Google updates were more frequent in the past as compared to now? Why?

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Penguin, Humming bird and many other updates from Google were frequent, say 3-4 years back. Why not now? Is Google now just busy promoting its own business and earning through Google Ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I have no idea WTF you are talking about. They update the algorithm constantly. The implemented around 1,000 changes last year.
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    • Profile picture of the author webcontent
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I have no idea WTF you are talking about. They update the algorithm constantly. The implemented around 1,000 changes last year.
      I responded to other Warrior as well. When I am naming the updates deliberately Penguin, Panda and Hummingbird, I wish to know big updates like these that changed SEO world. I don't know WTF you are talking about 1000 updates?? Can you name 20 like I mentioned above???
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by webcontent View Post

        I responded to other Warrior as well. When I am naming the updates deliberately Penguin, Panda and Hummingbird, I wish to know big updates like these that changed SEO world. I don't know WTF you are talking about 1000 updates?? Can you name 20 like I mentioned above???

        https://moz.com/blog/how-often-does-...-its-algorithm

        In 2018, Google reported over 3,000 improvements to search, more than 8 times the number of updates in 2009 -- less than a decade ago -- and an average of almost 9 per day. How have algorithm updates evolved over the past decade, and how can we possibly keep tabs on all of them? Should we even try?
        Every update doesn't get a name.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          Here's the rub, Mike. If it doesn't get a name, it has no value, affects nothing, Google is just wasting its time, doncha know this yet?


          Serious SEO people know that, so they only pay attention to updates that gets a name and, therefore, they rank higher forever an ever, amen!


          You seem to think that ranking a few hundred sites means you know something about something. And yet you didn't even know that no-name updates are just Google's favorite way of wasting time.


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          • Profile picture of the author webcontent
            Originally Posted by DABK View Post

            Here's the rub, Mike. If it doesn't get a name, it has no value, affects nothing, Google is just wasting its time, doncha know this yet?


            Serious SEO people know that, so they only pay attention to updates that gets a name and, therefore, they rank higher forever an ever, amen!


            You seem to think that ranking a few hundred sites means you know something about something. And yet you didn't even know that no-name updates are just Google's favorite way of wasting time.


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            Don't know what to say!
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        • Profile picture of the author webcontent
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Yes, so that was my question... I wanted to know why such updates are not happening.. where you said.. WTF.. this that... These are algorithm changes not major updates for which I was talking about. Moreover, it is a forum, so people are free to ask and clear their doubts? If you have better knowledge share or else let others tell.. What's the point of telling WTF I know and this and that? If you have good knowledge I respect that and that's why I am asking from you and other warriors to increase my knowledge..
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by webcontent View Post

            Yes, so that was my question... I wanted to know why such updates are not happening.. where you said.. WTF.. this that... These are algorithm changes not major updates for which I was talking about. Moreover, it is a forum, so people are free to ask and clear their doubts? If you have better knowledge share or else let others tell.. What's the point of telling WTF I know and this and that? If you have good knowledge I respect that and that's why I am asking from you and other warriors to increase my knowledge..
            Fine, you want major updates, here:

            https://moz.com/google-algorithm-change

            Major updates have not slowed down at all. That's why I said WTF to your question because it made zero sense.
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    Originally Posted by webcontent View Post

    Penguin, Humming bird and many other updates from Google were frequent, say 3-4 years back. Why not now? Is Google now just busy promoting its own business and earning through Google Ads?

    Either you have no information or you are just another spammer who is increasing post count.
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    • Profile picture of the author webcontent
      Originally Posted by expmrb View Post

      Either you have no information or you are just another spammer who is increasing post count.
      There are hell lot of other sources to increase posts. You can see its a web content agency, so there's no limit of sources. Moreover, out of 1000 algorithms can you please name 20 algorithms that took place last year??? And are they so big like Humming Bird or Penguin????
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      • Profile picture of the author expmrb
        Originally Posted by webcontent View Post

        There are hell lot of other sources to increase posts. You can see its a web content agency, so there's no limit of sources. Moreover, out of 1000 algorithms can you please name 20 algorithms that took place last year??? And are they so big like Humming Bird or Penguin????

