Have you heard of a company named "business domination dot org"?

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I got a phone call from these guys this morning:

business domination dot org (remove spaces and put a period instead of "dot")

They offer a way to get you on the first page of Google. They guarantee it too (at least they say they'll pay you back if you don't appear #1 on the page for all your search phrases within just 1 week!)

Since I have seen many things about not doing this or that with Google, I am thinking that whatever they are doing is probably great for a small while (maybe 3 to 6 months) and then it all goes down once Google finds out / detects what has happened and good luck to ever get back on track...

Looking at one example, the website has a blog with entries that are verbatim copies of posts on other websites... (Although there is a Source: ... link at the bottom, I would imagine that it's either not that useful or very dangerous since duplicate content is verbotten, right?)

So, I'm looking into whether you've heard of them or whether their claims are dangerous... Since they showed me an example of what works, I am not saying that they cannot make it happen, only that they may be using black hat magic to make it all happen.

Note that it is #1 on the page without Google AdWords. It's there in what looks like a genuine Google search (SEO that works in 1 week!?)
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I have not heard of this particular company, but these companies all have some sort of a catch.

    Sometimes they use AdWords (you were right to ask about that).

    Often times they pick the keywords, and they'll choose something with no competition that nobody searches for.

    Other times the contract will say if they fail to get you ranking in whatever timeframe they promised, they have another 6 months to make it right.

    There is always some kind of catch to let them off the hook. I would read their contract and/or guarantee before doing any kind of business with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I always wonder, if they're so good at SEO why do they have to cold call (or spam) anyone to get new clients? If they're so good, shouldn't they have plenty of clients from their own rankings and referrals by satisfied customers?
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    Hi Alexis,

    If they are cold calling you and say that you can reach Page 1 of Google through their services, erase them from your memory. 2 red flags, because reputable companies turn down business left and right - they are the Hunted, not The Hunter - and do not make such claims.

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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Ryan and Dennis nailed it.

    Any SEO company that is cold calling for business is not one I would ever deal with. Reputable companies have clients banging on their doors, not the other way around.

    The biggest red flag is that they say they can get you to #1 for all your search phrases within just 1 week. Yeah, right! Tell them you want to rank #1 for "porn", "online poker", "buy viagara" and "auto insurance".
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

    Any SEO company that is cold calling for business is not one I would ever deal with. Reputable companies have clients banging on their doors, not the other way around.

    That is a bit of nonsense. Sure companies might be selective in who they work with, but some of the most reputable companies in the world across all industries still have an army of salespeople out there banging on doors or working in call centers to bring in business.
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    • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      That is a bit of nonsense. Sure companies might be selective in who they work with, but some of the most reputable companies in the world across all industries still have an army of salespeople out there banging on doors or working in call centers to bring in business.
      "in all industries" is not the same as the SEO industry. Can you name a single reputable SEO company that is cold calling potential clients and guaranteeing #1 rankings?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

        "in all industries" is not the same as the SEO industry. Can you name a single reputable SEO company that is cold calling potential clients and guaranteeing #1 rankings?
        I didn't say anything about guaranteeing rankings, but yes there are plenty of good SEO companies that cold call companies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Titu Islam
    Yes,I Know this company .This Is a services Company. There provide services to:Computer Sales & Repairs
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    • Profile picture of the author markmooner1000
      You are full of it "Mr. Brown" You have no contact info other than a phone number that links to business domination. This is Fraud 100%
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    • Profile picture of the author markmooner1000
      You have been with them for 3 years, even though they have only been in business for 9 months. These guys are idiots and cant believe anyone would fall for this ridiculous sham.
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    • Profile picture of the author markmooner1000
      Haaa "Mr. Brown"s website is also down now too. The AG must have found them. Very glad they will be hunted down now by the authorities.
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  • I spoke with one of their reps yesterday. They reminded me of time-share salespeople. The consummate bull-dog that does not let go. I'm in sales too, and I understand overcoming objections, but the hard sale with irrelevant questions like "Why would you make a conscious decision to remain anonymous and hide from prospects on the web?" piss me off. For that reason alone, I hung up on the rep yesterday. Today's follow up: Just the same.

    I did speak with the two people their presentation pointed to as successful references. One was Mr. Brown, above. Says this program has resulted in a few closings and has been very profitable. However, his web site seems suspicious to me, as he has no email address, no physical address for his broker (or whether he's a broker), and no way to contact him online in any way other than calling him. My point of reference, though, are the rules we have to follow in Texas. So, he might be 100% compliant with state laws and I just don't know. Also, I found no "John Brown" or "Jonathan Brown" in the Arizona Department of Real Estate search for licensees. The other example was a part-time agent who said she's been with the program for 8 months or so and has made one sale to a lead that came from her web site, and that has paid for her investment. She said they call regularly to check up on progress. But she said she's not getting the results in traffic that she expected based on the presentation. She is a licensed agent in her state, and her web site is closer to comply with what I would expect in Texas because of the regulations we have to follow.

    Lastly, I cannot find any information about them via a third party. There's their web site and ... nothing else. No facebook page. A twitter account with just a few followers (and tweets that look like advertising for their services), no online reviews other than a couple postings on forums like this one. Weird. Suspicious. I can't even find them on organic results if I search for "seo for real estate ..." (agent, brokerage, broker, web site, you fill in the blank). So, not practicing what they preach?

    My bottom line: The lack of a footprint on the web and their salespeople, who in my case, became the "sales prevention department" lost this deal. Bummer for them, even if I'm losing out on an opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
    Originally Posted by Alexis Wilke View Post

    They offer a way to get you on the first page of Google. They guarantee it too (at least they say they'll pay you back if you don't appear #1 on the page for all your search phrases within just 1 week!)
    Have you forgotten what P. T. Barnum said:
    "There's a sucker born every minute" and business domination is in business to prove it



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  • Profile picture of the author markmooner1000
    This company is a scam 100%. Everything on their site is fake. Look for yourself.

    www (dot) businessdomination (dot) org

    Sioux Falls, SD

    1. They were formed in July 2017 and show clients from 2006.
    2. All of their so-called affiliates have never heard of them.
    3. The address is a shopping mall. My buddy drove over there and they don't exist.
    4. None of the so-called success stories have ever even heard of them either.
    5. They have 3 different addresses listed.
    6. they have no company name on the phone numbers when I try to call them
    7. no contact email address listed, ANYWHERE
    8. They will not verify anything about the company.
    They randomly cold called and said they were referred but could not say who sent it.
    9. Every link they supposedly have on the site links to nowhere.
    10. All the twitter followers are fake too.
    11. The facebook business page is disabled or was forced to shut it down.

    RUN.. This is a really ugly scam and there are several people involved. Shame on these lousy losers.

    Every person that has defended them is in on the same scam, with different names and the same content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roanoke Patriot
    Has anyone filed complaint with the AG or attorney?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Johnson
    I used their service. A complete scam And I lost 1900.00 I disputed with Visa Because of the money back guarantee, and was told in the e document I signed states no refunds and no complaints are allowed. Visa has since paid the dispute back. I did get ten search phrases that directed to a page with incorrect information from an old website I had. There fix was to tell me I needed to buy a $6000.00 website they provide if I wanted it corrected. And still VISA upheld the dispute in their favor This is a complete scam stay away
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