Nofollow Links Affect Ranking?

9 years ago

You need to ask Google.

A nofollow link is not going to pass PageRank.

However, possible other considerations often debated:

- Whether having nofollow links are important for link diversity.
- Whether Google factors links based on domain authority.
- Whether Google factors in traffic from a link.

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habibkhan01

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

You need to ask Google.

A nofollow link is not going to pass PageRank.

However, possible other considerations often debated:

- Whether having nofollow links are important for link diversity.
- Whether Google factors links based on domain authority.
- Whether Google factors in traffic from a link.

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I think thats enough information. So you can follow it.

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zaccks

9 years ago

No follow links still count, but by far less than dofollow links. if you want better results you should focus on dofollow

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paulgl 9 years ago

Nofollow links do not count for anything good. If you insist on
getting bunch of these, then what is google going to think?
That your site is getting spammed links. Has nothing to do
with link diversity or any other such rot. Google invented
nofollow to combat spam. Period.

Now, judge people by what they say. Anyone here who says they
count for anything good, should have every thing else they say
ignored. They are clueless.

This has nothing to do with FB, twitter, or any "real" social bookmark site.
Those are nofollow for a reason and google isn't that stupid.

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yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Magaver90

Hi

Can someone tell me - do nofollow links have an impact on ranking in the serps?
Does Google count them seriously?

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Sure they have an impact on the SERPs, get all nofollow links & you won't rank any pages. Doesn't get much worse than that, well, besides being deindexed.

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kindsvater 9 years ago

LOL. Every thread is a never ending debate around here. I'm all in with what Yukon has said about this subforum up on the main forum.

My thoughts:

Ranking is not the ultimate issue. It is traffic. Would have rather have a equity passing link on a PageRank 0 page no one has visited in 8 years, or a nofollow link on the home page of Yahoo?

If the link is not going to generate any traffic and the goal is just ranking in Google there are a lot of factors and there is no check list from Google. PageRank is a big factor so equity links are important.

But to assert the value of link starts and ends with PageRank and no other possible ranking factor is involved, IMHO is contrary to common sense, there are numerous algorithms which are part of ranking - not just PageRank, patents which Google may or may not be using, comments made by ex-Googlers about what Google tracks, and of course presupposes some special knowledge about a secret, ever-changing algorithm no one here actually has.

Unless it is a garbage link that could cause a penalty, I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't think it has any value at all then who cares? You can't control who links to you.

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alex93

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Magaver90

Hi

Can someone tell me - do nofollow links have an impact on ranking in the serps?
Does Google count them seriously?

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It depends on the quality of the no follow link, granted nobody really wants no follow links but take Wikipedia for example, i would take a no follow link from there any day of the week, and it would have an impact as a result, regardless of the no follow attribute assigned to it.

Granted, Wiki is rather an exception to the norm, but for me it has everything to do with the authority of the domain, no follow links have their uses as well, including traffic for one, given a choice though i would rather have the do follow.

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nettiapina

9 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

It depends on the quality of the no follow link, granted nobody really wants no follow links but take Wikipedia for example, i would take a no follow link from there any day of the week, and it would have an impact as a result, regardless of the no follow attribute assigned to it.

What do you mean by "impact"? It's unlikely that you get a lot of traffic from a Wikipedia link (how many really read references?), and the links don't pass "Google juice". I'm not sure what kind of impact it could have.

Well, the one I've got makes me feel all warm and fuzzy so I guess that counts as something...

Of course, Wikipedia is a solid site so there's no need to avoid the links.

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Binujha 9 years ago

No follow links do not affect ranking. They got nothing to do with page rank or link juice. Still they provide valuable referral traffic. It is better to have a balance between do follow and no follow links.
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alex93

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

What do you mean by "impact"? It's unlikely that you get a lot of traffic from a Wikipedia link (how many really read references?), and the links don't pass "Google juice". I'm not sure what kind of impact it could have.

The backlinks you receive from scrapper sites who scrape Wiki and traffic from these sites listing your reference, people sharing the potential reference increasing traffic, that coupled with the fuzzy feeling is a reason not to pass up a link from Wiki.

Iv also seen the occasional jump in search positions, whether coincidence or not, Google does place enormous emphasis on this pile of shi*te, I call it sh*te as it is far to easy to manipulate and often lists sites which have no place being listed. It has become a spam bank rather than something useful.

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nettiapina

9 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

The backlinks you receive from scrapper sites who scrape Wiki and traffic from these sites listing your reference, people sharing the potential reference increasing traffic, that coupled with the fuzzy feeling is a reason not to pass up a link from Wiki.

Please stop calling Wikipedia a "wiki". Wiki is a type of user-editable website and/or the software behind the site. Wikipedia happens to be the most well-known example of such a site.

