im having the hardest time getting back links. please help

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for some reason i cant get a back link for the life of me. i have a a website that is about knives and i can get back links at all especially back links that are relative to my site. can someone please help me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    What have you tried?
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    • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      What have you tried?
      i have tried some forums about knives. i few worked and a few didnt because it they deleted it because they called it spam. did some directories. made some YouTube videos with a link to my site in the description. all honesty im not sure where to even start. yesterday i added a section to a page on wiki.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by LastChanceLance View Post

        i have tried some forums about knives. i few worked and a few didnt because it they deleted it because they called it spam. did some directories. made some YouTube videos with a link to my site in the description. all honesty im not sure where to even start. yesterday i added a section to a page on wiki.
        • If you're dropping a link without doing anything useful, it's spam.
        • If you're dropping a link with a detailed tutorial on knife sharpening (or whatever) it's useful for other forum members & your link will most likely stick.

        Forum links are usually nofollow which won't rank pages on Google SERPs so only consider those types of links for direct niche traffic. Same goes for Youtube links, useless for SEO.
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        • Profile picture of the author bloggernew
          Hi,

          try to use good directories. And even better, take a look at your competitors backlinks and try to make the same ones You can use majestic seo for it...
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    you can easily get backlinks, if you even haven't tried about youtube which is you can just throw video to get your backlinks, then you do nothing about it.. that's why it's hard to get backlinks, because you did nothing. lol

    Pls do something n get back here
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Start with some of the popular paid directories.

    Then start some outreach. If it is kitchen cutlery (knives is a pretty broad topic) I would look for smaller, but popular cooking blogs. They are not direct competitors, but are related enough that a link to you makes sense. That is assuming that your site is useful and not selling worthless knives like the junk you see on TV.

    If it is more outdoors and hunting knives, then reach out to hunting and outdoors related websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Start with some of the popular paid directories.

      Then start some outreach. If it is kitchen cutlery (knives is a pretty broad topic) I would look for smaller, but popular cooking blogs. They are not direct competitors, but are related enough that a link to you makes sense. That is assuming that your site is useful and not selling worthless knives like the junk you see on TV.

      If it is more outdoors and hunting knives, then reach out to hunting and outdoors related websites.
      i cant do paid because im broke. i have to work on free ones.
      im not really selling anything. im using adsence and was using amazon but they cut me off because lack of activity
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by LastChanceLance View Post

        i cant do paid because im broke. i have to work on free ones.
        im not really selling anything. im using adsence and was using amazon but they cut me off because lack of activity
        The best place to get backlinks is from your own online empire.

        Start creating sites (yes, sites. Not just a page) on various free platforms.
        Wordpress, wix, blogspot, weebly, yola, and more.

        You might even try hub.

        Instant places for backlinks.

        To drum up traffic for free, use twitter and FB.

        I can think of 1,000 titles for articles on knives.

        Sure, it's hard work. But nobody gets anything for free.
        Either blood and sweat, or money.

        Any other so-called "free" links , are junk with a capital J.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author PBMax
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          The best place to get backlinks is from your own online empire.

          Start creating sites (yes, sites. Not just a page) on various free platforms.
          Wordpress, wix, blogspot, weebly, yola, and more.

          You might even try hub.

          Instant places for backlinks.

          To drum up traffic for free, use twitter and FB.

          I can think of 1,000 titles for articles on knives.

          Sure, it's hard work. But nobody gets anything for free.
          Either blood and sweat, or money.

          Any other so-called "free" links , are junk with a capital J.

          Paul
          For a long time after you slave over building your own "empire" the site collection won't amount to much more than what Senuke offers in style, content and authority - which is zero, zero and zero.

          A lot of weight is given to the sites that point at the sites that point at you. Unless you're talking multi-tier private site networks with super low OBL than can all pass a manual Google inspection and follow PBN 101 rules, then you're setting this guy up for failure.

          You'd have to have an army of sites to match the power a handful of solid, authority links gained through more persuasive/winsome means can offer.
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          • Profile picture of the author paulgl
            Originally Posted by PBMax View Post

            For a long time after you slave over building your own "empire" the site collection won't amount to much more than what Senuke offers in style, content and authority - which is zero, zero and zero.
            I am answering the man's question.

            He has no money for link building.

