Making Your Site Visible in Three Easy Steps

by kk075
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A lot of people have asked in the main forum lately about changes in Google and how they can get their websites more visibility, so I decided to throw together a quick little guide to get everyone started.

Ranking well on the search engines ultimately comes down to three things-

1) Your site's structure. Don't skim over the details, tell me EXACTLY what your domain is all about and go into VAST detail. Give the "cliffnotes version" on the main pages and then give internal links for others to find in-depth information that only an expert would have. That's why I tell all of my clients that their website should be 30 core pages minimum...the more you have, the easier it is to rank.

Then talk about all that stuff all over again in weekly blog posts. Just remember, QUALITY is essential, so do not take shortcuts building out your core content...hire a professional writer. People here ask all the time what "quality content" really means, but there's not a secret here...either your page copy is great or it isn't. Just look at your time on site metric- if it's under two minutes, then your content is not where it needs to be and Google is likely penalizing you for it.

2) Build out your social signals both on social and directory sites. Google wants to see you listed in hundreds of places and that information should point straight back to your homepage (not a sales pages). Most of these places will not be counted as backlinks, but it shows that you're serious about doing business and willing to put the time in to build a brand. Once you do steps 1 and 2, then you can get a few solid backlinks within your genre.

Why? Think about it for a moment. Obviously an authority site is not going to point to a squeeze page or a 3-5 page site just one week after it's built, and the search engines will ignore these types of links if they feel unnatural. So establish yourself first and then focus on quality backlinks. Just 5-10 solid links from major players in your industry are more valuable than 10,000 links from random, low-ranking sites...so forget about that old-school, black hat tactic of spamming half of cyberspace. It hurts more than it helps.

3) You must have traffic visiting your site, clicking on multiple pages and interacting with your site's elements. It doesn't have to be massive traffic, mind you, but a good site will be getting visitors from social sites and directories, forums like this one, the search engines and direct visits. This is what's considered natural traffic and it gets all of your pages indexed quickly.

And how do you get that traffic when you're first starting out? This goes back to step one- you have to have content that's worth reading in the first place. If you're only focus is posting solo ads to drive traffic back to you, then you're telling Google that the sale matters more than the person and there's no reason for you to ever rank. Once that's out of the way, then you start sharing blogs on social media, start conversations on industry forums, email potential customers directly and network like mad (in cyberspace and in the real world).

Here's a bonus tip- every time you post something new on your website, go check your ranking at Alexa. Why? Because Google pings Alexa, Twitter and similar sites almost every minute of the day since it makes their job of finding new content easier. So just ping your site through Alexa after each change and Google is able to index your site almost instantly. Of course, sitemaps help as well, so get them installed on day one.

I hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author KMCmarketing
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack107
    Really great post! Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Thanks for this post.

    If I may add one thing. The best way to build up #3 is to BUILD YOUR SITE around EXISTING TRAFFIC.

    Most people do it the other way around.

    That's why they struggle.

    How do you build your site around existing traffic? Make sure the keywords you're targeting actually have decent search volumes.

    Make sure your niche already has a following on social media.

    This way, you PLUG IN your online property to existing online traffic flows instead of having to pull traffic out of the thin blue air-difficult, time consuming, and expensive.
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    • Profile picture of the author kk075
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      Thanks for this post.

      If I may add one thing. The best way to build up #3 is to BUILD YOUR SITE around EXISTING TRAFFIC.

      Most people do it the other way around.

      That's why they struggle.

      How do you build your site around existing traffic? Make sure the keywords you're targeting actually have decent search volumes.

      Make sure your niche already has a following on social media.

      This way, you PLUG IN your online property to existing online traffic flows instead of having to pull traffic out of the thin blue air-difficult, time consuming, and expensive.
      That's a very good point and completely true. I thought I covered that in #'s 1 and 3, but after re-reading it you're right...I didn't make that perfectly clear. Everything that goes on our websites needs to be consumer focused and we need to build the discussions around people's biggest interests. As your visitors change, so should the conversations you get started.

      Thanks for adding that.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

    A lot of people have asked in the main forum lately about changes in Google and how they can get their websites more visibility, so I decided to throw together a quick little guide to get everyone started.
    Giving your site more visibility has nothing to do with the changes in google.

    Nothing you mentioned affects google.

    Of course there's a WSO. Go figure.

    I'll be a tad polite and leave it there, but man, the BS meter is off the chart.

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      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Giving your site more visibility has nothing to do with the changes in google.
      Paul
      I hope that this statement makes it clear to them, straight and specific.
      There is no connection between giving your site more visibility and with the changes in Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author kk075
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Giving your site more visibility has nothing to do with the changes in google.

      Nothing you mentioned affects google.

      Of course there's a WSO. Go figure.

      I'll be a tad polite and leave it there, but man, the BS meter is off the chart.

      Paul
      Where's a WSO? Not in my signature.

