Angela's Links Still Working Well For Everyone?

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Angela and Fellow Warriors,

Is your linking method still working well. The reason I ask Google has a tendency to manipulate the rankings to their own liking at their own whim.

I signed up for the your service already, but I am looking to incorporate this into the company I work for so I wanted to know the effectiveness others are currently seeing.

I have heard rave reviews, but just wanted a confidence boost from yourself and others currently using the service.

Thanks,
David
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    Why don't you pm Angela or send her an email directly to find out?
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    • Profile picture of the author David McAnulty
      Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

      Why don't you pm Angela or send her an email directly to find out?
      In the process of doing that right now.

      Wanted to see how it is working for multiple people in different markets as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    I have been using profile/member links for ages and my sites are doing very nicely, so I have to say yes they still work. The only time they won't is if so many people are using the same packets that Google notice the pattern and start doing something about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark_w
      Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

      I have been using profile/member links for ages and my sites are doing very nicely, so I have to say yes they still work. The only time they won't is if so many people are using the same packets that Google notice the pattern and start doing something about it.

      I don't know if this is known info or not as I'm new to all this, but how many people use these backlinks every month and how many people (roughly) would it take for google to take issue with it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Mark_w View Post

        I don't know if this is known info or not as I'm new to all this, but how many people use these backlinks every month and how many people (roughly) would it take for google to take issue with it?
        On a high PR site I don't think the problem with too many people using it is with Google. It depends on the site owner and what he thinks of the influx of signups. Some get antsy and take down the links or make them nofollow and some don't. Despite what some people say some sites don't care ( not all just some). I highly recommend her links. I can't see how you can go wrong with $5. Angela paved the way for a lot of other link packages and she has my respect and recommendation.
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        • Profile picture of the author David McAnulty
          Thanks everyone and especially THANK YOU Angela. I got my package this morning and I am going to run with it.
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  • Much of What Angela does is clever... some is spam. Unfortunately when it come to linking a lot of the people buying her packets have no idea how to create a link that won't get banned. So those people will not have success.

    People who learn how to place a quality link will do well. It's exclusive of the packets. You need to learn how to contribute to the sites you link from.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    I can't see why they wouldn't on the face of it. Sure as Internetmaketing alluded to alot of people use those packages that can spoil it for everyone but Angela has tried to educate them on using the links properly and even if some sites veto the links its hard to claim it isn't still a good deal at $5.
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  • Profile picture of the author keenstyle1
    I havn't contributed to the forums where the links were put at all. It says in her diretions you don't have to, but I guess I would.
    Are you guys seeing your links in those forums getting indexed? If so how long??
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    • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
      Originally Posted by keenstyle1 View Post

      I havn't contributed to the forums where the links were put at all. It says in her diretions you don't have to, but I guess I would.
      Are you guys seeing your links in those forums getting indexed? If so how long??
      I use all of the packets and IMHO I think it is a bad idea to just let your profile links sit there. Some of them will be found eventually, many of them probably won't.

      What I do is:

      (1) Ping each backlink (try pingler.com)
      (2) Make an RSS feed of the 25 of the profile backlinks using html2rss.com
      (3) Add the newly created RSS feed to FeedBurner, creating a nice pretty name (the rss feeds can look like http://feeds.feedburner.com/my-site). And oh, feedburner is owned by Google by the way
      (4) Submit this new Feedburner feed to the various RSS aggregators out there. You can do it on your own, or use software. RSSbot is a popular option. I use the RSS module built into Brute Force SEO.
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      • Profile picture of the author raamanand
        Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

        I use all of the packets and IMHO I think it is a bad idea to just let your profile links sit there. Some of them will be found eventually, many of them probably won't.

        What I do is:

        (1) Ping each backlink (try pingler.com)
        (2) Make an RSS feed of the 25 of the profile backlinks using html2rss.com
        (3) Add the newly created RSS feed to FeedBurner, creating a nice pretty name (the rss feeds can look like http://feeds.feedburner.com/my-site). And oh, feedburner is owned by Google by the way
        (4) Submit this new Feedburner feed to the various RSS aggregators out there. You can do it on your own, or use software. RSSbot is a popular option. I use the RSS module built into Brute Force SEO.
        I'd also like to add Active Bookmarking to this list.
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        • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
          Originally Posted by raamanand View Post

          I'd also like to add Active Bookmarking to this list.
          Ya know, I used to do that. However, with the volume of backlinks that I get, even with bookmarking demon it just got too difficult for me to do that. So, I guess it depends on the volume of backlinks a day that one is generating.
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          • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
            Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

            Ya know, I used to do that. However, with the volume of backlinks that I get, even with bookmarking demon it just got too difficult for me to do that. So, I guess it depends on the volume of backlinks a day that one is generating.
            I'm in the same boat. Instead of bookmarking the actual individual backlinks I bookmark the RSS feed instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephajain
    Ya the links are really very helpful
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaysmyne
    I think I need to get back into Angela's packets, I have MONTHS and MONTHS of packets and a few websites that could do well with the promotion these packets offer - ESPECIALLY with my sites not jumping any PR in the last PR Update.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettech
      Lol, exactly, I think I need to start using those old packets as well.

      I just went through a spreadsheet that I made from 2 packets ago and from about 35 links, only about 3-5 of them were nofollow/vanished so I was actually quite surprised. None of my links were indexed so Ive just mass submitted an rss feed. It'd be interesting to see what happens next.

      Originally Posted by Jaysmyne View Post

      I think I need to get back into Angela's packets, I have MONTHS and MONTHS of packets and a few websites that could do well with the promotion these packets offer - ESPECIALLY with my sites not jumping any PR in the last PR Update.
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  • Profile picture of the author matts5150
    The packets work well just don't do them all in 1 day and then use pingler unless you already have a decent backlink footprint. I learned the hard way, I did about 180 profile links within a 7 day period and used pingler on each one. On day 8 my site dropped from having 3,500 backlinks indexed on google to having 400 using site:domain and using link:domain my site only shows 1 backlink where it did show a few hundred. My main keyword dropped from page 2 to page 42 overnight.

    This was 3 months ago, I've been adding about 15 links a day since and bookmarking with socialbot and the same keyword finally broke to page 18 on google last week, however it's page 1 for yahoo and bing and has been for awhile now. I even filled a reinclusion request with google last month and still no dice. The thing you have to consider is even if the google algorithm doesn't see it, which it probably won't unless you go a little crazy, if a competitor has google alerts setup for that keyword they may tip off google that you're trying to manipulate the serps which is probably what happened in my case as they have also been trying to do sql injections on my server and run up my adwords bill. That's another story though.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Dales
      Yes it works and I have proven it many times. As an example, my team did an outsourcing job to place Angela's links for a fellow Warrior just a few days ago. He ordered just 20 backlinks and he specified a very competitive keyword. Before we placed the links his site was #462 in Google. After 2 days and after we pointed 20 links, his site jumped to #358 in Google for that very competitive keyword.

      That was a massive jump of over 100 for just 20 links. This is a testament of the power of Angela's links and other profile-type links placed in High PR sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author richjo
        Just thought id throw my first post in here.

