Would a PBN network work for sites outside the US?

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Hello Great Warriors,
I have a question for you.
Do you think that a PBN network would work outside the US if I use it to rank an italian website?
The answer that I would give myself is "of course not, because the websites used are not italian" but I would also like to hear your opinion about this.

Thank you in advance,
Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Why wouldn't it? If they are good links, they are good links.
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    Hmmm - this is quite a tricky one.

    Mike you ask why wouldn't it?

    Maybe the point is, (I am assuming here he is talking about where the PBN is hosted in terms of the country (say U.S.) vs where the italian site is hosted (say I.T.))

    I've had a nasty feeling recently that some of my inbound links are not having any effect - or less than expected in terms of ranking the target page. The data I have is limited IE not many examples - but gut feeling is telling me international links aren't as strong.

    So - focusing ONLY on IP locations as a potential weighting value on a link pair - as a signal - I am coming to the conclusion that ....

    UK -> UK = strong
    US -> US = strong
    UK -> US = weaker
    US -> UK = weaker

    (just for illustrative purposes)

    My data sample is very small though I have to admit, and blurred by other factors naturally - but I have this gut feeling.......

    Tricky.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrea Rillo
      Originally Posted by TractorHead View Post

      Hmmm - this is quite a tricky one.

      Mike you ask why wouldn't it?

      Maybe the point is, (I am assuming here he is talking about where the PBN is hosted in terms of the country (say U.S.) vs where the italian site is hosted (say I.T.))

      I've had a nasty feeling recently that some of my inbound links are not having any effect - or less than expected in terms of ranking the target page. The data I have is limited IE not many examples - but gut feeling is telling me international links aren't as strong.

      So - focusing ONLY on IP locations as a potential weighting value on a link pair - as a signal - I am coming to the conclusion that ....

      UK -> UK = strong
      US -> US = strong
      UK -> US = weaker
      US -> UK = weaker

      (just for illustrative purposes)

      My data sample is very small though I have to admit, and blurred by other factors naturally - but I have this gut feeling.......

      Tricky.
      I see. In fact there are no PBNs in Italy, that's why I was asking. Maybe I should think abuot creating one myself.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Andrea Rillo View Post

        I see. In fact there are no PBNs in Italy, that's why I was asking. Maybe I should think abuot creating one myself.
        I doubt you could know there's no PBNs in Italy. You would have to know every single domain backlink profile & not just ccTLDs either.
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      • Originally Posted by Andrea Rillo View Post

        I see. In fact there are no PBNs in Italy, that's why I was asking. Maybe I should think abuot creating one myself.

        That's silly saying there are no pbns in italy. How could you know for sure?
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        • Profile picture of the author konradbraun
          Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

          That's silly saying there are no pbns in italy. How could you know for sure?
          Agreed. It's like saying there is no Gold in China. How can you be sure? Have you physically looked beneath each rock?

          In the case of PBNs, the whole idea is that you don't know they exist. Isn't that why they are called Private blog networks?

          Anyhow, love playing devil's advocate.

          This whole "local links help local sites more" concept is not new. It is in fact the case... same with country specific domains. For example: if I wanted to only rank my site in Canada and beat out broad competition, I would focus on getting relevant backlinks from .ca sites.
          In fact, I would focus more on the .ca factor than the "where server is located" factor. The .ca extension clearly indicates it is a Canadian site, whereas the IP of it's host itself does not say much at all. It is the World Wide Web (WWW) afterall... and Google knows this.

          Unless you are only wanting to rank in Italy though (say "hi" to Pope Francis for me btw), I wouldn't worry much about either though.

          I hope it helps

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          • Profile picture of the author irawr
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            Originally Posted by konradbraun View Post

            For example: if I wanted to only rank my site in Canada and beat out broad competition, I would focus on getting relevant backlinks from .ca sites.
            You mean I can have 4 sites in the same niche, targeting 4 different English speaking goes? That's crazy talk.

            Pro tip: if you get a good translator, you can dominate in certain countries/niches. There's a few countries that haven't gotten the memo about followed links. The entire country...

            Edit: anybody know a good isp in Jamaica? This company seems a bit pricey ... http://hbjamaica.com/hosting.html

            Edit2: I'm an idiot, that's Jamaican dollars. Man their currency is awful.
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    We tried many PBN networks, and found that the best results came from IP range from US if you target US clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author multiplecloud
    Use ip address specific from Italian IP or Europe ip for rank your Italian website
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by multiplecloud View Post

      Use ip address specific from Italian IP or Europe ip for rank your Italian website
      You've got "cloud" in your nick so you should probably know that IP addresses are not that important today. Well, obviously your post is thinly veiled sig spam, but still...

      Do PBNs work in countries other than US? They might be even more effective. There's less competition, and Google's spam controls are sometimes years behind in less important markets.
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      • Profile picture of the author dewalds86
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        You've got "cloud" in your nick so you should probably know that IP addresses are not that important today. Well, obviously your post is thinly veiled sig spam, but still...

        Do PBNs work in countries other than US? They might be even more effective. There's less competition, and Google's spam controls are sometimes years behind in less important markets.
        That is interesting. I though googles algorithm affects all searchers equily in all countries. So you are saying their spam filters might not be as effective in my country as it is in the US?
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by dewalds86 View Post

          That is interesting. I though googles algorithm affects all searchers equily in all countries. So you are saying their spam filters might not be as effective in my country as it is in the US?
          I think their filters are pretty much identical.

          What is drastically different is the size and efforts of the spam team.
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  • Profile picture of the author dewalds86
    Originally Posted by Andrea Rillo View Post

    Hello Great Warriors,
    I have a question for you.
    Do you think that a PBN network would work outside the US if I use it to rank an italian website?
    The answer that I would give myself is "of course not, because the websites used are not italian" but I would also like to hear your opinion about this.

    Thank you in advance,
    Andrea
    Why dont you just create an itallian PBN network?
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