      And you're right, the BS meter is definitely off the charts. You didn't even bother to read my post, yet you had the stones to make things up like the people here are so incredibly stupid, they can't look for themselves and see bold-faced lies. And that's you being a tad polite?
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        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        You didn't even bother to read my post, yet you had the stones to make things up like the people here are so incredibly stupid, they can't look for themselves and see bold-faced lies.
        Maybe Paul and Kylie don't know what visibility is or means.
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    Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

    Then talk about all that stuff all over again in weekly blog posts. Just remember, QUALITY is essential, so do not take shortcuts building out your core content...hire a professional writer. People here ask all the time what "quality content" really means, but there's not a secret here...either your page copy is great or it isn't. Just look at your time on site metric- if it's under two minutes, then your content is not where it needs to be and Google is likely penalizing you for it.
    Posting weekly is not necessary to rank. You might be ranking with "evergreen" content.

    You should always look the stats as a whole, and not pick one of them in this manner. Same as bounce rate the time on site also depends on the type of traffic you're getting. Also, people often don't have time to read a long piece at some random moment, but they may save the link. Would count as a negative if you look it in this manner.

    And no, it's not likely that Google "penalizes" you for it. First, that word carries a meaning in SEO circles, and not ranking very well is not the same thing. Second, it's not even clear if Google tracks bounces or time on site, or how they use that data if they track it.

    To be fair, the structure of the site is very important.

    Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

    2) Build out your social signals both on social and directory sites. Google wants to see you listed in hundreds of places and that information should point straight back to your homepage (not a sales pages). Most of these places will not be counted as backlinks, but it shows that you're serious about doing business and willing to put the time in to build a brand. Once you do steps 1 and 2, then you can get a few solid backlinks within your genre.
    Google doesn't use social signals for anything. It's fine to get traffic from social and use some of the major services as an extension for your website, but don't fool yourself. It's very likely that it doesn't affect your search engine visibility at all. Even if there's a link, it's nofollow.

    Do you know what "social and directory sites" and Google wanting to see you in hundreds of pages sounds like? Why yes, it pretty much sounds like a bunch of low quality links. It's something you talk agains in the next paragraph which is why I find this confusing.

    Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

    This is what's considered natural traffic and it gets all of your pages indexed quickly.
    Traffic has nothing to do with getting your site indexed. Also getting your pages indexed quickly is fairly irrelevant. What you want is rankings, and it should not matter if it takes Google a few days to crawl and index your content.

    Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

    Here's a bonus tip- every time you post something new on your website, go check your ranking at Alexa. Why? Because Google pings Alexa, Twitter and similar sites almost every minute of the day since it makes their job of finding new content easier.
    Ignore Alexa. You may start to believe their crap statistics.

    Google may crawl Alexa often because it's a popular site. This is a common strategy to get your contents indexed faster, but you might just add an XML sitemap to Webmaster Tools and be done with it. I don't think the speed of indexation is even on the SEO check list - unless there's something wrong with it, or you're running some sort of churn and burn operation.

    Google has been, and still is, very bad at indexing tweets. They've got an agreement about making it better, but at this point it doesn't work.


    I don't agree with Paul's verdict. Nothing is off the chart, but this is fairly common when people write about SEO-related stuff. There's a lot of misconceptions, hyperbolic language, narrative that make it sound like Google actively makes decisions when it's mostly just an algorithm, and stuff that's just not directly related to SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author kk075
      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      Posting weekly is not necessary to rank. You might be ranking with "evergreen" content.
      Posting weekly is necessary to keep your rank, and it is the quickest way to gain initial rankings as well.

      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      You should always look the stats as a whole, and not pick one of them in this manner.
      I absolutely agree. But in the example I provided, the time on site stat worked the best since it shows direct engagement. You never heard me say to ignore all the other stats.

      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      And no, it's not likely that Google "penalizes" you for it. First, that word carries a meaning in SEO circles, and not ranking very well is not the same thing. Second, it's not even clear if Google tracks bounces or time on site, or how they use that data if they track it.
      It does carry a meaning in SEO circles, and if you knew anything about SEO, then you'd know that every indexed page basically gets a "report card" to determine rank. Bad content penalizes you. Bad linking, too many ads and dozens of other things does too. Call it what you will, but it's a penalty nonetheless.

      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      Google doesn't use social signals for anything.
      Google uses social signals for everything since their main focus is measuring engagement. Because that's the one set of statistics that can't be faked.

      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      Traffic has nothing to do with getting your site indexed.
      The more people visit your site, the more Google checks you for updates. I'm not sure how this isn't clear since it's been their policy since day 1. This was a post about ranking though, not just getting indexed. And you need traffic for both.

      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      Ignore Alexa. You may start to believe their crap statistics.
      I agree, their stats are all but worthless. But when you can have a new page indexed in 24-48 hours with a sitemap or instantly with Alexa, then the three seconds you'll spend typing in your site's address is a fair trade off.


      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      There's a lot of misconceptions, hyperbolic language, narrative that make it sound like Google actively makes decisions when it's mostly just an algorithm
      Maybe you've watched a little too much Star Trek as a kid, but the algorithm is updated by1,000+ employees dedicated to keeping dead-beat sites off of the top search pages. This happens from them actively making decisions...it is not some intelligent life form that changes on its own. I'm not sure how that's not clear.
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        Nope. It's neither necessary nor the quickest.
        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        Posting weekly is necessary to keep your rank, and it is the quickest way to gain initial rankings as well.