            You'd be amazed at the free empires created online.

            You have to start somewhere. Each and every blogspot blog I have
            has high PR and authority. All for free.

            Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

            You forgot a crucial step: getting backlinks to those sites. With several services you mention you don't get any link juice "for free", but you have to bring your own. Perhaps you can then leverage your "empire" by interlinking some of your own sites, but that's going to take quite a lot of work. And it's pretty risky too.
            You people are all friggin wet. If your page is indexed, the link's there.

            You people have little to no idea what prompted the starters of google to come up
            with PR. And PR is still alive and well, and living in google. And PR and
            the algo are all about backlinks relating to the chance that a random person will
            land on your page.

            Interlinking sites is risky? ROTFLMAO! Tell that to wikipedia, craigslist, amazon,
            ebay, gasbuddy, yahoo, go.com, zap2it.com, holy cow! Wake up and smell yourself.

            Here's a newsflash: At the bottom of every amazon.com page, you will find dozens of
            links to amazon's other online empire sites. Why are they no hiding the fact that they
            own alexa?

            Of course I cannot stress the word, "free." That's what this is about.

            Oh here's another tip. Every indexed page has PR.

            But, if you people had started this years ago, or just get up off your duff and do it,
            you soon could have a rather free online empire of your own.

            Paul
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            • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              You people are all friggin wet. If your page is indexed, the link's there.
              Yes its a link, technically speaking. But there's no juice for that link to give out.

              This concept is not exactly hard to understand so I find it a bit disheartening that you're all over this particular Kool-Aid.

              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              Interlinking sites is risky? ROTFLMAO! Tell that to wikipedia, craigslist, amazon,
              ebay, gasbuddy, yahoo, go.com, zap2it.com, holy cow! Wake up and smell yourself.
              And this here is a fallacy called false analogy. You're comparing new blog sites and wannabe PBNs to major web properties. Of course the latter don't have any need to hide their footprints.

              The former often have somewhat questionable link profiles, and may even get the money sites in trouble. The so-called tiered link building isn't as safe as it used to be. That's what I was saying.

              If you're just building humble niche or blog sites there's really no reason for you to avoid interlinking them. You're not trying to manipulate Google in the way that PBN operators are.

              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              Oh here's another tip. Every indexed page has PR.
              Only if you consider PR n/a to be PR, and I have no idea why you'd do that. Technically speaking you're right, but the links are worthless.

              Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

              You have to start somewhere. Each and every blogspot blog I have
              has high PR and authority. All for free.
              Now, this is a sentiment I fully support. You have to be smart about what you do, and not everyone is going to get rewarded for their every effort. But if you don't build anything you don't even get a change.

              Some people even suggest that you should build at least half-a-dozen sites at the same time, and see which of them takes off. If I was doing niche sites I'd probably follow this advice.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Start creating sites (yes, sites. Not just a page) on various free platforms.
          Wordpress, wix, blogspot, weebly, yola, and more.

          Instant places for backlinks.
          You forgot a crucial step: getting backlinks to those sites. With several services you mention you don't get any link juice "for free", but you have to bring your own. Perhaps you can then leverage your "empire" by interlinking some of your own sites, but that's going to take quite a lot of work. And it's pretty risky too.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Reverse engineer your competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Reverse engineer your competitors.
      i dont understand what you mean?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by LastChanceLance View Post

        i dont understand what you mean?
        The links you want are right in front of you.

        Replicate what is already working - ie "reverse engineer"
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        • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          The links you want are right in front of you.

          Replicate what is already working - ie "reverse engineer"
          lol now i feel dumb... are you saying find out what my competitors back links are and then go after those?
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        • Profile picture of the author PBMax
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          The links you want are right in front of you.

          Replicate what is already working - ie "reverse engineer"
          Doesn't always work. I have clients who's comp has crap for backlinks. Most blog mentions and links from sister sites they work with.

          You have to be smarter and find/obtain links others can't.
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by PBMax View Post

            Doesn't always work. I have clients who's comp has crap for backlinks. Most blog mentions and links from sister sites they work with.

            You have to be smarter and find/obtain links others can't.
            Reverse engineer a large number of competing sites, compile the data into a single spreadsheet, order by DA desc and focus on replicating the links that matter.

