Does a wikipedia page works same than a Facebook page in term of juice

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Just wondering if a wikipedia page with a PA=1 can provide the same juice than a Facebook page.

Also, how can we increase the PA of a wikipedia page ? Like linking other wikipedia articles to a specific pages can help for example?

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Does a wikipedia page works same than a Facebook page in term of juice
    Yes, they're both useless nofollow backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Yes, they're both useless nofollow backlinks.
      You shouldn't tell him that because now he will be asking:
      how can we to change Wikipedia page link to 'follow'?



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      • Profile picture of the author Linegend
        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        You shouldn't tell him that because now he will be asking:
        how can we to change Wikipedia page link to 'follow'?



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        lol you're so funny
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    • Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Yes, they're both useless nofollow backlinks.
      and you're crazy if you think a back link from Wikipedia is useless!
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      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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        Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

        and you're crazy if you think a back link from Wikipedia is useless!
        Please explain what value it provides.
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        • Originally Posted by irawr View Post

          Please explain what value it provides.
          Saying that a wikipedia link is useless is based on the assumption that a no-follow link is not worth anything. I don't agree with that personally.

          As SEO's, we know that a do-follow link will pass link juice through it, and will benefit us in that way, but just because no link-juice is being passed through a no-follow link, it doesn't mean that Google doesn't give them any weight in terms of passing authority. Wikipedia is one of the most popular websites on the internet, and I am pretty sure Google will see a link from such a site as valuable, regardless of whether it's do-follow or not.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

            Saying that a wikipedia link is useless is based on the assumption that a no-follow link is not worth anything. I don't agree with that personally.

            As SEO's, we know that a do-follow link will pass link juice through it, and will benefit us in that way, but just because no link-juice is being passed through a no-follow link, it doesn't mean that Google doesn't give them any weight in terms of passing authority. Wikipedia is one of the most popular websites on the internet, and I am pretty sure Google will see a link from such a site as valuable, regardless of whether it's do-follow or not.


            Nofollow links will not rank a page. Go prove it yourself, build thousands of nofollow links.

            Enjoy page #97 on Google SERPs for weak competition keywords.

            I bet you don't have a single Wikipedia link, just blowing hearsay smoke.
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            • Profile picture of the author irawr
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Enjoy page #97 on Google SERPs for weak competition keywords.
              Google usually stops around page 30-60

              No but really, this was covered in a thread I created awhile ago.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...e-ranking.html

              Bleh, back to working this piece of content, I hate it, I just want to delete it. I'm never going to rank it either. FML.

              Be careful if you have any tech niche sites, it might seem like a good idea to create content that explains say, how the tech actually works, you know, so the site provides valuable information, but yeah...... 1-10 is all > 50k BLs, I'm sure it's quality stuff too...
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            • Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Nofollow links will not rank a page. Go prove it yourself, build thousands of nofollow links.

              Enjoy page #97 on Google SERPs for weak competition keywords.

              I bet you don't have a single Wikipedia link, just blowing hearsay smoke.
              I'm not here to argue. I'm just giving my opinion.

              I have a page in a low - medium niche, with just 2 wikipedia links, and it's sitting nicely on the first page. The same page was sitting in no mans land for a couple of months prior, with no links built to it.

              I found the broken wikipedia links by accident while I was researching for articles, so I took the opportunity and added my site (the previously mentioned page) just for the sake of it. I was surprised to see some organic traffic to it in analystics, so I had a look at it was sitting in the middle of the first page from just the two links.

              Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it's true.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

                I'm not here to argue. I'm just giving my opinion.

                I have a page in a low - medium niche, with just 2 wikipedia links, and it's sitting nicely on the first page. The same page was sitting in no mans land for a couple of months prior, with no links built to it.

                I found the broken wikipedia links by accident while I was researching for articles, so I took the opportunity and added my site (the previously mentioned page) just for the sake of it. I was surprised to see some organic traffic to it in analystics, so I had a look at it was sitting in the middle of the first page from just the two links.

                Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it's true.


                Lol, you're full of it.

                YOU ARE NOT RANKING A PAGE BECAUSE OF WIKIPEDIA NOFOLLOW LINKS!
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              • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

                I'm not here to argue. I'm just giving my opinion.

                I have a page in a low - medium niche, with just 2 wikipedia links, and it's sitting nicely on the first page. The same page was sitting in no mans land for a couple of months prior, with no links built to it.

                I found the broken wikipedia links by accident while I was researching for articles, so I took the opportunity and added my site (the previously mentioned page) just for the sake of it. I was surprised to see some organic traffic to it in analystics, so I had a look at it was sitting in the middle of the first page from just the two links.

                Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it's true.
                OK. Since I've been jacking around with this piece of content all day and getting jack squat done I'll explain this to you. (Going to have to actually thank Brad Callen today, Iwriter has been producing some decent stuff today for me.)

                You're saying organic traffic.

                I'm saying referral traffic.

                Is utilizing nofollow links to generate referral traffic bad? No of course not, I do it all the time, especially on certain question and answer websites.

                Does this directly improve my rankings? No.

                Some people think of SEO is really complex, they think the traffic coming to their site improves their rank, which it doesn't. Does people coming to your site improve your brand exposure? Yes it does. Can that lead to things like, people searching for your brand or your site and then clicking the results in Google, which increases the CTR on your positions, in turn improve your rank? Yes in theory it can. Maybe these people will share your site and then somebody will see the link, go to your site and then blog about your site in their blog, yes sure, maybe once in awhile.

                But what is this called? Is this SEO? No, it's not. It's marketing.

                The vast majority of professionals would not consider it to be "SEO."

                Some people have ranked sites doing ZERO SEO... They didn't sit there and tweak their pages, or build links, they just marketed the site. People that operate sites found out about it one way or another and thought "Hey I should link to that!"

                I've said this before on these forums, I highly recommend Facebook marketing for new sites. I can make an account, join a group, drop my link, and get traffic to my site in 5 minutes. If you register a new domain and try to rely on Google traffic, you're going to go look at your webstats and want to rip your penis off. Especially for the first month.

                We are in the SEO section of the forum, you did not specify what kind of "value" you are talking about, so does a nofollow link provide value? As with everything else, it really depends on the link.

                If I'm answering questions about a product, that I think a person is interested in purchasing, and I have the ability to link to my site, where they can buy it, absolutely. It's tedious and the sites I do it on probably hate me, but it's basically free money once the site is setup.

                If you provide the URL you mentioned, I'm sure Ahrefs will report followed links to it, maybe you don't know about them, but that's probably the #1 reason you're ranking where you are, that and maybe the content is good.

                And I'll give you the report if you like.
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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

            As SEO's, we know that a do-follow link will pass link juice through it, and will benefit us in that way, but just because no link-juice is being passed through a no-follow link, it doesn't mean that Google doesn't give them any weight in terms of passing authority. Wikipedia is one of the most popular websites on the internet, and I am pretty sure Google will see a link from such a site as valuable, regardless of whether it's do-follow or not.
            Where do you think that this authority comes from? It seems to me that you're really close at actually coming to the right conclusion. It's not some kind of magic feel good stuff, but the actual followed backlinks.

            I see no reason that an average Wikipedia link would bring that much traffic. The articles explain the topic, and the links are just references to the source material.

            Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

            Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it's true.
            And that would be the problem. Sites usually have at least some backlinks even if you didn't build any. Your anecdote doesn't even explain what you're ranking for. I'd guess that it's something like your company name or Waffle Unicorn Jackwagon Battery Pill.
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            Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
            Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

            What's your excuse?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Hippy Millionaire View Post

        and you're crazy if you think a back link from Wikipedia is useless!

        Really?

        I have at least a dozen backlinks on high PR Wikipedia pages that are maybe 4 or 5 years old (still live links today). Those links don't rank shit.

        How's that for crazy.
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