        Partially true. If I ask them to call me on my site, and they call me right away, they're engaging but time on the site sucks. I absolutely agree. But in the example I provided, the time on site stat worked the best since it shows direct engagement. You never heard me say to ignore all the other stats.

        When Google penalizes you, Google's doing something that affects you negatively. When you don't rank, it affects you negatively, but it is not always the result of a penalty. Using words carefully leads to better understanding.
        It does carry a meaning in SEO circles, and if you knew anything about SEO, then you'd know that every indexed page basically gets a "report card" to determine rank. Bad content penalizes you. Bad linking, too many ads and dozens of other things does too. Call it what you will, but it's a penalty nonetheless.

        Yes, you can fake social engagement. And there are people who sell fake engagement and people who buy it. Plus, to really use it, Google would have to have access to a lot of information sites like FaceBook.com want to keep to themselves. Google uses social signals for everything since their main focus is measuring engagement. Because that's the one set of statistics that can't be faked.

        No, again. I have sites with pages on #1 -10 in Google that get darn little traffic... I have sites with pages on 8-20 that get a lot more traffic, and I'm still on pages 8-20... keywords are similar in difficulty.

        The only time what you said happened is when I didn't touch a site and let ALL traffic die down and be dead for a few months.
        I have sites with pages on 8-20 that get a lot more traffic, and I'm still on pages 8-20... keywords are similar in difficulty.
        The more people visit your site, the more Google checks you for updates. I'm not sure how this isn't clear since it's been their policy since day 1. This was a post about ranking though, not just getting indexed. And you need traffic for both.

        It is, indeed, a fair trade if you care about being indexed instantly or within 24 hours. I don't. I can wait 3 days. I agree, their stats are all but worthless. But when you can have a new page indexed in 24-48 hours with a sitemap or instantly with Alexa, then the three seconds you'll spend typing in your site's address is a fair trade off.




        Maybe you've watched a little too much Star Trek as a kid, but the algorithm is updated by1,000+ employees dedicated to keeping dead-beat sites off of the top search pages. This happens from them actively making decisions...it is not some intelligent life form that changes on its own. I'm not sure how that's not clear.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Ok, I'm drifting a bit more towards Paul's opinion. You know, you're definitely not giving very good impression about your SEO knowledge.

        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        Posting weekly is necessary to keep your rank, and it is the quickest way to gain initial rankings as well.
        Keeping your rank depends just about everything out there, but you do not need to post weekly. I've been ranking for years with the same pieces of content with a site that's updated couple of times a year. Many business websites are very static, but still rank very well.

        It irks me that you practically describe one possible strategy, but then go on and hold it as the only one that works. It's possible that this approach just causes the site owner to do the wrong things. One quality post a week may sound dead easy to a seasoned content producer, but it's not for most of us, and the time has to be taken from something else.

        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        Call it what you will, but it's a penalty nonetheless.
        Penalty is a very poor description for something that's business as usual.

        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        Google uses social signals for everything since their main focus is measuring engagement. Because that's the one set of statistics that can't be faked.
        No. No, no, no, no.

        I'm not sure what's the problem here, but either you're selling something or have been drinking way too much of someone's Kool-Aid. There's simply no good data that Google uses ANY social signals for anything at this point. Even if they did, they'd probably probe just a select few sites because this is technically not easy. But even that doesn't seem to be the case.

        If you're using "social signals" in the meaning of "backlinks from a site that looks like a social media site", then that's just simply a backlink. Usually a very poor backlink.

        YouTube, another Google product, is all about engagement. Perhaps you're confusing the two? YouTube tracks engagement, and has it as a central metric. Google Search doesn't seem to have the same kind of scores.

        YouTube's engagement can be faked, and it's faked all the time. If Google Search had something similar, I'm sure it'd be done too. You know, by hiring people or building bots that are sophisticated enough.

        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        The more people visit your site, the more Google checks you for updates. I'm not sure how this isn't clear since it's been their policy since day 1. This was a post about ranking though, not just getting indexed. And you need traffic for both.
        Nope. Google can't even track the visits on most sites, and they say they don't use Analytics for this purpose. It's mind-boggling that you even make such an utterly ludicrous claim with a straight face, and claim that it's something that's always existed.

        Again, Google does not track your traffic. They may track the clicks from their search engine, because that might be useful for the search engine.

        The more you get your site backlinked, the more you increase your changes of getting your site crawled and articles indexed. This is kind of similar, but doesn't have anything to do with traffic per se.

        Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

        Maybe you've watched a little too much Star Trek as a kid, but the algorithm is updated by1,000+ employees dedicated to keeping dead-beat sites off of the top search pages. This happens from them actively making decisions...it is not some intelligent life form that changes on its own. I'm not sure how that's not clear.
        There's billions of websites, and Google's employees can review only handful of them. I'm not sure how this is not obvious to you. Also, algorithm changes are not the same thing as site reviews, and they're not done by the same people.
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