How important are forum backlinks for SEO?

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Hey everybody. I was just wondering if you could tell me how important forum backlinks are for building up your SEO? I know that it is going to take time for them to get indexed and that it may take 1000's of them to make any real difference but I was hoping to get some feedback from the people that have already done this. I did get a good spike in my traffic today but that may be from a 2000 word article that I spent a few hours writing last night and would like to know the best ways to keep increasing my traffic so that I could make more than just a $.01 a day from adsense. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
      Yeah. I just love the WarriorForum and think it is probably the best one that I have ever seen. I was just wondering because I always see alot of the same people on here and some of them already have 1000's of posts? Is this just a good indicator of what really works in building up your SEO or is it just another Facebook? Could it be alot of both
      Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z View Post

      I did with webmaster forums and Garden niche, however it just helped a little bit to boost in SERP. Finding forums with signtaure in relevant niche is tough.
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    • Profile picture of the author mjoshua
      It gets harder all the time to find forums that allow links in the signature - but they are out there. and I have found that forum backlinks provide a quicker result than many other places. Since people are actually reading about the subject - anyone clicking on your signature link is pretty well targeted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Olympio
    Because you get good spike , continue to work hard. Don't make black seo that is violate google rules. If you do that you will lose one day all your hard work. Work on seo requires a lot time but it will pay you later

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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I recommend you see forum backlinks as a form of traffic source instead of SEO. Treat it as a source of traffic, and not SEO.

    You would get only a tiny boost in SEO results (if forum is relevant to your sites) if you post a lot of posts on forums, there are better ways to do SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author dinoenterprise
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I recommend you see forum backlinks as a form of traffic source instead of SEO. Treat it as a source of traffic, and not SEO.

      You would get only a tiny boost in SEO results (if forum is relevant to your sites) if you post a lot of posts on forums, there are better ways to do SEO.
      This is the best analysis I've seen in awhile. It's about relevant traffic to your site, which comes from niche sites like this one. Higher keywords are mostly good for clients to see you're working hard, but not the best indicator of success. What good is page 1 for a useless keyword. The client will catch on that you're ranking for lowly searched keywords and become suspicious.
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    • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I recommend you see forum backlinks as a form of traffic source instead of SEO.
      Forum backlinks as a traffic source? I don't think so.
      Because most of the forum signature links doesn't have lots of traffic and the worst nothing at all.

      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      Treat it as a source of traffic, and not SEO.
      Do you know that forum posting is part of link building and this is also part of off page optimization and this is one of the two factors of SEO.

      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      You would get only a tiny boost in SEO results (if forum is relevant to your sites) if you post a lot of posts on forums, there are better ways to do SEO.
      Too confusing.
      I don't know whether you are in the SEO side or not.
      But in your signature link is SEO company. Great!
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

        Do you know that forum posting is part of link building and this is also part of off page optimization and this is one of the two factors of SEO.
        No, I don't know that. It seems to me that the purpose of forum posting is the exchange of knowledge.

        Usually you're getting a bunch of nofollow links that come from a single site. I just don't understand why you insist on calling this SEO. At best you're deluding yourself, at worst you're peppering your link profile with links of questionable quality.

        There's hundreds of factors to SEO, but you can roughly divide it to two categories: off and on page.
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        • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          No, I don't know that. It seems to me that the purpose of forum posting is the exchange of knowledge.
          Is that only the purpose of forum posting? or there's something else?

          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          I just don't understand why you insist on calling this SEO.
          Insisting? You're the one who said that not me.

          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          At best you're deluding yourself, at worst you're peppering your link profile with links of questionable quality.
          Sorry but my link profile has nothing to do in this thread.
          Kindly don't lead us to unrelated information and just focus on the thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

            Is that only the purpose of forum posting? or there's something else?
            Why do you think these message boards exist, then? Their main purpose can't be signature spam, that's just an annoying side-effect.

            Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

            Insisting? You're the one who said that not me.
            That's cute. Well then, lets just copy your exact words here so that you can't complain on the words I use:
            "Do you know that forum posting is part of link building and this is also part of off page optimization and this is one of the two factors of SEO."

            To summarize: you claimed that forum posting is link building, "page optimization" whatever that's supposed to even mean, and "one of the two factors of SEO". That sentence is so full of fail that it's hard to even begin with it.

            Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

            Sorry but my link profile has nothing to do in this thread.
            Kindly don't lead us to unrelated information and just focus on the thread.
            "You" is a passive form that's popular in US. It doesn't refer to any particular link profile. I'm not sure why on earth you'd bring such a non sequitur up, and then complain about not focusing on the thread.
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            • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
              Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

              Why do you think these message boards exist, then? Their main purpose can't be signature spam, that's just an annoying side-effect.
              But in reality signature spam is all over the forum sites.

              Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

              That's cute.
              Well, I already knew that.

              Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

              To summarize: you claimed that forum posting is link building, "page optimization" whatever that's supposed to even mean, and "one of the two factors of SEO". That sentence is so full of fail that it's hard to even begin with it.
              But that's what's happening today in SEO.
              Reality it is. Don't act like a blind.

              Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

              "You" is a passive form that's popular in US. It doesn't refer to any particular link profile. I'm not sure why on earth you'd bring such a non sequitur up, and then complain about not focusing on the thread.
              So do you think you are the genius or expert here? You are always right?
              Or a wanna be?
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              • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
                Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

                But in reality signature spam is all over the forum sites.
                That's fits exactly what I said: it's an annoying side effect. It's not the main purpose of any real forum. This is obvious and a sort of truism, and I can't fathom how this can be so hard to understand.

                Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

                But that's what's happening today in SEO.
                Reality it is. Don't act like a blind.
                No, it's not SEO. In the form it's discussed here it's just worthless and a waste of time. There's a bunch of newbies who don't know better, and some hustlers who are trying to con clueless marks.

                Then there's black hats who can and will make something like this work, but that's not the Fiverr gig or human bot posting on WF. That's completely different topic.

                Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

                So do you think you are the genius or expert here? You are always right?
                Or a wanna be?
                It's a bit mystifying why you'd post such a stupid quip after you've been demonstrably wrong on something.
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                • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
                  Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

                  It's a bit mystifying why you'd post such a stupid quip after you've been demonstrably wrong on something.
                  Is it stupid to tell the truth regarding on what's really happening on SEO today?
                  What's wrong with the reality in SEO?
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                  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
                    Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

                    Is it stupid to tell the truth regarding on what's really happening on SEO today?
                    What's wrong with the reality in SEO?
                    No. You're running your mouth on completely unrelated stuff. The bit I'm talking about was your childish "So do you think you are the genius or expert here?" bit.

                    Do you have an acute amnesia or how is it possible that you don't remember anything you've said? Or are you just really fond of twisting words to the point of total dishonesty?

                    Also, even if I disregard that mindbogglingly silly stuff the truth value of your posts is zero. And you don't even realize that, but keep patting yourself on the back.
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                    • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
                      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

                      No. You're running your mouth on completely unrelated stuff. The bit I'm talking about was your childish "So do you think you are the genius or expert here?" bit.
                      How come it is not related from SEO today?
                      Is that what you call childish? I don't think so because you only showing that you know everything. Did it hurt you because its true.
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                      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
                        Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

                        How come it is not related from SEO today?
                        Is that what you call childish? I don't think so because you only showing that you know everything. Did it hurt you because its true.
                        Go and read your own comments, will you? You were yapping on things that have no bearing on this thread or forum, and you still are. If you're trying to taunt me, at least come up with something clever. This stuff is just asinine.

