can be proud that he has contributed to the community, notwithstanding the misdemeanours described.
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      • Profile picture of the author HCLee
        Originally Posted by FivestarHB View Post


        So I am going to go back to my 15 or so Clickbump/Xfactor sites and find 6-10 related keywords with IM99s criteria ("My criteria for creating a site are that I can find at least 10 thematically-related keyword/phrases the EACH have at least 50 searches per day (1500/month), and competition under 40,000 (phrase-matched, or in quotes"). Make sure page 1 of the SERPS is not too dominated by authority sites, and build a page for each keyword. Go back and do the basic link building. See if I can build my $4 a day into something worthwhile.
        Another possible way of improving your adsense clicks is to focus on your best 3 to 4 sites that you know are consistent at making money. Then write more pages using high CPC keywords that may not necessary rank high but they must be related to the topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author cloteria
    Did you take some sort of seminar or course? or is this just the result of working in this field for a loooong time?
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Listen to Crew Chief!

    I make good money from Adsense. But the big bucks come from...

    1. My own products
    2. Affiliate links

    If you build these microsites with adsense alone you'll probably make peanuts. But throw in your own eBooks, software or consultancy services etc. etc. and site income could grow by 10x compared to just having adsense alone. Having your own product also makes it easier to get backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenneth Holland
      Hi Mark,

      I see that you can't be PM'd any longer. Can you let me know of the SPEED PPC course you said you recommended earlier in this thread?

      Thanks!

      Ken
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  • Great post! Lot's of useful tips that I'm already playing around with.
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  • Profile picture of the author tipsources
    Thanks for this great post! You really inspired me to dive in the world of adsens
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    i haven't mate
    still stuck in $20 a day here
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    • Profile picture of the author darkonetoo
      Thanks for the insightfull thread and all the great posts!!!

      I realize that I have gold in my own sites that I've not been digging.

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  • Profile picture of the author mowens17
    You dont really specify what type of search numbers, title comp in search etc to target or in your experience what works best, it can be confusing about what to aim for at times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

    How YOU can REALLY reach $100/day + w/Adsense!

    Now create your content. You want to target ONLY 1 keyword per page. Use that keyword in the title and H1 tags (if you're using Wordpress, put it in the post title - that's your H1 tag).
    Actually, Post titles are h3 tags in wordpress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
      Originally Posted by friend View Post

      Actually, Post titles are h3 tags in wordpress.
      Actually they are different for different themes. All of mine are H1. But I'm not sure that it actually matters what size heading you use...so long as you use one with the primary keyword you're targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author pennywrites
    This is amazingly helpful information. Thanks for the post and also to those who have added by adding questions and comments. Keyword searches are vitally important and really confusing. Every guru has different advice. I do make money with Adsense but only pennies per click. I will definitely try your plan.

    I use eLert Gadget for blogging and article posts. It is connected to Google and is part of the desk-top options from Google gadgets. Have you any experience with this? You can post to WP, and all the biggies all at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author kgloh23
    Yes, making $100/day from adsense is possible. I had see $0.50 for 2 clicks in my site. But the problem I have is no traffic. If I can get 5000 thousands visitor per day, it will become reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author mariahm
    Thanks for this post. You have a wicked way of explaining.

    I follow pretty much the same steps as you and I can say that it does work.
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  • Profile picture of the author mascomasco
    Wow,what a wonderful post here.Good information,quick support and nice responses.Thanks a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author victoriakeenato
    I do this, but I divert traffic to my site clicks that have higher value. When they come to my site I say, &quot;Hey, you look, but I also found this on another site.&quot;
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjotello
    Thanks for the informative post Mark. A question about your target keywords: When you say 50 per day or $ 100 per day, which means that broad match or exact?
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  • Profile picture of the author Duc
    Thanks for this great thread. I am still a newbie but what I read again and again is that adsense is not the best way to monetize your traffic.