I don't seem to have any backlinks from "scrapper sites" for some reason, but they're not really something I'd want in any case. I don't think that links from artificially built sites with practically stolen content is something I'd go for.

Originally Posted by alex93

Iv also seen the occasional jump in search positions, whether coincidence or not, Google does place enormous emphasis on this pile of shi*te,

Really? I've seen no indication that Wikipedia backlinks are helpful with rankings. I don't even understand what special mechanism it could have. It's a nofollow link from a popular website with a ton of articles, most of them obscure.

Google does favour Wikipedia content in search results, but that's another story.

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rahulmishra

9 years ago

Both nofollow and dofollow links are important for your Search Engine Ranking.... Thanks

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crocodino

9 years ago

No nofollow do not affect but dofollow links are important for ranking purpose. Most of the time dofollow links are good for increasing the traffic and ranking as well.

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paulmuaddibb

9 years ago

Ok, here is a data-driven answer.

One of my posts was linked from wikihow, a month ago. Until then, it was not ranking very well, and its organic traffic was poor.

I didn't notice the link until a visitor came to my site from wikihow. First, I thought that it was useless, because I knew that links from wikihow are "nofollow". However, after a week or so, organic traffic to that post is almost tripled and I saw that the rankings were significantly improved (not only google, but also yahoo and bing). Actually, it was not ranking at all until that link

So, could it be a coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so. Because the ranking was improved dramatically.

Of course, we can't generalise it to "all nofollow links are good". Domain authority is the key, I guess.

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nettiapina

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulmuaddibb

Ok, here is a data-driven answer.

Not really. It's a textbook case of an anecdote. We can't even begin to discuss causation or correlation if you've got only one data point to present.

Unfortunately getting definite answers is nearly impossible, and even getting good answers is hard. There's a black box in the play, and no page exists in a vacuum. The pollution of test results is always going to happen because of the way Google does it's business, and because of the way nearly every real site is configured.

Even if you posted just one link somewhere, there's your overall link profile, internal link structure, links from sites other than the one you mention, competition regarding that particular keyword, etc.

Did you check if your new page had other backlinks? The story here doesn't even touch this very important question.

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paulmuaddibb

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Not really. It's a textbook case of an anecdote. We can't even begin to discuss causation or correlation if you've got only one data point to present.

Unfortunately getting definite answers is nearly impossible, and even getting good answers is hard. There's a black box in the play, and no page exists in a vacuum. The pollution of test results is always going to happen because of the way Google does it's business, and because of the way nearly every real site is configured.

Even if you posted just one link somewhere, there's your overall link profile, internal link structure, links from sites other than the one you mention, competition regarding that particular keyword, etc.

Did you check if your new page had other backlinks? The story here doesn't even touch this very important question.

First of all, I know that my answer is not completely "data-driven" answer, but an anecdote. As I said at the end of the post, "we can't generalise this". Did you read that part? I don't think so...

I know that overall link profile, internal link structure and other backlinks also affect rankings.

You asked me if I checked other backlinks? Of course I did and I wouldn't have told this story, if I hadn't. I told this story because that backlink was the second backlink to that post, the first one was from pinterest.

So, as you said (and I have already said before you), it can't be generalised. It was just a story, something that I experienced. And you know what? There is a website called Warrior Forum, on which people share their experiences and try to help each other and answer each other's questions.

Anyways, you are right, it was just an anectode.

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nettiapina

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulmuaddibb

First of all, I know that my answer is not completely "data-driven" answer, but an anecdote. As I said at the end of the post, "we can't generalise this". Did you read that part? I don't think so...

Yes, I did read your comment. But you already seem to know why I just had to post that little rebuttal. Unfortunately some people get all worked up when you just mention "data" or "proof".

I'm sure there's correlation between getting your link out there, and increased search engine rankings.

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LastChanceLance

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulmuaddibb

Ok, here is a data-driven answer.

One of my posts was linked from wikihow, a month ago. Until then, it was not ranking very well, and its organic traffic was poor.

I didn't notice the link until a visitor came to my site from wikihow. First, I thought that it was useless, because I knew that links from wikihow are "nofollow". However, after a week or so, organic traffic to that post is almost tripled and I saw that the rankings were significantly improved (not only google, but also yahoo and bing). Actually, it was not ranking at all until that link

So, could it be a coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so. Because the ranking was improved dramatically.

Of course, we can't generalise it to "all nofollow links are good". Domain authority is the key, I guess.

Hope this helps.

