Tracking Help

Hey Angel Man,

Google Conversion Tracking is ok... It's not as accurate as I would like it to be, but it works decent. It's great if you're a product owner.

Here's the downside, you have to place some code on the thank you page of the offer. Easy enough if you you're the product owner. But as an affiliate it's more difficult to get that done.

So Prosper202 uses the sub Id mechanism built into most affiliate programs so you don't need to place any code on the thank you page, of course you still have that option if you want to automate your tracking or if you're a product owner.

For affiliates Prosper202 also cloaks your data so that affiliate managers and publishers can't share your hard earned campaign data or steal it outright from you.

There are some other advantages too like you can use Prosper202 for more than just Google and PPC in general.

You can track most any marketing link you put out there...

There are several tracking options available... It really depends on whether your a product owner or an affiliate or both and what your needs are. It's going to vary a little for most every campaign.

Hope that helps out...

Thanks,

Derek

Hey Angel Man,

You're welcome...

Well, there is a reason why he uses GCT code for content network tracking.

Basically you need to know which website (domain) and actual web page(s) are converting. You also need to know which ads are converting for you if you're split testing. As well as which Ad Group the ads came from.

So using GCT is a good way to do that, but not the only way. Also when you use GCT you don't get real-time stats, it takes 48 hours or so before you can pull the reports.

You can use Prosper202 / Tracking202 to get that same information.

You can also use other tracking software like Affiliate Prophet to get that information too and if you doing CPA offers you can combine both Prosper202 / Tracking202 and Affiliate Prophet to gather a wealth of information on your campaigns.

What's important is that you get the proper information so you can use it to build out your Placement campaign.

Now that is a great benefit of GCT... It does work seamlessly with Adwords Editor. Most of your other tracking system will require links for the tracking so a little extra work is needed.

The good news is the extra work pays some dividends like real-time tracking information, cloaking your links in the case of Prosper202 / Tracking202, and some other cool stuff.

Well, I wouldn't say most CPA networks allow for adding a tracking pixel, but many do. Most of the time you're dependent on your Affiliate Manager to make sure it gets done for you. There are some exceptions where you can add your tracking pixel or postback URL right in the you affiliate network system.

As far as adding the GCT to the Sub Id system, I would sure like to know how that works. The Sub Id system is quite a bit different then the GCT and uses a unique identifier added to you affiliate link to give you a clue where your conversions are coming from.

The GCT is an image pixel that fires from the thank you page when you make a conversion. How would that fire as a Sub Id?

The Sub Id system is how Propser202 and Tracking202 work. They add a unique Id to your affiliate links. You can then pull a report from your affiliate network and update your Sub Id's in P202 or T202 and you know where your conversion are coming from.

I honestly don't think adding your GCT code as a Sub Id will work with the affiliate networks Sub Id system. I could be wrong...

Prosper202 and Tracking202 will help with any affiliate network that uses a Sub Id system or allows for a tracking pixel or postback URL.

Even better your P202 / T202 tracking pixel or postback URL are universal so you can place that same pixel on any offer page and still get your stats. And it works for all your different search engine traffic including Google, Yahoo, and MSN among other traffic sources.

No need to have your Affiliate Manager placing a million different tracking pixel's on all the different offers you're promoting.

So you can't cloak links using the GCT code... It's just an image pixel, that's it. Nothing fancy there.

Sure you can combine multiple tracking systems at the same time... It's actually pretty cool to do that.

It's hard to make a suggestion when I don't know what you're trying to accomplish... Depending on what you're doing will depend on a good route to take for your tracking.

If you want to provide some details I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.

I'm actually in the process of updating the videos currently as I have received a ton of feedback so far which is really helping me make them much better. I have a lot of videos to do and am going way more in depth then before and step-by-step, if all goes well, I won't miss any dots this time.

I'm also setting up a customer only blog in which all new updates will go. It's nearly finished. Once I have it done, all my customers will be getting an invite.

When the videos are done, I'll be posting them to the blog and sending out notification that they're ready. There will also be customer support right from the blog that's all in one place.

Hope this helps...

I appreciate the purchase... Updates are coming.

Thanks,

Derek

Hey Angel Man,

You're welcome...