            Tie that in with advanced/targeted search query operators, niche directories, citations, and sensible outreach and you will get results.
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            • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
              Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

              Reverse engineer a large number of competing sites, compile the data into a single spreadsheet, order by DA desc and focus on replicating the links that matter.

              Tie that in with advanced/targeted search query operators, niche directories, citations, and sensible outreach and you will get results.
              thank you!! is there any tool that you suggest to use to do this?
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            • Profile picture of the author PBMax
              Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

              Reverse engineer a large number of competing sites, compile the data into a single spreadsheet, order by DA desc and focus on replicating the links that matter.

              Tie that in with advanced/targeted search query operators, niche directories, citations, and sensible outreach and you will get results.
              You're essentially saying "do SEO and SEO will work." Not sure what niche you're in, perhaps its an easy one and this works, but SEO is not the only marketing tactic. Backlinks for some industries play a smaller role and you just need ones that are under-the-radar rockstars - a handful will do for local. In some industries, like mine, reverse engineering someone's jumbled mess is counterproductive.

              In theory you're right. SpyGlass has helped hundreds of people do this in the past. But the days of spam and misdirection have made trekking through a garbage dump for a few used, stretched out, high OBL sites a non-starter.

              Find the sites your comp can't get and get them.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1SEOcom
    The best ways to get backlinks is to post your link in directories and forums also another way to get backlinks is to post a video on youtube or other good quality video submission sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author wahmonline
    It is also a good idea to comment on blog posts that are related to your niche. It wont cost you anything and you will get a back link as well as traffic. Just make sure you read the original post first and make sure that you comment adds value. You can find a few different blogs like this in your niche each week.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
    what are some good free tools to use to check my competitors backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author expmrb
    You want to get links that matter? Just Guest post in your niche blogs. Create list of blogs and starting mailing them (and/or contacting them personally), I am sure that some of them will reply you as they are willing to accept your article in their blogs. While writing that article don't push anything for the promotion of your blog. Just create content that adds value to the relevant topic. Put your link in the author's bio section or any part of the content body which is relevant to the discussed topic but don't put unnecessary links that might lead to the rejection of your guest article.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by expmrb View Post

      You want to get links that matter? Just Guest post in your niche blogs.
      If you're a good and quick writer this might work. However, it's likely that you'd need to write an article for their site and from an angle their readers find interesting. Your own site seems to have rewritten Wikipedia contents, and that wont cut it.

      So depending on your skills and the price you put on your own time this might be nearly impossible, way too costly for a mere blog article link, or something to seriously consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
    Originally Posted by LastChanceLance View Post

    for some reason i cant get a back link for the life of me. i have a a website that is about knives and i can get back links at all especially back links that are relative to my site. can someone please help me!
    If you can't get the backlinks, you try to build it. Building some quality backlinks which looks natural is something everyone is doing ..
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    • Profile picture of the author LastChanceLance
      Originally Posted by dotgirish View Post

      If you can't get the backlinks, you try to build it. Building some quality backlinks which looks natural is something everyone is doing ..
      how do you do that?
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      • Profile picture of the author cuesight
        Posting to forums that allow follow links is a good place to start. Possibly cleaning up the menu as there are so many items it's hard to follow.

        Reverse engineering is good, but make sure to look at the sites your competition is getting and see how they rank in Google, their page rank, etc. Sites like SEO Moz can be very helpful.

        Social networking is a good place for back links, as people will not only share them on the social networking sites, but are likely to share them on blogs, or make posts about them on blogs.

        Maybe add your own forum to your site. Let people discuss the knives and other topics related to knives as that will help generate links and traffic.

        Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    EFFECTIVE BACKLINCKS STRATEGY:

    1 a backlink must be devoid of rel=“nofollow”
    2 Do NOT place here: footer, header, sidebar, widgets
    3 Do not use "click here" All the time but use "esteemed" backlink
    4 Sometimes (20%) use a not elegant "click here"

    (use a mix of points 3 & 4 because if you use only point 3 Google think is only SEO and he doesn t appreciate a lot)

    5 backlink must be Clearly visible

    I think these points could help you a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author cindynorwood
    i believe you can get good backlinks from high PR site like warrior forum and the likes if you can manage to build some activity on your YouTube videos it will also help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashwaniseo
    By Submitting links on high Pr sites likes Forums, Article submission sites then video submission will definitely give you a good backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraGenJobs
    It really depends on what you're aiming at. You can have many good backlinks, but if they aren't well targeted, then what's the point. Likewise, if you post spammy backlinks to relevant sites, you'll get more harm than good. I'd say you have to really do some serious research and find relevant high ranked websites and post constructive backlinks in order to get your site noticed. And be aware that it won't happen overnight.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    If you don't have money, you must have time (and some skills).