                        If you don't know basic concept of a language that's hardly my fault. Passive forms are taught around here in the elementary school (in case you pick English as the first foreign language like most do). I'm not sure what's your excuse for not knowing those, or for acting like a school kid.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

        Do you know that forum posting is part of link building and this is also part of off page optimization and this is one of the two factors of SEO.
        It's a part of crappy link building. It's not a part of link building that any good SEO uses.
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    • Profile picture of the author boSEO
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I recommend you see forum backlinks as a form of traffic source instead of SEO. Treat it as a source of traffic, and not SEO.

      You would get only a tiny boost in SEO results (if forum is relevant to your sites) if you post a lot of posts on forums, there are better ways to do SEO.
      Totally agree with this point. The whole idea of SEO is traffic generation at the end of the day. I think sometimes people get so caught up on ranking that traffic somehow becomes secondary.
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Originally Posted by boSEO View Post

        The whole idea of SEO is traffic generation at the end of the day. I think sometimes people get so caught up on ranking that traffic somehow becomes secondary.
        Definitely, although the original question was backlinks for SEO. If the forum is relevant to your site, not a spam haven, and the links pass equity, then it's a no-brainer: make some posts. Good posts so you don't get the heave-ho.

        Now how much Google values any forum post is conjecture. In my experience, watching backlinked sites drop in rankings after a forum switches to "no follow" I'd say there is potentially good value.

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        • Profile picture of the author basha15
          Most forums are probably no follow.
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        Originally Posted by boSEO View Post

        Totally agree with this point. The whole idea of SEO is traffic generation at the end of the day. I think sometimes people get so caught up on ranking that traffic somehow becomes secondary.
        LOL... Good luck with your traffic that has ZERO conversion rate...

        If you're truly an SEO you know that ranking for your "target keyword" is the primary GOAL if you achieve it then you can reap the benefit of Organic Traffic that actually pay!

        Dude, If you can't keep up don't step up! You'll die!
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    Don't help much... try to create more quality links for your website friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author jackluter
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    Its generate quick back links and help to rank keywords in search engine and also make traffic faster to web site.
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  • Profile picture of the author kamaldeepchandel
    These days even quality forums are not giving the boost in SERP. It is good for marketing but not giving you the proper link juice to your website, if it is not relevant niche. Most of the forums are related to Internet marketing. So keeps trying to build your link with other sources rather than forums, if you are looking for good link juice to your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Microsys
    You might also want something to sell beyond just adsense. If not a physical product, then maybe working as a consultant or "expert" on side if you are building an authority website? Or maybe make a mailing list, so you can pitch offers later on.

    With regards to forum signatures, they can be a good source of traffic although you have to be *very* specific to your niche. (i.e. like if you have a product that targets the exact topic of a specific board in a forum.)
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I cannot think of many things that would be a bigger waste of time than posting on forums for the purpose of trying to increase search engine rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
      Yeah, I was just wondering if it made any difference in them as you have thousands of posts yourself. I do get some traffic from the forum and personally just like that I can help people out with certain things and be able to learn as I go with other things. I understand there is nothing that can replace content and just the overall age of your domain but the waiting game sucks sometimes.
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I cannot think of many things that would be a bigger waste of time than posting on forums for the purpose of trying to increase search engine rankings.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by NeedBucksNow View Post

        Yeah, I was just wondering if it made any difference in them as you have thousands of posts yourself. I do get some traffic from the forum and personally just like that I can help people out with certain things and be able to learn as I go with other things. I understand there is nothing that can replace content and just the overall age of your domain but the waiting game sucks sometimes.
        The links from here are nofollow, as would be the links from pretty much any worthwhile forum out there. Believe me, I'm not after links from here to improve rankings. I would not write nearly as many posts if that was all I cared about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    Honestly, I think they do help quite a lot.
    Maybe not SEO wise, because most forums are probably no follow. However, if you're active in a popular forum with lots of activity, then you will most likely get a traffic boost if you place your link in your signature. But you would have to be an active member of that forum as well, or else your posts will get buried under the new ones..
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I think it's one of the backlinking variety that should be done for backlinking..