        I tried Angelas links last month for the first time for a new niche ive entered.

        Once indexed (originally on page 8 for my keyword), i ran through the package and within 6 hours i was top of page 2 (phrase search placed me #5 on page 1!)

        I pinged each backlink after posting,( but only after reading on here, i cannot comment on how much effect this had)

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      • Profile picture of the author Charley Brown
        Originally Posted by John Dales View Post

        Yes it works and I have proven it many times. As an example, my team did an outsourcing job to place Angela's links for a fellow Warrior just a few days ago. He ordered just 20 backlinks and he specified a very competitive keyword. Before we placed the links his site was #462 in Google. After 2 days and after we pointed 20 links, his site jumped to #358 in Google for that very competitive keyword.

        That was a massive jump of over 100 for just 20 links. This is a testament of the power of Angela's links and other profile-type links placed in High PR sites.
        While I believe Angela's links have to work based on the testimonials of others, I wouldn't be so quick to sing the praises based on your experience. While jumping 100 spots is terrific.. just how terrific it is is more based on how competitive the keyword. If you jumped from 110 to #4, then I'd say they did some serious work, but more than likely the sites in the 200-400 range are either brand new, or not optimized at all.

        While it certainly always is the case, I will say that if you do correct on-site SEO, have your keyword in your domain name, and ping and social bookmark your pages once to get google crawling your site, you should hit the top 100 with ease. Heck, I've had sites hit the top 20 for decent keywords (200-300 exact per day) with no content yet just based on having the domain name be the keyword.

        Not to be Donny Downer... just bringing a reality check.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinA
    I used angelas links for two months, for 4 sites (@ 60 links each) - i did not ping nor bookmark the pages. I dont think I have seen much benefit from the links, maybe i should ping them. Has anybody used Angela's packets without pinging/bookmarking but still found exceptional results?
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    • Profile picture of the author Charley Brown
      Originally Posted by kaka21 View Post

      I used angelas links for two months, for 4 sites (@ 60 links each) - i did not ping nor bookmark the pages. I dont think I have seen much benefit from the links, maybe i should ping them. Has anybody used Angela's packets without pinging/bookmarking but still found exceptional results?
      You should always ping and bookmark the pages with the links, or else you may go months, if at all, before google actually crawls that page/profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author desireeaib
    How is pining your site helping your the back links? :confused:

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author seo_freak
    I think here way is getting more saturated with many thousand people opting for the same technique as hers. In years to come here ways will saturate more reducing the effects of the links.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebleu
    I've been using Angela's Links for second time now. And I seem to be having no issues at all

    Just that, a link or two is kinda messed up. Else, A++.

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    • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
      Originally Posted by ebleu View Post

      I've been using Angela's Links for second time now. And I seem to be having no issues at all

      Just that, a link or two is kinda messed up. Else, A++.

      -Anirudh

      Probably no issues but the question(s) still remains (for all packages like this), if there is actually a measurable benefit.
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      • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
        Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

        Probably no issues but the question(s) still remains (for all packages like this), if there is actually a measurable benefit.
        Have you been following Terry Kyle's experiment? His article reached #1 using just Angela's links, nothing else.

        On a side note, one of my sites which is about 2 months old is currently ranked #11 for an IM ranked keyword. Not tons of competition (as compared to something like "weight loss" etc.), but the affiliate program has quite high payouts and the competition is very fierce for the top spots. As of right now, my site has about 65 links showing up per backlinkwatch, whereas all of my comepetitor sites around me in the rankings have in excess of 300. Some over a 1000 links. Not all of my links are super high PR either, as they are more from Terry Kyle's style (i.e., all the same platform), so there are a lot of PR4 and PR5 sites in there too.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

          Have you been following Terry Kyle's experiment? His article reached #1 using just Angela's links, nothing else.

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          Thats not what he said in his opening post. Did he change that? He stated he used his own links and Paul's as well. Theres nothing unique about High PR links. Any number of packages work as long as the links aren't removed or spammed by others. In fact the benefit of his own links could be that they are less used and therefore retain more PR juice. Matt Cutts for Google has made it clear that as PR flows it degrades and more so dependent on the number of links used on and from the site.
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          • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Thats not what he said in his opening post. Did he change that? He stated he used his own links and Paul's as well. Theres nothing unique about High PR links. Any number of packages work as long as the links aren't removed or spammed by others. In fact the benefit of his own links could be that they are less used and therefore retain more PR juice. Matt Cutts for Google has made it clear that as PR flows it degrades and more so dependent on the number of links used on and from the site.
            Note that when I refer to Angela's links i'm referring to high PR profile backlinks, whether they come from Angela or PJ or Terry or KK or whomever. In fact, I prefer Terry's as I can do them about 3x faster than Angelas.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

              Note that when I refer to Angela's links i'm referring to high PR profile backlinks, whether they come from Angela or PJ or Terry or KK or whomever. In fact, I prefer Terry's as I can do them about 3x faster than Angelas.
              Sorry themboodw thats not an accurate way of referring to profile links. Although I respect Angela and she has done alot to promote backlinking in IM circles she did not originate the practice. Every link package out there cannot be called Angela's links. Thats for her good as well. I'm sure if theres are package out there that promote something suspicious she wouldn't want it called that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

        Probably no issues but the question(s) still remains (for all packages like this), if there is actually a measurable benefit.
        Theres no question that there is. Theres all kinds of testimonials on this. Personally to me thats more than enough. You have to understand the reason why some people are not going to jump up and give their sites URL so you can access measurable benefits. Bless Angela for doing it months ago but when you show the site that you used profile links on you are EXPOSING those links for free because those who know how can check those links pretty quickly and for free.

        I don't think I will ever point to a site that I used my backlinks on. You might as well just give those links away for free which would defeat those of us trying to protect the links from spamming and overuse.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    Why Angela Backlinks doesn't Work?

    Hey Warriors, some of you might be very skeptic about Angela backlinks, especially when you already try it and see no result!

    Don't you curious why many warriors see great result while yourself left alone in the dark? Let me explain a little bit of this...

    To make any kind of backlinks work, you need to pick "the right keywords"! What is the right keyword?

    When you try to rank for a keyword, you need to perform competitive analysis, knowing roughly how many competition pages are in Google. For more in-depth analysis, you need to learn top 10 competitive analysis, see how many backlinks for the top 10 website have...

    For example:

    If the keyword you are targeting are in page 1 #10, and it has 1,000 backlinks, you won't beat it unless you have 1,000 better quality backlinks! This is both quantity + quality game, so if you think you can outrank a site with 1,000 High PR backlinks, by just using 60 backlinks, you won't have much luck!

    You can try my fast article traffic method using Angela Backlinks, definately see result in 7 to 21 days!


    How Do I get Massive Traffic + Profit?

    Easy! just follow my article traffic method, and scale it up with tons of articles - outsource is the key...

    Backlinks every articles with necessary number of links, do it until all rank on page 1 and you will start to see the money coming in

    Don't pick super competitive keyword, you are not Daniel Molano, it will take you ages before you can see any result, and most people will give up even before the result shows.


