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Competition of these two keywords.

by anfeng
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Hi Gurus,


Two keywords: A, B, find the natural searches in Google:

A: most searches are: Inner pages of online shops sites(such as Amazon, Ebay, Walmart,etc.), and a few of inner pages of Youtube.

B: most searches are: Home pages and inner pages of company sites(quite a few are our competitors).

Question is: Which one is more higher competition, A or B?
#competition #keywords
  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    No way to tell off of that information. If you want, you can PM me the 2 keywords and i'll send you over a quick difficulty report for both.
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  • Profile picture of the author tekruiter
    In this way it is really difficult to tell you exactly about it. kindly mention the keywords please.
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  • Profile picture of the author arpitamishra
    Can you reveal the keywords? I would do a quick search and let you know!
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  • Profile picture of the author anfeng
    Thanks for all of your comments, these two keywords:


    weed control fabric:
    most searches are: Inner pages of online shops sites(such as Amazon, Ebay, Walmart,etc.), and a few of inner pages of Youtube.

    bulk bags:
    most searches are: Home pages and inner pages of company sites(quite a few are our competitors).

    Which one is more higher competition?
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by anfeng View Post

      Thanks for all of your comments, these two keywords:


      weed control fabric:
      most searches are: Inner pages of online shops sites(such as Amazon, Ebay, Walmart,etc.), and a few of inner pages of Youtube.

      bulk bags:
      most searches are: Home pages and inner pages of company sites(quite a few are our competitors).

      Which one is more higher competition?
      bulk bags is significantly less competitive.
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      • Profile picture of the author anfeng
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        bulk bags is significantly less competitive.

        Really? But I've hired a keyword analysis service here before, they told me the competiton of bulk bags is of more higher competition. Were they wrong?
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by anfeng View Post

          Really? But I've hired a keyword analysis service here before, they told me the competiton of bulk bags is of more higher competition. Were they wrong?
          Well they're complete idiots.

          The SERP for bulk bags is a bunch of DA 20 sites with ULINE mixed in there, they're all directly targeting the term.

          The SERP for weed control fabric is a bunch of massive eCommerce sites that are also directly targeting the term.

          Which do you think will be harder to beat? global-pak.com or HomeDepot.com
          Originally Posted by st0nec0ld View Post

          Both are high competition, but bulk bags is much higher because it is a broad term.
          However, for the avg. monthly searches weed control fabric is 2x higher than bulk bags.
          They're both broad what are you talking about? Neither one is very difficult. If you think that's "High Competition" then please describe "Car Insurance Quote" so that's what, Megatron Competition? Death Star Competition? SEO Suicide? Obviously companies are ranked on it so... The keywords the OP mentioned are low competition keywords, it's just not extremely low to the point where you could just make a site and rank on it with little SEO. If you can rank on it with zero SEO then it's a noncompetitive keyword.
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          • Profile picture of the author anfeng
            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

            Well they're complete idiots.

            The SERP for bulk bags is a bunch of DA 20 sites with ULINE mixed in there, they're all directly targeting the term.

            The SERP for weed control fabric is a bunch of massive eCommerce sites that are also directly targeting the term.

            Which do you think will be harder to beat? global-pak.com or HomeDepot.com
            Sorry but couldn't know this very well, did you mean the competition of massive eCommerce site such as Homedepot.com is more higher than DA site?


            Secondly,you said a bunch of DA 20 sites, where did you find 20 sites? I just found 7 Ad sites on top and bottom of the fist page of Google.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by anfeng View Post

          Really? But I've hired a keyword analysis service here before, they told me the competiton of bulk bags is of more higher competition. Were they wrong?
          They might not have been but i am finding keyword research people and SEOs are not taking into account the new realities of adwords and the new google layout.

          We've now added screenshots to our process to determine the serps to avoid four our customers

          weed control fabric from my search has four ads pushing the organic results below the fold (and with a products supply to the right)

          then it has some heavy hitters that probably benefit from internal links (which many backlink checkers don't take into account.)

          I don't know if its competitive but I do know you have to take into consideration Google now going to four ads at the top. There are now serps out there where you can't rank more than real position 6,7,8 because Google pushes the real results down with ads, images maps etc.

          Sorry to say and this is coming from a SEO guy but some terms are no longer any good for SEO. If the first organic link is way down the page which all research indicates gets tiny percentage of clickthroughs its not worth it.

          I mean if you rank through organic natural links without a campaign for that keyword then thats good and gravy but to actually target for SEO work? i don't think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Both are high competition, but bulk bags is much higher because it is a broad term.
    However, for the avg. monthly searches weed control fabric is 2x higher than bulk bags.
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  • Profile picture of the author anfeng
    Thanks but still can not understand very well, who can help to explain again?
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by anfeng View Post

      Thanks but still can not understand very well, who can help to explain again?
      Mike Anthony basically said, there's more ads on "weed control fabric" which the way the Google displayed the search results before did not matter as much as it does now. Mike actually kind of blew my mind because I really never thought about what he said before because the SERP recently changed. I didn't really think it mattered because the roll out was still ongoing, but it definitely does matter.

      Thanks Mike. I doubt the OP will understand, but that's actually a pretty serious change. I won't say too much because that specific result does indeed reveal why that topic is complex where I thought it was more surface level.

      That really wasn't what I was talking about before, but it does definitely add to it.
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