Is it possible to rank spun content in 2017?

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I have some questions. I know automated spun contents are very bad, but I am curious.

My first question:
Let's say you made a clickbank products review website, and you have articles but they are all spun content that were created by spin tools. So articles are very low quality but it looks "unique" to google. Is it possible to rank those pages on google with backlinks?.

Second question:
Let's say you wrote real reviews and unique contents, and they are high quality, so you did white hat, but how can you rank them without creating backlinks yourself? I mean don't you have to do some black hat seo to this website since no one will give nature backlinks to this kind of affiliate products website?
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    1. Than can do if your competitors are doing the same like you, but hated by real users because of the weird words.

    2. Don't have to do black hat or your quality content will slapped by Google or any search engines. If doing black hat maybe your content get rank for awhile before deindex, you'll get thousand backlinks with bot traffic. How about the real buyers from other traffic sources? Most of the bloggers of course have many sources to distribute their content. There are video sharing sites, PDF sharing sites, Audio sharing sites, RSS feeder, Press Release, PAD, Android, Apple, Kindle etc. Just multiplied your content & submit to those popular sites. Now you'll get the quality traffic to buy your affiliate recommendation products.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    Maybe browse the forum once in a while...

    Can You "Spin" Content and STILL Outrank Originators in Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Takes more time to re-spin when you can just rewrite in your own words, imo

    Those Spin tools are such a waste of time and money


    - Robert Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author terryj
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      Takes more time to re-spin when you can just rewrite in your own words, imo

      Those Spin tools are such a waste of time and money


      - Robert Andrew
      Got to agree, back in the days when spinning still had a bit of weight, I hated the whole thing, took an age!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    I have some questions. I know automated spun contents are very bad, but I am curious.

    My first question:
    Let's say you made a clickbank products review website, and you have articles but they are all spun content that were created by spin tools. So articles are very low quality but it looks "unique" to google. Is it possible to rank those pages on google with backlinks?.

    Second question:
    Let's say you wrote real reviews and unique contents, and they are high quality, so you did white hat, but how can you rank them without creating backlinks yourself? I mean don't you have to do some black hat seo to this website since no one will give nature backlinks to this kind of affiliate products website?
    I wouldn't even bother. Spend the time into creating something of quality instead of just creating something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    I have some questions. I know automated spun contents are very bad, but I am curious.

    My first question:
    Let's say you made a clickbank products review website, and you have articles but they are all spun content that were created by spin tools. So articles are very low quality but it looks "unique" to google. Is it possible to rank those pages on google with backlinks?.

    Second question:
    Let's say you wrote real reviews and unique contents, and they are high quality, so you did white hat, but how can you rank them without creating backlinks yourself? I mean don't you have to do some black hat seo to this website since no one will give nature backlinks to this kind of affiliate products website?
    You might be able to rank it but the question you want to ask is how long will it stay ranked? Also, I think affiliate marketing is mostly for those who already have an audience to promote to. I think you could rank a product review site without blackhat but I feel so many are already trying to make product review sites. You have to make yours either more efficient or more fun than the others and you should do well. Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nemecky
    You can get unique and copyscape passed articles for super cheap through Fiverr or iWriter or even a VA, so probably better to go that route
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    automated spun contents
    Bad idea.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    articles are very low quality but it looks "unique" to google
    Bad idea.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    created by spin tools
    Bad idea.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    real reviews and unique contents, and they are high quality
    Good idea.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    black hat seo
    Bad idea.

    I would suggest you start over and build a real business. You have too many ideas that won't work.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    Text rewriters are a terrible thought, not on account of they make you look exceptionally amateurish - however the coherence is likewise quite recently horrifying. I mean take a gander at this privilege here, I'm utilizing a text rewriter at this moment, so you can see a case.

    Why do that to your site guests?

    Translation:

    Article spinners are a bad idea, not just because they make you look highly unprofessional - but the readability is also just appalling. I mean look at this right here, I'm using an article spinner right now, so you can see an example.

    Why do that to your website visitors?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Last time I checked, a search spider has never, ever bought anything.

    Until they start, you're stuck marketing to humans.

    So even if you could rank spun gibberish, you'd still have two huge obstacles to overcome.

    First, getting anyone to actually click through from your SERP listing. I know various surveys talk about the percentage of clicks each listing rank gets. But those are averaged over thousands, sometimes millions, of searches. How many people are going to click on a result consisting of gibberish just because it's the top organic listing (which, these days, is likely to be the third or fourth listing down)?

    Second, even if someone accidentally clicks on the SERP link, they're going to find a page full of gibberish spun content. Who in their right mind is going to look at that and say to themselves "the review is so terrible, the product must be exactly what I'm looking for"?

    Remember, your goal isn't tricking search engines into displaying a link. It's to get people to click on and read your review, and subsequently buy the product. Crappy reviews done with an article spinner won't do that. So why bother?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I have some questions. I know automated spun contents are very bad, but I am curious.
    You know it's bad, but you think maybe you can make it work...
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  • Profile picture of the author shmol
    Why worry about "spinning" articles,

    Just take the take the time to write real product reviews--buy the product and or products--check them out, and give a real honest review of them.

    Trust me, people will notice.

    Same with content, do some research and take the time to write good content about your niche.

    Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      "You can't send a duck to eagle school".
      - Mac Anderson, author; You Can't Send a Duck to Eagle School
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    • Profile picture of the author maryJacko
      Originally Posted by shmol View Post

      Why worry about "spinning" articles,

      Just take the take the time to write real product reviews--buy the product and or products--check them out, and give a real honest review of them.

