Does Page Rank Still Matter In SEO?

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I heard alot about PR (Page Rank) in Google's algorythm. Does anyone have news on whether this is still a relevant factor for ranking in Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author gnojham
    not relevant
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Yes PageRank matters.

    No, you cannot use it to your advantage because you have no idea what the PageRank is of any page on the internet right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Binujha
    No. Page Rank is not that important nowadays. PR is almost dead and the last update on PR was rolled out on Dec 2013.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by Binujha View Post

      No. Page Rank is not that important nowadays. PR is almost dead and the last update on PR was rolled out on Dec 2013.
      See, people are just plain stupid. They hear a guy who knew a guy,
      and they get half the story.

      PR is actually updated daily.

      You people are so friggin clueless, it's impossible to keep up.

      I pity the fools that follow you, and the foolish stuff you obviously do.

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    • Profile picture of the author wrist3d
      Originally Posted by Binujha View Post

      No. Page Rank is not that important nowadays. PR is almost dead and the last update on PR was rolled out on Dec 2013.
      I partially agree with Binujha on the statement to public Google page rank is dead. Google is not showing any interest in updating Public toolbar Google Page Rank on time and any browser indicating PR bar is very very old ranks. So any marketing strategies based on those browser showing PR is obsolete and cannot be trusted in contemporary Internet Marketing. However, it is believed that actual PR is updated everyday in Google internal network and has an important role in ranking a web page. However, this internal PR update is not available to public and I don't think any serious marketer is using public (showing browser) Google PR to calculate a website worth now.

      Right now I am using MOZ stats (DA and PA) to calculate the potential of a website. These stats can be taken as alternative for public toolbar Google Page Rank to calculate the worth of a website though they are not provided or confirmed by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xochitl Shat
    No, Page Rank is dead. It's not working anymore for ranking in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    3 posters above have no idea what they are talking about. 1 does.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      3 posters above have no idea what they are talking about. 1 does.

      What do I win?
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        The feeling of satisfaction that comes from stating correct facts that most people who read them will ignore them, of course!

        If you answer me this question: Why does someone ask something about PR or DA every other day on this forum? when there's a search button and correct and incorrect answers abound, you win an additional feeling of satisfaction. This one's guaranteed to last a whopping 7 seconds.

        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        What do I win?
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by DABK View Post

          The feeling of satisfaction that comes from stating correct facts that most people who read them will ignore them, of course!

          If you answer me this question: Why does someone ask something about PR or DA every other day on this forum? when there's a search button and correct and incorrect answers abound, you win an additional feeling of satisfaction. This one's guaranteed to last a whopping 7 seconds.
          Because the moderators won't delete/merge threads like this. It's what should be done, but when you do not have moderators that actually have a working knowledge of SEO, that makes moderating an SEO forum a challenge. Not their fault.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    It still matters but Google is no longer updating PR

    Why does it matter? It impacts your LINK EARNING decisions. It impacts your OUTREACH decisions.

    You need to use 'alternative' measurements like PA/DA from Moz
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      3 posters above have no idea what they are talking about. 1 does.
      Lets make that 4
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      It still matters but Google is no longer updating PR
      ....You need to use 'alternative' measurements like PA/DA from Moz
      1. They still updating PR
      2. PA/DA are NOT used by any search engine as a metric in the ranking of a site
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      It still matters but Google is no longer updating PR

      Why does it matter? It impacts your LINK EARNING decisions. It impacts your OUTREACH decisions.

      You need to use 'alternative' measurements like PA/DA from Moz
      Yeah. Sure.

      NEWSFLASH: PR is updated daily.

      Didn't know that? Of course not.

      I don't know what link earning and outreach has to do with squat, but
      ....you guys rock!!!

      Since google does use PR, and not PA/DA...which one do you believe in?

      Oh yeah...Santa Claus!

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  • Profile picture of the author tbtb123
    Domain's PR was never important, PR backlinks on the otherhand are the best known source of SEO value to date.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben West
    Wow, this thread is a minefield of misinformation for anyone new to SEO.

    To stop people being scammed with fake PR pages, I am just going to say no, PR does not matter. The Page Rank that the public can view has not be updated in years, so it is not accurate anymore, and Page Rank is very easy to fake. When someone starts talking about Page Rank, walk away. Anyone who knows anything will not use Page Rank anymore.

    Learn about DA, PA, Trust Flow and Citation Flow instead.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by Ben West View Post

      Learn about DA, PA, Trust Flow and Citation Flow instead.
      Why? No search engine uses any of those metrics in the ranking of sites?
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        Why? No search engine uses any of those metrics in the ranking of sites?
        Of course not, they're 3rd party interpretations. But you often need some way to tell if other sites have decent backlink profiles or not.
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        Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

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  • Profile picture of the author chrisjohn93
    Nothing is dead in Google.. Yes I agree that PR last update was roll out in 2013, But Google still count page rank of your website and it is one of the factor to get ranking of your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author shastaarenburg
    Nop, not at all. Page rank doesn't matter now-a-days. Care about Domain Authority!
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by shastaarenburg View Post

      Nop, not at all. Page rank doesn't matter now-a-days. Care about Domain Authority!
      The "toolbar" Pagerank that you saw on all kinds of handy tools isn't updated, and doesn't matter. Pagerank continues to be a part of Google's algorithm as far as anyone outside Google can tell.