    Too much forum spam link will hurt the ranking surely
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  • Profile picture of the author ezeonlinebiz
    If I were you, I'd have used forum to get highly targeted traffic to my website instead of using it as a source of backlinks.

    Forum backlinks is not a type of backlink because it'll be in the signature of every post you make. It could also be referred as site wide links which is not the best type of link you should get.

    Try to diversify and get relevant backlinks from other sources apart from forums.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    How important are forum backlinks for SEO?
    You should already know considering your not ranking any pages via your Warrior Forum sig. links.
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    • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
      I have some that are ranking but was hoping to get them higher over time and just need to get more indexed
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You should already know considering your not ranking any pages via your Warrior Forum sig. links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zirkon Kalti
    Forum backlink works if it is from a forum related to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author crocodino
    Forum backlinks are important for seo as it helps for quick back links building and help to rank your keywords in search engines and also to increase the traffic for your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by crocodino View Post

      Forum backlinks are important for seo
      No, they're mostly worthless for SEO. If you believe otherwise please explain the mechanism of this supposed SEO tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author expmrb
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        No, they're mostly worthless for SEO. If you believe otherwise please explain the mechanism of this supposed SEO tool.
        Hello nettiapina. I agree, forum are good for knowledge and information exchange. Yeah, a very few one provides do-follow links that's true but I think that there links have some effect. As, I have seen SERP changes. I basically focus on those forums which provides an active signature link because of the quality of posts (such as number of thanks received or awards for insightful information etc as just in the case of Digitalpoint Forum)and not there number count.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by expmrb View Post

          I basically focus on those forums which provides an active signature link because of the quality of posts (such as number of thanks received or awards for insightful information etc as just in the case of Digitalpoint Forum)and not there number count.
          I actually do appreciate links in signatures as long as they don't go overboard with spam and sales. That's a way to say who you are, which entities you represent, and what are you selling (if anything). In the ideal case it works as your signature as it was supposed to.

          If you treat the SEO effect of a nofollow forum link as a potential side effect I think your approach is realistic. We don't know what Google does, but there's no reason to expect that these links have much of an effect.

          I've bought something from a signature link on this forum. Probably just once, but still.
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  • Profile picture of the author princy91
    Forum backlinks are important for creating backlinks but do not affect the rank much.They are important to drive traffic for the website.Forums with dofollow links are good to post on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Binujha
      Forum backlinks helps to drive more traffic. To get more traffic keep the post active in site with good page rank, DA and use long tail match anchor text.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Binujha View Post

        Forum backlinks helps to drive more traffic. To get more traffic keep the post active in site with good page rank, DA and use long tail match anchor text.
        That's possible. However, it's more likely that people just don't click on your profile or sig links. If they do, it's by accident or in the vein of "now, what's this hustler trying to peddle" rather than actually being interested as a customer.

        If your comments are short and provide no value the traffic you get most likely falls in this category. Branding yourself as a valuable expert takes an effort, not just pointless one-liners that are tangential to the topic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Judging from the spam here some days - and the useless posts clearly meant to "get a link" - quite a few here don't know the links are no-follow.

      A few years ago I could put up a new website, post the link here once or twice either in a sig or just in my profile....and that site would be indexed almost immediately. Then the WF went to 'no follow' and that changed.

      From Wordstream.com

      The nofollow tag is basically a notice sign for search engines saying "don't count this."

      Isn't that just mean and terrible? Why would anyone do such a thing? There's a reason for the nofollow attribute, and boy is it a good one!