      Trust me, people will notice.

      Same with content, do some research and take the time to write good content about your niche.

      Hope this helps
      Yeah but everyone gives answer to my first question with "write real content and review", yes this is what I really want to do too but no one really gives answer to my second question, no one tells about how to rank a real affiliate product review website without creating backlinks yourself?

      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      2. There are white hat methods to build backlinks and rank content.
      If you create backlinks yourself, it is automatically black hat, it means black hat, isn't it? Please tell me more.

      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      What's the goal with ranking spun content?

      Any human visiting it will bounce off.

      So unless you're hoping to generate links,why bother?
      7 years ago, I made a lot of sales with a spun website. People click links. But I don't know if it's still possible to rank these kind of websites because google is more powerful than ever, if it's not possible, I will not waste time. I will just choose the white hat way.

      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      Focus on quality. I took off all the rubbish article from my Panda/Penguin hit site in 2013 and added some unique, non-keyword targeted content. Now it has more traffic than ever.
      What do you mean by non-keyword targeted content exactly?
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    I have some questions. I know automated spun contents are very bad, but I am curious.

    My first question:
    Let's say you made a clickbank products review website, and you have articles but they are all spun content that were created by spin tools. So articles are very low quality but it looks "unique" to google. Is it possible to rank those pages on google with backlinks?.

    Second question:
    Let's say you wrote real reviews and unique contents, and they are high quality, so you did white hat, but how can you rank them without creating backlinks yourself? I mean don't you have to do some black hat seo to this website since no one will give nature backlinks to this kind of affiliate products website?
    1. Spun content isn't worth anything these days. Don't bother unless your business strategy is to churn out 95% bounce rate made-for-Adsense sites that rank and tank in a few months.

    2. There are white hat methods to build backlinks and rank content.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    What's the goal with ranking spun content?

    Any human visiting it will bounce off.

    So unless you're hoping to generate links,why bother?
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Focus on quality. I took off all the rubbish article from my Panda/Penguin hit site in 2013 and added some unique, non-keyword targeted content. Now it has more traffic than ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    Yeah but everyone gives answer to my first question with "write real content and review", yes this is what I really want to do too but no one really gives answer to my second question, no one tells about how to rank a real affiliate product review website without creating backlinks yourself?
    Backlinks are still a very important factor in ranking pages. It's possible to rank without them if you go way, way out on the long tail, but those rankings won't get you the eyeballs you need, either.

    The trick is to build backlinks ethically, by earning them. You'll learn a lot by perusing sites like Backlinko, Moz, SearchEngineLand and others who teach white hat SEO.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    If you create backlinks yourself, it is automatically black hat, it means black hat, isn't it? Please tell me more.
    If you mean things like building blog farms or buying links or other shady methods, yes, that's black hat. And the search engines are getting better and better at telling "real" links from "gaming the system" links.

    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    7 years ago, I made a lot of sales with a spun website. People click links. But I don't know if it's still possible to rank these kind of websites because google is more powerful than ever, if it's not possible, I will not waste time. I will just choose the white hat way.
    Just choose the white hat way.
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    • Profile picture of the author maryJacko
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      You'll learn a lot by perusing sites like Backlinko, Moz, SearchEngineLand and others who teach white hat SEO.
      Thanks for all your suggestions, I will read those SEO blogs carefully too, but can you give me example white hat backlinks which were created by yourself?

      Example:
      I made a free blog and wrote content for it, and added my money site link to it. - That sounds like black hat.

      I created a forum profile and added my money website link to it as a signature with my targeted keyword and anchor text - That sounds black hat too.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by maryJacko View Post

    Thanks for all your suggestions, I will read those SEO blogs carefully too, but can you give me example white hat backlinks which were created by yourself?

    Example:
    I made a free blog and wrote content for it, and added my money site link to it. - That sounds like black hat.

    I created a forum profile and added my money website link to it as a signature with my targeted keyword and anchor text - That sounds black hat too.
    Both of those examples are black hat. You are correct. If your sole intent is to boost your links without adding any value. Like filling that free blog with spun content and keyword links. Or creating the profile with no intent of participating in the forum. Tactics like that are what brought on the whole Google farmyard.

    Here are a couple of white hat examples...

    I found a popular blog in my niche and posted a comment on a post with good engagement. The blog allowed me to use my link as part of my ID. The comments turned into an actual conversation, much like a forum thread, so my participation got me several links.

    After participating in several comment threads like that, the blog owner accepted my offer of a guest post, with my link in the bio box. Another white hat backlink.

    You'll find a lot of noise about no-follow and do-follow links, but these days it doesn't mean nearly as much as it used to. Actually, there is no such thing as "do-follow"; it's a null term. There is only the absence of no-follow.

    I've found that trying to "build backlinks" doesn't work as well as placing links where my intended audience will see them, with the intent to add value to the user experience and tempt the user to continue that experience by following my link.

    I quit trying to force backlinks via keyword targeting years before the Google menagerie when I analyzed my own server logs and found that very little of my search traffic was coming from the keywords I targeted. Much of it was coming for search terms I wouldn't have thought of targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Uchiha Itachi
    Google currently has updated many of the algorithm detects the rotating content.
    You should only use the content for the protection of your information page, avoid risks to your main website, and the content created is often not quality affect the user experience, frustrated and lose credibility.
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