How long did KC say it should take for them to show?

It can takes time for search engine to see baclinks. In seo game you can't get instant gratification.

we have done authority backlink building for many sites. even though the backlinks are not shown after one month also, many sites manage to get high rankings. This kind of link building works well for low competitive keywords

I would be interested to hear other peoples' views about how effective it is to place a link on a zero PR page within a domain which has high PR on its index page. (And how this works).

Robert

Hi Robert,

Nice to see you here !

I've tried many type of links, non work as powerful as High Domain PR profile type backlinks. You can read more information in Terry's experiment thread.

Do you ever wonder why articles host on EZA, blogger.com, Wordpress.com are easier to rank? As compared to your own site?

Do you ever wonder why Link Wheel work so well, and people would build links to it, instead of links to their own site?

Only one reason - Domain Authority.

Domain Authority give more weight in SEO, and your article will rank extremely well, as compared to low PR site.

If you still not convince, send me your keyword and site, if I say I can rank your keyword within a period of time, I can do it. Some people buy my product and expect it would rank on page 1 for "Weight Loss" - I must be honest here, my packet alone is not powerful enough!

I need to ask - did you see your keyword improved in ranking or just stay there? If your keyword ranking is rising, you just need more backlinks. If your page doesn't move a bit, that will be my product problem.

Angela and Paul backlinks, Steve's backlink Goldmine, Terry Kyle Blackbelt, TamilSEO backlinks or any kind of profile backlinks - Which has a direct PR when you created it?

NONE!

They all use the domain power!

Anyone had different opinion, please share...

Kok Choon

KChas a point, some webmasters take a lot of time to add links, may be an idea to email the webmaster of the site directly.

I know this is what you may not be looking for but 70 profiles aint that many unless you're trying to rank for some obscure term....you need a LOT more profile links and seo is about patience. I would say do the whole lot you have and wait and see...it could be week or months before you rank or years depending on the competetiveness of the keyword

Also you arent going to get an answer if profile links work or not. At least so far they dont barn you from google so why not just do it. I know you maybe feeling frustrated you have done 70 but boy or boy you've spend your $50 to buy that...dont just let those links rot and join the bandwagon of people who just buy and never use the product

Also dont worry too much about the stats, I was once upon a time in that league, it will simply distract you from your efforts and those backlinks showing is great but what you need are the ranking....I have a site showing nearly 20 000 backlinks but google decided for some reason to sandbox the site or whatever its called for the second time....and the site isnt ranking at all. So what I am saying is the number of backlinks showing really doesnt matter otherwise I would be trouncing my competitors most with less than 1000 backlinks....Keep at it

They work. It just takes time, as was stated above.

The problem with profile backlinks is they are on pages that aren't regularly spidered by the SE's so you have to take matters into your own hands to make sure the SE's find that page and see your backlinks. Which is why KKChoon Suggests ping-o-matic.

Other people go to even greater measures to make sure that these pages are found because if the page is not seen by a SE spider then you're never going to get credit for that link.

Search the archives, there are many many many posts all about this issue and making sure your backlinks are found.

Aside from that, it does take time. Unless you're a backlink jedi master it's going to take a while for all of the pieces to fall into place.

I can't speak for everyone but I have backlinks still sitting out in limbo. even after months they still refuse to play along.

Hey Robert,

Please remove the page that consists all links to profile, that is a very bad idea!

You gonna get into trouble - Google will think you try to spam them!

Google won't penalize you because other site link to you, but if you link back, they will know is you and might get you in trouble.

Fortunately your link from Warriorforum has error, please remove that page immediately, this will cost you another month in filter!

Kok Choon

By design, blog posts and comments are found faster and spidered more often which is why they will show up quickly.

You typically don't have to do any additional work to get these links to show up. I'll hit ping-o-matic after I leave a comment but it's not necessary.

Profiles are typically buried very deep on a site which is why they can often go unseen.

Think of it like roads leading home.

