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by l4lee
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Hi
I'm fairly new to this IM thing but I have some experince in SEO
roughly 'bout a year or so & I successfully promoted a number of websites in the serp


what i noticed is that if only use "white hat" tatics i get bad results
but
if i mix things up with some more grayish play calling i get much better rankings for my websites.

does anyone here have the same expeince?
or maybe the complete oposite?

please share what kind works for you
I would also appreciate if you could point me to a source that provide valuable info on this subject (please no PM)

tnx
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    Originally Posted by l4lee View Post

    if i mix things up with some more grayish play calling i get much better rankings for my websites.
    I'm not sure what you consider "white hat tactics", but I'm guessing most of us are trying to boost our link profiles more or less artificially. Even something like "web 2.0" or "social bookmarking" in this context are not "white hat".

    How many are really only writing juicy articles, and doing link outreach by the book?
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  • Profile picture of the author strangebrew1961
    Originally Posted by l4lee View Post

    what i noticed is that if only use "white hat" tatics i get bad results.
    To tell you the truth, I'm about to give up on this "white hat" stuff myself. I just watched a new site in my niche, with less content and spammy backlinks, rank higher than me. The gloves are coming off now! : )
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    • Profile picture of the author Binujha
      Maybe with black hat some sites get ranking, but it doesn't lasts longer. Sure these black hat techs will have some adverse impact on the site. It is better to rule the SERP with pure tactics. Read this to know more. Obviously having Google as our biggest search engine daddy, relying on white hat tactics is good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Slade556
        Originally Posted by Binujha View Post

        Maybe with black hat some sites get ranking, but it doesn't lasts longer. Sure these black hat techs will have some adverse impact on the site.
        I think so too!
        Sooner or later, Google will know. And if Google doesn't catch you, someone might report you.. in any case, it's risky and not worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author expmrb
    I am not sure that which tactics are you exactly calling as White hat I will agree with 'nettiapina'. Still now also some webmasters use social bookmarking and article submission as white hat but they are completely not.
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  • Profile picture of the author escapeadvertising
    Im strongly disagree with you.. google always prefered the white hate tactics seo
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  • Profile picture of the author Deborah English
    You can not stable your website on top rank long term with the help of black hat techniques. Your website will totally banned from GOOGLE against of using black hat.
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  • Profile picture of the author l4lee
    Thanks for everyone commenting, it was a fun &interesting read.

    I, too, want to use only legit methods but I don't share your view on this all google gonna get u view.
    thanks to who put up the link to sew's site

    o
    & strangebrew1961 good luck man, I'm with you
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