    Conclusion

    Do proper keyword research, balance between searches and competition, pick the lowest competition keyword with the highest searches! Keyword research is the key to SEO success!

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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    I just had an article that was written in August and backlinked with nothing but these links de indexed.

    I made another sales page and used specific product names and and got to the #3 and #6 spot using these links then two days ago poof i was slapped back to page 9.

    I had been back linking since June and making full profiles using only one or two links per site and writing a 200 word or longer bio

    Coincidence who knows for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Sounds like you experienced QDF benefits early on then you dropped back down to your rightful place in the index. You will need to add more.

      Also if you slowed up on the number of links you had been placing - that can have an effect.

      Hard to know without some more specifics.

      Fresh new content getting backlinks gets an early artificial boost in the serps ... then things settle in after a couple weeks.


      Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

      I just had an article that was written in August and backlinked with nothing but these links de indexed.

      I made another sales page and used specific product names and and got to the #3 and #6 spot using these links then two days ago poof i was slapped back to page 9.

      I had been back linking since June and making full profiles using only one or two links per site and writing a 200 word or longer bio

      Coincidence who knows for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    They did work very well until this happened, can't blame the links for sure but got a gut feeling!
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    my article still is indxed and my rankings are still pretty good in the google caffeine sandbox Google

    Not sure what that all means, anyone have an idea?
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    • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
      Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

      my article still is indxed and my rankings are still pretty good in the google caffeine sandbox Google

      Not sure what that all means, anyone have an idea?
      Not sure, but keep in mind that despite the www address google caffeine is not the sandbox as that term is used in IM. It just allows you to play around with the new Google search engine before it is fully released.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThackerAgency
    I've used them for several months without pinging or backlinking and have seen results. It is more powerful if you use fewer links in your profile (one or two at most). It might not get you to number one, but it sure can be a springboard. I focus on insurance keywords which are some of the most difficult (because of the industry's deep pockets) on the net.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Probably the best testimonial Angela can get for her backlinks is by Googling "backlinks". I don't use them personally but I follow similar guidelines with my own linking campaigns and I have great success and am still yet to experience the sandbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Probably the best testimonial Angela can get for her backlinks is by Googling "backlinks". I don't use them personally but I follow similar guidelines with my own linking campaigns and I have great success and am still yet to experience the sandbox.
    take a closer look at her backlinks. you'll find there is more going on then just her packets at work. I doubt her packets alone would have achieved the same SE rank for that keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    I doubt she would give up all of her secrets for $5 a month!
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    Actually, I did use my packet links for the article. If you look at the links, you will find only these same sorts of links there; I haven't done any kind of "trick" or any of that for it. No link wheels. No three-way links. No link networks. No RSS feeds. None of that stuff...just High Page Rank links. And yes, I AM giving away "all my secrets" for $5 a month. If I weren't, how do you think I would come up with a packet of Page Rank 6 and above links EVERY month? Don't you think I'd keep the PR 8s and PR 9s and maybe even some of the PR 7s for myself only and have a "monthly packet" of PR 5 and PR 6 links?? The BEST sites I find, I share with my subscribers...UNLESS the site requires a comment, which unfortunately, I can no longer put into the packet, due to the abusive subscribers, who spam the heck out of those types of sites and ruin them for us all.

    It's fine to debate about the links themselves if you want to, but don't insinuate that I'm doing something tricky that I'm not sharing, as that is not in any way true.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    seeing one of my heavily linked articles disappear after a 5 months kinda scares me off from these types of links though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

      seeing one of my heavily linked articles disappear after a 5 months kinda scares me off from these types of links though.

      Captivereef that could be a number of things that have little or nothing to do with the links themselves. Were any removed? However I will say this. As in ANY kind of backlinking program you need to mix things up. Profile link packages are meant to be an addition to your SEO efforts not the entire SEO effort.

      I suppose the day may come when Google finds an algorythym that can detect an unusual presence of profile links but if you have other links you will still be fine.

      I will disagree with some other backlink list sellers and say that I recommend NOT using the same anchor text in all your backlinks. I've seen evidence and a study (which I will have to find again) that overdoing it with the same anchor text keywords can have negative consequences since its not natural that everyone linking back to you will link back the exact same way.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    that article was an experiment, another i have is still ranking but is mixed up quite a bit with comments, links and other things.
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    • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
      Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

      I just had an article that was written in August and backlinked with nothing but these links de indexed.

      I made another sales page and used specific product names and and got to the #3 and #6 spot using these links then two days ago poof i was slapped back to page 9.

      I had been back linking since June and making full profiles using only one or two links per site and writing a 200 word or longer bio

      Coincidence who knows for sure.
      Just wait for few more days, I'm sure it will be back! If I were you, I don't care, just continue to build more backlinks.

      At the same time, for whatever reasons, DON'T modify your article in anyway! Just do backlinks...

      Some people might freak out and start optimizing their content, that is a big NO NO!! Google will black-list your page and it will be "sandbox" for a long long time...

      Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

      my article still is indxed and my rankings are still pretty good in the google caffeine sandbox Google

      Not sure what that all means, anyone have an idea?
      That's why I'm saying... stay tuned and do more links

      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Captivereef that could be a number of things that have little or nothing to do with the links themselves. Were any removed? However I will say this. As in ANY kind of backlinking program you need to mix things up. Profile link packages are meant to be an addition to your SEO efforts not the entire SEO effort.

      I suppose the day may come when Google finds an algorythym that can detect an unusual presence of profile links but if you have other links you will still be fine.

      I will disagree with some other backlink list sellers and say that I recommend NOT using the same anchor text in all your backlinks. I've seen evidence and a study (which I will have to find again) that overdoing it with the same anchor text keywords can have negative consequences since its not natural that everyone linking back to you will link back the exact same way.
      I think Google detecting spam with few techniques here:

      1. Link velocity - The links gaining and losing speed, how many links you gain everyday and how much you lost! If losing more than gaining, you are in trouble!

      2. Link diversity - Do you have links from different domains, IPs and platform? All in the same platform will trigger some kind of alert...

      You can do a lot of backlinks per day, just keep it consistent, don't spike the link number high up today and zero tomorrow!

      If you keep these in your mind, your site / page can stay healthy and not getting filtered!
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      • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
        Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post


        Some people might freak out and start optimizing their content, that is a big NO NO!! Google will black-list your page and it will be "sandbox" for a long long time...

        Why is that ? Can you pls explain a bit more ?

        thanks !
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    If you look at the links, you will find only these same sorts of links there; I haven't done any kind of "trick" or any of that for it.
    I'm not accusing you of 'tricks' but you do have a lot more going on with your backlinks then simple n/a profile links.

    But in all fairness... the backlinks you've built up for your sites are great work. Which is why you rank as well as you do. It's a solid balance of filler profile backlinks, blog commenting and personal web 2.0 sites.

    If I'm not mistaken, the backlinks you have pointing towards your sites resemble more of what was found in your earlier packets but due to various reasons you've dropped some of those methods.

