Why do people say SEO is dead?

8 years ago

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Can anyone explain why a large amount of people keep claiming SEO is dead? Is there any Truth or Merritt to this statement? Are search engines trying to destroy SEO in order for PPC to be dominant?

Because they're either clueless or baiting for clicks.

Google search is one of the biggest platforms selling PPC. SEO is just a parasitic phenomenon around this popular service.

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Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

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hipeopo02

8 years ago

"seo is dead"

around 600 global searches a month at almost $4 dollars CPC rate....

The phrase has (some) marketing value at least according to adwords.

but yeah it's clickbait and people who do cookie cutter seo, fail, and blame it on the death of seo because in their mind they did everything right and so it couldn't possibly be their fault.....:/

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Can anyone explain why a large amount of people keep claiming SEO is dead? Is there any Truth or Merritt to this statement? Are search engines trying to destroy SEO in order for PPC to be dominant?

Yes, SEO is dead.

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Can anyone explain why a large amount of people keep claiming SEO is dead? Is there any Truth or Merritt to this statement? Are search engines trying to destroy SEO in order for PPC to be dominant?

Yes. "SEO" is dead. I tell that to every SEO service that calls me on the phone, emails me, or messages me on social media.

Recently somebody came to me and asked if the local "SEO" service they were paying $100 a month for was any good. I tossed their website into ahrefs and guess how many new links the "SEO" service built them... Zero.

I felt bad for the guy so I gave him a followed link on an old site that's about a low PR2. He's rank 1 now.

Yeah "SEO" is dead.

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DABK

8 years ago

Yes, I can.

Half of the people on earth are below average intelligence... That's over 3.5 billion.

Half of those are below average intelligence for stupid people. That's 1.75 billion.

That's a lot of people in that camp.

And, stupid or not, people like to feel important. People feel important when they make statements.

If 1.75 billion people make a statement each every few minutes, you have a lot of stupid statements.

Some of them are about SEO.

Since there are so many stupid-made statements, even a small fraction is a whole big pile.

And now you know.

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Can anyone explain why a large amount of people keep claiming SEO is dead? Is there any Truth or Merritt to this statement? Are search engines trying to destroy SEO in order for PPC to be dominant?

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irawr Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

If 1.75 billion people make a statement each every few minutes, you have a lot of stupid statements.

I just tried to visualize the earth, with a heat-map of stupid.

I can't even describe how much stupid there is.

It's not a tidal wave, there's more of it then that. It's not a volcano, it's much bigger. There's earth has entire continents of stupid.

You just blew my mind.
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nettiapina 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

And, stupid or not, people like to feel important. People feel important when they make statements.

And then there's the vultures who like to scare people for fun and profit. Every other SEO related article on Forbes is pretty much this.
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- arindamroy 8 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nettiapina
  
  And then there's the vultures who like to scare people for fun and profit. Every other SEO related article on Forbes is pretty much this.
  
  I very much agree with you these kind of statements are meant to create sensation in the webmaster world and collect those hypes from all around. SEO is absolutely not dead its just taking steps further.
  
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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Just agree with them & you don't have to explain common sense 87 times.

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Lol, I just noticed OP is banned.

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jsmith007

8 years ago

SEO Still live . But users switch to other medias like ppc, paid networks.
Who's want long term ranking, they are still using Orgenic seo techniques.

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Ehsan jahandarpour

8 years ago

My 2 cents:

As far as Google is alive, SEO is alive too. We can not ignore the issue that many so called Seo experts do not cope with the changes and use the old ways seo techniques and expect a different result.

What's dead is in fact the old school of SEO is dead. the one that people post a few posts and pray for it to be on the first page.

It's evolving.

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by jsmith007

SEO Still live . But users switch to other medias like ppc, paid networks.
Who's want long term ranking, they are still using Orgenic seo techniques.

Originally Posted by Simenjoshi

According to me, SEO is not dead and never will be as long as there are search engines. What has changed is the approach of optimizing for search engines. Google continuously updating its algorithms in order to deliver useful results to the users and remove spamming as much as possible.

Originally Posted by abhishek786

Well SEO in not dead.
Actually the methods people use earlier to build links and getting in top results have been changed totally.
Now SEO has been transformed more into Content Marketing and engagements. Google is ranking pages with relevant and diversified content pages.
SEO is not dead but the methods has been taken a new way of implementations.

Originally Posted by Ehsan jahandarpour

My 2 cents:

As far as Google is alive, SEO is alive too. We can not ignore the issue that many so called Seo experts do not cope with the changes and use the old ways seo techniques and expect a different result.

What's dead is in fact the old school of SEO is dead. the one that people post a few posts and pray for it to be on the first page.

