Importance of nofollow

8 years ago

never helpful in any terms because if google allow no follow link will be helpful then his business of ppc going to shutdown.

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Ultrasonic

8 years ago

I don't think Google has been throughly remove value of nofollow links, even if no value for seo, I always believe that Wikipedia is worth doing because its high ranking and exposure on Google, but it is hard for me to get link into Wikipedia.

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fastreplies 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

... but it is hard for me to get link into Wikipedia.

Thank you, thank you God for one of your miracles!!!!!!!!!!

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paulgl

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

I don't think Google has been throughly remove value of nofollow links, even if no value for seo, I always believe that Wikipedia is worth doing because its high ranking and exposure on Google, but it is hard for me to get link into Wikipedia.

Exposure is one thing....the other is crapola.

Google (their employees) invented nofollow. So one would assume they
can remove anything they want.

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AliKashif7

8 years ago

never.. this is impossible. the updates of google cant rank them.. because this will a huge blast for marketers.. and others expert..

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by dianapenti

Dear Experts,
As we know Wikipedia is a nofollow but backlink from wikipedia is like a thumb up from president for Google...
Very Little amount of wiki backlinks can rank a site..
What about importance of nofollow?

If next update of google will be a good for nofollow backlinks what you say???..

You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Just a bunch of off the wall 3rd world rambling.

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Ultrasonic

8 years ago

I have not seen a high-ranking website without nofollow links, social links are valuable although being nofollow, So that the key is that you have the links from relevant and valuable content.

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DABK

8 years ago

Accurate thinking is important even though most people, including you, don't indulge in it.

The question is not: Are nofollow links useless from any point of view? The question is: Are nofollow links useful for SEO?

Here's where accurate thinking comes into play:

If you know nofollow links don't help SEO you don't go and create a ton of them, for the sake of creating them.

If you create some, as in you choose to participate in some kind of social media activity the way you create it is different, you actually participate in the site in a manner that other people who visit that site find engaging, so that they visit your site and buy whatever it is you're selling.

I've never seen someone get promoted who didn't show up for work regularly is a lot like what you said about nofollow links. People don't get promoted because they show up for work regularly; showing up for work regularly allows them to do the other things that cause them to get promoted...

The fact that you've not seen a site rank that doesn't have nofollow links can only mean 2 things:
1. you didn't look well
2. whois, what's the value of your site, and similar sites exists and create nofollow link to any site as soon as they find out it exists.

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

I have not seen a high-ranking website without nofollow links, social links are valuable although being nofollow, So that the key is that you have the links from relevant and valuable content.

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Ultrasonic

8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

Accurate thinking is important even though most people, including you, don't indulge in it.

The question is not: Are nofollow links useless from any point of view? The question is: Are nofollow links useful for SEO?

Here's where accurate thinking comes into play:

If you know nofollow links don't help SEO you don't go and create a ton of them, for the sake of creating them.

If you create some, as in you choose to participate in some kind of social media activity the way you create it is different, you actually participate in the site in a manner that other people who visit that site find engaging, so that they visit your site and buy whatever it is you're selling.

I've never seen someone get promoted who didn't show up for work regularly is a lot like what you said about nofollow links. People don't get promoted because they show up for work regularly; showing up for work regularly allows them to do the other things that cause them to get promoted...

The fact that you've not seen a site rank that doesn't have nofollow links can only mean 2 things:
1. you didn't look well
2. whois, what's the value of your site, and similar sites exists and create nofollow link to any site as soon as they find out it exists.

First, let me comfirm the question that I replied: "what about importance of nofollow?" Obviously the importance is beyond SEO.

Doesn't matter, just as you said "Are nofollow links useful for SEO?" My answer is still "yes".

1) As I mentioned before the high-ranking website has nofollow link more or less, why we always emphasized the importance of nature backlinks but we don't do that, diverse links mixing with nofollow link can make your backlinks look more nature.

2) Content reprinted. That's why I said we should build links from valuable content, one of the reasons is that high-qulity content have more chance to be reprinted to other dofollow websites together with your links.

3) Seo is not only for Google, I don't know the other search engines how to deal with nofollow tag, just the same as Google? May be, maybe none.

Maybe nofollow links are not very important, but it's useful for SEO.

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DABK

8 years ago

1. Everybody has nofollow links. From whois type of sites, etc. So, what's the point of creating them, if the goal is just to have some nofollow?

2. Yes, it has a chance of being reprinted. It also has a chance of being reprinted by someone who adds the nofollow tag.