      Unfortunately DA is a very poor substitute.
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      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

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  • Profile picture of the author brainmineae
    Yes,Page rank still matters in SEO 2015.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunny093
    Now backlink is the matter the most...rather than PR
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  • Profile picture of the author mikhailblaze
    Domain authority still matters, but its value has been depreciated in recent months. It's not something I'd bank my hopes on if I want to be in the first page of the SERPS, but it's not something I exclusively want to focus on.


    Just work on your SEO and create high quality backlinks and site content. You're good to go once you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosario1990
    No matter but you need to rank your keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author gnojham
      Originally Posted by rosario1990 View Post

      No matter but you need to rank your keywords.
      i rank all my keywords #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author linathinfotech
    Don't be depends on only page rank. Use quality content which people love to share on social media and on their sites and you will easily get rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author danielking1
      Originally Posted by linathinfotech View Post

      Don't be depends on only page rank. Use quality content which people love to share on social media and on their sites and you will easily get rankings.
      This! We've been trying to get our site pagerank up for so long but after a while writing good quality content help us rank without it. Is it important/nice to have a pagerank yes. DO you need it to rank, no.
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  • Profile picture of the author warmonitor11
    Page Rank is dead,.. I Think so..SEO is all about traffic and contents
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by sunny093 View Post

      Now backlink is the matter the most...rather than PR
      Where do you think Pagerank comes from?

      Originally Posted by warmonitor11 View Post

      Page Rank is dead,.. I Think so..SEO is all about traffic and contents
      I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but traffic in itself isn't a factor in SEO. Sure, if you get visitors who are interested in your site, they may link to it.
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      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

      What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisNosal
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    It does, but only to decide if your site is legitimate or not, but it may not necessarily help you be successful on Google.

    For example, a site has PR5 but is targeted toward the keyword "six-pack abs", while another has PR7 but is "weight loss".

    You MUST make sure your site is targeted in order to leverage that Pagerank into real results.

    The combination is like an engine or a car - both are useless without each other.

    When you have the combination, which many marketers miss entirely, you've got the winning formula.
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  • Profile picture of the author kavyasharma561
    Of course, yes page rank is important as per as Google. Page rank tells about the importance of the site, that's why we make back links from the high page rank sites ..
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjohn75
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  • Profile picture of the author JyotiRana
    Yes, Page Rank still matter in seo. In order to get a high rank, creating backlinks is must with unique contents.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarleneSchwarz
    Value form 0 to 10 determine page's importance and authority on the web according to google. But under the latest google updates like Panda and Penguin , new algorithms using social signals and fresh content re dominating the ranking signals, leaving PR as less important. Google removed PR from its Webmaster Tools some years ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      You can't even spell India correctly, why would someone want to learn from you?

      By the way, sticking your link in this thread does you no good from any point of view.

      If you want SEO advantages, find a way that works.
      If you want visitors/followers, stick your link in discussions related to whatever you teach.

      Originally Posted by MarleneSchwarz View Post

      Value form 0 to 10 determine page's importance and authority on the web according to google. But under the latest google updates like Panda and Penguin , new algorithms using social signals and fresh content re dominating the ranking signals, leaving PR as less important. Google removed PR from its Webmaster Tools some years ago.

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  • Profile picture of the author Amila Supun
    Yes page rank matters. But new websites don't get a page rank. But if you have a back link from a web site that have page rank 6-9 it will be very valuable for your website in SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Amila Supun View Post

      Yes page rank matters. But new websites don't get a page rank. But if you have a back link from a web site that have page rank 6-9 it will be very valuable for your website in SEO.
      No page with a PR of 7, 8, or 9 is ever going to link to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author gnojham
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        No page with a PR of 7, 8, or 9 is ever going to link to you.
        i dont know, i think he can make it happen
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  • Profile picture of the author sureshgupta
    PR doesn't matter nowadays. What matters is that Domain Authority(DA).
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  • Profile picture of the author amutechnologies
    PR does not matter to getting higher ranking. I have seen that plenty of website is having Pr 5-6 but traffic less than 80 per day on the other hand some having PR 0 To 1 but having enough traffic instead of that per day, so I think you need to focus on quality work.
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  • Yeah! Page Rank have main matter in SEO. According to layman’s terms, PageRank uses the number of links pointing to a web page to determine the value of that web page.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by sureshgupta View Post

      PR doesn't matter nowadays. What matters is that Domain Authority(DA).
      As no search engine uses DA as a metric in their ranking algorithms, care to explain why it matters?
      Originally Posted by wholeheartmarketing View Post

      Yeah! Page Rank have main matter in SEO. According to layman’s terms, PageRank uses the number of links pointing to a web page to determine the value of that web page.
      How do you know what the PageRank of a page is?
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