        Follow the SearchEngineRountable blog you will know!!
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  • Profile picture of the author nshep
    Google updates its algorithm every day, often several times per day. However, most of these are small tweaks that most people don't notice.
    Yet, we also still see bigger changes. For example, last year there was the E-A-T or "Medic" update. This year, in June was the "Site Diversity" update and it seems like Google is rolling out another broader update as we speak.
    So, while these updates might not be making as many waves as, say, mobilegeddon (at least not outside of SEO circles), they are still happening. It might be that there just isn't as much public awareness for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author webcontent
      Originally Posted by nshep View Post

      Google updates its algorithm every day, often several times per day. However, most of these are small tweaks that most people don't notice.
      Yet, we also still see bigger changes. For example, last year there was the E-A-T or "Medic" update. This year, in June was the "Site Diversity" update and it seems like Google is rolling out another broader update as we speak.
      So, while these updates might not be making as many waves as, say, mobilegeddon (at least not outside of SEO circles), they are still happening. It might be that there just isn't as much public awareness for them.
      that's good piece of information.
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  • Profile picture of the author qservicesinc
    Google has become now more smarter. He is using his artificial intelligence in the more frequent way. As there are so many fake websites that are available on the google as the result the customer get wrong information sometime. So to reduce the probability of getting the wrong info, Google is analyzing the websites more frequently and more updates they are launching so as to improve their visibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
    Originally Posted by webcontent View Post

    Penguin, Humming bird and many other updates from Google were frequent, say 3-4 years back. Why not now? Is Google now just busy promoting its own business and earning through Google Ads?
    Something for everyone to think about:
    Google had stop being Search Engine years ago and now it's money printing press.

    Sometimes I wonder if G's SERP is on a level as it was 15 or even 10 years ago,
    when you would find stuff, you were looking for in top 50, compare to now, where
    top 50 loaded with totally useless, sometimes unrelated sites that hardly have
    anything to do with subjects of your searches.

    I'm always offering web directories as an example to prove my point.



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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

      Something for everyone to think about:
      Google had stop being Search Engine years ago and now it's money printing press.

      Sometimes I wonder if G's SERP is on a level as it was 15 or even 10 years ago,
      when you would find stuff, you were looking for in top 50, compare to now, where
      top 50 loaded with totally useless, sometimes unrelated sites that hardly have
      anything to do with subjects of your searches.

      I'm always offering web directories as an example to prove my point.



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      I don't see anything wrong with the search "web directories".
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      • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I don't see anything wrong with the search "web directories".
        Sure there is nothing wrong with search itself but... how many directories you could find
        in top 10 or in top 50 that are meeting "web directory" definition?



        I'm sure you're old enough to remember when in 2007 directories like BOTW, AMRAY, Aviva,
        Abilogic, Jayde, Pegasus, Gimpsy, BusyBits, Amfibi, SoMuch etc. would be on page #1
        even after G. penalized web directories by manually dropping PRs from 6, 7 to PR 2, 3 or 4.

        Now you tell me if this is not intentional actions by G. because I don't believe that "SEO Pros"
        have anything to do with garbage G. has vomited all over top 50 SERP



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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

          Sure there is nothing wrong with search itself but... how many directories you could find
          in top 10 or in top 50 that are meeting "web directory" definition?



          I'm sure you're old enough to remember when in 2007 directories like BOTW, AMRAY, Aviva,
          Abilogic, Jayde, Pegasus, Gimpsy, BusyBits, Amfibi, SoMuch etc. would be on page #1
          even after G. penalized web directories by manually dropping PRs from 6, 7 to PR 2, 3 or 4.

          Now you tell me if this is not intentional actions by G. because I don't believe that "SEO Pros"
          have anything to do with garbage G. has vomited all over top 50 SERP



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          And how do you know people really wanted those directories when they did that search?

          It looks to me like Google identified that the search intent was different and that people were more often looking for information about directories, so that is what they are serving.
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          • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            And how do you know people really wanted those directories when they did that search?
            Elementary my dear Watson, because they are asking for "web directories" and not
            about directories list or what is web directory or relevant in 2018 directories.