A very effort-intensive, indirect way of maybe getting link juice. Why do it when there are more effective, and more certain, ways?

Even if your content is good, how do you know they don't just email it to people? Or they don't just tweet about it? Or bookmark it on sites that give nofollow links?

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

First, let me comfirm the question that I replied: "what about importance of nofollow?" Obviously the importance is beyond SEO.

Doesn't matter, just as you said "Are nofollow links useful for SEO?" My answer is still "yes".

1) As I mentioned before the high-ranking website has nofollow link more or less, why we always emphasized the importance of nature backlinks but we don't do that, diverse links mixing with nofollow link can make your backlinks look more nature.

2) Content reprinted. That's why I said we should build links from valuable content, one of the reasons is that high-qulity content have more chance to be reprinted to other dofollow websites together with your links.

3) Seo is not only for Google, I don't know the other search engines how to deal with nofollow tag, just the same as Google? May be, maybe none.

Maybe nofollow links are not very important, but it's useful for SEO.

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Ultrasonic

8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

1. Everybody has nofollow links. From whois type of sites, etc. So, what's the point of creating them, if the goal is just to have some nofollow?

2. Yes, it has a chance of being reprinted. It also has a chance of being reprinted by someone who adds the nofollow tag.

A very effort-intensive, indirect way of maybe getting link juice. Why do it when there are more effective, and more certain, ways?

Even if your content is good, how do you know they don't just email it to people? Or they don't just tweet about it? Or bookmark it on sites that give nofollow links?

I certainly would not recommend you to creat nofollow links purposefully, the point is to creat links from relevant and valuable contents, I think that's the effective and certain work we should do rather than excessively caring about tags.

Link juice is well, however, just take consideration , we get it for what? If someone enter our website via an authoritative and relevant page such as Wikipedia , Is this not our ultimate goal?

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Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

I certainly would not recommend you to creat nofollow links purposefully, the point is to creat links from relevant and valuable contents, I think that's the effective and certain work we should do rather than excessively caring about tags.

Link juice is well, however, just take consideration , we get it for what? If someone enter our website via an authoritative and relevant page such as Wikipedia , Is this not our ultimate goal?

Not on the SEO forums, No. Our goal on these forums is to improve the ranking of the site, not get traffic. You do not seem to understand the goal of SEO, it's not to get traffic, it's not to make content, and it's certainly not to build links of zero SEO value. It's to improve our rankings in google and ideally get to the first position for a specific search term.

It should be well known that the first spot in the organic listing of google will receive the highest click rate and also the highest conversion rate.

So go ahead, sit there and build a bunch of no follow links to your site to build up a flow of traffic while I build up a flow of customers.

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

Doesn't matter, just as you said "Are nofollow links useful for SEO?" My answer is still "yes".

If your strategy is to build nofollow links for traffic that's fine, BUT IT'S NOT SEO. Get over it, rock is not water, elvis is dead, the earth is not flat, ghosts are not real, there's no secret system to winning the lottery and nofollow link building is not SEO.

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Ultrasonic

8 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

Not on the SEO forums, No. Our goal on these forums is to improve the ranking of the site, not get traffic. You do not seem to understand the goal of SEO, it's not to get traffic, it's not to make content, and it's certainly not to build links of zero SEO value. It's to improve our rankings in google and ideally get to the first position for a specific search term.

It should be well known that the first spot in the organic listing of google will receive the highest click rate and also the highest conversion rate.

So go ahead, sit there and build a bunch of no follow links to your site to build up a flow of traffic while I build up a flow of customers.

If your strategy is to build nofollow links for traffic that's fine, BUT IT'S NOT SEO. Get over it, rock is not water, elvis is dead, the earth is not flat, ghosts are not real, there's no secret system to winning the lottery and nofollow link building is not SEO.

I showed that why nofollow has value for SEO, then you just replied me nofollow is not SEO. All right, thanks for your truth, you beat me.

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nettiapina 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

I showed that why nofollow has value for SEO, then you just replied me nofollow is not SEO. All right, thanks for your truth, you beat me.

You know, the points you made were pretty lousy. DABK actually took the time to answer them, but in my opinion they don't really even need answers.

1) Pet theory of some link spammers. Not much evidence to support this hypothesis.
2) Do you really want links from scrapers and other such sites?
3) Speculation about something that's not relevant to most people here.

