New Site Index Status Delay - How Long

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On new sites that have no inbound links, how long typically does it take to get indexed after you first submit it from the Crawl utility in Webmaster tools? (No sitemap)
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    Something from couple of days to a week. It's not too slow, but not instantaneous either.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnfsander
    If you have submitted your website in Google webmaster, Bing webmaster and submitted a site map as well than it will take some days. However if you want fast indexing, you should submit your website in top and high page rank social bookmarking websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    It completely depends on the type of on page optimization you have built in your web. If you consider taking my advice follow these three simple steps.

    1. Get your websites a proper sitemap and submit it to google webmaster.
    2. Set all the meta data of your pages.
    3. If your site have categories submit all those URL by using google fetch tool and submit it to index.
    4. Put some quality content, "Very important Factor". You are done.

    That's it you are done. Even platforms like wordpress and blogspot can get index in 2 hrs even in 1 minute. try googling this "Myweb in google,my way or highway"
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

      2. Set all the meta data of your pages.
      4. Put some quality content, "Very important Factor". You are done.
      What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the content or ranking, but getting a new site to Google's index.
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    Meta data and quality of the content is the key to get your website index fast. They guy up here posted a post with the title "New Site Index Status Delay - How Long". If suppose you have a website with poor content, A content that is all over the internet and it has no value and its on a new website, which you own! lol There is no chance that google will index you for a better position. It will index you but in a poor way. Now what is that. indexing with Bad meta data, which will end up putting your site on search with literally no meta data for user to read and figure what your page is about.

    Getting index is not the only thing. Everyone gets index getting indexed over the keyword you are triggering is a thing to do. Nutshell google will index your mud as well. Wait for it to be indexed or do it your way.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

      Meta data and quality of the content is the key to get your website index fast. They guy up here posted a post with the title "New Site Index Status Delay - How Long". If suppose you have a website with poor content, A content that is all over the internet and it has no value and its on a new website, which you own! lol There is no chance that google will index you for a better position. It will index you but in a poor way. Now what is that. indexing with Bad meta data, which will end up putting your site on search with literally no meta data for user to read and figure what your page is about.

      Getting index is not the only thing. Everyone gets index getting indexed over the keyword you are triggering is a thing to do. Nutshell google will index your mud as well. Wait for it to be indexed or do it your way.
      You are clueless. What you are describing as meta data sounds like you mean the meta description tag. You do not need to fill out the meta description to get indexed. In fact, it is better in a lot of cases NOT to fill it out and use dynamic meta descriptions instead. Either way though, the meta description has zero impact on getting indexed.

      Quality content also has zero impact on getting indexed, unlike what you said in your previous post.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

      lol There is no chance that google will index you for a better position. It will index you but in a poor way.
      Being indexed simply means that Google has added your site to their search. It's binary: your site either is in the index, or it is not. Yes, there's also things like supplemental index and sites being indexed partially for some reason, but there's no such thing as "index for a better position" or "index in a poor way".

      You seem to be talking about ranking, but making it so muddy it's very hard to follow what you're trying to say. Ranking deals with SE placements and increasing them. It's often a very different discussion. If your site is not indexed it's a reason for concern. Not ranking high is business as usual for most people.
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      • Profile picture of the author mringtone
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        Being indexed simply means that Google has added your site to their search. It's binary: your site either is in the index, or it is not. Yes, there's also things like supplemental index and sites being indexed partially for some reason, but there's no such thing as "index for a better position" or "index in a poor way".

        You seem to be talking about ranking, but making it so muddy it's very hard to follow what you're trying to say. Ranking deals with SE placements and increasing them. It's often a very different discussion. If your site is not indexed it's a reason for concern. Not ranking high is business as usual for most people.

        OK so how do you define indexing against one particular keyword and url against it? do you understand me now ?
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

          OK so how do you define indexing against one particular keyword and url against it? do you understand me now ?
          That doesn't make any sense. Again, you're (probably) talking about ranking. These words have their own meaning in the SEO jargon, and you can't use them as synonyms.

          Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

          What i tried to explain here is that everything will get index sooner or later.
          No, you did not. You claimed that indexing depends on the optimization of the site which is just wrong. Ranking was and still is off-topic for this particular thread, although I'm ok with expanding the discussion as long as it's clear what you're talking about. That's not been the case.

          Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

          Why digging it to personal.
          There's no personal attacks in this thread. We're just responding to the content of your comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    In developers term, Meta data means, Meta keywords,meta desc,meta title, and yes dynamic meta descriptions comes along in posts. You need to google some stuff up bro.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

      In developers term, Meta data means, Meta keywords,meta desc,meta title, and yes dynamic meta descriptions comes along in posts. You need to google some stuff up bro.
      Meta keywords, meta title, and meta descriptions have nothing to do with getting indexed.

      I almost always leave meta keywords and descriptions blank, like most good SEOs do.
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      • Profile picture of the author mringtone
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Meta keywords, meta title, and meta descriptions have nothing to do with getting indexed.

        I almost always leave meta keywords and descriptions blank, like most good SEOs do.

        As i said earlier google will even index your mud! what is the point of getting index when you don't have a meta data. How will google get to know that your site have "mango's" If there is no title explaining Mango's. Lets suppose google index your sites for the keyword "Mango's" even when you don't have that in meta data. What will you do , you are done with indexing. now what ? Your position on mango's will be 250.0 . The content quality will do justice to your position and will show more long tale keywords in your webmaster related to mango's. Your meta data will add spice in your webmaster to generate the right triggered keyword on which your site holds good positions.

        Seriously take a picture of a dog shit put it on your website google will index it. If getting indexed is the agenda here. You could then easily find your indexed dog shit by typing site:yoursite.com dog shit. "/"
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

          As i said earlier google will even index your mud! what is the point of getting index when you don't have a meta data. How will google get to know that your site have "mango's" If there is no title explaining Mango's. Lets suppose google index your sites for the keyword "Mango's" even when you don't have that in meta data. What will you do , you are done with indexing. now what ? Your position on mango's will be 250.0 . The content quality will do justice to your position and will show more long tale keywords in your webmaster related to mango's. Your meta data will add spice in your webmaster to generate the right triggered keyword on which your site holds good positions.

          Seriously take a picture of a dog shit put it on your website google will index it. If getting indexed is the agenda here. You could then easily find your indexed dog shit by typing site:yoursite.com dog shit. "/"

          First of all, the thread is about indexing, not ranking. You are intermixing the two.

          Second, you can rank without putting keywords in your title tag. It is not advisable, but it can be done and is done all the time.

          Third, you should never fill out meta keywords. They are not used by any of the major search engines, and are completely useless.

          Lastly, you should almost never, ever fill out the meta description tag. I've explained why numerous times on this forum and so have others. A well known example of never using meta descriptions is Wikipedia, and they rank for damn near everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It's not complicated, Fetch as Google in Webmaster Tools. Done.
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    Alright lets end this up i agree to first,second,third. where as your Last point is concerned. "You should almost never, ever fill out the meta description tag." I think if you are not putting a meta desc you are allowing google to find the best result of your page to be shown in google results under your url. Instead of adding your own meta desc to attract the right audience for your product. I rest my case here stay blessed
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by mringtone View Post

      Alright lets end this up i agree to first,second,third. where as your Last point is concerned. "You should almost never, ever fill out the meta description tag." I think if you are not putting a meta desc you are allowing google to find the best result of your page to be shown in google results under your url. Instead of adding your own meta desc to attract the right audience for your product. I rest my case here stay blessed

      Yes, exactly. That's the point. There might be 300 different search terms people use to find your page. Let Google pick the description that best matches their search query. You will get better click through rates that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    Dear all, The question made by the person is

    "On new sites that have no inbound links, how long typically does it take to get indexed after you first submit it from the Crawl utility in Webmaster tools? (No sitemap)"

    What i tried to explain here is that everything will get index sooner or later. Its up to you how you want to do it and i added a little more information regarding ranking on those indexed urls.

    Is there a fair i mean everyone jumps in say no you are wrong, I am the specialist here, The second pops up say no i am the specialist. Why cant we just let the discussion move on, Correct some one if he/she is wrong. Why digging it to personal. "Fruitful thought"
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  • Profile picture of the author mringtone
    I rest my case its point less everything in google is linked i shared my point. Thank you
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