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The best place to hide a dead body is, Page 2 of Google search results?

by james flynn
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It's a saying which has been flying around for quite a while. According to some stats the first page always receives 95% of the traffic leaving behind many notable sources to rot on the second page. But why such discrimination?

Personally, I think the major issue behind is not lack of SEO but in fact poor marketing. By marketing I mean not advertising your content effectively but in fact failing to deliver the utility to the audience. If your brand or blog talks about stuff which is resourceful and could help a common reader then there is a higher probability that your content could go viral. Years ago there was a back door through all this fuss and many marketers were able to crack Google's algorithm of search results preference. But apparently this back channel is dead because of updated algorithm. Therefore, right now in my opinion a brand portraying utility accompanied with effective marketing has the potential to pop up on the first page of Google's search result.

What you guys think? I would love to know your opinion on this. If you guys have a special marketing ingredient please share on this thread to help many craving web marketers out here.

Cheers - James
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Content is, indeed, super important. It's hard to get backlinks without it and the two combined are what drives search results up in the rankings, along with the number of times an organic search result is clicked.

    Social sharing and something "going viral" does nothing at all to help a page permanently rank well, unless the places that are sharing the content are linking to it from real, independent websites (i.e.not social networks).

    Marketing drives traffic. Well optimized pages that get quality, relevant backlinks drive rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author james flynn
      Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

      Content is, indeed, super important. It's hard to get backlinks without it and the two combined are what drives search results up in the rankings, along with the number of times an organic search result is clicked.

      Social sharing and something "going viral" does nothing at all to help a page permanently rank well, unless the places that are sharing the content are linking to it from real, independent websites (i.e.not social networks).

      Marketing drives traffic. Well optimized pages that get quality, relevant backlinks drive rankings.
      Absolutely. I think backlinks from authentic sources are one of the driving factors for your source to become popular and eventually pop up on the first page of Google search.But for a starter, developing an eye catcher content can be a big problem because of minimum reputation in the market. So usually they go for easy marketing avenues like social media sites. Anyways, a good point you made out here.

      Cheers-James
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  • Profile picture of the author XSV1
    I guess I'm one of the 5% that almost always goes several pages deep out of curiosity.
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    • Profile picture of the author james flynn
      Originally Posted by XSV1 View Post

      I guess I'm one of the 5% that almost always goes several pages deep out of curiosity.
      Well I only do it when I can't find a solution for my college calculus course. Sometimes you find pretty amazing stuff buried deep in those searches.

      Cheers-James
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  • Profile picture of the author solidwealthsystems
    True, I've had some posts that I couldn't get past the 2nd or 3rd page and they get almost no traffic at all. And yes, Google has become much more sophisticated since the days of spamming thousands of back links to rank your stuff. One thing I've noticed though that I haven't heard others talk about is getting your stuff out there first. There's been a couple of times where I got a post out there targeting something before there was any competition, and later I really didn't have to do anything at all to stay within the top 3 results.
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    • Profile picture of the author james flynn
      Originally Posted by solidwealthsystems View Post

      True, I've had some posts that I couldn't get past the 2nd or 3rd page and they get almost no traffic at all. And yes, Google has become much more sophisticated since the days of spamming thousands of back links to rank your stuff. One thing I've noticed though that I haven't heard others talk about is getting your stuff out there first. There's been a couple of times where I got a post out there targeting something before there was any competition, and later I really didn't have to do anything at all to stay within the top 3 results.
      I totally agree. Well I think its the same dilemma faced by every internet marketer. But is there any solid ingredient which we can use as a loophole to get on top instead of following the traditional ' credible' pathway? What suits you better? I would love to know your opinion on this.

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author socialbacklink
        Originally Posted by james flynn View Post

        I totally agree. Well I think its the same dilemma faced by every internet marketer. But is there any solid ingredient which we can use as a loophole to get on top instead of following the traditional ' credible' pathway? What suits you better? I would love to know your opinion on this.

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        There are no loopholes to get there. If there are they get patched quickly. SEO isn't hard though. Not if you do proper keyword research, structure the site correctly, use high quality content, and do good back linking.

        If you do those things you will have no problem getting rankings and keeping them. It doesn't matter what changes or updates Google makes doing the above 4 things makes you panda proof (or whatever new updates come along).

        And yes, that quote is very true. Page 2 is like the Mohave desert of search results. If you guys have questions about the methods above just ask.
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        • Profile picture of the author james flynn
          Originally Posted by socialbacklink View Post

          There are no loopholes to get there. If there are they get patched quickly. SEO isn't hard though. Not if you do proper keyword research, structure the site correctly, use high quality content, and do good back linking.

          If you do those things you will have no problem getting rankings and keeping them. It doesn't matter what changes or updates Google makes doing the above 4 things makes you panda proof (or whatever new updates come along).

          And yes, that quote is very true. Page 2 is like the Mohave desert of search results. If you guys have questions about the methods above just ask.
          Thanks for the advise Sir. Getting good backlinks has always been a bit of an issue for me and I would love to have a general overview regarding your personal approach on this issue.

          Cheers-James
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    Almost 0% buyers come from page 2 results.

    Now when you think about that for every keyword only 10 people actually make money....

    Isn't the "SEO promise" actually a half-truth? or is it only 1% true? Most websites will
    NEVER be in the top ten. But they spent millions on SEO guys that sell that promise.
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    • Profile picture of the author james flynn
      Originally Posted by George Schwab View Post

      Almost 0% buyers come from page 2 results.

      Now when you think about that for every keyword only 10 people actually make money....

      Isn't the "SEO promise" actually a half-truth? or is it only 1% true? Most websites will
      NEVER be in the top ten. But they spent millions on SEO guys that sell that promise.
      That's the same question that I ask myself and others every day. I think people only like stuff which has a lot of stardom involved. I have literally seen sites which use keywords to attract visitors. But when you open up the link you find a completely opposite story. I'm not against click baits but I expect a little bit of honesty with the advertisement which most of the time is always contrary to my expectation. In that case I assume '' SEO promise'' is a half truth because many individuals out there can use it to attract anyone leaving behind marketers who talk sense and our honest with their claims.

      Cheers-James
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