Is Google Going to Update PR or PR is Dead??

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Hello Forum Members,

I did not get any PR update from Google for the last 12 months. Is Google going to update PR or is it already stopped by Google? Searched internet. Different source is giving different information. Any idea?

Cheers!!
#search engine optimization #dead #google #update
  • That's probably because Google no longer publicly updates PR. What planet have you been living on?
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    • Hi Mate, My site is showing PR4 for the last 12 months. Is this going to change or Google just changes the internal algorithm?

      Thanks!
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  • Google just updates its own data which is not available to the public
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    • many people say no assessment pr google anymore but I still think that google pr mentioned in the guide webmasters. Pr proved not dead. And what you say is very likely
  • I guess you missed this:
    Google has confirmed it is removing Toolbar PageRank
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      Sure & the source is the authors own domain.
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  • PR is dead. Google has always had its own internal PageRank analysis, but the public PR number of 0-10 is officially dead.

    If you see anyone talking about the PR for their site, especially someone claiming SEO expertise, that is a red flag they do not know what they are talking about. Do not buy any website because someone says the site has a PR of whatever.

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    • Don't tell them that.
      If some dickheads chose to buy PR site without checking latest news, let them have it.



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  • Yep. However, other sources reported this piece, and they had some comments from Google too.
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      There's no Google quote, that's my point.

      Show me a single legit webpage that doesn't use searchengineland as the source (seriously, try a Google search). All roads lead to searchengineland, not any real source (Google).

      Keep in mind the source for searchengineland.com is searchengineland.com. Read a few of Barry's blog post, most of what he post quotes his own domain internal links as a source for news. All he's trying to do is link bait with drama & that John Mueller fetish is just weird.
      • site:searchengineland.com "mueller"
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  • If it were the last 12 months, maybe it would still be ok for people to talk about Page Rank.
    The thing is that Google stopped publicly updating it since late 2013.
    PR is still used by Google, but we won`t know any value from them.
    And the different information on the internet comes from people who don`t have any idea what they are talking about.
    If you want to make an experiment: Ask two people with over 1000 post count to post that "PR is still very useful" and you will see at least 3 'gurus' posting after them and saying that PR is the most useful metric you could use in 2016
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    • Ha ha ha... I agree with you. Thanks ...
  • PR by google is officially dead. It is an old news now....
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    And we don't know what Google will do in future! It may be that Google doesn't update the PR at all, or it may decide to update publicly!

    Google is not God........ even God sometimes takes his word back!

    We have one instance of indexing duplicate content, at one time, Google was too strict to duplicate content but later it has to change the rule thinking that of news websites.....

    Also with EMD, later Google knew that there are many brands that use the name in domain.....

    I hope you understand me a little, I'm not much experienced but whatever I'm telling by reading from here and there over the few years.
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    • Would you please give us a couple of examples?
      If 'He' have promised you 12 inches tool but then went
      back on his word and give you only 3, won't count.



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  • I think PR is pretty much dead in the water. I think a better metric to follow is your MOZ domain authority and page authority, if you want something concrete. https://moz.com/learn/seo/domain-authority
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    • Of course, my good sir.
      Keep up the good work and one day you will be a full level 85 fire breathing SEO master.
  • I wont say PR is dead. Infact Google might still be using it as a ranking criteria internally. Personally, I would care less about PR. Why think about something on which I dont have any control?
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  • PR is still alive just not for the public. It will never updates for you anymore but Google is updating it for itself. It has been like this for a few years now.
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    • You do know that PR based solely on backlinks?

      So, what you're saying that Google conscientiously using backlinks which
      it knows in most cases bought and sold by thousands to calculate ranking?

      My question is: why to kill PR in a first place and not let it be as it was before?



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    Really Google isn't doing anything as far as people buying or selling links, example, look at all the DA, PA, TF, etc... questions/comments.

    If you can't have the real thing (ex: PR) just make up some diy metric & people will buy it.
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      I always just ahrefs the seller. /shrug

      I realize people without experience have no idea what they're looking at.
  • Most of the people overlooked on the "Google's killed PR" issue its only hiding it to gain more money from the marketers. Google is wiser that they think.
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      Like I already said, it doesn't matter If public PR exist because buyers still exist & fallback on diy metrics (DA, PA, TF, etc... ) as If it's PR.

      If Google was wiser than we think, public PR would have never existed. They shot their own foot years ago releasing that data to the public.
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  • In my opinion google is not going to update! PR is dead now
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      Are you sure? It's only been 3 years.
  • The smart money has moved to Alexa.
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    Lol, this thread is starting to remind me of the flame wars from 2 or 3 years ago.

    Good times.
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      Know any Golf writers? I picked up a golf domain and I don't know anything about golf.
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    For those that need proof, Pagerank is still alive & kicking.

    Paul Haahr (Google) 9:22 in the video below mentions Pagerank, dated March 2016.

    In other words, as usual nothing has changed, pages rank the same way they did 10 years ago. It doesn't matter If you can see the public PR numbers, follow the followed link profiles...

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    SMX West 2016 - How Google Works: A Google Ranking Engineer's Story - YouTube
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    • Thats No proof whatsoever

      Thats a video of a GOOGLE ENGINEER. As an employee in that department AT GOOGLE. HE CAN STILL SEE AND USE PAGERANK.

      The public cannot

      which is why to the public (everyone not at google in the search engine division)

      PAGERANK IS AS DEAD AS YOUR WOOD FLOORS.


      Of course it matters and thats what has changed BIG TIME. constantly denying that makes no sense whatsoever

      You can't see the PR of the link profiles either. So basically you are just guessing. just like Majestic or Moz (admittedly Majestic is better) only they do it with a ton load more scientific factors (but yes still trying to guess but with ton load more data than anyone here has) .
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  • That's not what he said. Not even nearly so.

    Google is selling ads to their results pages witch of course will change the dynamics and link placements of the actual search results, but that's not the same as Adwords actually affecting SERPs.

    I, for one, don't. SEO is a parasitic industry that operates around a web behemoth that doesn't really give a toss. This would be totally irrelevant to them if there wasn't the problem of spam and gaming the system.

    But that's how life works. You've been around, and eventually seen the beast behind the facade of "Don't be evil". You don't like what you saw, but it's still the best game in town. Not only that, but their most successful competitor is a repeatedly convicted patent troll of a corporation, and rather incompetent in this space.
  • RIP Google PR One should focus on PA and DA now. I see, there are many websites still selling backlinks based on PR. Well, who can trust them now
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  • PR is internally updated, but not published for webmasters due to misuse.
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