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.NET vs .ORG Real world live test with xfactor method

by clickbump
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If you saw the other thread on how my .net xfactor niche site made money 2 days after launching with a #5 G ranking, then was delisted just this morning, then this thread might be of interest to you.

Since the launch was so successful (up until the point of delisting), I'm going to try the same site launch (without the apparently critical mistake I made) with the .ORG

Everything will be exactly the same, but using .ORG in the domain name vs .NET but I will try my best not to botch the initial adsense crawl like I did on the previous site.
#live #method #net #org #real #world #xfactor
  • Profile picture of the author clickbump
    Step 1: Got the domain at 1and1. Hooray!

    Next up:
    Make a copy of the .net site using find/replace to change the .net references to .org
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      OK, find and replace done. I also renamed some of the css classes so as not to risk any footprint issues with the old similar site. Not sure if this makes any difference whatsover, but ounce of prevention, pound of cure and all that jazz...

      One question I have is with the google_ad_slot ID. Should this be unique across all my sites? I've just been copying and pasting my adsense block every time I create a new site, but I notice that this ID I've never changed since I got my code for the first site.

      Only reason I ask is that I want to make sure there's no ties between this site and the previous one.

      Anyone know?
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  • Profile picture of the author D3t0x
    When you say delisted do you mean sandboxed? or are they deindexed?

    If you type your site in quotes and it still comes up that means it will probably bounce back to the top of the SERPS provided you start building backlinks.

    Most new domains get an early good ranking and this wears off usually after 2 weeks of being indexed. You need to build backlinks to keep that spot.

    If you follow the exact same steps you did with using your .NET domain I can guarantee the same will happen for your .ORG as well.

    I have already bought over 60 domains following xfactors method and all sites were sandboxed after the initial jump they received, but only to come back up later (some not all)..Theses were .COM's, .NET's and .ORG's
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbump
    1) create an Add on domain at hostgator to host the site
    Done!
    Minor glitch with the default subdomain since it already existed for the previous site. HG chat support quickly enlightened me and resolved it. HG chat support is Number One!

    2) change dns at 1and1 to point to hostgator nameservers:
    Waiting on 1and1 to officially obtain domain control. Domain status is currently: "The domain has been requested".

    3) upload the site to hostgator (without adsense until indexed!)
    Done!
    I should have made this step 2, since it can be done before DNS setup. I use Firefox FireFTP btw...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew O
    Hey Clickbump, thank you for sharing this experiment, I read the other thread and I'm looking forward to how this turns out!
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  • Profile picture of the author ravichauhan
    OK, find and replace done. I also renamed some of the css classes so as not to risk any footprint issues with the old similar site. Not sure if this makes any difference whatsover, but ounce of prevention, pound of cure and all that jazz...
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    Good luck with it.

    I buy .com THEN .org. I skip .net unless forced into it.

    I have many .orgs and one of my top AdSense earners for years is a .org and it's a freaking rock at #1.

    Looking forward to reading more.
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    • Profile picture of the author clickbump
      Originally Posted by JMartin View Post

      Good luck with it.

      I buy .com THEN .org. I skip .net unless forced into it.

      I have many .orgs and one of my top AdSense earners for years is a .org and it's a freaking rock at #1.

      Looking forward to reading more.
      Probably a good strategy I suppose. We will soon find out. I've done well with both. Lately, its come down to cost: 1and1 has a very low cost special right now on .NET domains (with no cost domain privacy to boot) :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author JMartin
        Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

        Probably a good strategy I suppose. We will soon find out. I've done well with both. Lately, its come down to cost: 1and1 has a very low cost special right now on .NET domains (with no cost domain privacy to boot) :-)
        Yeah, no cost privacy is very nice. And when you buy a lot of domains, $15 .orgs can get old really fast.
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      • Profile picture of the author clickbump
        While waiting for the nameserver update to kick in, I've taken the time to write an article that i will use to promote the site.

