$4,000+ to invest on an brand new Authority Website which its main traffic source is SEO

by Wowali
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Heeey!

I'm one of the internet marketers who need instant traffic on their websites/products. I have never been in SEO, just want to start an authority website about a high competition(SEO and PPC) niche that upfront based on SEO and some paid ads.

Now, I'm struggling to build my own long-term business by growing it up using both of content marketing and email marketing.

But as a start, I took me awhile to understand the real SEO, one of the best practices to get ranked fast and clean without getting banned by a Google animal is: Link with high quality backlinks.
Great content, on-page SEO and following the rest 200 signals as well..

As I said before, I have never been on SEO, I have never been penalized from Google, I have never been requested a share/link from a webmaster.. so that I got some questions that I hope to be answered by SEO experts.

1) Is buying links/shares from webmasters considered as black hat SEO?
2) What is the best way to buy a link without reveal it as paid link?
3) Contacting webmasters doesn't mean they will respond to you all. What about a community to exchange links, is there a one?
4) After buying a share/link, which place is good to put our links? posts, home page..

As I mentioned in the title, $4k to invest.... yeees, we have decided to invest it almost all on High Quality links because it's the key to be ranked and there's no way to be ranked without backlinks

Hope it will be a info exchange thread.. waiting for BL experts
#authority #brand #invest #main #seo #source #traffic #website
  • Profile picture of the author irawr
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    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    Great content, on-page SEO and following the rest 200 signals as well..
    Oh boy... It sounds like you got sold a heaping pile of bull**** from Brain Dean. There's one ranking factor that actually matters, followed backlinks from contextually relevant sites.

    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    1) Is buying links/shares from webmasters considered as black hat SEO?
    Okay there's a lot of confusion on this subject, first of all, social shares do nothing for SEO. If you buy links, make sure you do it in a way where nobody knows you are doing it. As far as it being "blackhat" no.

    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    2) What is the best way to buy a link without reveal it as paid link?
    Email or contact them in a private message on social media

    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    3) Contacting webmasters doesn't mean they will respond to you all. What about a community to exchange links, is there a one?
    Terrible idea

    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    4) After buying a share/link, which place is good to put our links? posts, home page..
    You want the links to appear in the body of the content, the content should be related to your site's content and the site this content appears on should be about similar content.

    Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    As I mentioned in the title, $4k to invest.... yeees, we have decided to invest it almost all on High Quality links because it's the key to be ranked and there's no way to be ranked without backlinks
    Without knowing what niche or what keywords you are going for, 4k could be absolute apocalyptic overkill, or nothing more then a dent in what you need to spend to rank.

    I would start out by identifying the intention of the website and understanding what techniques are conducive to ranking. If this site is commercial in nature then you need to go through an acquisition process to carefully evaluate targets and what the best way is to go about actually getting a link. If may not cost money but it will certainly take time. If the site is more social in nature then I suggest a solid content marketing strategy and this generally does not utilize paid links. If the site is somewhere in the middle you do a bit of both.

    Link acquisition is SURGICAL in nature, you should not even think about buying 100s of links. You only want to acquire highly relevant links from highly authoritative sources, this is always handled directly with the publisher/operator. I also suggest you "cover up" any paid links with at least a little bit of content marketing to create a "smoke cloud" of backlinks.

    Edit: Also, find a clever way to word your initial link acquisition requests. Say you are looking for a "custom native media solution" and be a company, sound very professional, you're the CEO, if you're not incorporated, I would fix that problem first. Get into a dialog with them before you spell out exactly what you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wowali
      Originally Posted by irawr View Post

      Oh boy... It sounds like you got sold a heaping pile of bull**** from Brain Dean. There's one ranking factor that actually matters, followed backlinks from contextually relevant sites.



      Okay there's a lot of confusion on this subject, first of all, social shares do nothing for SEO. If you buy links, make sure you do it in a way where nobody knows you are doing it. As far as it being "blackhat" no.



      Email or contact them in a private message on social media



      Terrible idea



      You want the links to appear in the body of the content, the content should be related to your site's content and the site this content appears on should be about similar content.



      Without knowing what niche or what keywords you are going for, 4k could be absolute apocalyptic overkill, or nothing more then a dent in what you need to spend to rank.

      I would start out by identifying the intention of the website and understanding what techniques are conducive to ranking. If this site is commercial in nature then you need to go through an acquisition process to carefully evaluate targets and what the best way is to go about actually getting a link. If may not cost money but it will certainly take time. If the site is more social in nature then I suggest a solid content marketing strategy and this generally does not utilize paid links. If the site is somewhere in the middle you do a bit of both.

      Link acquisition is SURGICAL in nature, you should not even think about buying 100s of links. You only want to acquire highly relevant links from highly authoritative sources, this is always handled directly with the publisher/operator. I also suggest you "cover up" any paid links with at least a little bit of content marketing to create a "smoke cloud" of backlinks.