      The no follow link tag has done a lot of good for the online world - most SEO spammers won't bother posting irrelevant links to blogs or forum posts if they know they won't get to publish a follow link.
      Judging from the posts here some days..quite a few here don't know about the no-follow. oops
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      • Profile picture of the author CelticFiddler
        Judging from the posts here some days..quite a few here don't know about the no-follow. oops
        Actually, I haven't noticed much difference in traffic between no-follow and do-follow links. I've heard that a mix of both is best, but I wouldn't know for sure. I suspect paid traffic is cheaper than "free" SEO traffic anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author CelticFiddler
    I've pretty much given up on SEO. It looks to me like a losers' game unless you are willing and able to play it on a very high level (>$10,000/month), especially since a competitor can buy a million crappy links to your site for about $100, and completely de-index you. Good luck with cleaning that up!
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  • Profile picture of the author dor
    Its help to get traffic but not much good for SEO to rank your site
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  • Profile picture of the author Xochitl Shat
    Forum backlinks is is a better way for SEO ranking. Forum can give a good backlinks that Google help SEO for higher rank. SEO has turned into a dominant component of THIS National infrastructure services, community forum placing is one of the ideal methods associated with off site SEO. A web community forum supports a crucial spot on the SEO mindset while this can be a beneficial origin for one way links and also primary site visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author npoint
    Truely (: forum backlinks works best as a referral traffic (:
    But for seo it may also have some value especially if you don`t use keywords only RAW URL of your website it will not looks suspiciouse to google and will give you some diversification in your anchor profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author sheenagoyal13
    forum comment are useful to get quality backlink it also provide quality traffic on your site...
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnSwail
    Forum is the best place where we can discuss every thing in details and easily understand each point exactly. There is many answers of the one questions and here are we can promote our business and website easily.
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    • Profile picture of the author WilliamWaltz
      Originally Posted by ShawnSwail View Post

      Forum is the best place where we can discuss every thing in details and easily understand each point exactly. There is many answers of the one questions and here are we can promote our business and website easily.
      Agreed, forum is the best place to discuss and give an exact information to your targeted customer. Discussing in forum is also very important because it is the place where more traffic is engaged, which is very good for your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Riccur
    So are backlinks in forums important?
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Riccur View Post

      So are backlinks in forums important?
      Not for SEO purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessicalad
    Forum Backlinks of high page rank helps in better ranking of the website keywords and in turn increase SERP Ranking for the website.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    Joining forums - posting on forum threads (with high traffic) which relates to your niche and participating on social media sites to make your quality content viral are helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessicalad
    Forum Backlinks for SEO are important for search engine ranking website & increasing visibilty of website in search engines. With this forum backlinks one can signature and profile links which would create high quality weblinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraGenJobs
    I think they can be helpful when it comes to forums. The problem is, you're going to have to work your hat off commenting and following a gazillion niche related forums if that's your only way of promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hafeez
    Forums backlinks are still important in SEO. Many forums now stop giving you dofollow backlinks and nofollow attribute has been added. But now a website need mix backlinks (dofollow + nofollow) to get SERP rank. However backlinks should be from relevant niche forums and Its hard to find a niche related forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockstaradi
    What is backlinks? A citation or reference to your website. So any backlink that is relevant that comes from relevant websites. So if you are able to get a dofollow link from a relevant forum, then it is of course of value. However, considering that finding dofollow forums for all niches are not as easy, I would recommend focusing effort on other backlinks strategy.

    Hit me up if you have further questions

    Much success!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    For the folks that have no idea what they're doing.
    1. Google knows how to detect forum platforms (ex: vBulletin (screenshot below))
    2. Google knows how to detect forum spam.

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    Link schemes

    Forum comments with optimized links in the post or signature, for example:
    Thanks, that’s great info!
    - Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Welcome to 2007
      Can we please have a huge banner on every "forum backlink" thread that says this?

      "Forum Backlinks. Party Like It's 2003!"

      "Forum Backlinks. SEO Just Like Grandma Made It!"
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      Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

      What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author addbizglobal
    According to me forum backlinks is not good for SEO. But Forum is good for get the genuine traffic for your website.
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