The SE's have to find a road that leads to your profile. Unless you've made posts on that forum or your nickname shows up on the newest members list, the only road an SE spider can take to reach your profile is by following the members link and then having to dig through the thousands of members on that site until they eventually reach your profile.

SE spiders aren't digging this deep very often.

That more or less sums it all up. Finding a means of getting the SE spiders pointed to the places you have links.

Hi Robert, Ping, bookmark or submit RSS will get the job done, don't worry too much.

If you spend too much time worrying the indexing part, it might stall you from progress, just keep going.

I usually ping my links, and they work! Even I can only find few of them in the search engine, my page still rise a lot!

If you want to be sure, try Socialbot or BMD to bookmark all your links. If I were you, just download SENuke, and use the free pinger! SENUke comes with a very comprehensive Pinging software, should be enough to get Google to your site.

Put more effort on building links, if you are like me, very tired of building links, outsource it - odesk.com is a great place!

Kok Choon

I didn't pay enough attention to this part

That would be bad. KKChoon is correct.

You want to find ways to drive SE bots to your profile pages but you don't want to do this in a circular or link wheel manner that includes your money site.

Try to keep your links moving in one direction. Never link back to your profiles from your money site.

An idea I'm starting to like is to use a site that is spidered often on it's own as a means to help direct SE bots to where I want them to go.

Terry Kyle often mentions Lady Gaga as a great site to use and I think it works very well for this purpose.

Create a blog on your Lady Gaga account. Add 20 links to 20 of your other backlink/profile sites. Your not linking to your money site at all here, just to your other backlinks.

Now, add a link to your Lady Gaga blog someplace else that is spidered often. A blog comment, a forum, doesn't matter as long as the bots hit that site often and follow the link.

The bots are going to hit your Lady Gaga blog and then be routed off to follow the 20 links you've placed there.

Give it about a week and your backlinks should be popping up.

Now, at this point you could write a new blog post with 20 more links or edit your existing blog and replace the old links with 20 new ones.

You can ramp this method up as much as you want. You don't need to limit yourself to using one site for this.

I agree.

Don't worry, KKChoon knows what he is doing and his links are legit.

Aside from that, Give Terry Kyles experiment post a read, it's long but packed full of some great stuff and ideas.

yeah, www.ladygaga.com

just sign up for an account and then you can create personal blogs on your account.

and wouldn't you know it... the site happens to be down now.

ok...

lets use snoop dee oh double gee then. thats snoopdogg.com, fo schnizzle my nizzle!

I'll make it easy for you Snoop Dogg : Profile : biscuitz82 here is some random persons profile. Funny, he has been spammed It wasn't me. Click on the post comments button and a login screen will pop-up. Create a new account.

For some reason, all of the account info has been removed from the main page so you have to leave a comment somewhere to get the link back to your profile page... maybe snoop was a bad example? Anyway, once you are on your profile page you can set up a personal blog.

There may be an easier way to do this... someplace on the site that has the login and account links but I didn't see it and I'm not interested enough to dig around the site to find it. Once I get my profile URL I add it to my list.

And while your at it. Sign up for both. Why? Because all of the information you add to one will be automatically added to the other. That's two sites for the price of one.

Oh yeah... to make sure your profile is seen go to the news and leave a unsuspicious comment on one of the more commented news posts - actually, we have already done this - . Don't leave any spammy links here or anything, you want to fly uner the radar and leave a link as a path back to your profile so all of the links you are adding in your blog are found.. do this as well as post a link to your blog in another busy place and your backlinks should be found.

If you want to spam the hell out of all of the news posts like everyone else does then create another account and go nuts. But this would be spamming and that is bad.

I owe you a beer, thanks.

Robert, great to hear some of your feedback using this xrumer alternative. That said, looking back at kkchoon's posts from 09' , I don't think he had nearly the experience with profile links as he does today. There were literally some questions about what exactly "xrumer was, and how is it effective."

