Traditional SEO Dying

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With the crackdown on old school methods of SEO, how are startup businesses gaining momentum with little or no advertising budget?
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  • Profile picture of the author MotoJao
    If you are nearly broke and want to start it can be very hard to begin your online Journey.

    Paid traffic is just faster, but again more risky.

    I´m not sure what you will be promoting, but Youtube would be the best, and easiest way to start your free traffic campaigns.

    Remember to target keywords that you can rank for.

    If you want to rank on YT Adam Payne, Jonas Lindgren or Michael Kohler are people who know a lot about ranking on Youtube, and you might look into what they are doing :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author expmrb
    Focus in your link profile its not dead and nor will be anytime soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ella Rich
    SEO can never die. Search Engine Optimization is a time consuming process and we don't have habit to wait even if we know few things do take time. When we don't see results in 2 or 3 months we start thinking that the thing we are doing does not work anymore and same is the case with SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by dynamyt100 View Post

    With the crackdown on old school methods of SEO, how are startup businesses gaining momentum with little or no advertising budget?
    If you have little or no advertising budget, you probably should not be starting a business.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      If you have little or no advertising budget, you probably should not be starting a business.

      Lol.

      Seriously, it cost almost nothing to build/host a site and tons of free traffic on the web. Sure time is money and all that stuff but If someone is determined to start a successful business online it doesn't require money, especially for advertising.

      This assumes someone knows what they're doing and can think on their own.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I've never been a fan of SEO. Seems like too much work / time for what may or may not pay off.

    I've also never been a huge fan of free traffic methods, as many will not be worth the time it takes to implement. Of course, there will always be exceptions.

    With free traffic strategies, your success will likely come down to what you are promoting.

    I had a friend that started an e-cig juice business. He initially promoted it solely through facebook groups, as a means of getting people to try his stuff. Most everyone loved his flavors and it was a huge success and he is now doing over $200K per month.

    If you're promoting some affiliate MMO offer, it's just going to be noise and you won't stand out.

    In most cases, it takes money to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarriorWasim
    Seo is not dead but it takes time and not easy as it was before. Building authority is also important and Google loves that. Thanks :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author IdosellShop
      Each service has its life cycle, since SEO gets overcrowded you have to add new elements to your strategy like SEM, affiliate program, loyalty programs and more. We live in omnichannel environment so relaying on only one channel might be beneficial in case of market monopoly.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahsonwp
    So the way SEO was once done has changed (many years ago). And if you want to benefit from the organic traffic, you better should adapt to new methods of optimizing and promoting website.

    To answer your questions. Focus on content marketing and press release. Videos does help but content outranks every other aspect of marketing and building a brand out of your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    If by "Traditional" you mean LAZY SEO, you're absolutely correct

    It's not like Google hasn't warned webmasters and publishers about these changes 7 years ago

    Google keeps talking about BRAND

    That's for a good reason

    Real companies build BRAND ENTITIES

    Churn and Burn publishers don't care about brands ... all they care about is traffic

    Well, given FRED's changes and RANK BRAIN, churn and burn is dying a slow horrible death.

    Start building a BRAND based on REAL engaging and valuable content...NOW before it's too late
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by dynamyt100 View Post

    With the crackdown on old school methods of SEO, how are startup businesses gaining momentum with little or no advertising budget?
    They're doing it with something called "Initial Coin Offerings". See this article for more info on this... https://blog.coinbase.com/app-coins-...l-8b8c951e734f
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  • Profile picture of the author ktz16
    I think any SEO is risky Too many unknowns and you're devoting your time to the search engines and not your customers, where your focus really should be. IMO, there is too much uncertainty with SEO to make it your main marketing strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author hynds
    Originally Posted by dynamyt100 View Post

    With the crackdown on old school methods of SEO, how are startup businesses gaining momentum with little or no advertising budget?
    I don't think SEO will be die soon. At a startup business, I think you may have a detail SEO strategy for a long-term development. If you prepare it well, maybe in some months, you will get better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author seomental
    seo is not dying,some old school methods are still working .
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  • Profile picture of the author nayyartarun09
    why the traditional SEO is getting vanished for website optimization because of slow results-oriented methods for getting ranked but in today's competition everyone wants quick results and people have started relying on smo and google or facebook ads for the expedite response for their business
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  • Profile picture of the author fratt55
    hey there

    seo is the life blood of search engines ,,,it takes time ..say 2-3 months

    if you dont see great results in that time frame then you
    you have a optimization issue
    sco is here to stay...it will never die
    ok
    talk soon
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Payne
    The flip side of that is because SEO is a lot harder now many SEO's have dropped out or stopped doing it. Without a doubt, there is still a need for SEO's for small businesses if you understand how to sell it. Most of the times I target clients on the 2nd or 3rd page of Google that have existing websites that are easier to rank. I would not recommend trying to rank a new website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mattsaas
    To me old SEO is still the new SEO.

    Yes, there were "easy" ways to do SEO 5 years ago that no longer exist. But the best way to rank well is still creating quality content that is better than your competitors, and place it on a well-optimized site.

    If you do this, you will rank well, and you will get traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by dynamyt100 View Post

    With the crackdown on old school methods of SEO, how are startup businesses gaining momentum with little or no advertising budget?
    Fail.

    All worked in 1999 and still work in 2017.
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    Maybe you're confusing old SEO with old spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Darn you, Yukon!

      How dare you not make simple things complicated?

      How are people going to complain about SEO if they get SEO to work? Where's the fun in being an internet marketer without something you can complain about forever? Where's the fun in simply producing tangible results?

      I'm so tired of all these SEO-is-dead threads and their relatives (direct mail is dead, solo ads are dead, adwords is dead, online marketing is dead, etc.)

      The day my first mortgage client closed on the first SEO-produced loan, I talked to another mortgage broker who told me, in no uncertain terms, that internet marketing did not work. It did not work because he'd done it for 2 years without producing results. It was 'it' that was the problem; him not knowing how to market online had nothing to do with nothing.

      The day I spent over $1k on some exercise equipment promoted through Adwords, some marketer on this forum was stating that Adwords does not work for exercise equipment: too crowded, therefore, too expensive.

      Why don't people just get it: if you know how to do it, it works. If you don't, go get some learning, don't start it-is-dead thread, no matter what the it in question is.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Fail.

      All worked in 1999 and still work in 2017.
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      Maybe you're confusing old SEO with old spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    In my opinion seo its the hard way to go with marketing and you need a lot of patience to succed with it .Take your decision if you want to pay the price
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