    But... the methods you've dropped are also the ones I think may have been the most valuable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      I'm not accusing you of 'tricks' but you do have a lot more going on with your backlinks then simple n/a profile links.

      But in all fairness... the backlinks you've built up for your sites are great work. Which is why you rank as well as you do. It's a solid balance of filler profile backlinks, blog commenting and personal web 2.0 sites.

      If I'm not mistaken, the backlinks you have pointing towards your sites resemble more of what was found in your earlier packets but due to various reasons you've dropped some of those methods.

      But... the methods you've dropped are also the ones I think may have been the most valuable.
      If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.
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      • Profile picture of the author HCLee
        It's just as well that these sites (that need commenting on) were discontinued. Most of the time I just didn't like the topics enough to really want to comment anything, so I skipped them most of the time.

        Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

        If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.
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    • angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

      I have seen it happen a few times.

      Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Edge88
        Originally Posted by webpromoterservice View Post

        angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

        I have seen it happen a few times.

        Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.

        Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)
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        • Profile picture of the author mrizos
          Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

          Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)
          Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

          I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.
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          • Profile picture of the author Edge88
            Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

            Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)
            Originally Posted by mrizos View Post

            Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

            I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.
            I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.[/QUOTE]

            So I'm guessing just getting the profile indexed still doesn't guarantee the backlinks on it will be picked up.

            Anyone has any idea whether that's the case or do we jut have to wait a little bit?? mrizos above me says it's been 2 months, with 1000 profiles indexed, why aren't they showing as backlinks?

            Thanks for any replies
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by mrizos View Post

            Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

            I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.
            Just because you don't see them in the tools you use doesn't mean that google isn't seeing them. Keep that in mind. these things take time and most all the tools out there will never show you all your links.
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          • Profile picture of the author happyhill
            Originally Posted by mrizos View Post

            Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

            I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.


            hope can get help with your answer, as I work on the profile link but the ranking doesnt see improve, I just realized that when I check back the profile backlink, many of them are not indexed...

            Just talk about Sept backlinks, it has already 2 months but many of them are not indexed...
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            • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
              Originally Posted by webpromoterservice View Post

              angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

              I have seen it happen a few times.

              Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.
              Very true, that shouldn't stop anyone from building more links, you just need volume to counter this kind of problems !




              Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

              Why is that ? Can you pls explain a bit more ?

              thanks !
              If during Google dance period, you can try to optimize your on page factor for that keyword, make it bold or add more keywords (keyword stuffing) to your content... Guarantee get into trouble, your article will dropped longer than usual!

              When Google dance, I either continue to build more links or just move on and do other more productive stuff than waiting.
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            • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
              Originally Posted by happyhill View Post

              hope can get help with your answer, as I work on the profile link but the ranking doesnt see improve, I just realized that when I check back the profile backlink, many of them are not indexed...

              Just talk about Sept backlinks, it has already 2 months but many of them are not indexed...
              Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

              Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

              Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

              You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

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              • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
                Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

                Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

                Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

                You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

                Steve
                Hey Steve, how are you doing? Great suggestion by the way!

                May be you will build in this feature in your SEO Link Dominator? I would love to see that

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                • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                  Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                  Hey Steve, how are you doing? Great suggestion by the way!

                  May be you will build in this feature in your SEO Link Dominator? I would love to see that

                  Kok Choon
                  Hi Kok,

                  I'm good... quite busy with the 64 bit testing but it's going very well.

                  On the rss feed creation, is already built into 'seo link dominator' (it auto creates the rss channels and profile items off your saved profile links) except for the submissions to the rss directories.. .. but this will be included in the software within one of the next updates.. should will be available within i'd say the next 3-4 weeks.

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              • Profile picture of the author happyhill
                Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

                Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

                Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

                You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

                Steve

                Hi Steve, nice hearing you and thank you so much for your suggestion.

                I am now working on it, but I get stuck during create a new rss channel, one of the required field name: Channel Link, what should I suppose to do on this...? can I url it to my page in squidoo.com ?

                at the add new item section, I just put any title and summary, as simple as I can, is this part important, will it cause any issue...?

                finally, after publish my feed, can I directly submit my feed by skip the step to adding a xml button to my page?
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                • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
                  Originally Posted by happyhill View Post

                  Hi Steve, nice hearing you and thank you so much for your suggestion.

                  I am now working on it, but I get stuck during create a new rss channel, one of the required field name: Channel Link, what should I suppose to do on this...? can I url it to my page in squidoo.com ?

                  at the add new item section, I just put any title and summary, as simple as I can, is this part important, will it cause any issue...?

                  finally, after publish my feed, can I directly submit my feed by skip the step to adding a xml button to my page?
                  Or may be a simpler approach, but you won't benefit extra backlinks from RSS - Ping it!

                  Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!

                  That way your profile links should be able to make it into the index.

                  BTW, how many links did you build? I am very surprise to see no profile index! Because some profile would get pickup by the search engine just in time before it submerge!
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                  • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
                    Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                    Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!
                    Do you know of a free alternative to what you're describing?
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                    • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
                      Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

                      Do you know of a free alternative to what you're describing?
                      Pingler dot com. I do it to all my profiles after making backlinks and they get indexed and show up within a few weeks. It's free.
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                      • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
                        I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

                        I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

                        For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.
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                        • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
                          Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

                          I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

                          I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

                          For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.
                          Ahh, uh no help here, sorry. I just ping after I make each one, but I type and click fast... all those years playing computer games helped.

                          If you're going to copy and paste onto a list, why not just copy and paste it into pingler, or whichever, and do it right then and there? Sometimes I have multiple tabs open, it's pretty fast. Unless your connection is slow, that might make a difference. I'm just curious if there's another reason.
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                        • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
                          Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

                          I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

                          I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

                          For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.
                          I found and use this: Mass Blog Pinger from Syndk8 with XMLRPC Goodness.
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                  • Profile picture of the author happyhill
                    Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                    Or may be a simpler approach, but you won't benefit extra backlinks from RSS - Ping it!

                    Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!

                    That way your profile links should be able to make it into the index.

                    BTW, how many links did you build? I am very surprise to see no profile index! Because some profile would get pickup by the search engine just in time before it submerge!

                    Hi Kok Choon, thank you so much for your advise.
                    did you mean I should use ping instead just submit my rss?
                    let say for another way, without create rss, can I use the ping to ping directly to my profile url, will it work to get the profile indexed?

                    I started build my backlink since month of May, I order profile link from Paul and Angela, I am sure many links I have did from there, but for Aug and Sept untill recent many of them not get indexed, even some of them are from May too... those profile that are not indexed are healthy profile and they are dofollow links.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                      Originally Posted by happyhill View Post

                      Hi Kok Choon, thank you so much for your advise.
                      did you mean I should use ping instead just submit my rss?
                      let say for another way, without create rss, can I use the ping to ping directly to my profile url, will it work to get the profile indexed?