    You can create some websites (tumblr, wordpress, I'd stay away from blogger, Google owns it and one of the rules is: no sites that exists only or mainly to boost the PR/ranking of other sies; and Google, not you decides what 'mainly' means).

    Your options here are: do many minis or a few, quality sites that you treat like you treat your main site, on related subjects / niches.

    (Amazon.com doesn't have to hide its footprint because all the sites in its empire that it shows are true business websites, not websites that are meant to boost the rankings of the money site. Copy that model and you get good results and you don't have to hide your footprints.)

    Alternatively, you can create some kickass content, then contact webmaster in whose audience would be interested in the content you created and suggest they link to it... You could Google "the broken link bible" and do it that way too.


    Originally Posted by LastChanceLance View Post

    for some reason i cant get a back link for the life of me. i have a a website that is about knives and i can get back links at all especially back links that are relative to my site. can someone please help me!
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  • Profile picture of the author the osirus
    Posting comments on relevant blogs in your niche, post a very good comment and add a keyword linking back to your site within the comment text. Your comment should be so good that the page admin doesnt delete it even if a backlink is found in the text. Always read and understand the article first
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  • Profile picture of the author Hemanth Malli
    Hi,

    Social bookmarking is an easy way to get backlinks to your site. It allows users to store bookmarks on different pages. The good thing is that you can submit your websites to different social media websites people will find the site through the bookmarking page. Social bookmarking sites are run by people instead of algorithms.
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    • Profile picture of the author mivid
      Hi there

      Below mentioned are the unpaid methods which i use.

      Business Listing
      Profile creation
      Social bookmarking
      Blog commenting(related Niches)
      Forum posting(related niches)
      Info graphic sharing
      Image sharing
      Pdf sharing

      (check for business listing/bookmarking/profile creation sites in google and add your site in it)

      All methods have its own merits and demerits. Make sure the sites that you select are good. For that you can check page rank. And google the site url, if it is listed in search it might not be banned or black listed.(these are just my methods)

      I hope this helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Hemanth Malli View Post

        Social bookmarking is an easy way to get backlinks to your site.
        It's easy, but the links are usually not even worth the time it took you do post them.

        Originally Posted by mivid View Post

        All methods have its own merits and demerits. Make sure the sites that you select are good. For that you can check page rank.
        There seem to be very few merits to these tactics. 2-4 create low quality links that are usually nofollow. That's also very likely the case with image sharing. I don't know enough about PDF sharing to comment on it, but I'd suspect it's not very effective.

        Business listings are potentially a decent tactic, but it depends on the list. Usually the sites are weak, and the link would end up on a page that has no PR, but also has dozens of links to share that same weak juice.

        Google stopped updating Pagerank 1,5 years ago, so you should not pay attention to that. Staring at a score for the front page of a site can also very quickly lead you to wrong conclusions.
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        • Profile picture of the author news2cash
          Use tools? Get Backlinkbeast or Moneyrobot or Licorne AIO or ANT Aladdin or DOCSTOC or other. All of the SEO Tools Start with an Article. Write an opening article. (This is like cooking) add some flavoring. (Surround your keyword with flavor:interest ect. and related) Go to Fiverr search for Backlink Gigs.
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  • Profile picture of the author elzorro2003
    Be very careful how you go about posting your backlinks on directories and forums. I have a post on the forum here showing how I only have backlinks from 33 domains and I incurred a Google Penalty. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get rid of the bad links, and since Google Webmaster doesn't show you the exact page of the link, I'm probably going to have to disavow the entire domains.

    On another note. I recently heard an interview with John Mueller (Senior Trend Analyst at Google) who said links aren't as important to ranking. He said use them as a normal marketing campaign, but you are better off focusing on great content.

    So if I were you, just focus on keyword and content and forget links. Look at me, now i'm paying the price for back links!
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