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Banned 15 years ago

Damn straight brother!

I just went round and round with a customer about this topic - he refuses to believe that his articles could be listed within 10 hours, rank on the first page or two for a few days and then fall back to page 72.

Listen up folks - getting listed in Google in a matter of minutes or hours is no big deal...but it doesn't matter. Every single page listed is going to bubble through Google's system until it finds it's "True" place in SERPS for that moment.

The thing to realize is that it's not permanent!

What it does is give you a measure of what else you need to be doing to pull it up to the first page - through both on and off page SEO.

There is no page in SERPS that is ever "Locked" into a particular position - a page that stays in the top spot stays there because of ongoing SEO...

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Jag82 15 years ago

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

There is no page in SERPS that is ever "Locked" into a particular position - a page that stays in the top spot stays there because of ongoing SEO...

How very true. The keywords here are - "Ongoing SEO".

Continual effort is definitely needed.
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- Intrepreneur 15 years ago
  
  It's a lot more complicated than that.
  
  BigMike has the opinion that it will go way back to page 72 again, my opinion is it's a lot more complicated than that.
  
  Sometimes I just find those golden keywords that are in the "a lot more complicated than that" idea of Google ranking and I can make my rankings stick for months and months until someone else comes and finds out about "the a lot more complicated than that" way of ranking and the exact keyword, and I mostly have to say goodbye to my site as they take advantage of "the a lot more complicated than that" way to rank :-(
  
  All in all it's a lot more complicated than what ANY product I have read or seen has said!
  
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twitterguru

15 years ago

Exactly Mike.

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

Damn straight brother!

I just went round and round with a customer about this topic - he refuses to believe that his articles could be listed within 10 hours, rank on the first page or two for a few days and then fall back to page 72.

Listen up folks - getting listed in Google in a matter of minutes or hours is no big deal...but it doesn't matter. Every single page listed is going to bubble through Google's system until it finds it's "True" place in SERPS for that moment.

The thing to realize is that it's not permanent!

What it does is give you a measure of what else you need to be doing to pull it up to the first page - through both on and off page SEO.

There is no page in SERPS that is ever "Locked" into a particular position - a page that stays in the top spot stays there because of ongoing SEO...

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zuluranger

15 years ago

You are right, Big Mike. twitterguru don't believe that kind of stuff which promises quick ranking in Google. One thing they can't promise you is long term ranking.

With Web 2.0 you can easily score quick ranking in Google within hours. But it fizzles after a few days.

What you need is a consistent link building campaign. One thing I learn from SEO is that you can't stop building links if you want to continue to make money from the target keywords.

Your competitors will someday catch up with your ranking the moment you stop building links to your money page.

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Rich Lowe

15 years ago

Sustainability is what it is all about.

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Steven Heron

15 years ago

What I also hate are "experts" advertising rankings under terms that receive no Google search volume data (aka, 0 searches a month).

"Learn How I Achieved First Place Ranking On Google Using My Secret Method" - then you look at the example and the term is something like "lemon juice cleanser". You could probably rank #5 under "forex" and it wouldn't be as good as the "#1 ranking that XYZ guru got" in the average consumers eyes.

No wonder there's so much charlatanism in this industry.

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dburk

15 years ago

Hi twitterguru,

You are describing the classic user/abuser personality.

Modus operandi: Find someone doing something well and position yourself to take full credit for their abilities.

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twitterguru

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi twitterguru,

You are describing the classic user/abuser personality.

Modus operandi: Find someone doing something well and position yourself to take full credit for their abilities.

Sorry, I'm having a hard time following you here. Could you explain?

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dburk 15 years ago

Originally Posted by twitterguru

Sorry, I'm having a hard time following you here. Could you explain?

Sure, Google is responsible for developing the technology that finds, indexes and ranks fresh content high in the SERP (QDF - Query Deserves Freshness). The phony "guru" steps in and takes credit for Google's amazing technical prowess as if it was his own doing.
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Steven Carl Kelly

15 years ago

I teach my students and advise my clients that SEO is a process, not a project. You don't get a page ranked well and then quit, you have to continually nurture your pages in order to keep them ranked well.