                      I started build my backlink since month of May, I order profile link from Paul and Angela, I am sure many links I have did from there, but for Aug and Sept untill recent many of them not get indexed, even some of them are from May too... those profile that are not indexed are healthy profile and they are dofollow links.
                      As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

                      the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                        Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                        the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

                        Steve
                        I lean in this direction also. Haven't finishd testing your software but like what I see so far. My links will be easily loaded to your software by the end of this week. Just wanted to say publicly - Keep up the good work,
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                        • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          I lean in this direction also. Haven't finishd testing your software but like what I see so far. My links will be easily loaded to your software by the end of this week. Just wanted to say publicly - Keep up the good work,
                          Thanks Mike,

                          I adding in your link package 'backlink bulldog' into the software and released the updates last night.

                          Regards

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                      • Profile picture of the author happyhill
                        Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                        As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

                        the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

                        Steve

                        Hi Steve, I do submission the rss feed as your advise, at the same time, I also ping the rss feed as what Kok mentioned as well, do you notice normally how long time they will get index?
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                        • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                          Originally Posted by happyhill View Post

                          Hi Steve, I do submission the rss feed as your advise, at the same time, I also ping the rss feed as what Kok mentioned as well, do you notice normally how long time they will get index?
                          you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

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                          • Profile picture of the author happyhill
                            Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                            you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

                            Steve

                            Hi Steve, thanks for your reply.

                            By the way, about the seo link nominator, for forum profile, whether we can use the software for putting link only, not register. Or can we use it by alternative turn on and off at the register function?
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                            • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                              Originally Posted by happyhill View Post

                              Hi Steve, thanks for your reply.

                              By the way, about the seo link nominator, for forum profile, whether we can use the software for putting link only, not register. Or can we use it by alternative turn on and off at the register function?
                              Hi HappyHill,

                              hmm... you would still need to import the site itself but you could do that either manually or via a text csv file import. You could then select your new site list then go via the 'create signup' screen but instead of signing up you could just login instead then drop the links and set as 'link created' in the software.

                              Regards

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                              • Profile picture of the author happyhill
                                Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                                Hi HappyHill,

                                hmm... you would still need to import the site itself but you could do that either manually or via a text csv file import. You could then select your new site list then go via the 'create signup' screen but instead of signing up you could just login instead then drop the links and set as 'link created' in the software.

                                Regards

                                Steve

                                Hi Steve, I have downloaded the trial version, will come back to you if any. Thank you
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                          • Profile picture of the author jhess56
                            Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                            you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

                            Steve
                            you mean bookmark the rss feed?
                            hmm...never thought to bookmark an rss feed vs a regular url
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              • Profile picture of the author jhess56
                i think i am in the right spot.but if we have a whole mess of profile url's is there a quick way to bulk upload them or something vs entering them all in manually one by one?

                Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

                Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

                Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

                You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

                Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.
    I know and it's unfortunate that it had to be that way. The abuse of a few ruined the resource for all.
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    • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
      Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      I know and it's unfortunate that it had to be that way. The abuse of a few ruined the resource for all.
      Just too bad many people will use it wrongly and spam the *** out of all good resources...

      That's why I don't like half boil spammer... The Pro would "spam" better
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    • Profile picture of the author aakayb
      I subscribed to these links on 24 October, so have the October and November links. Will take time to see the results but will test them with 1 of my Uk focused sites that is set up and is not being promoted with any other method. In fact it hasn't even been indexed yet! Will let you know how it gets on.
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  • Profile picture of the author matts5150
    Does anyone know if profile links pass a manual inspection from google? I've recently applied for a reinclusion request after getting bumped to page 40 in August. Google replied and said they had reviewed my site however still no love, on google for my main keyword I'm on page 35 and on sandbox I'm on page 1. Other than ezine articles, profile linking was all I was doing with only 1 link per profile. Site is 2 years old and we sell physical products, Any ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    You aren't excluded from the index though, you said yourself you are on page 35. Google just doesn't think your site is the best one for the respective keyword.
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    yes these links still effective i use a package and it was very beneficial
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    I just worry about the links getting indexed - it will take a while. I've been trying to get my web 2.0 properties indexed by using pinging sites - still not working.

    You gotta get links indexed first - then carry on...
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    I've recently applied for a reinclusion request after getting bumped to page 40 in August.
    Bad idea.

    You haven't been banned. You are on page 40 because your site SEO is weak.

    I would never apply for reinclusion unless my site was absolutely banned and could not be found and then only if the site was completely white hat.

    A manual review of your site is going to show that you are link spamming and I wouldn't expect google to care or do much about it.

    I've had sites drop down to the 900's and then bounce back to the top 10 a month later. It's all a part of the game.
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    all my sites rankings came back as well, so i guess i got scared for nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    If you are going the SEO route, it a marathon not a sprint.
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    • Profile picture of the author sherry_d
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      If you are going the SEO route, it a marathon not a sprint.
      Totally Agree
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  • Profile picture of the author JRG
    I see that the backlinks are mostly used by members for articles. Are many people using them for main sites? Like a company site etc...

    Also is anyone worried that Google may eventually ban this and ban all the sites you linked this way?

    Signed up for the packets a while ago and need to catch up on them but always been a concern for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
      Originally Posted by JR Griggs View Post

      Also is anyone worried that Google may eventually ban this and ban all the sites you linked this way?
      How would Google be able to tell the difference between a link on a profile created for ones own site, and a link on a profile created because you really really love some other website? Both appear organic.

      At the most they might just devalue those links to nothing, not ban all sites with links from profiles. I could be wrong and I can't assume to speak for G.
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      • Profile picture of the author fir3d
        Originally Posted by tjcocker View Post

        How would Google be able to tell the difference between a link on a profile created for ones own site, and a link on a profile created because you really really love some other website? Both appear organic.

        At the most they might just devalue those links to nothing, not ban all sites with links from profiles. I could be wrong and I can't assume to speak for G.
        you are right, google can never ban all sites with links from profiles otherwise i would setup profiles with links to wikipedia all over them
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    you are right, google can never ban all sites with links from profiles otherwise i would setup profiles with links to wikipedia all over them
    True,

    but what if they changed their algorithm so that pages that were ranked PR n/a had no link value... that would eliminate profile spam and not effect legitimate linking.

    That would be a very simple solution that google could implement in a day. They are aware of what is going on and I'm sure they are looking into solutions.

    For now, profile backlinking does work but if that is your only backlinking strategy your building a house of cards.
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    • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      True,

      but what if they changed their algorithm so that pages that were ranked PR n/a had no link value... that would eliminate profile spam and not effect legitimate linking.

      That would be a very simple solution that google could implement in a day. They are aware of what is going on and I'm sure they are looking into solutions.

      For now, profile backlinking does work but if that is your only backlinking strategy your building a house of cards.
      Indeed. A shaky house of cards built on top of another house of cards. Adsense, Google, and IM are all one big uncontrollable monster that has candy for us if we know how to take it. Scary. I peed myself a little.

      Care to share your backlinking strategies beyond articles, directories, blog commmenting, and profile links? I'd appreciate some tips!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Care to share your backlinking strategies beyond articles, directories, blog commmenting, and profile links? I'd appreciate some tips!
    Sure.

    First off, I'm not an article writer. I build websites and I target medium to high traffic keywords.

    I don't use articles and rarely use directories.