            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            It looks to me like Google identified that the search intent was different and that people were more often looking for information about directories, so that is what they are serving.
            Are you telling me that you are excited about SEO garbage that G. is offering have
            place in top 10, 20 or 50 instead of 'web directories' because G. knows what you really
            don't look for: "web directories"? Very interesting concept Dr. Watson.

            It looks like because G. is know what people "really" want to find instead of offering
            'banana bread' recipe G. is vomiting "information" about companies that grove bananas
            or where people can buy ready baked 'banana bread'.

            I don't think this is how real SE suppose to generate results and specially when
            you are working overtime to SEO your clients sites.



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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

              Elementary my dear Watson, because they are asking for "web directories" and not
              about directories list or what is web directory or relevant in 2018 directories.



              Are you telling me that you are excited about SEO garbage that G. is offering have
              place in top 10, 20 or 50 instead of 'web directories' because G. knows what you really
              don't look for: "web directories"? Very interesting concept Dr. Watson.

              It looks like because G. is know what people "really" want to find instead of offering
              'banana bread' recipe G. is vomiting "information" about companies that grove bananas
              or where people can buy ready baked 'banana bread'.

              I don't think this is how real SE suppose to generate results and specially when
              you are working overtime to SEO your clients sites.



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              Google has a lot more data than you about what people want when they do searches.

              If I did a search for web directories, I would be perfectly fine with those results. There are lists of directories that people have collated together.

              If I did a more specific search, I would want more specific results. For example, "web directories for lawyers". For that search I would want to see either lists of web directories put together for lawyers or legal directories. That's what I get.

              Web directories is a bad example to talk about because you cannot see past your own bias.
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              • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                Google has a lot more data than you about what people want when they do searches.
                I never said that it doesn't have every piece of crap it can find.
                Proof. Almost impossible to find something what you want at least
                you would go directly to page #11 and up.

                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                If I did a search for web directories, I would be perfectly fine with those results.
                LOL, are you one of those who are buying groceries based on how they are packaged?

                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                There are lists of directories that people have collated together.
                You mean lists that still offer Yahoo, DMOZ and others dead on arrival directories?

                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                If I did a more specific search, I would want more specific results. For example, "web directories for lawyers".
                Well, in this case you would be much more better to search for 'Lawyers listing or list'
                using specific geographic location

                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                Web directories is a bad example to talk about because you cannot see past your own bias.
                Bias? Why would I?
                We had AMRAY WD where we want to, on top, for years til now. Since G. went berserk
                and manually removed directories from SERP repeating 2007 directories massacre no one
                is safe any-longer as long as G. will be fighting war on SEOs while creating it own SEO system.



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        • Profile picture of the author webcontent
          Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

          Sure there is nothing wrong with search itself but... how many directories you could find
          in top 10 or in top 50 that are meeting "web directory" definition?



          I'm sure you're old enough to remember when in 2007 directories like BOTW, AMRAY, Aviva,
          Abilogic, Jayde, Pegasus, Gimpsy, BusyBits, Amfibi, SoMuch etc. would be on page #1
          even after G. penalized web directories by manually dropping PRs from 6, 7 to PR 2, 3 or 4.

          Now you tell me if this is not intentional actions by G. because I don't believe that "SEO Pros"
          have anything to do with garbage G. has vomited all over top 50 SERP



          fastreplies
          Great point!! Actually you are right! Right now we are just seeing the stuff that is not even relevant...
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  • Profile picture of the author Medon
    I believe the updates are continuing to stream in the way they did a few years ago. May be you are not checking.
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    • Profile picture of the author webcontent
      Originally Posted by Medon View Post

      I believe the updates are continuing to stream in the way they did a few years ago. May be you are not checking.
      Yes, we already have a long discussion on this. Please refer to above threads. We are checking it, its just now there are more of algorithm changes instead of big updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author seocorporation
    I guess you are not keeping a track of Google's algorithmic changes. A simple Google search could have yielded that the changes are more frequent. Though It is a common knowledge that Google keeps on introducing new changes almost on a daily basis but even if you are talking about big changes then also the changes are more frequent. A big update was on June and the other on is still rolling out which started on 28th of September.

    If you want you can find a page on Moz where you can track these changes. let me know if you need it's link.
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