If you're talking about sites that give nofollow links, but where the potential benefit is something other than the link I'd suggest you actually describe what you're aiming for. For example, Facebook might be good for content marketing and link outreach. Same goes for Reddit. The links carry no direct SEO benefit, but if you engage industry contacts or rabid fanboys... You know, that might get you juicy links.
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DABK 8 years ago

No, you didn't show that nofollow has value for SEO; you showed that nofollow can get you traffic from the page the nofollow link is on.

That is not SEO.

Success in business is based upon accurate thinking.

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I showed that why nofollow has value for SEO, then you just replied me nofollow is not SEO. All right, thanks for your truth, you beat me.
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DABK

8 years ago

If you are not recommending creating nofollow links on purpose why even bother talking about them?

If the goal is to have visitors from Wikipedia, why even talk about nofollow links?

But, if you're talking about nofollow links, it helps if you talk about them accurately. Nofollow links are useless from the point of SEO. Nofollow links can get you direct traffic from the page they are on. But that's not SEO. Which means, you strategy is going to be different than if it were SEO.

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic

I certainly would not recommend you to creat nofollow links purposefully, the point is to creat links from relevant and valuable contents, I think that's the effective and certain work we should do rather than excessively caring about tags.

Link juice is well, however, just take consideration , we get it for what? If someone enter our website via an authoritative and relevant page such as Wikipedia , Is this not our ultimate goal?

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chrisjohn93

8 years ago

No-follow back links from highly reported website still matter for Google as Ranking factor of your website.. All the no-follow links are not helpful for your website, its just for traffic source for your website.

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KylieSweet

8 years ago

It doesn't matter whether if it is no follow or do follow as long as the link contains the interesting and beneficial content in which delivers great user experience. Google consider these qualifications to make your site as a hub of information to the users.

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TotalWebsiteControl

8 years ago

nofollow doesn't help your rankings... i thought this was common sense lol

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yukon Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl

nofollow doesn't help your rankings... i thought this was common sense lol

It is common sense that's why some of these guys aren't ranking any pages, no common sense.

The one yahoo even keyword stuffed his forum profile name, lmao, along with a nofollow forum sig.

Clearly spam is all that matters here, ranking pages isn't happening.
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nettiapina

8 years ago

Originally Posted by dianapenti

As we know Wikipedia is a nofollow but backlink from wikipedia is like a thumb up from president for Google...

That's actually a really good analogy. As in Google doesn't give a crap about either of those.

When the press gets all about that thumb up from POTUS, and Fox News brainfarts something about Benghazi or whatever talking points they've got running at the moment, and every politics blogger just has to cover it to overanalyze the meaning of this gesture - then you know there's some link juice flowing around.

Does that happen with your Wikipedia article? I'd bet that the answer is no unless you're the Most Interesting Man in the World.

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ajsahi

according to my view it is not important in view of back linking because google do not allow it any way
so you can not gain any traffic from this sites or this method

red regard

You can gain direct traffic from a nofollow, assuming the link is on a targeted webpage.

I have a few thousand nofollow forum links, they don't rank pages but do bring in direct traffic.

The key with that is targeted traffic. Dropping nofollow links on random sites/pages is useless, no direct traffic (none that converts ($$)) & no SEO since the link is nofollow.

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dronehawk

8 years ago

Nofollow helps prevent people from spamming such sites with their links

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TotalWebsiteControl

8 years ago

nofollow can get you traffic nobody questions that. But if you think that somehow a nofollow link will increase your rankings at all then you are sadly mistaken. You could have 10,000 nofollow links and you would be better off having 1 dofollow link (in terms of seo)

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iharrythomas

8 years ago

Both do follow and no follow have the equal importance. The backlink signifies that if reader of content is not getting the answer, then he can go to the link for more details if the visitors is getting his desired answer which he is seeking for, then it would count as a good backlink which obviously have the major impact on search engine, and it doesn't matter whether it is do follow or no follow

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HarryBajwa

8 years ago

Nofollow link can increase your website traffic but can't help to improve website ranking in search engine.

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Jimbrown123

8 years ago

Google isn't very clear about how it uses nofollow in its algorithm. It would look rational to use the fact one of your page is linked from wikipedia as a trust boost even if it's a nofollow link. Chances are you don't get link juice, but it could be a positive signal for Google.

Anyway, having nofollow backlinks won't harm your SEO, an ideal link profile has follow and nofollow backlinks. It's just "natural".

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TotalWebsiteControl

8 years ago

I don't see why people still value nofollow for seo value. Come on guys... its 2015....

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