    *I use your articles to fluff out my support sites (more on those later)

    blogs, profiles and forums. I use all of these through different methods to build backlinks. I follow some of what is mentioned here at WF and I have a few other tricks and methods I use as well.

    I've given away some of my tricks in various posts here and some things I am keeping to myself so they aren't exploited and lose their value.

    The biggest difference between what I do and what many others don't do is building my own support sites. I've put a lot of time into developing my own little network of sites that I can use for backlinking.

    These site generally have little to no traffic, aren't set up to sell anything and typically look very innocent at first glance... just some some average joe schmoes blog. These site age, I throw backlinks at them from time to time, they generate low PR and exist only to support my money sites as backlink sources.

    With the number of free hosting and blog options available you can build a network of hundreds of these sites at no cost other than time spent.

    Having a little army of PR 1 -2 sites can give a nice little boost to any project you are working on and they are 100% white hat spam free backlinks that you'll never lose and nobody can mess with.

    This same technique is used by many top IMers, SEO's and corporations to boost up their own sites. Major companies aren't spamming blogs and profiles for backlinks, they buy 100 or 1,000 .com's and set up little sites just for the purpose of driving backlinks and link juice to their own sites. A $1,000 or $10,000 marketing investment isn't much if you stand to gain $10,000 or $100,000 from it.

    Now, somebody is going to cry that it's too much work, they don't have the time or it's not worth the effort. That's fine, each to their own. I just don't feel that relying on other sites and spamming as your only means of backlinks is a very smart, safe or wise long-term strategy. Sure, it works great now, I'll drop more profile links later tonight along with a few blog and forum comments as well, but my sites don't rely on these methods alone.

    Diversity, that more or less sums it all up

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    • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      Sure.

      With the number of free hosting and blog options available you can build a network of hundreds of these sites at no cost other than time spent.

      Having a little army of PR 1 -2 sites can give a nice little boost to any project you are working on and they are 100% white hat spam free backlinks that you'll never lose and nobody can mess with.
      You think long term! Scale this up and you get tons of controllable backlinks, that's how advance SEO marketer like you would prefer !

      May be you can try auto-blogging, use automated linking and content to build up the network, and get links anytime, on demand!

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      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      *this was my mini WSO.. that'll be $10 please.
      How about a 'thanks'? :p

      Thanks, that gives me some things to think about. I suppose if it doesn't look like a blog farm it would work great. Kind of a fine line if someone doesn't know what they're doing.
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    These links work very well. I have many sites that hold spots on the 1st page just from these sort of links.
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      Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

      As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

      the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

      Steve
      Hi Steve, you are constantly improving your software, that's great! We all can benefit from the automation, and I believe you'll have more to come !


      Originally Posted by michaelpedro View Post

      I will share my experience before 2 weeks I built backlinks for one of my sites using angela's backlinks. As of today no changes in SERPS and no one link is indexed when i look in yahoo site explorer. I created 30 backlinks. I don't say that it is not worth probably just need some more time for google to crawl my backlinks.
      2 weeks is too early to tell, please allow at least 3 weeks for testing. You need to track your ranking, not yahoo explorer. I find it more accurate to check with my keyword ranking, if it raise, the backlinks is working !
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      • Profile picture of the author dagama
        Hi,

        I am a very new user of Angela's links, and I am not sure I quite understand what I am reading here. Could anyone with 5 minutes to spare confirm that I should:

        1 Create the link.
        2 Click on my profile page, grab that page address, and then submit it to something like pingler.com
        3 I am also not clear on how the RSS issue works; without wishing to waste anyone's time, could someone point me to a page that will explain what I should do to create a list of links and use them as a feed.

        No doubt this is all very elementary, but I would appreciate some help.

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        • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
          Originally Posted by dagama View Post

          Hi,

          I am a very new user of Angela's links, and I am not sure I quite understand what I am reading here. Could anyone with 5 minutes to spare confirm that I should:

          1 Create the link.
          2 Click on my profile page, grab that page address, and then submit it to something like pingler.com
          3 I am also not clear on how the RSS issue works; without wishing to waste anyone's time, could someone point me to a page that will explain what I should do to create a list of links and use them as a feed.

          No doubt this is all very elementary, but I would appreciate some help.

          Darrell
          Hi darrell,

          1) create your link
          2) goto the public viewable profile page with your link on and copy the url to 'notepad'
          3) either -> go somewhere like pingler and ping the url
          4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

          hope this helps..

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          • Profile picture of the author desireeaib
            Mystic:

            That's it! What may I pinging? What URL? My sites or the one where my Profile is newly created?

            That is one thing I havne't understood and hasn't been clear exactly what's being pinged.

            I know newbie/noob just not getting it!

            Good thing is I can go back and redo some as I didn't do MY real name and such. So no biggie with that!!


            Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

            Hi darrell,

            1) create your link
            2) goto the public viewable profile page with your link on and copy the url to 'notepad'
            3) either -> go somewhere like pingler and ping the url
            4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

            hope this helps..

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          • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
            Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

            4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

            hope this helps..

            steve
            Hey,

            Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

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            • Profile picture of the author thmgoodw
              Originally Posted by ahefner33 View Post

              Hey,

              Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

              Adam
              If you use TrafficMystic's software it automates it for you. If you were to use Icerocket on your own you would have to do it manually. Note if you are using backlinks outside of TrafficeMystic's software, I just use the bulk html 2 rss converter at html2rss.com
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              • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
                Originally Posted by thmgoodw View Post

                If you use TrafficMystic's software it automates it for you. If you were to use Icerocket on your own you would have to do it manually. Note if you are using backlinks outside of TrafficeMystic's software, I just use the bulk html 2 rss converter at html2rss.com
                Awesome. Thanks. Been looking for something to do these functions.
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            • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
              Originally Posted by ahefner33 View Post

              Hey,

              Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

              Adam
              I use my own software to create the rss feeds off the saved profile links semi automated.. 1/2 clicks and they auto generate..

              it's the rss submissions that not yet automated (this will be added). Thanks for the PM...

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    Steve's SEO Link dominator is a big help in link building, plus he almost supported all WSO's link packet, this is great piece of software!
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    I have used the backlinks for four of my websites now and I am still finding them extremely useful.
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    Some links might not show at all, but they sure work - because my page ranking rises, so I know that!
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    No one try SENuke? Free to use as well !
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    • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      No one try SENuke? Free to use as well !
      For just 2 weeks right?
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      • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
        Originally Posted by ahefner33 View Post

        For just 2 weeks right?
        Nope, even you don't register at all, you still can use the pinger for free!! No one try it? I'm still using it even though I stopped SENuke !
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        • Profile picture of the author Duma
          Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

          Nope, even you don't register at all, you still can use the pinger for free!! No one try it? I'm still using it even though I stopped SENuke !
          Hi kkchoon,

          Why did you stop SENuke? I have been lurking here for a while trying to determine the most efficient way to get started and I was just about to start with SENuke. Is it a bad idea?

          Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
            Originally Posted by Duma View Post

            Hi kkchoon,

            Why did you stop SENuke? I have been lurking here for a while trying to determine the most efficient way to get started and I was just about to start with SENuke. Is it a bad idea?