    - List building
    - Selling your own products
    - Promoting CPA and Affiliate products seem to be the methods of choice.

    They, however, require additional work, which would speak for adsense as a business model per se.

    I am still trying to figure out the best strategy for myself. Right now this is my plan.
    1. Building a bunch of Adsense site (10)
    2. Get them ranked
    3. Pick the best 3 sites and add optin
    4. Sell the unprofitable ones
    5. Testing and optimizing the best sites for conversion
    6. Promote related products to list

    I guess with this strategy one could earn a decent income online. Thanks again for the great insights.
    Cheers, Duc
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  • Profile picture of the author superSEO2011
    Hey thanks for this post to the op

    But is he banned now?
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    • Profile picture of the author billo
      ya i found nothing please post original link
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  • Profile picture of the author superSEO2011
    Has anyone actually made $100 or anything with this method? Would like to know!
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  • Profile picture of the author Albern
    Hi, thank you so much for this great and useful information.
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  • Profile picture of the author fannyballard
    Thanks for the informative post Mark. A question about your target keywords: When you say 50 per day or $ 100 per day, which means that broad match or exact?
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  • Profile picture of the author iresh
    Great article Thank You very much, i also wandered about this things for while so thank you again
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  • Profile picture of the author Autobot
    This is the root of all internet marketing: KEYWORD RESEARCH!

    Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

    ...good stuff..
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  • Profile picture of the author networm
    I love reading the article... This is my first step to Adsense, I just get approved. I already earned $4 within few days after the approval.

    Now, I'm starting to build my first Adsense site...
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  • Profile picture of the author Soulofinfamy
    Yea it's amazing how the secret to making money really is just doing something!
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  • Profile picture of the author richeerich
    thanks for sharing, i thought stuff like this you would keep secret. glad u haven't ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author chinedu86
    The OP has been banned,i wonder why.Can anyone point me to a site using the BlueSense theme,i want to see what it looks like and is there any best converting adsense theme at all?
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    • Profile picture of the author zoeguy
      Originally Posted by chinedu86 View Post

      The OP has been banned,i wonder why.Can anyone point me to a site using the BlueSense theme,i want to see what it looks like and is there any best converting adsense theme at all?
      Recommend that you do some creative Googling: CTR theme vs Clickbump etc etc

      For example:
      CTR theme Clickbump site:warriorforum.com - Google Search

      Eppie Vojt's CTR theme & Clickbump's "clickmagnet" theme appear to be the most popular.

      Some interesting quotes from other threads:

      Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

      The course is weak when it comes to discussing the best ad layout.....it pretty much doesn't. They say it is very important, and that they have done a lot of testing, tweaking, retesting and optimizing to get things just right. It says you need to do what they do to get their results, but then they don't tell you what it is they're doing to get 8%-50% CTRs. I can tell you the WP template they provide isn't it. In my experience using it on several sites over the past year or more, the CTR is terrible. Overall though, it's a decent product. If you do what it says, you should eventually see some success.
      Originally Posted by coopthadaawg View Post

      If you haven't picked up CTR theme I can definitely vouch for it.. My income has gone from $5 per day to $10-30 each day.. And CTR is almost always double digits..
      Originally Posted by John Williamson View Post

      Forgot to mention that prior to Clickbump I had tried HeatMap, BlueSense, Thesis, and a few others. My CTR's are now double what they used to be with those themes.
      Originally Posted by Jeremy Banks View Post

      Some of my sites regularly get 25% CTR The most important factor for CTR is the niche, using the EXACT same template and location one niche has a 21% CTR over the last month, the other has 0.51% CTR
      Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

      Niche is definitely important, but in my experience, the most important factor for CTR is getting *ranked* high enough in the SERPS for any of this to matter.
      I can have a 100% CTR but if I'm only getting a couple of visits a day, I'm losing the battle.
      The theme and the on-page optimization it helps enforce, particularly with G's latest round of algo updates, are more important than ever for a site's ability to rank well, particularly in the beginning life cycle stages.
      Some more good threads to read here on the forum:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...iche-site.html

