by DABK
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About two weeks ago, I started getting offers for negative SEO. They have packages from $79 to $500. They propose to create the worst backloinks to any of my competitors who do not play fair and destroy them.


Have I missed a memo about negative SEO or...


Do people really buy?
#negative #offers #seo
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Some people will do anything for money - and some other people will pay them to do it. Both would be people I don't care much for.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      I am asking because I stopped seeing these a couple of years ago, and I see them again.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Some people will do anything for money - and some other people will pay them to do it. Both would be people I don't care much for.
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      • Profile picture of the author nahidseo10
        Then place the links yourself to the competitors of the sites that are stupid enough to pay you money for something that likely will never work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ann87
    Beginners, naive people, or those who are poorly versed in the topic will always exist. If there is supply, then there is demand.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    I guess if you've been an idiot blackhat SEO for many years and have a ton of websites that have all been turned to crap by Google, that's one way to try to re-monetize them - turn them into bad sites to get links from. Then place the links yourself to the competitors of the sites that are stupid enough to pay you money for something that likely will never work.

    Then again, chances are, they don't provide a single bad link to any of your competitors and run away with your money, laughing ... criminals cheating other criminals.
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  • Profile picture of the author yeyvasil
    Oh I think some people buy, maybe beginners or just someone who don't care about others. However it's often scam, so
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I see them again

    I think some of these 'things' are cyclic....they are trash offers and the word is spread so they go away....a couple years later they are advertised again for a whole new group of 'marketers'.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well i hope you dont think to buy this kind of packages .karma never sleep and what you do to others you receive back
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      No.

      First, this is not black hat SEO; it's just Stoopid SEO.

      Second, if it worked, you'd have to know who did it, and that can be hidden.

      Originally Posted by Usman boota View Post

      While black hat SEO is not illegal, it does violate webmaster guidelines set out by search engines. In other words, it's still against the rules. This means if you engage in black hat SEO, you must be willing to get hit with a nasty penalty as punishment.
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  • Profile picture of the author qservicesinc
    I think you should focus on quality SEO works rather than negative Seo for your competitors.
    You must work on social media channels, off-page SEO, and influence marketing.
    Apart from this, you have to work on blogs, articles, and guest posting sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Ok, and?

      I mean, I was not asking about the usefulness or lack thereof if negative SEO.

      So, what are your thoughts on my actual question?

      Originally Posted by qservicesinc View Post

      I think you should focus on quality SEO works rather than negative Seo for your competitors.
      You must work on social media channels, off-page SEO, and influence marketing.
      Apart from this, you have to work on blogs, articles, and guest posting sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author malzeri83
    To answer this question I need to ask - do you believe in DA MOZ rating? If yes, it works and by. For example I had 60 shit websites backlinks like ftykseu.xyz with spam rating 80/90. Yes, they effect the spam rating of our website as well. If war against competitors could be why cannot be wars to kick the website of the competitor off?
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Because there is no such thing as negative SEO.

      You get a bunch of spam links, Google ignores them.

      If you paid for them, that's the negative, you lost money.

      If you did not, there is no negative.

      Whether you believe in MOZ's DA rating is irrelevant, always has be.

      PS Your answer does not even begin to address my post. Perhaps, the question to ask is: What is the original post about?


      Originally Posted by malzeri83 View Post

      To answer this question I need to ask - do you believe in DA MOZ rating? If yes, it works and by. For example I had 60 shit websites backlinks like ftykseu.xyz with spam rating 80/90. Yes, they effect the spam rating of our website as well. If war against competitors could be why cannot be wars to kick the website of the competitor off?
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      • Profile picture of the author malzeri83
        Your question - "do people really buy?" The second question you didn't ask but more interesting in discussion - is it really exist and could make real effect.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          Google answered that question a long time ago: it does not exist.


          Google just ignores bad links.