This is just my opinion but i call bullshit on Google. I think they follow all links and use the dofollow and nofollow as a way to tell if its spam and to scare people. If you think about it, all the easy shit is nofollow, and the dofollow are much harder to spam. Facebook is nofollow yet Google loves to see you shared on social media. If you have a ton of nofollow compared to your dofollow then its more then likely a shitty site. idk... i think its a Google scam

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nettiapina

9 years ago

Originally Posted by LastChanceLance

This is just my opinion but i call bullshit on Google.

Random guy on a random internet forum is calling BS on the company that controls everything on a service that they built themselves? Right.

Originally Posted by LastChanceLance

Facebook is nofollow yet Google loves to see you shared on social media. If you have a ton of nofollow compared to your dofollow then its more then likely a shitty site. idk... i think its a Google scam

They don't give an airborne fornication about anyone's shares on social media. They have no reason to. Now, that might change in the future, but that's the current state of things.

Cutts has even explained this several times. One of the reasons is that this data is very hard for them to use in any meaningful way. The other is that these services are hard to index, they may ban Google, or change their APIs on a moments notice. Twitter stopped Google from accessing Tweets, and FB seems to do a major change every six months.

Google would be making their search engine completely unreliable if they went and implemented something like this.

This line of reasoning here is straightforward and logical. If you want to call BS on Google, you need to do way better than telling us that you've got a conspiracy theory of some sort.

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paulgl

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulmuaddibb

Ok, here is a data-driven answer.

Blah blah blah

So, could it be a coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so. Because the ranking was improved dramatically.

Of course, we can't generalise it to "all nofollow links are good". Domain authority is the key, I guess.

Hope this helps.

How many times do we hear about grandma, who smoked 2 packs a day, washed down with a bottle of whiskey....and she died at 99.

Meaningless, unless you want to shmooze people into believing that cigs and booze do not
affect health and actually make you live longer.

I'm sick of this natural BS about nofollow. There is NOTHING natural about it.

I'm sick of this question about nofollow. There is no dofollow and nofollow is
to combat spam. So go ahead. Tip off google that your site is untrusted and spam.

In fact, PLEASE get as many nofollow links as you can choke on. See if your site
lives to be 99 like grandma.

Judging by the advice here, any wonder why there are so many fail threads here?

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SEOleaders

9 years ago

Do not always look for rank. No follow is not giving you rank but if you go and get some good links on a popular website or blog then you may get some leads from that source which is the prime focus of your internet marketing campaign.

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hatrick

9 years ago

They don't help much but it is always good to have link diversity, which means that you should have a mixture of dofollow as well as no follow links. Do not concentrate entirely on do-follow links alone as this may give a red signal to Google.

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st0nec0ld

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Magaver90

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Can someone tell me - do nofollow links have an impact on ranking in the serps?
Does Google count them seriously?

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At some point I believe it still count but not as much as dofollow gives.
If the link is relevant then it makes perfect sense that that link is a good link even if it is nofollow. On the other hand, does it make sense to have a dofollow but irrelevant link? Think about it.

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annewilliams123

9 years ago

As per my knowledge,In ranking of blog or website ranking alexa is one of the factor.

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nettiapina 9 years ago

Originally Posted by annewilliams123

As per my knowledge,In ranking of blog or website ranking alexa is one of the factor.

Alexa is not a factor in anything, and it's completely useless as a website statistics tool. But keep staring a glorified browser plugin usage graph if it makes you feel good.
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davidfrankk

9 years ago

After nearly 2 years of research on this subject, I have found that though nofollow links don not affect rankings directly, Google does consider the nofollow link profile of a website to test for naturality, which in turn affects the websites ranking.

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flukmani

9 years ago

If link rel = nofollow than factors like Domain Authority and Page Rank are considered

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Brown2

9 years ago

No follow links does not affect ranking of your website. But, they help in driving traffic to your website. So, both no follow and do follow links are good for the website.

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Amnakarim

9 years ago

Balance of nofollow and dofollow is best practices for your website health. Nofollow provides mostly traffic and dofollow link provides source traffic with link juice.

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expmrb

9 years ago

No-follow links are only good for getting traffic they do not provide any link juice. Here is a video of Matt Cutts saying about it check it out:

Can nofollow links hurt my site's ranking? -...

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Slade556

9 years ago

No follow links are ok, in terms of getting more traffic your way. They won't help you rank better, but they will help you traffic wise! So don't underestimate them.

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InitialEffort

9 years ago

Do-follow links pass the link juice to your site while no-follow links can provide you traffic and can make your
link building look natural to Google. There no exact ratio but it it’s recommend that you should not be trying to
acquire every link to your website as a do-follow and make sure that the sites you’re acquiring links from are of
good quality.

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mrhmamun

9 years ago

For quick results should to create Do-follow links on related websites.

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