As long as the page in question is indexed by Google, it should have some value.

I would think that any backlink is better than none at all. I would focus on the higher ranked sites but would not shun away pr0/1/2/3 sites.

Thanks for the answers guys.
But do you think that I should accept also sites that are not in my theme?
If lets say my theme be accessories like jewelry and such and I see a site
which is about general fashion(clothes, patsz, haute couture and all that bs)..
is it a good idea to have a semi-fous on those type of sites too?
And what about a site that has nothing to do with my site but I have a clear
shot for a 1 way blacklink, should I take it?

The PR of a site will fluctuate.
It may be PR0, but have a lot of relevant traffic. Likewise it may be PR5 and have little traffic.

The PR5 link helps with SEO, but the PR0 link may simply produce raw traffic.

If the PR0 link produced 90 unique ad quality visitors per day, and you can convert 1 in 100 quality visitors to buyers, I think a few PR0 links like that could add up to nice additional traffic.

Remember, not everyone goes through Google. Maybe the site isn't blessed by Google, but if it has a strong following or heavy favor from another search engine, it could be important as well.

PR only reflects Google Love, not User Love, not Yahoo! Love, MSN Love, etc.

As for backlinks from non-related or semi related sites, the semi related sites will probably be better quality traffic, and say fashion -> jewelry isn't a huge leap.

If a quality site outside your niche is available, sure, you can take the link, but make sure the site is a good one you won't regret later.

Thanks for the clear answer m8, most appreciated

I would think that any site worth it's salt, over time would have an abundance of links from every PR, that's the natural part of the equation that we all talk about. This was already stated above by Tom (sort of). I go for relevance, but then there are others who say simply links.

Who know, maybe a car site would say... hey guys it's okay if you love dogs, they need love too. Thus a link from an automotive site to a pet site. It's a web out there.

I feel that PR0's are still valuable even though they don't give as my PR to the site. Yes, more relevant sites are better to have links pointing to your site, but in the end, I feel that any backlink will still help. It might just take more of them.

These are my thoughts, though, and can't be considered as facts.

Thanks for the answers y'all xD

But say.. how do I go about getting many relevant PR0 backlinks?
I mean, for a pr2+ backlink I'm willing to dedicate some time and hustle about
to get it.

But for PR0 I can't possible waste as much time as I waste on the PR2+ backlinks.. can I? :/
I mean.. getting 800+ PR0 backlinks seems like a massive headache.

If lets say I post in forums(and have a link to my site from my sig), and each thread has on
average PR0, so each post that I made is counted as another PR0 back to my site? just askin`..

plzzz answar

Remember that PR0 backlink can grow to become PR1, PR2, or PR3 backlink in the next Google update.

And, don't have to worry about "how many should I get for PR0, how many to get for PR4, how many to get for PR8, etc"

Just keep on getting links naturally.

The important thing it to keep a good variety in terms of the type of backlinks (ie. forum backlinks, run-of-site links, single backlink, multiple backlinks, etc) and the PR backlinks.


It will work well.

kk, thx m8 xD

I always look at PR0 sites as an investment, over time, depending on how that webmaster markets his/her site, their PR will increase.

ultimately a link is still a link. if the pr0 site is relevant to your niche and then it can be somewhat valuable.

This whole PR thing is a lot of crap, and a scheme put together by Google for monitoring, you never really know what the true PR is so you should only look at this as a last indicator

The true acid test is to look at the site itself, if it is relevant and is something you want to be associated with then go with it

Google has always said they want a good visitor experience and you should not be gaming the system

Using the PR Crack is trying the game the system, this is why I feel in many cases its BS, only Google knows what the true indicators are for rankings and page rank

I also know this from my testing and monitoring links many of my lower PR links show when the higher one are never to be seen as links, in addition how many times do you see PR0 sites taking top rankings with very few links I see this all the time so if the PR we see in the Google toolbar was true you would not have a chance in getting rankings, because Google reports the little green line says so.

This is why I doubt seriously the toolbar is accurate in the way we think it counts.

So why buck the system Google has laid it out what they expect a good website to be

Ed

PR0 is still better... Not all PR0 means the website is nothing because it has PR0... It might be a new website... better to have a link from it so that the moment if gets PR2, you are lucky...