          Originally Posted by malzeri83 View Post

          Your question - "do people really buy?" The second question you didn't ask but more interesting in discussion - is it really exist and could make real effect.
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          • Profile picture of the author malzeri83
            Who told to you that bad links ignored? Sorry but nobody knows about Google, even Google assosiated people trying to tell "I think that..." so it is THEIR private opinion. Show me the official Google release, I will read with interest.
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            • Profile picture of the author DABK
              https://www.google.com and negative SEO



              Originally Posted by malzeri83 View Post

              Who told to you that bad links ignored? Sorry but nobody knows about Google, even Google assosiated people trying to tell "I think that..." so it is THEIR private opinion. Show me the official Google release, I will read with interest.
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    • Profile picture of the author malzeri83
      Uf, business could be quite aggressive.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        No, it cannot happen as it does not exist.


        People sell negative SEO, it seems, but it does not exist: Google just ignores such links. For a good reason: crappy site would be able to make it to the top by doing negative SEO but, since it's crappy, people do not benefit and, if it happens often, stop using Google. And, then, Google don't make money, and Google loves making money.



        Originally Posted by rashidshahriarsany View Post

        Negative SEO can happen when someone buys backlinks from low quality sites. These links are usually spams and unnatural looking. If these links point to your site then search engines may view them as a bad signal and blacklist your site.
        People who try to do that think of it as a shortcut. At times it works, for a while. Maybe long enough for them to get their act together.


        That's my guess.



        Originally Posted by sageshark View Post

        Why invest (or waste) money on destroying others? If you have 5 competitors and you REALLY destroy them, then after some time some new competitors will arise. How many will you destroy?

        Infact there is nothing like destroying others. If you build spammy backlinks for others and if they are smart enough, they will just disavow all of them and your efforts will be destroyed.

        Why invest in negative SEO when there is a lot of work to be done for your own website? We never have enough budget for our SEO work so we should use our money wisely and constructive work.
        Yes, malzeri83, and, so what? Buying negative SEO is the wrong way to be aggressive, anyway, it does not produce any results besides getting the seller of negative SEO some money.


        Originally Posted by malzeri83 View Post

        Uf, business could be quite aggressive.
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  • Originally Posted by DABK View Post

    About two weeks ago, I started getting offers for negative SEO. They have packages from $79 to $500. They propose to create the worst backloinks to any of my competitors who do not play fair and destroy them.


    Have I missed a memo about negative SEO or...


    Do people really buy?
    Yes, some people buy this because they think it's going to give them quick results. These are usually from people who don't understand how SEO works. they get frustrated when they hear how much time and work it takes to do SEO properly
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  • Profile picture of the author Old Molases
    This is just nonsense. Dont fall for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author nahidseo10
    tnx for share

    This is generally considered "black hat SEO" for its malevolent nature. An example of a negative SEO service offer in a Reddit thread
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    DABK - The pushback you are getting from some people about negative SEO not working is really the answer to your original question.

    Apparently, there are still enough people who believe it works (even here on Warrior Forum, where they should know better) so yes, people apparently are still wasting their money on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Seems so. In post 22 above, I gave a link to a Google search that comes up with a lot of people quoting Matt Cutts of Google saying they ignore the type of links negative SEO gets.


      What surprises me the most is that you can so easily check stuff these days, yet so many do not do it.


      And thinking? Why not do it? I mean, how is it not clear that Google cannot not ignore negative SEO? If it took it into account, you could end up with a lot of crappy results on page one (just because they bought 5000000 piss-poor backlinks to the better competitors). And that would get people not to trust Google, and that would get Google to lose money. Is it not clear that Google wants the money?



      Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

      DABK - The pushback you are getting from some people about negative SEO not working is really the answer to your original question.

      Apparently, there are still enough people who believe it works (even here on Warrior Forum, where they should know better) so yes, people apparently are still wasting their money on it.
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      • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        What surprises me the most is that you can so easily check stuff these days, yet so many do not do it.
        What surprises me is that you don't realize how lazy most people are.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          I am very lazy myself. That's why I bothered to look this up. (I want to do as little as possible... Chasing/ Doing things that cannot work takes you the opposite way.)


          I assumed most people are logical enough to not want to do things that do not /cannot produce the results they're after.


          Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

          What surprises me is that you don't realize how lazy most people are.
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  • Profile picture of the author amitthakre26
    It's just fake people , who don't know SEO or what SEO procedures are, will go for this kind of offer. They can do anything for money.. Please be aware of such kinds of people.
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