Stuck in rankings suddenly. Need help.

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Hello guys. So I was searching the web about my problems and couldn't find the solution anywhere and thought of getting some help from people here. Exactly 3 months earlier, I've made my first 'niche' website ever with affiliated stuff in it. 8,100 searches a month exactly for the keyword and 2,500 monthly searches for related keywords. In total, the simple wordpress site has 5 posts and the domain purchased from hostgator. The main keyword has less than a million searches a month with no keyword targeting the first page. My on-page SEO is great. My main and related keywords are everywhere - Content, description, images, headings, domain name and meta titles etc. Images and content contains affiliate links. Content is unique and written by my friend 500 words minimum per post. So after all the studies and day/night work on web, i finally learnt how to put it on the first page for its main keyword. What I learnt was that after on page SEO, I simple need to do Off-Page SEO and get QUALITY backlinks. So that's what I've done:

Backlinks shown in GOOGLE webmaster tools:
Tumblr (web 2.0) - 250 links and 1000 more to be indexed.
Pinterest: 82 links few more to be indexed.
Reddit: 55 links
few forums: 90 links
google - yahoo: 20 links
blogspot: 1 link
related blog comments: 10 or so links
Visualize: 6 links

40 more social bookmarks links like stumbleupon etc to be STILL indexed by google which i created a month ago.

So after a month when i created this small niche site, I started to see rankings go up slowly. After 2 months in total, my site came on the 2nd page. First in the bottom, then in the middle and than at the top of 2nd page and I thought now it'd simply climb on the first page.

PROBLEM: Since it came on the 2nd page, its freaking STUCK! Been a month its stuck there! And slowly moving one position down being almost in the middle of 2nd page. That's where I get stuck and have no clue what went wrong now. No manual penalties in google webmaster tools, all pages are indexed, site speed is perfect and no security issues. I had to tell you each and everything about my site just so anybody can help me here. I can't find the solution anywhere honestly. Please guys, if anybody can help me out here that would be perfect. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    You may have witnessed a part of google's algorithm called "query deserves freshness" where the new content you put on earlier got inflated rankings because it's new and fresh.

    Have you done the analysis of the first page. How does your site, and your backlinks profile compare to the sites and pages ranking above you? The only thing to do is to keep building backlinks. The problem is that whilst you have a lot of backlinks built, they sound like relatively weak ones (I may be wrong) posted on pages that have little weight, social backlinks don't pass on any link juice because of the no follow tag.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lauren7
      The sites on 1st page are some articles from wikipedia and related typess and some google + posts. I literally have seen few niche site on the first page or 2nd WITH ONLY AFFILIATE link and NO content at all. I can show you examples. one of the sites say 'welcome to wordpress'. With only these backlinks, I'm keeping a moving position on the 2nd page. All of these backlinks are do follow (Pinterest, Reddit, google + and these social bookmarks). I wouldn't agree to being 'weak ones' because they are all authority and quality links with high PG rank. Thanks for your info but still didn't help what made it stuck there.
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      • Profile picture of the author ilee
        Originally Posted by Lauren7 View Post

        The sites on 1st page are some articles from wikipedia and related typess and some google + posts. I literally have seen few niche site on the first page or 2nd WITH ONLY AFFILIATE link and NO content at all. I can show you examples. one of the sites say 'welcome to wordpress'. With only these backlinks, I'm keeping a moving position on the 2nd page. All of these backlinks are do follow (Pinterest, Reddit, google + and these social bookmarks). I wouldn't agree to being 'weak ones' because they are all authority and quality links with high PG rank. Thanks for your info but still didn't help what made it stuck there.
        First off, forgive my bluntness, but there is nothing authority and quality about social bookmarks. They may be do follow, and the social sites may have authority, but the page on which your link resides, generally has little to no link value except direct visitors.

        Page rank hasn't been updated in nearly 2 years, and I'd just like to clarify that you're talking about the page rank for the actual page, rather than, say, the PR8 you see for reddit?

