No effect in serps after building quality backlinks

by Laurn
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Hello friends,

I've been building backlinks some good quality backlinks on expired 2.0 (PA 35+ with atleast 100 backlinks) since 3 weeks for my keyword, It did show some improvement though, from nowhere to page 19 but this effect happened maybe 2 weeks ago, since that time onwards , i've seen my page dancing across page 18 and 19 but isn't showing any imporvement. Any suggestions? I've also pinged all the backlinks and each of them was created from a different ip, and the content on web 2.0 was unique and well written
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    It helps to know the website and the targeted keyword phrase.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxjay
    You should investigate your backlinks and make sure they are not coming from an "bad neighborhood". Also, if it is an expired domain use a tool like SEMRUSH to make sure that it hasn't been damaged by porno or Viagra spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author gaurav2555
    Not sure whether expired web 2.0 back links help anymore. Also, are your back links indexed? Check the backlink metrics in majestic, SEMrush that would make the things clearer
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  • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
    How do you build these quality backlinks? Because Google's considerations on quality backlinks are not suspicious in which fluctuates in SERP with no improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

    Hello friends,

    I've been building backlinks some good quality backlinks on expired 2.0 (PA 35+ with atleast 100 backlinks)
    Of all the metrics out there PA means next to nothing. Google isn't stupid either. They are beginning to figure out how to dampen web 2.0s since marketers (who they consider link spammers) use them.
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    • Profile picture of the author sparrow
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Of all the metrics out there PA means next to nothing.
      I'll agree with that

      for some reason or another Page Authority has no influence/correlation at all in understanding what is happening on page one

      domain authority is better for helping you know who your competition is

      if your trying to rank for keywords that are dominated by high domain authority websites you are going to need many more links and better strategies

      keep in mind domain authority has nothing to do with Google's algo

      but it does help you know who your competition is for authority, considering Google has given brands preference to page one of search
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  • Profile picture of the author Laurn
    Hey, so let me try updating my question a bit , the blogs also have good trust flow rate and very low spam score, I am using unique content and adding around 5 articles on each blog so in short I am not doing anything spammy here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

      Hey, so let me try updating my question a bit , the blogs also have good trust flow rate and very low spam score, I am using unique content and adding around 5 articles on each blog so in short I am not doing anything spammy here.

      You are placing links on Web 2.0s back to your money site. If you don't understand that google considers that spammy then you need to do some reading.

      https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/66356?hl=en

      This includes any behavior that manipulates links to your site or outgoing links from your site.

      However we look at it - to google thats a link scheme. the fact that marketers are using a a specific set of sites that are web 2.0s does make it easier for google to identify.

      Anyway lets bottom line it - if you are seeing no bounce it doesn't matter what metrics you are seeing - Google doesn't agree. SO wait a sufficient amount of time and then if still no movement deal withe the reality those links are not good in your niche and go get other ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
    Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

    Hello friends,

    I've been building backlinks some good quality backlinks on expired 2.0 (PA 35+ with atleast 100 backlinks) since 3 weeks for my keyword, It did show some improvement though, from nowhere to page 19 but this effect happened maybe 2 weeks ago, since that time onwards , i've seen my page dancing across page 18 and 19 but isn't showing any imporvement. Any suggestions?


    yeah.....

    do it again with another link....

    and then again....

    until your at the top. You honestly can't figure this out at this point?

    Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

    It helps to know the website and the targeted keyword phrase.
    why?

    things like building backlinks and adding content will be the same regardless of difficulty. How much you have to do is the only difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoHoist
    Make sure you have all the links indexed before measuring effectiveness of these links.
    How many of those are indexed?
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  • Profile picture of the author Laurn
    okay so here's the good news my page moved to page 11 from page 19 the best i've ever seen in these 2 weeks was page 17 so i understood that it will take effect slowly but surely
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    Good going. Keep us updated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Laurn
      Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

      Good going. Keep us updated.
      sure I will
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    SEO is definitely a game of patience, like watching a pot of water waiting for it to boil you will go mad if you pay too much attention day to day. Just keep going and keep an eye
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
    Also make sure that your on page content is up to par! Too often I see sites that are trying to rank very thin pages to the top of the SERPs. It will be very difficult to do so.

    Ensure you are using the right tags, post length, and use bold, italic and lists.
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    • Profile picture of the author Laurn
      Originally Posted by Matthew North View Post

      Also make sure that your on page content is up to par! Too often I see sites that are trying to rank very thin pages to the top of the SERPs. It will be very difficult to do so.

