Lost mysite.com! Bought mysite.net, what now?

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In a horrible credit card expiration and subsequent missed email, one of my sites has been taken by a cyber squatter company. Just found out today; they got it less than a month ago. I have no idea if they will let me have it at a reasonable price; they are asking $2,000 publicly as if it going to auction. I have approached them to get it back but I won't pay extortion price.

My hosting company still had my pages and today I bought mysite.net and they just moved them over to the .net. Of course, this is the same copy but it has no SEO juice that the .com had. The site enjoyed terrific first page SERP. Dang, what a screwup.

The .net is now live with the exact pages that the .com had; is this a good idea? I have no idea if the other company will respond reasonably or if at all. If they don't, I will have to apply SEO to the .net. I wonder if I should go to the other sites I own which pointed to the .com and change the link to the .net.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    Did you miss just one email?

    I typically get two or three emails leading up to an expiration, as well as at least one that will let me reclaim it before it goes into the drop cycle.

    I hate to say it, but you really screwed up. If they don't feel charitable, you have no recourse. Pay the extortion and get your site back.

    It has to be worth it with page one rankings out there. I would move quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    That's how it goes with the domains. I've lost one when my first son was born, but it was still in the limbo with the registrar (grace period or whatever), so I only had to pay maybe $150-200 to get it back. German Joker ran their own little extortion racket back in the day at least...

    Mr. Gordon makes a good point above.

    If you're not willing to pay the price and have no legal recourse (they're cyber squatting, but you still might not have any way of grabbing the domain) using the new domain might be the best you can do.
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    Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

    What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I think every registrar I have ever used has this awesome setting for domains called 'auto-renew'.

    I would suggest that if a domain is important to you, enable it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I think every registrar I have ever used has this awesome setting for domains called 'auto-renew'.

      I would suggest that if a domain is important to you, enable it.
      That wasn't the issue Mike. He said it was a credit card expiration/missed email.

      Sucks, but it happens.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

        That wasn't the issue Mike. He said it was a credit card expiration/missed email.

        Sucks, but it happens.
        Shit. My bad.

        I have my renewals go through PayPal with a backup payment method attached to PayPal in case for some reason I do not have money in PayPal.

        I would recommend that in the future or for anyone else reading this.

        I cannot imagine losing a domain I cared about or was making money from. I would lose my mind over that.
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  • Profile picture of the author livemusic
    The owner responded by email and said that the price is set by an algorithm and furthermore that "our client does not negotiate." I don't get that... who is "his client?" The guy that wrote me, his last name is the same as his domain, so, I assume that he is the owner. He offered to let me pay 3 payments for the large amount and also said that the alternative is to wait, the price may change. Might go up, might go down, he said.

    I just checked my leads from this site and it's probably not worth spending any money on. Even though it has great SERP, for some reason, people are not contacting me much through it, some of my other sites get far more leads. But I have links on this site to some of my other sites, so, people could be hitting this site and navigating to one of my other sites and then contacting me. Occupying a first page SERP does have definite value, as it keeps a competitor off the first page. But, I think I will just let it go if he won't take a reasonable price. If I could get it back, I would make some changes to get better lead response. I have quite a few sites in this narrow niche, I guess I will just work on bumping up another of my second page SERP sites to, hopefully, first page SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author livemusic
      Can anyone tell me how I could find out the date when mysite.com "went down" in the eyes of Google?

      Second question being, how long after that date does the old SEO/SERP juice disappear? 60 days? 90? 180? 365? Any idea? (Meaning at what point does it not even matter to get the domain back and the site up and running as it was to recapture the juice?)
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by livemusic View Post

        Can anyone tell me how I could find out the date when mysite.com "went down" in the eyes of Google?

        Second question being, how long after that date does the old SEO/SERP juice disappear? 60 days? 90? 180? 365? Any idea? (Meaning at what point does it not even matter to get the domain back and the site up and running as it was to recapture the juice?)
        You really cannot find the date.

        As for the rankings, I would not expect them to disappear anytime soon as long as the links are alive. I've seen dead URLs that were still showing in the SERPs 4 weeks later before.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I wouldn't count on getting the old domain back. If it happens, fine but don't expect a miracle.

    Change all your links to the new .net domain today. If you own the majority of decent backlinks pointing at the .com backlink profile you might be able to get the .com back If the seller finds out all backlinks he thought he had are now toast.

    Go ahead & start optimizing the .net domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    You just need to ask if the price they're paying is worth it (e.g. how long would it take for the revenue you used to generate from the site to cover the cost you have to pay them unfortunately)

    If it's not worth it (you need to set your own judgement here), then yes, just repoint them to your new .net site.
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  • Profile picture of the author livemusic
    I wrote the squatter again and told him that yes, the site has some traffic but does not result in much income at all to me (I looked at my stats) and I would need to improve it if I could get it back to result in more sales, and I offered him a reasonable fee (in my mind). He simply said, "It's not negotiable."

    I have been back to the listing for mysite.com and it keeps going down in price. I don't know if the reduction will accelerate but it has gone down a bit every day. At this rate, it might take a month, even two, for it to get down to where I would pay it.

    I will work on the .net for now, assuming I will not get the .com back. Thanks for all advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author livemusic
      Can someone tell me the best (free, I hope) way to find the links which pointed to my old .com site? Or is there not a way? The site (with my old copy at mysite.com) is no longer up and running, I have transferred that to mysite.net. The .com now controlled by the cyber squatter appears as if it is a parked domain hoping to gather revenue by a links directory of similar search terms related to the domain name.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Do you not check your site(s) daily? If not, why? Things happen.

        Do you not check your site(s) at least weekly? If not, why?

        Do you not check your site(s) monthly? If not why?

        I mean, holy cow....you must not have checked it in ages...

        Read: You really did not care.

        My math is somewhere near 2 friggin' months.

        That's not cybersquatting. That's getting a domain that someone
        did not want anymore. Of course, you could have trademarked the
        domain...

        I would never have registered the .net. I would have picked a new
        one, started over. Oh, and by the way, I'd start caring about the website.

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  • Profile picture of the author neteater
    http://www.openlinkprofiler.org can help you to read all the links, its not as good as href but atleast its free.
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