It's evolving.

SEO is dead, John Mueller said it in a video.

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Simenjoshi

8 years ago

According to me, SEO is not dead and never will be as long as there are search engines. What has changed is the approach of optimizing for search engines. Google continuously updating its algorithms in order to deliver useful results to the users and remove spamming as much as possible.

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abhishek786

8 years ago

Well SEO in not dead.
Actually the methods people use earlier to build links and getting in top results have been changed totally.
Now SEO has been transformed more into Content Marketing and engagements. Google is ranking pages with relevant and diversified content pages.
SEO is not dead but the methods has been taken a new way of implementations.

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yetitrailadventure

8 years ago

SEO Never dead.

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DABK 8 years ago

Careful! They said that about disco too!

Originally Posted by yetitrailadventure

SEO Never dead.
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amutechnologies

8 years ago

If you are thinking SEO is dead, then I would like clear here SEO is not dead but the new rules changed. If you have a website and offering services, then you need to know about the power of search engine optimization, because SEO depends totally on your work and marketing strategy.

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armyof1

8 years ago

NO SEO ISN'T DEAD
The old way of doing SEO is dead white text, keyword stuffing and joining link farms. The new and improve SEO is now called Content Marketing.

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by seangomez01

SEO is not dead. It is just evolving. So, many marketers think that SEO is dead when big changes occur.

Originally Posted by arindamroy

I very much agree with you these kind of statements are meant to create sensation in the webmaster world and collect those hypes from all around. SEO is absolutely not dead its just taking steps further.

Originally Posted by yetitrailadventure

SEO Never dead.

Originally Posted by amutechnologies

If you are thinking SEO is dead, then I would like clear here SEO is not dead but the new rules changed. If you have a website and offering services, then you need to know about the power of search engine optimization, because SEO depends totally on your work and marketing strategy.

Originally Posted by armyof1

NO SEO ISN'T DEAD
The old way of doing SEO is dead white text, keyword stuffing and joining link farms. The new and improve SEO is now called Content Marketing.

SEO is dead.

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Jeff Schuman

8 years ago

SEO is not dead if you do it right. Someone a lot smarter than me on SEO is Brian Dean. You can learn everything you need to know on his blog... SEO Training and Link Building Strategies ? Backlinko

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman

SEO is not dead if you do it right. Someone a lot smarter than me on SEO is Brian Dean. You can learn everything you need to know on his blog... SEO Training and Link Building Strategies ? Backlinko

/facepalm.

His website is about content marketing, not SEO.

His course on "SEO" over at quicksprout.com received so many complaints that Neil Patel made it free.

I'm not saying backlinko is bad information but, please explain to me how the skyscraper technique (or any of his other techniques) will help rank my site about products? Ok so I take all of the products and make a giant skyscraper, turn the skyscraper into a giant infographic, then share it on social media, and then do inbound marketing. This helps me how? Wait so adobe photoshop is an SEO tool now? No. It's not. Content marketing rarely works when your site isn't entertainment or gives away information. I don't normally do any of his tactics and I rank sites just fine, with actual SEO, I build followed links.

SEO: you get links from data or acquisition
Content Marketing: you potentially get links from content that you marketed

Edit: Note, if Brian Dean didn't cloud the issue, nobody would go to his site about content marketing. Remember, he's a marketer and he wants money. There's tons of content marketing sites that don't really do all that well traffic-wise. His clever re-branding of content marketing as SEO obviously works for him, but when I do a guest post or email an authority site and say "hey I have a 1200 word high quality article that I will give you as long as you keep the link intact" I don't kid myself for a single second, I marketed a piece of content. The primary goal here is to build awareness about my site and potentially build traffic. Will it have an impact on my rankings if I do it right? Of course. So will getting links from niche directories and asking site owners to include my link in an article they wrote.

I personally hate content marketing but I do it because it works. But there have been times where I sit there thinking "wow it took me 30 hours of time to get a pr3 link, man that was a big waste of time."

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Jeff Schuman

8 years ago

You bring up good points. I have been on Brian's list for a couple of years now and always learn something from him. My problem is similar to yours in that I do not always want to do all of the work to get the backlinks in ways he teaches, and writing content can get tiresome.

Originally Posted by irawr

/facepalm.

His website is about content marketing, not SEO.

His course on "SEO" over at quicksprout.com received so many complaints that Neil Patel made it free.