        If the wikipedia, google+ and other pages on first page aren't directly related and optimized for the keyword then it should be relatively low keyword competition. You can rank a page with no on-page SEO, minimal content and only backlinks, given enough link juice going into it. Check their backlink profiles! It's all in there.

        As for getting stuck, your page moves up if it is better optimized than the page above, and down if it is less optimized than the page below, as simple as that. If you're stuck, then you've probably hit competition that is better optimized. Maybe not in terms of content and on-page factors, but they would have made up for it with their backlinks.

        I apologise if I've come across as patronising here, I don't know you, and don't know how much you know about SEO, so it's best to start with the basics.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Originally Posted by Lauren7 View Post

    .... I simple need to do Off-Page SEO and get QUALITY backlinks. So that's what I've done:

    Backlinks shown in GOOGLE webmaster tools:
    Tumblr (web 2.0) - 250 links and 1000 more to be indexed.
    Pinterest: 82 links few more to be indexed.
    Reddit: 55 links
    few forums: 90 links
    google - yahoo: 20 links
    blogspot: 1 link
    related blog comments: 10 or so links
    Visualize: 6 links

    40 more social bookmarks links like stumbleupon etc to be STILL indexed by google which i created a month ago.
    Thats NOT quality; all that is spam and Google have treated you accordingly. Expect worse to come.
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  • Profile picture of the author canirankmel
    Lauren,

    Can you provide your site? I can put it through an SEO tool and see if there is anything it catches on the backend of things that might be holding you back for ranking.

    Cheers,
    Mel
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    Unfortunately, those social bookmarks don't have high Page Rank because they are deep in the website. If it was on the front page, then that would hold more weight. Have you cleared your computer cache and logged out of Google? Have you used different site tools to determine your rankings? Have you pinged your site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Lauren7
      Originally Posted by O0o0O View Post

      Unfortunately, those social bookmarks don't have high Page Rank because they are deep in the website. If it was on the front page, then that would hold more weight. Have you cleared your computer cache and logged out of Google? Have you used different site tools to determine your rankings? Have you pinged your site?
      Yes I did clear my laptop's cache and I checked it again without being logged in. No. I did not ping it as most people on the web don't recommend it. It's like early in the morning when I check my site's on the top of the 2nd page and at night it's in the middle every day lol. So what can be authority backlinks?
      Also note that google webmaster tools indexes my backlinks every week. They didn't index any backlinks this week but the last time when they indexed 100, rankings didn't move and are stuck since than.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lauren7
    Thank you all for your kind support in my interest. What I summarize from your reply is that I need to have more and quality backlinks. So What can be quality backlinks?
    I've done forums and blogs as-well. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    No offense but you're listing social stuff which has nothing to do with SEO.

    You need to learn how to analyze followed backlinks that matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lauren7
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      No offense but you're listing social stuff which has nothing to do with SEO.

      You need to learn how to analyze followed backlinks that matter.
      So, can you guide me for that or how to have quality backlinks?
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      • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
        Originally Posted by Lauren7 View Post

        So, can you guide me for that or how to have quality backlinks?
        Not one of the links to your site is natural or editorially given. Is your site worth linking to?
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        • Profile picture of the author Lauren7
          Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

          Not one of the links to your site is natural or editorially given. Is your site worth linking to?
          Yes duh. What could be the Quality links?
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    You just need NEW UNIQUE CONTENT! And of course if possible try optimizing it for the given keyword!
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      about back link.

      usually you guys how to implement?
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  • Profile picture of the author bryan2015
    Check your website on Google webmaster tool and do quality work to get keyword ranking and website promotion.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielmav
    Even we have faced the same problem. When our website is new, we're getting new backlinks from different sources, after month we're getting more and more number of backlinks from the same sources. So we need to try getting backlinks from more sources. Backlinks to source ratio should be good.
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