You assume that they asked for these links. They most likely didn't. We never ask for links. Any links that we have is because of forum or blog comments (which we control) or they are from sites that chose to link to us. This we can not control. So there is going to be a lot of low PR links.

As long as a link is relevant to my business I will be glad to have it. Those that aren't, to that I say, Oh, well.

Make sure you spend some time looking into how that particular page your linking to ranks.

I've gotten some great traffic from PR0's which are in a great position in the organic search result. Let's face it, it's not really that hard to get a brand new domain ranking well in the search engines if you know what you're doing.

And if that page is ranking well, and it's in my niche, then yes I want a link from it thank you very much, PR0 or not.

I rarely bother focusing on pagerank, I tend to agree with others that it is to a large degree hype or at least the PR rank you see in your browser is many months out of date.

Natural is good, in a real "natural" world you would have all types of sites with different pageranks linking to you, wouldn't you?

And as others have pointed out, if you do believe the PR stuff, some/many of these PR0's will eventually mature into PR1's, 2's, and higher.

I've even gone to the trouble of assisting pages I have a link on but that are owned by someone else. e.g. driving backlinks to that page. Knowing it will have a positive impact for me.

Cheers

HI

Some great replies here, and I don't worry about PR,, it is nice to have a good PR on your site,, but I just focus on building as many backs as I can, from pr0 or pr4-5 sites , its all the same from me..

Tom

I have a site with low PR but appear top in some keywords. Personally I don't care about PR. I looking into PR only when I notice a site has high PR but appear way back in G SERPs. Then I may suspect a sandbox effect has accurred to that site..

Look at the quality of the site you are considering more than the PR. A new site may have a PR0 today but that doesn't mean in won't grow into a high PR site in the future if the webmaster is good and actively promotes the site.

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as long as its indexed, it will help a bit. plus that pr0 may not be pr 0 forever...

Don't forget SITES do not have PageRank, pages do!
On my sites I have internal pages that have higher PR, according to the Google ToyTool, than the index page. As somebody else noted, PR changes but the visible PR you see in the ToyBar is at least a few weeks out of date and may be several months old, it also may not reflect the value given to the page by Google's internal ranking algorithm.
On this basis it is not sensible to reject ANY link from ANY page - they are all good! (Even pages that are not in the visible index - all that is necessary for it to give value to the link is that Google should have spidered the page. (when referring to Google PageRank and not some form of ranking given by other search engines)

Yeh it surely worth if it is free..

PR is not everything. A link from PR 1 site that have content similar to Youre keywords can be stronger than PR 3 link form page not connected with Your content. It's all about quality, not jus PR

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It shouldn't matter to you what the PR is now, you need to think to the future. If the site is good, has good content that is frequently being updated, is targetted to a niche, etc, you can assume that later it will move up in PR. Maybe two years later that little PR0 website is now a PR5 website and you are still benefitting from those links from years ago.

yeah with good anchor text even a pr 0 is worth something.

Aye, thanks for the answers all! xD

When I started in IM, all my sites were PR0... Now, they have more.

So I would say yes.

Franck

When I started in IM, all my sites were PR0... Now, they have more.

So I would say yes because PR0 today is PR after 3 months...

Franck

Personally I usually go with high PR sites unless I feel the site is worth considering as it may grow in PR at a later date. I usually look for good content, good optimisation and site structure. Pay attention to who is already linking to them and who they are linking to. Ultimately in time, considering some sites and making an educated decision can see you reap some reward at a later date. I would spend some time researching the sites and watch them over a period of time to see if the grow in content and links.

better if more and more backlink
...particularly PRs are over our web

link from a well reputated and authroty site counts no matters what is the pr so look for good quality sites.pr will come automatically..

What freetraff said is correct.

And many PR0 links grow to become PR1+ eventually.

Agree they may grow to PR_+ but I usually ignore and dont target the PR0 links.

Some of my clients in link building asked the same question, so I said to them why not restate the statement the other way around.
If you submit links to high PR sites what warranty do you have that the PR increase on the next PR update? PR can decrease.

So don't think about it too much, better get on working and spread the links. PR 0 pages still good for backlinking.

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hundreds of pr0-1 are better than none at all
They all have some sort of value so they are worth getting