            Thanks!
            I will resume when I need them !

            I use outsource lately, SENuke just too much work for me, I like things being done by somebody...

            If you have your own team, or you are alone, SENuke will certainly save you a lot of time!
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      Now You Can Completely and Utterly

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    simple copy and past from SEnuke site.

    the previous poster... who appears to have been banned since the post is no longer there was asking about SEnuke.

    I was going to post a link to the site, then I thought... if I can use google to find it, so can he.

    So I just decided to be a jackass and copy and past the headline from the SEnuke page.

    I wonder if I can make that my signature?

    *edit* yes... I can. sorta.
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    I'm running into tons of problems lately with SENuke. I hope they fix them in their next update.
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  • Profile picture of the author TampaRay
    I for one think you are doing us all a tremendous service Angela. And for $5 if you only get a couple of links from each packet to stick you are still way in the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author sps2009
    I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?
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    • Profile picture of the author jazbo
      If you are not pinging or otherwise leading the googlebot to your created link pages, then the chances it will be digging around deep in a profile site and find them is not good.

      Bearing in mind the wastage rate for the popular link packets is high now due to saturation, and the fact most of your links have not been found by the bots, I reckon your actual indexed backlinks number less than 20 for three months work.

      You need to find other ways to build links.

      Originally Posted by sps2009 View Post

      I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

        If you are not pinging or otherwise leading the googlebot to your created link pages, then the chances it will be digging around deep in a profile site and find them is not good.
        True for the most part but it depends on what links you are using and how you found them. I didn't ping about 30 of the sites I submitted to for an experiment i did 3 weeks ago and 20+ have been crawled. I don't get that for all my sites but only the ones I call Virgin Backlinks. Used a more time consuming process to filter those. So you are right you have to use different techniques to find backlinks. I don't think people understand the downside of easily found backlinks. They are also easy to lose. Case in point alot of backlinks I heard were in a package used Kickapps. Kickapps decided to make their next software release no folllow and poof - thousands of backlinks disappeared.

        Bearing in mind the wastage rate for the popular link packets is high now due to saturation
        Great point. I don't think many people understand that the more links outgoing from a site the lower the value of each link. Again its time consuming to find ones that aren't widely used and it tempting to just throw up a whole lot of easy to find ones up but there is a payoff to not having links that are widely used as both you and I came to realize.
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        • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
          Originally Posted by turbohips View Post

          I'm running into tons of problems lately with SENuke. I hope they fix them in their next update.
          Yes, they do have problems from time to time, and the fixes just take too long... one thing good is, they constantly adding more tools.


          Originally Posted by sps2009 View Post

          I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?
          Usually, you don't see result because of 2 things:

          1. You didn't track your keyword ranking, if they rises, it work!
          2. You didn't pick the right keyword.

          Some keyword need more links, and if your site is rising, you know the packet is working, but it might not reach page 1 in a long time - if your keyword is too competitive and you don't have enough links to it!

          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          I don't think people understand the downside of easily found backlinks. They are also easy to lose. Case in point alot of backlinks I heard were in a package used Kickapps. Kickapps decided to make their next software release no folllow and poof - thousands of backlinks disappeared.
          Yes, very true. When you depend all links from a single platform, that is not wise. I believe not all kickapps will be nofollow, they should have an option to let the webmaster decide whether they want it follow..

          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Great point. I don't think many people understand that the more links outgoing from a site the lower the value of each link. Again its time consuming to find ones that aren't widely used and it tempting to just throw up a whole lot of easy to find ones up but there is a payoff to not having links that are widely used as both you and I came to realize.
          This might be true, I've yet tested it, but it seems like the more outgoing links and less incoming links, your site PR will drop...
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post


            Yes, very true. When you depend all links from a single platform, that is not wise. I believe not all kickapps will be nofollow, they should have an option to let the webmaster decide whether they want it follow..
            I stand corrected but whats the default setting? Thats probably what most kickapps users leave it at. Anyway you are ahead of the game KKchoon. Mixing links is a wise move.



            This might be true, I've yet tested it, but it seems like the more outgoing links and less incoming links, your site PR will drop...
            Yeah. Pretty much how it works.
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            • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              I stand corrected but whats the default setting? Thats probably what most kickapps users leave it at. Anyway you are ahead of the game KKchoon. Mixing links is a wise move.
              Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

              I found it still very effective with these methods:

              1. Blog or forum comment
              2. Bookmarking
              3. Articles
              4. Press Release
              5. Video?
              6. Podcast
              7. Ebook directories
              8. Software directories
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

                I found it still very effective with these methods:

                1. Blog or forum comment
                2. Bookmarking
                3. Articles
                4. Press Release
                5. Video?
                6. Podcast
                7. Ebook directories
                8. Software directories

                Blogging, Articles, social network profiles, videos and forums. Here and there a directory but I don't really mess around too much in those as they have the reputation of link farms (not all)

                Funny we should be talking about this because there is an offer on the Interent I just saw where the seller is selling a whole pile of links based on ONE software platform. I consider that a setup for a great waste of time. Hours and hours of time (plus the cost of the package) and then if that company changes the software settings the links all disappear overnight. Plus honestly how stupid do people think Google is? Even if you can do that now its only a matter of time before google has the ability to monitor the links and see that incredibly they all come from the same kind of site.
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              • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
                Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

                I found it still very effective with these methods:

                1. Blog or forum comment
                2. Bookmarking
                3. Articles
                4. Press Release
                5. Video?
                6. Podcast
                7. Ebook directories
                8. Software directories
                Hi kkchoon,

                One area that is very under rated and extremely power full for backlinks in your list is the 'software directories'. You get some awesome links from them.. You can also use the free PAD utilities to create your PAD files for submission.

                Not done much in the pod casting side.. do you find that you get much traffic and sales from pod casts?

                I know it was an area that stompernet talked about.. taking an article and turning it into a video and pod cast and promoting it on your blog then the pod cast directories and video sites..

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                • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  Funny we should be talking about this because there is an offer on the Interent I just saw where the seller is selling a whole pile of links based on ONE software platform. I consider that a setup for a great waste of time. Hours and hours of time (plus the cost of the package) and then if that company changes the software settings the links all disappear overnight. Plus honestly how stupid do people think Google is? Even if you can do that now its only a matter of time before google has the ability to monitor the links and see that incredibly they all come from the same kind of site.
                  Yes, I agree this is disadvantage when it comes to link building. As long as you don't put all your links in one platform, that should be ok.

                  They are still great resources for building links, just might not be long term when spammer starts to ruin everything...

                  Originally Posted by TrafficMystic View Post

                  Hi kkchoon,

                  Not done much in the pod casting side.. do you find that you get much traffic and sales from pod casts?

                  I know it was an area that stompernet talked about.. taking an article and turning it into a video and pod cast and promoting it on your blog then the pod cast directories and video sites..

                  Steve
                  I have yet do mass pad cast distribution, and I do it for links. Trying to find some good submission software, do you happen to know any?