        If any of you are students of the xfactor method, you know that the article's subject matter does not have to be in any way connected with your niche.

        The sole purpose of the article is to get your site's main keyword out there so that the google bot can give you a backlink credit. Hopefully the article is compelling enough to be picked up by lots of other websites. This gives your article writing efforts, compounding interest if you will. One tiny little article with your main site's keywords in the resource box URL can yield an unlimited number of backlinks, or more likely, just one.

        I only expect my article to generate one backlink so I'm not disappointed if nothing happens and the article does not get picked up. It's definitely a bonus if it does!

        As an aside: Right now I'm down with the flu and so is my seven year old son. If any of you ever had to take tamiflu, particularly in liquid form, you know how absolutely terrible it tastes. So I chose to write about the experience of trying to get a young child to take a pill for the first time and some tips I can offer to help other parents do the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbump
    Update:
    Digg.com rocks! Site got indexed 10 hours ago according to google's site:domain info
    That's only a few hours after it was initially posted to digg!

    Still not ranked in top 100 according to ranktracker, but I expect that any moment now. As an interesting aside, as I posted on the other thread, the .net is back in the index and sitting at #6
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  • Profile picture of the author JMartin
    I write in my niche, but not for my KWPs.

    Example:

    Let's say I have a site about traveling to Las Vegas. I'd write LV travel articles that use upper-level KWPs (like Las Vegas or Las Vegas Travel) or something else, but stay away from my main money KWPs (for instance, Las Vegas Cheap Hotels or something).

    This way:

    1. My articles are related to my site.

    2. I'm not giving away the farm.

    3. I'm not boosting a listing (EZA) over mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbump
    Just to keep this thread on topic, here's an update on the site comparison...

    The .net version of the site just reappeared this morning in the G index at #6 just as it was before delisting. I had already removed the htaccess redirect as well as adsense prior to its reappearance in the index. I'm not sure if it was this that got the site back in good graces or not. That's really all I did. I was expecting it to take much longer which is why I went ahead and jumped on the .org

    So now we have two sites competing for the same searches! Not sure of the wisdom of that, but it is what it is and might make for some interesting split testing with different templates and copy. That's how I intend to use it anyway.

    As an update, the .org has been indexed as previously indicated, shortly after it was dugg at digg.com. This does not mean that a digg always works this fast to get a site indexed, however, as I have two sites that were created and dugg at the same time I did the digg on the .net version of this site and they are not yet indexed for whatever reason.

    The .org is still not ranked, .net is sitting at #6 and earning.

    Once the .org gets to the top page, I will begin split testing between the .org and .net sites. The .net site is dressed in my slightly modified version of the xfactor template and the .org will be running in a template of my own design that has generated some very impressive conversion numbers on a low traffic niche site (it bears no resemblance at all to xfactor version).

    At one point, this particular template was converting so well, I felt like doing something so that it would tamp down conversions. It was scarily effective at drawing out clicks. Shortly thereafter, the site got placed in the back of the dance line and has not been back on stage.
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    • Profile picture of the author htedf
      Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

      At one point, this particular template was converting so well, I felt like doing something so that it would tamp down conversions. It was scarily effective at drawing out clicks. Shortly thereafter, the site got placed in the back of the dance line and has not been back on stage.
      Um...maybe I'm a bit slow...but why would you want to "tamp down conversions"?

      Ted
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  • Profile picture of the author jayanuaria
    Conclusion?
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  • Profile picture of the author jayanuaria
    Conclusion?
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  • Profile picture of the author clickbump
    Originally Posted by jayanuaria View Post

    Conclusion?
    The .net version has been going strong since day 1 (with the one exception of the redirect mistake that got it delisted for a couple of days) but the .org never caught on...

    I did this experiment way back in September and I've sense learned (after launching several of both types of sites) It likely makes no difference whether a site carries a .org or a .net - I've got sites with both extensions that stay on page 1 and earn fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceeme
    i buy only .COM .NET .ORG
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