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...nse-theme.html

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ghest-ctr.html
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  • Profile picture of the author dpiper
    I want to thank you for your helpful info, plus thanking you'll help me find your post again, easily, for referrence.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Nice tips, the key that is worth repeating is the keyword research to find these profitable niches
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  • Profile picture of the author shanewhite203
    If you like 10 sentences of loans to students who meet the criteria (over 100 searches for phrases with less than 20,000 of the competition), how to decide which is the primary key for the direction and you just have to write?
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  • Profile picture of the author arshavin
    What type of budget do you need at first for the cpc? I know the answer to this varies greatly. Just give a ballpark figure if possible please.
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  • Profile picture of the author gforces
    I think I have got to spend a day or two reading through this thread and learning about this Adsense and PPC stuff. I am not fully understanding it as yet so I have a day (at least) of study ahead of me.
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  • Profile picture of the author highave1
    Wow!! such a beneficial post. I looked for...
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  • Profile picture of the author srinu
    good posting ... thanks for sharing your experience
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  • Profile picture of the author arshavin
    for the search numbers. are we ok with global or must it be local?

    Also say i find a keyword and i search for it in google with "ikhi" and it comes up with big results like a million. Should i stay away from this?
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  • Profile picture of the author arshavin
    I am using niche finder to search through results.

    There is a CPC field for each keyword. Is this the amount id recieve roughly for each click i received?
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    I think it should be clear by now with all the Adsense making methods that there really aren't any magic bullets with making money from Adsense.

    It's all about:

    Keyword research (THE BIG ONE!)
    Finding keywords that you can rank for AND which are commercial in nature. So many people miss this second criteria.

    Content Creation
    Best quality for lowest cost.

    Backlinking
    Having knowledge and means of getting effective backlinks EVERY time. This does NOT mean submitting an article to Ezines or bookmarking a few places.

    Optimizing for max CTR
    I consistantly get CTRs of 10%-20% and I don't use any of those cookie cutter ugly Adsense sites. CTR has as much to do with keyword research and content as it has to to with design.

    It's really all there is too it, but many people fail to realize that there is competition in everything and you have to figure out how to beat out the thousands who also go for the same keywords.

    Also, I think most niches will get higher EPC with affiliate links and that Adsense is really only best for niches with no physical product.
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  • Profile picture of the author shubh9795
    very impressive tips. I just find this keyword research thing a little hectic. Any one can suggest me any easier way to do this research thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author speedbird
    I must say that that this thread has really opened my eyes. I am thinking of building niche sites and I will definitely use your plan as a blueprint to start with.
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  • Profile picture of the author PrimaDNA1989
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    Originally Posted by speedbird View Post

    I must say that that this thread has really opened my eyes. I am thinking of building niche sites and I will definitely use your plan as a blueprint to start with.
    I agree. Eye opening and this will help me keep an eye on how my projects are going since I have hired some others to do my sites. Appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author apnavarun
    I wonder if this a correct way to earn through adsense. I don't know any good site with these Strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author finucpa
    I think a certain company or brand buying advertising with a network like Adsense and how can you determine which ad network they are using if they are?

    You can run a Google search to try to find links from an ad on a page, but that may not show up for an indexed page within Google. It's a tricky problem. I would honestly go the direct approach. See if the company has a PR representative, PR agency, etc. Then contact them and make an inquiry. They may not tell you because they may not want competitors knowing where they are placing their ads, but if you can emphasis that you are not a major competitor then they may open up if you speak nicely.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hrkjds
    Nice thread. Very informative.This is what anyone may want to try.
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    Thank you for your sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    You can't do this easily... and WITHOUT breaking at least one rule... Your blog should have millions of visitors and they still are NOT going to click on your ads... So you should place your ad on a place to be clicked... Which is prohibited by Google to "ask" or "point" your visitors to click!
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    Great read, thanks.
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