                  For software directories, I use promosoft, need to renew the license every year, but you can submit to over 800+ directories
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                • Profile picture of the author kweblife1
                  Yes. I was just looking into the whole software directory thing since I read about it recently in Chris Rempel's affiliate marketing book. He mentions about using Promosoft for software distribution.

                  I can build basic websites with dreamweaver, but I'm certainly not a html code pro.
                  So I'm wondering what is the simpliest way to get quality software which you don't have to build yourself. There are so many PLR software offers out there and on this forum as well, but how reliable are they really?
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                  • Profile picture of the author sps2009
                    Just an update...

                    I just finished the december packet that angela sent me. Out of the 32 sites, 14 of the sites had already changed and I was not able to post a back link on those sites. The month is not over, so I am sure that more of the moderators will get tired of all the back link traffic, and shut down the recent accounts. I have not even started on Paul's package yet, so I wonder how productive it will be. In the past 4 months I have not had one site indexed, from what I can tell with my google webmaster tool. However, I have just started pinging and submitting the back links to RSS feeders. I am hopeful this will help me boost my webpage.
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  • Profile picture of the author veeco
    I think this kind of method will be useless in the future as it easy to track by google engineer. The pattern are same and peoples doing it in massive way.

    it kind like years ago when people spam meta keywords and descriptions, use same text color as background, etc...

    These method also like a threat for people who work hard to get high PR... as they will get "scammed"

    just my opinion...
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    • Profile picture of the author sps2009
      Last night after I posted here, I decided to check my analytics report from google. I found this connected to my index page and according to the report, it had 7 visits, which has me concerned. The last thing I need is for potential clients to think that I am a "spammer":

      /?src=ThisPersonSpamsWebsitesButTheJokesOnThemAsThi sIsANoFollowLink

      Obviously, this has to do with the back links.

      Has anyone else ever had this issue? Is this a big deal? If so, what do I need to do to get rid of it? Is there anyway I can find where it came from? This is something new to me, just thought I'd share with you guys to see what you think...
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      Agreed!

      Most any spamming techniques will only enjoy short term success. Long-term, just build a valuable product/service, get the word out (yes the best ways to get the word out cost money) and the BEST links will come naturally.



      Originally Posted by veeco View Post

      I think this kind of method will be useless in the future as it easy to track by google engineer. The pattern are same and peoples doing it in massive way.

      it kind like years ago when people spam meta keywords and descriptions, use same text color as background, etc...

      These method also like a threat for people who work hard to get high PR... as they will get "scammed"

      just my opinion...
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  • Profile picture of the author veeco
    could it be an automated anti script for such 'create profile' mothod... ??
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    The last thing I need is for potential clients to think that I am a "spammer":
    then you shouldn't be spamming

    if you are a legit business then you should look into pyramid linking (there was a recent post about it) so you can keep your business site clean of suspect backlinks and still spam every forum and blog on the planet.
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    • Profile picture of the author sps2009
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      then you shouldn't be spamming

      if you are a legit business then you should look into pyramid linking (there was a recent post about it) so you can keep your business site clean of suspect backlinks and still spam every forum and blog on the planet.
      We are a legitimate business. Unfortunately, they don't teach you about SEO marketing when your getting your accounting degree. I'd like to know more about this pyramid linking. Could someone point me to the post that is referred to here?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by sps2009 View Post

        We are a legitimate business. Unfortunately, they don't teach you about SEO marketing when your getting your accounting degree. I'd like to know more about this pyramid linking. Could someone point me to the post that is referred to here?
        I didn't read the thread that he was referring to, but i'm assuming it was something along the lines of:

        Your "clean" site is point at the top of the pyramid. This is leve 1.

        You then have a group of do-follow sites, web 2.0 pages, articles, etc., pointing to your clean site. All of these sites in level 2 would themselves not be classified as spammy. Good content, not stepping on owner's toes, etc.

        Then, you have level 3, which is where all of the action is. You basically create a large volume of backlinks and point them to your level 2 sites. It is OK if a decent percentage of these may be considered spammy by some. But, you link all of these level 3 sites to your level 2 sites. This will increase the authority of all of your level 2 sites, and a good portion of that link juice will pass along to your main/clean (level 1) site.

        In other words, the link juice can pass through mutliple link chains, but the spam smell will not.

        So, you have a pyramid of links, with the level 3 links making up the bulk of the links at the bottom of the pyramid.
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        • Profile picture of the author sps2009
          Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

          I didn't read the thread that he was referring to, but i'm assuming it was something along the lines of:

          Your "clean" site is point at the top of the pyramid. This is leve 1.

          You then have a group of do-follow sites, web 2.0 pages, articles, etc., pointing to your clean site. All of these sites in level 2 would themselves not be classified as spammy. Good content, not stepping on owner's toes, etc.

          Then, you have level 3, which is where all of the action is. You basically create a large volume of backlinks and point them to your level 2 sites. It is OK if a decent percentage of these may be considered spammy by some. But, you link all of these level 3 sites to your level 2 sites. This will increase the authority of all of your level 2 sites, and a good portion of that link juice will pass along to your main/clean (level 1) site.

          In other words, the link juice can pass through mutliple link chains, but the spam smell will not.

          So, you have a pyramid of links, with the level 3 links making up the bulk of the links at the bottom of the pyramid.


          Tom,
          Thank you for this. I am basically missing the middle part of my pyramid. This was some great info, and I'll start to put it into practice. I am really beginning to like this forum. A person can learn a lot here...
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  • Profile picture of the author AvidAZ
    I think the links do okay for me, but i have to ping them or bookmark them to get them visible.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    I do think that pinging the links makes sense. Really though Angela/Paul's lists are no longer a slam dunk for improving SEO. They are simply another tool to be used, for $13 a month total between the two I think they are well worth it.

    If you use their links a month or two after they come out you'll have better success-you know after the site owner gets upset and takes down the 5k profiles that were created in the matter of two days.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    I find that a lot of profile pages do not get indexed on their own. You need to get them indexed in order for the backlinks to count. You just need to find a couple of good bookmarking sites or other methods in which to get the pages indexed.

    I ran a test just before the weekend. Only a handful from a long list of urls were indexed. I bookmarked some of these and today when I ran the app again, those bookmarked profiles were indexed.

    Just make sure you don't buid them and then forget about them otherwise you may be wasting your time or money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Root
    Or if you don't want to bookmark, ping or submit profile pages to anywhere, you can always do something on the target page that "leaves a mark". Like for example reply to somebody's post in the forums or something similar. That will get your profile indexed also.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    A link pyramid is basically the same thing I outlined in my last ebook, its just creating a "firewall" that takes that crap links hit and passes on any goodness.
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    I think I need to go to Angela packages, packages, and for months I have some sites that may do well to promote these packages offer - especially anything by jumping on my site has PR PR update.
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  • Profile picture of the author agnelrollins194
    Much of what Angela is a brilliant ... Some spam. Unfortunately, when it comes to attacking a lot of people buy their own packages have no idea how to create a connection that can not be denied. So, these people are not successful.
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    Seems some great resources are there! I would like to get some! BUt it seems Angela has quitted this!
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