Can a website rank on google first page without seo?

by madlee
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Hello Guys,

I have develop an entertainment website. I do not want to hire any SEO. I own has good SMO profiles, Google + and Facebook pages with more than 20000 followers. I want to know can I rank on Google first page without any SEO or SEO is compulsory for ranking???
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  • Profile picture of the author pardu
    Key factor to consider is the content.Google always look for fresh content which is written by you mean not copy and paste stuff,it must be related to your website niche further more you should write your content at regular intervals
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    This is just impossible to answer. What are you trying to rank for? Is there competition in your niche, and for the keywords you'd like to rank for? You need to provide more information.

    As an analogy... Would you be able to answer a question like this? "I want to be the best in some stuff. I don't want to spend much time or energy on it." What's the answer to this question? You could be already really good at this vague something you're talking about, but how would I know that? I can only offer an opinion that usually it would take time and effort to succeed.

    The same goes for ranking in Google.

    Social media doesn't really help directly, but maybe your followers could occasionally give you a backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author adenclark
    If the keywords you want to rank for on the first page of Google, have any level of competition (which is almost always the case), then you will need links of some kind, otherwise your search listing will be lost in sea of websites that do have links.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by madlee View Post

    Hello Guys,

    I have develop an entertainment website. I do not want to hire any SEO. I own has good SMO profiles, Google + and Facebook pages with more than 20000 followers. I want to know can I rank on Google first page without any SEO or SEO is compulsory for ranking???
    No, you won't rank for anything competitive, unless you consider keywords like waffle unicorn jackwagon battery pill a good keyword. Keep doing nothing If it's working for you.

    BTW, I can get 120,000 followers on fiverr for $5.



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  • Profile picture of the author harveysilverfox
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by harveysilverfox View Post

      [If you feel you can’t afford to hire a SEO pro find a program called “Market Samuria” and go through their training.
      Are you talking about Market Samurai? The software is an unreliable piece of crap, and some of their claims are just ludicrous. I'm not sure if they've got some good training available nowadays, but I'd take it with a grain of salt.

      Originally Posted by harveysilverfox View Post

      • Domain Age of the other domains
      • Page Rank of the other domains
      • Citation Flow
      • Trust Flow
      • Index Count
      • Government BackLinks
      • DMOZ Directory
      • Keyword In Description
      • Keyword In Header Tag
      Here's a big pile of stuff, and most of it is nonsense. This would be the reason why SEO is pretty hard. You end up doing stuff that's not useful for increasing your rankings.
      • Domain age is not a ranking factor.
      • CF and TF are Majestic's metrics. Not ranking factors, but somewhat useful for determining the strength of linking domains.
      • The number of articles for a keyword doesn't mean anything.
      • .gov links are just like any other link. They're good if they're good.
      • DMOZ is really hard to get into. They seem to have no active maintainers for many of the categories.
      • Keywords in meta description don't rank pages. The big search engines don't use meta keywords.

      Originally Posted by harveysilverfox View Post

      Not easy is it? Can you see why the SEO Pros charge what they charge?
      That's a fair point. This person listed a bunch of stuff, and only about 40% touched SEO. If you really do SEO you need to know what works.
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      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

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  • Profile picture of the author raxix
    May or may not be!!

    You say you have good SMO skill. Learn a bit about ON page SEO - It is a one time task and will give benefit to your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author HCFGrizzly
    Originally Posted by madlee View Post

    Hello Guys,

    I have develop an entertainment website. I do not want to hire any SEO. I own has good SMO profiles, Google + and Facebook pages with more than 20000 followers. I want to know can I rank on Google first page without any SEO or SEO is compulsory for ranking???
    Well, like someone above me said, we can buy 50.000k followers for $5 and I honestly don`t think that someone asking this question has 20.000 real followers (but I might be wrong).

    So, you want to OPTIMIZE your website so that it will rank on the first page of the SEARCH ENGINE result pages?
    Do you know what SEO means? It means SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION.
    So my question is: How can your optimize your website for a search engine, without search engine optimization?
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  • Profile picture of the author WoW06
    I think most of niche need SEO work, and SEO can be on page and off page. And most of good niches are competitive one.
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  • Profile picture of the author ignaciosports
    Proper optimization of your website is necessary.If you are using social media then made good followers because they will provide you quality backlinks.Check your competion on search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author melons
    This really depends on so many factors. If you are targeting low-traffic keywords, you have much more of a chance of ranking than something with more traffic, but this is hard to distinguish without more info.

    I would genuinely recommend that you take some time to learn basic optimisation at the very least. It's a bit of a brainache to begin with but you should be able to get there.
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    • Profile picture of the author forexauditor
      Social media links may help you to reach on higher pages but not on page 1. Without SEO (good practice) it is not possible. Also it may take from few weeks to few moths to be on page one as per your SEO performance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ahmed Umair
    Yes.. You can see your Website on Google First Page in no time.. with Google PPC Campaign..

    Originally Posted by madlee View Post

    Hello Guys,

    I have develop an entertainment website. I do not want to hire any SEO. I own has good SMO profiles, Google + and Facebook pages with more than 20000 followers. I want to know can I rank on Google first page without any SEO or SEO is compulsory for ranking???
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  • Profile picture of the author kenflay
    What I can tell you is: If you don't know anything about SEO, you should hire someone, because all what you're talking about is secondary in term of SEO. After the penguin update introduced by Google, you can't rank accidentally and social media marketing can be implemented if all other primarily factors are well done ; what's obvious in today's SEO ; so an SEO specialist is a must in your case to develop your online business.

    Just my two cents, cheers everybody
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by kenflay View Post

      After the penguin update introduced by Google, you can't rank accidentally
      When could you ever rank by accident?

      That's kind of sounds like accidentally getting an STD.

      It may not have been your intention but it happened.

      I did SEO back when excite was the top engine, cause was still required for effect even back then.

      I agree with your post, the wording just struck me as funny. Unintentional vs Accidental

      Accidentally ranking would be something like : You were playing with your G.I. Joes and you somehow ranked 1 on "lose weight fast."
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by cqureshi View Post

        Hiring an SEO company doesn't really help. Factors like age of website, consistency and content relevance are important.
        I know you're a forum spammer, but I'll bite anyway. Why on earth do you say that SEO companies can't help, and then list some stuff that they're good at?

        Age is not a ranking factor. However, being around for a long time usually gets you some backlinks.
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        Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author FemaleAddadotcom
    i can understand that you dont want to hire an seo, but you have to know that your website placed on google first page has a lot to do with your keywords

    if you can figure those out by yourselves.. then it may work otherwise.. on page seo is pretty exhausting work
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