      Ensure you are using the right tags, post length, and use bold, italic and lists.
      Yup my on page seo is good this has really motivated me now , few hours back my link was placed 2nd last on the 11th page and now after 5 hours, its second from the top on 11th page Tomorrow I will create 10 more backlinks to see whats happens
      I will keep you guys updated about my progress
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

    I've been building backlinks some good quality backlinks on expired 2.0 (PA 35+ with atleast 100 backlinks) since 3 weeks for my keyword
    Seriously? That is spamming and it does not work any more; NOTHING quality about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

    okay so here's the good news my page moved to page 11 from page 19 the best i've ever seen in these 2 weeks was page 17 so i understood that it will take effect slowly but surely
    Originally Posted by Laurn View Post

    Yup my on page seo is good this has really motivated me now , few hours back my link was placed 2nd last on the 11th page and now after 5 hours, its second from the top on 11th page Tomorrow I will create 10 more backlinks to see whats happens
    I will keep you guys updated about my progress
    I don't want to burst your bubble or sound like a dick, but those are pretty meaningless movements.

    Think of the SERP like a marathon race. In a marathon, there are tons of runners in the middle of the pack and towards the back, but very few running at the front. The difference between finishing 4567 and 3922 is really very small. Probably only a difference of a few minutes. The difference between finishing 4567 and even 150 is a few hours.

    In other words, you could fart and your webpage might pass other sites on page 19.
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  • Damn, at first I thought it was a position 18 or 19. But the OP meant the page 18, 19. This is the kind of ranking you get by simply posting content...
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Make sure you've tightened up your on-page SEO. Seems like you have. I have a site, no link building all on-page and moved up in rankings (2nd page).

    Add supporting articles with your site too. Build out that damn site.

    Also with backlinks, how are you choosing your anchor text as that plays a big role too.

    Are you mixing it up with naked url's, misc. anchor text (click here etc.), targeted keyword, LSI targeted keyword etc.?

    Slap your site on semrush and see if you're ranking for any additional keywords, and go update your title tags.

    Not sure how effective 2.0's are as well. Like I said, I've gone to page 2-3 without any links and it was all just time. And to page 2 to page 1 is to finish off with some high quality links / PBN's.
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  • Profile picture of the author prakashmalhotra
    Forget all about the links that has been built till now. Focus on quality sites which are containing high authority. If a website is having good popularity in the online market & having good customer base, then it can help you to get augmented rank in Google search engine easily & this will reflect in your SERPs result quickly. Try to be informative & engaging by writing quality content which must be unique.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    The links you are going after will have very little positive effect on your ranking. If you can place the link yourself, it IS NOT a high quality link, regardless of what some meaningless DA, Trust Flow or spam score by third party sites say.

    A real quality link is hard to get and is one placed by someone else. Build quality pages that others will want to link to because it is beneficial to THEIR site visitors. Guest post on high quality websites where they have to approve your post.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOMasterMind52
    When you are link building you must pay attention to the keywords you are targeting and incorporate them in the anchor text properly.

    Using short tail keywords or simply hitting the exact match keyword you wish to target with 100 back links will most likely make it very difficult to rank for the particular term and the algorithm could be taking notice.

    Using long-tail keywords 5 or more keywords (buyer and geographical) when link building provide better link juice for the targeted keyword and the added benefit of ranking for many long tail keywords that may or may not have traffic.

    Example: target keyword (Shoe laces)

    Long-tail keyword examples:

    Red Michael Jordan Shoe Laces
    Black Kobe Bryant Shoe Laces
    Extra large green shoe laces
    Buy long shoe laces for jordans

    Example: target keyword (NY Limo Service)

    Long-tail keyword examples:

    New York City Limo Service
    NYC Limousine Service
    Limo service in New York City
    Best limo service in New York City

    Utilizing buyer keywords such as, buy, find, locate, hire, best all help when figuring out what anchor text to use.

    Utilizing geographical (local) areas such as, New York City, NYC, New York, NY all help as well instead of only going for short tail keywords like limo service.

    In order to rank for shorter-tailed keywords you must use long-tail keywords when back linking and building pbn sites to link from. Try to come up with as many combinations as possible of words and hit different ones each time but remember to include the short tail keyword somewhere in the anchor text.

    The short tail keyword does not have to be back to back as long as the exact match word is in the anchor text you will receive link juice for that keyword.

    Lastly, if you are link building to a particular website (URL) but have not included long tail and short tail targeted keywords within your content (On-page optimization) then that also must be done in order to completely accomplish the SEO for your money site.
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    What I like to do when working on ranking a new site is to work on on page for the first the first week. Week two I build links. Week three I then go back to onpage work. There is always something more you can do to optimize your site. Then after that I link weekly.
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