I'm not saying backlinko is bad information but, please explain to me how the skyscraper technique (or any of his other techniques) will help rank my site about products? Ok so I take all of the products and make a giant skyscraper, turn the skyscraper into a giant infographic, then share it on social media, and then do inbound marketing. This helps me how? Wait so adobe photoshop is an SEO tool now? No. It's not. Content marketing rarely works when your site isn't entertainment or gives away information. I don't do any of his tactics and I rank sites just fine, with actual SEO, I build followed links.

SEO: you get links from data or acquisition
Content Marketing: you potentially get links from content that you marketed

Edit: Note, if Brian Dean didn't cloud the issue, nobody would go to his site about content marketing. Remember, he's a marketer and he wants money. There's tons of content marketing sites that don't really do all that well traffic-wise. His clever re-branding of content marketing as SEO obviously works for him, but when I do a guest post or email an authority site and say "hey I have a 1200 word high quality article that I will give you as long as you keep the link intact" I don't kid myself for a single second, I marketed a piece of content. The primary goal here is to build awareness about my site and potentially build traffic. Will it have an impact on my rankings if I do it right? Of course. So will getting links from niche directories and asking site owners to include my link in an article they wrote.

I personally hate content marketing but I do it because it works. But there have been times where I sit there thinking "wow it took me 30 hours of time to get a pr3 link, man that was a big waste of time."

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman

You bring up good points. I have been on Brian's list for a couple of years now and always learn something from him. My problem is similar to yours in that I do not always want to do all of the work to get the backlinks in ways he teaches, and writing content can get tiresome.

My main 100% white SEO strategy: I ahrefs my competition or sites that are in the same general niche. Drop the sheet of followed links into excel, start looking for targets to get backlinks. If I find a good target that I can use on multiple sites I save it in a file. Usually good links require opening a communication channel and not filling out a form.

Some site's have a treasure trove of white hat links, I have a few of those sites saved in a folder on my desktop.

I do guest posting and article marketing as well. The kind of article marketing where I build a list of targets, (his strategy on the SEO campaign page is pretty similar) I sort it by whatever BS metric of the month seems popular, lately it's MozRank, then I contact them 1 at a time starting with the highest metric, a few a day until somebody says they will post the article on their site.

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Jeff Schuman

8 years ago

You obviously know what you are doing and it sounds like it is working for you. Good Job! We all need to hear success stories in this forum. Thanks.

Originally Posted by irawr

My main 100% white SEO strategy: I ahrefs my competition or sites that are in the same general niche. Drop the sheet of followed links into excel, start looking for targets to get backlinks. If I find a good target that I can use on multiple sites I save it in a file. Usually good links require opening a communication channel and not filling out a form.

Some site's have a treasure trove of white hat links, I have a few of those sites saved in a folder on my desktop.

I do guest posting and article marketing as well. The kind of article marketing where I build a list of targets, (his strategy on the SEO campaign page is pretty similar) I sort it by whatever BS metric of the month seems popular, lately it's MozRank, then I contact them 1 at a time starting with the highest metric, a few a day until somebody says they will post the article on their site.

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman

SEO is not dead if you do it right. Someone a lot smarter than me on SEO is Brian Dean. You can learn everything you need to know on his blog... SEO Training and Link Building Strategies ? Backlinko

Proof SEO is dead (200 list fail).

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irawr Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Proof SEO is dead (200 list fail).

Like this BS:

SEO Campaign Case Study: 15.1% More Organic Traffic (In 2 Weeks)

Wow he got 12 links and that campaign probably took 100 hours. Man those social shares did go nuts though.

I can ahrefs my competitors and find enough targets to get 12 links in a few hours.
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jasonjoel

8 years ago

I disagree with "SEO is dead". Just because it is not simple as PPC doesn't mean it is overthrown. You don't have to go too far for a proof. Just go to home page of this forum and see for yourself which subforum has the most posts and which forum has the most visitors.

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonjoel

I disagree with "SEO is dead". Just because it is not simple as PPC doesn't mean it is overthrown. You don't have to go too far for a proof. Just go to home page of this forum and see for yourself which subforum has the most posts and which forum has the most visitors.

I don't agree that PPC is simple. There might be less parts, but they're all moving parts. If I spend 1k+time to build a site and a year later it didn't work out, I can sell the site on flippa and get my 1k back. Doesn't work like that for PPC.

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silicongcc

8 years ago

Google hunt is one of the greatest stages offering PPC. SEO is only a parasitic marvel around this prevalent administration.

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DABK 8 years ago

You said a mouthful.

So?

Football is the great thing... All other activities around it that make a lot of people a lot of money are parasitic too... So, are many other activities.

Marketing is parasitic that way, too.

So, what?

Originally Posted by silicongcc

Google hunt is one of the greatest stages offering PPC. SEO is only a parasitic marvel around this prevalent administration.
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