      Edit: Also, find a clever way to word your initial link acquisition requests. Say you are looking for a "custom native media solution" and be a company, sound very professional, you're the CEO, if you're not incorporated, I would fix that problem first. Get into a dialog with them before you spell out exactly what you want.
      Man, you and your details are awesome

      Yes, I choose a niche that I have lot of free info to deliver and yes, I will use that content marketing strategies to attract visitors.. I'm not planning to make niche websites to earn some hundreds a month from Adsense.. I want to grow my business, then money will come.

      Please, could I get more details about that part of your comment: "I also suggest you "cover up" any paid links with at least a little bit of content marketing to create a "smoke cloud" of backlinks."

      Thank you again for your valuable details
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  • Originally Posted by Wowali View Post

    Heeey!

    I'm one of the internet marketers who need instant traffic on their websites/products. I have never been in SEO, just want to start an authority website about a high competition(SEO and PPC) niche that upfront based on SEO and some paid ads.

    Now, I'm struggling to build my own long-term business by growing it up using both of content marketing and email marketing.

    But as a start, I took me awhile to understand the real SEO, one of the best practices to get ranked fast and clean without getting banned by a Google animal is: Link with high quality backlinks.
    Great content, on-page SEO and following the rest 200 signals as well..

    As I said before, I have never been on SEO, I have never been penalized from Google, I have never been requested a share/link from a webmaster.. so that I got some questions that I hope to be answered by SEO experts.

    1) Is buying links/shares from webmasters considered as black hat SEO?
    2) What is the best way to buy a link without reveal it as paid link?
    3) Contacting webmasters doesn't mean they will respond to you all. What about a community to exchange links, is there a one?
    4) After buying a share/link, which place is good to put our links? posts, home page..

    As I mentioned in the title, $4k to invest.... yeees, we have decided to invest it almost all on High Quality links because it's the key to be ranked and there's no way to be ranked without backlinks

    Hope it will be a info exchange thread.. waiting for BL experts
    1. no this is not the definition of blackhat seo
    2. buy links from reputable members.
    3. not a good idea since you want the least amount of out bound links you can get.
    4. the pages with the highest PR. mostly homepage but it is harder to get these in most cases.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

      2. buy links from reputable members.
      4. the pages with the highest PR. mostly homepage but it is harder to get these in most cases.
      2. If you are buying links directly from members here, you have already failed. Reach out to top players and smaller players in your actual niche, not the moronic masses of Warrior Forum.

      4. You have no idea of what the PR is of any page on the internet. It has been 2 years since Google released a public update of that data. If anyone is selling you a link based on PR, they are either intentionally trying to scam you or they are clueless about what they are doing. In either case, avoid them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wowali
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        2. If you are buying links directly from members here, you have already failed. Reach out to top players and smaller players in your actual niche, not the moronic masses of Warrior Forum.

        4. You have no idea of what the PR is of any page on the internet. It has been 2 years since Google released a public update of that data. If anyone is selling you a link based on PR, they are either intentionally trying to scam you or they are clueless about what they are doing. In either case, avoid them.
        2) Good advice.
        4) Please, explain more..
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      • Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        2. If you are buying links directly from members here, you have already failed. Reach out to top players and smaller players in your actual niche, not the moronic masses of Warrior Forum.

        4. You have no idea of what the PR is of any page on the internet. It has been 2 years since Google released a public update of that data. If anyone is selling you a link based on PR, they are either intentionally trying to scam you or they are clueless about what they are doing. In either case, avoid them.

        I will admit that most of the warrior for hire services is bad but there are some good ones if you look hard enough. Also you can still find the PR of a domain google just doesn't update it anymore... right? or am i missing something?
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

          I will admit that most of the warrior for hire services is bad but there are some good ones if you look hard enough. Also you can still find the PR of a domain google just doesn't update it anymore... right? or am i missing something?
          What if the PR dropped massively since the updated 2 years ago? To be fair, from experience, the metrics do not matter as much as the relevancy of the content the link is on. So if the service just drips links through a sidebar, then that's trash. It will help, but it's not going to produce a drastic increase in ranks on competitive keywords, and as more people use the service, it won't last.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

          I will admit that most of the warrior for hire services is bad but there are some good ones if you look hard enough. Also you can still find the PR of a domain google just doesn't update it anymore... right? or am i missing something?
          Obviously the data is very outdated. But very often a link that's sold as "PR X" is not even on that strong page. It's very typical that you get a new article on a new weak page.
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          Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
          Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

          What's your excuse?
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    • Profile picture of the author Wowali
      Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

      1. no this is not the definition of blackhat seo
      2. buy links from reputable members.
      3. not a good idea since you want the least amount of out bound links you can get.
      4. the pages with the highest PR. mostly homepage but it is harder to get these in
      most cases.
      Please, what do mean by "buy links from reputable members"..
      For PR, do you think it still works? Maybe I have to look to other metrics like PA, DA and Root domains!

      Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author footfoot
    buy an existing site on flippa instead of starting from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wowali
      Originally Posted by footfoot View Post

      buy an existing site on flippa instead of starting from scratch.
      Oh... Well said! You think outside the box.
      I will add this note to my to do list hoping it help to see numbers from scratch
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