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Will Google ever stop dancing with my site??

by Si_P
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I've hit the stage of complete frustration at the moment with one of my sites. It is two weeks old but it just seems that Google is dancing my site all over the 1st page! One minute i'm number 1, then 7, then 3, then 5! ahhhhhh!

Will it ever just go number 1 and stay there? How long does it take to settle?

Thanks,
Si
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    Originally Posted by Si_P View Post

    I've hit the stage of complete frustration at the moment with one of my sites. It is two weeks old but it just seems that Google is dancing my site all over the 1st page! One minute i'm number 1, then 7, then 3, then 5! ahhhhhh!

    Will it ever just go number 1 and stay there? How long does it take to settle?

    Thanks,
    Si
    it's normal....

    google is trying to find out where your site should link naturally
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    • Profile picture of the author Si_P
      How long does this normally take?
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    a few weeks ...but then it will start again if you start to do lots of backlinking.

    don't worry about it there is nothing you can do about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Only two weeks old? I wouldn't worry about it.

    The dance usually takes ~3 weeks for me, on average. But a few times it's taken ~2 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author michael_nguyen
    2 weeks is nothing! try 3-4 months for certain niches and keywords and possibly never.
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  • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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    Originally Posted by Si_P View Post

    I've hit the stage of complete frustration at the moment with one of my sites. It is two weeks old but it just seems that Google is dancing my site all over the 1st page! One minute i'm number 1, then 7, then 3, then 5! ahhhhhh!

    Will it ever just go number 1 and stay there? How long does it take to settle?

    Thanks,
    Si
    Considering the young age of your site, you should not wonder...
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    • Profile picture of the author Si_P
      Thanks for the info folks. I guess i'll just have to be patient.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        You are under the false impression that once a site is #1 it will
        stay there. Your competition is not stopping. You must continue
        to build backlinks and other things. Staying at #1 is not a once-
        achieved-sit-back situation. On any given day, sites will scramble.

        Instead of calling it a google dance, we should call it a competitor
        dance, at which there are times we are wall-flowers.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          You are under the false impression that once a site is #1 it will
          stay there. Your competition is not stopping. You must continue
          to build backlinks and other things. Staying at #1 is not a once-
          achieved-sit-back situation. On any given day, sites will scramble.

          Instead of calling it a google dance, we should call it a competitor
          dance, at which there are times we are wall-flowers.

          Paul
          That is true, but there *is* such thing as a google dance and it *does* sound like the OP is experiencing the dance and not a natural SERP decline.

          The google dance will usually affect new sites, and it means that sites will keep moving about before eventually settling down to a particular page (and around a particular position; but it may move a bit)

          Of course, as you say, once the dance has stopped, you still need to get fresh backlinks otherwise you will start slipping down the SERPs again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Your site is competiting with millions of other sites, so there are bound to be constant fluctuations. No one has the right to remain at No1, and just like you other website owners will be working hard on promoting their sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbenson19
    This should not discourage you. I suggest, be a little aggressive when your rankings are a bit low in Google but once you have achieved the top spot, slowly choose your backlinks and build slowly. just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author Si_P
      I am building around 30 backlinks per day so i am trying to do everything slowly but any advice i take onboard.

      One question though. I am using SEO quake and it looks like there are individual blog pages ranking higher than my main money site. Those blogs have at least 500+ Yahoo LD and my main domain is only showing 5 Yahoo LD.

      Will those pages have a better advantage because of the backlinks pointing to the blog and is that why the page is ahead of mine?
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      • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
        Originally Posted by Si_P View Post

        I am building around 30 backlinks per day so i am trying to do everything slowly but any advice i take onboard.

        One question though. I am using SEO quake and it looks like there are individual blog pages ranking higher than my main money site. Those blogs have at least 500+ Yahoo LD and my main domain is only showing 5 Yahoo LD.

        Will those pages have a better advantage because of the backlinks pointing to the blog and is that why the page is ahead of mine?
        There are lots of factors here...

        I personally would:

        - Not build too many links in the first few weeks (I would go for 1-3 a day MAX)

        - I would start with trusted sources FIRST (I always try to have my very first links come from trusted sources such as EzineArticles or another site you may have access to)

        - I would avoid ANY kind of predictable pattern (you know... 30 links every single day like clockwork ain't natural... Google can see that... in fact that's a pretty nice footprint there)

        - I would VARY my anchor texts I am linking with.

        Example?

        If the main keyword for a page on my site was "blue widget review" I would backlink to it using anchor texts like these...

        "blue widget review"
        "review of blue widget"
        "blue widget feedback"
        "click here for a blue widget review"
        "click here"

        You get the idea... That works great IMO :-)

        - I would build most links to my home-page.

        - I would ignore my exact ranking in the first few months... it really dances (especially for competitive niches) What matters is that you just get some consistent traffic, even if you are not on page 1.

        - I would not monetize my page (with AdSense or affiliate offers) in the first few weeks, until I get indexed...

        So... that's how I do it and it works fine, not always... but most of the time :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          While you are building 1-3 backlinks a day, your competition is building hundreds.

          How soon do you want to earn money...today or a month from now?

          Since nobody can control how many people link to us....think about that.

          The faster you do everything, and the more you do it, the better.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            While you are building 1-3 backlinks a day, your competition is building hundreds.

            How soon do you want to earn money...today or a month from now?

            Since nobody can control how many people link to us....think about that.

            The faster you do everything, and the more you do it, the better.

            Paul
            The total number of backlinks doesn't seem to matter so much anymore as it once did. Old sites can get many links naturally, that's true, but for very new fresh sites that's unnatural. That's what I am building for new sites... and it works for me. I would never hammer a brand new domain with 100 or even 30 links per day to start with. That's just my way of doing it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Si_P
              I can see where you are coming from. I'm sure it takes a while for the links to be picked up so why push it? I really dont want to jeopardize my sites rankings.
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