I can tell you right now if you want to use the big 3 search engines and cloak your affiliate links, Prosper202 is the best way to do it. It'll cover 1 - 5 above no problems.

As far as Adwords Editor and Prosper202 you already have my videos so you know how I explain tracking Content Network campaigns. You'll just need to pay attention to which links go with which ads and which ad groups. So you have to pay a bit of attention when setting up your content network campaigns in Adwords Editor, really not a big deal, but takes some effort.

With the GCT code you don't have to worry about that because it's all cookie based so you'll get the info in the reports you pull, making it easier to setup your campaigns with Adwords Editor.

The downside to the GCT code is you have to get that code placed on the thank you page, very often much easier said than done. And that doesn't even cover Yahoo and Bing yet.

Even if you want to use a tracking pixel or postback URL (my favorite), you can use just one universal tracking pixel from Prosper202 and it covers all your tracking needs not just the Big G. Which seems like the better deal to me.

Prosper202 will work with any affiliate Network that has a Sub Id tracking system which Clickbank and CJ both have. And even if they don't have a Sub Id tracking system you can use the tracking pixel or post back URL if you can get them placed on the thank you page. Even product owners can track their campaigns using the tracking pixel.

So Prosper202 seems to be the better choice for everything your trying to track. Feel FREE to use Big G, Yahoo, and Bing tracking pixels if you like, but they aren't necessary.

Hope that helps out...

Thanks,

Derek

Hey kkchoon,

You can probably use Affiliate Prophet to handle that. It's designed for Clickbank tracking.

It works based on your landing page, not a tracking link, which has some big advantages.

I think since it's not designed specifically for SEO, it's not the perfect solution but will give you some details of where your traffic is coming from and what's converting. Especially if you have a lot of backlinks, articles and Web 2.0 properties sending you targeted visitors.

For the actual search engine results it provides the search engine used and the keyword searched for.

I have searches from Bing, Yahoo, Google and many flavors of Google with keywords searched for... It all shows up in Affiliate Prophet for my campaigns.

Will probably work well for you.

Hope that helps...

Thanks,

Derek

Hey Angel Man,

You're most welcome...

For landing page split testing I use Affiliate Prophet. I like it because I can split test 3 different pages at the same time and I get all the advantages of either Prosper202, Tracking202 or Tracking202 Pro and the AIDA numbers on a per page, keyword, etc basis. As well as some other cool features like pulling which words, countries, and other specifics used have the best AIDA numbers and other cool stuff like that.

It really helps when you're trying to figure out what your market is thinking and what problems they need solved, where your message is working best, and those kinds of things.

It's also nice because you can get killer market info without having to wait for 30 conversions (typical industry standard), the AIDA numbers will tell the story for you saving a huge amount of time and money.

I haven't used the Multi-variate / Tugachi tester in AP yet, but will be soon. It comes with the Pro version of AP along with a few other cool features.

As far as the Big G Optimizer I don't use it, but have taken a look at it a few times. My understanding is exactly like yours, it's designed for product owners who have control of the entire sales process. While you can use it for affiliate marketing if you can get the code added to the Thank you / Order Confirmation page, it's usually much easier said then done.

The reason they do that is to be able to tell you which page is getting the conversions. You setup the Optimizer and start sending Targeted Visitors to it. It'll send half your visitors to one page and half to the other. The only way to know which page is converting best is if you have some code on the Thank You page... This is because it'll send a unique ID for each page and when some one orders, they land on the thank you page it can tell which landing page sent the visitor.

The one place the Big G Optimizer can work for you is Squeeze pages if you have a thank you page, since you own that entire process. So if you're building a list, and you should be, you can use the Big G Optimizer to help with that.

There is other split testing software available... Some FREE and some have a cost. You might want to do a little research and see if something can work for you.

I hope that helps out some...

I know it can be confusing how some of this stuff works.

Thanks,

Derek

Hey Angel Man,

You're welcome...

No, I don't use that script. Often times visitors return so I want some assurance that they will see the same landing page they saw the first time. That makes their experience much better which is good for business.

So I use scripts that are a little more sophisticated. Plus I like to have much more information provided so I can make better decisions much faster.

Feel free to give it a test.

Thanks,

Derek