No disrespect to him, I just don't think he nearly had as much knowledge as he does today. That said, as choon pointed out somewhat, it's not enough to mearly post your backlink and hope that the search engines index it.

It's really a two step process, first the easy part is creating the backlink (all be it time consuming) but honestly its the easiest part, because once you hit submit it's there. The second, harder part is getting that backlink indexed (I say harder because this is where you actually have to do some work) and the core of the whole system, if your backlinks are not indexed they are WORTHLESS.

Remember where these backlinks are appearing in the first page, they aren't on a content page where the search engines are constantly updated. There is no fresh content on the profile pages. So the best example I can give is this, pretend that your friend is lost somewhere in the Grand Canyon. You don't know where he is, and the Crand Canyon is VAST, you might get lucky and just happen opon him, but chances are he'll die before you get to him. Now lets explore the same situation, instead this time you have a map of his last known location, how likely are you to find him this time?

The same thing holds true with these profile links, backlink packets,ect. Unless you give the search engines a "map" (footprint directing them to your links), they chances are a large number of them won't get found or it will take many months for them to show up. So what is absolutely necessary and most people leave out of the equation, is you must provide links to your profile backlinks that the search engines will find and then subsequently spider.

Now some things you should do, obviously is run all the links through a pinger. Next create and RSS feed of your profile link location, and send that to a number of rss directories, and lastly if you still are having trouble you can bookmark your profile links. Now sometimes if I am trying to get backlinks to show up quickly I will do all of the steps, since they all can be automated.. But a lot of the time I will just ping the links and either bookmark them or submit them to a RSS feed.

Hi everyone, I have already read the entire thread and it looks pretty interesting. I have a question though. ( If Kok Choon could answer it too it would be great )


I will be honest in here, I used to be a black hatter but i'm trying to get out of the "dark side" using other techniques ( profile and article links ). black hat is good, but only for a short period of time :p.


I'm using senuke, scrapebox and market samurai. I have created more or less 2000 links to my money site using articles and profiles but to be honest, I haven't seen any improvement in the SERPS using this technique ( I've checked with MSamurai ), I only get to stay in the same position ( 7 and 14 ) for my 2 main keywords.


According to scrape box, around 1250 of my links are already indexed by google but they don't show up in market samurai ( Im using bookmarks, pinging, RSS and Backlink Index Express to get my links indexed ). I guess there's "no problem" since MSamurai checks backlinks from yahoo, not google.


My main problem here is this: Only the links that I used to see in MSamurai are the ones that helped me to rank well in google. Although my new links are already indexed by google, I don't see any improvements ( in fact, on my keywords fell from 12 to 14 in google SERPS ).


I'm trying profile linking manually before buying any "auto profile creator" . so I wanted to ask this question:


When google index a page with my backlink, is this backlink immediately taken as a link to my site?? , do I have to do something else??


... I really think it's pretty weird that MSamurai doesn't see any of those indexed backlinks, although "bookmark" links created in sites like propeller are found extremely fast and they do show up in MSamurai


I really hope anyone could answer my previous question, and sorry for the pretty long post :p

Mr Choon, I heard that using your software (nuclear link blaster) , you could be able to import other profile sites using iMacro, is this true??? (sorry to post this question here )

I don't use SENuke any more after I've developed this software. SENuke still great for ranking and mixing links, if you have enough budget, you can continue using it.

For the software, we have not tried Foreign language, I guess it depends on our software database. One way you can use this software -

First, use conventional article or SENuke to create articles with your foreign keyword anchor link, then blast bunch of profile links to those backlink articles, this will greatly boost your money site's ranking.

Please note that you can put any keywords for those "boost links", it doesn't have to be the same keyword... all you need is the link juice. Yes, I do think if you use relevant keywords would help, but not necessary.

Kok Choon

Hi Kok, I've signed up for your service, but I'm not sure if I received any report yet? How long does the first report take to get? Do you have an email address I can email you at? I can not PM at this time. I'd like your advice on my site and keywords, which approach I should take and if I need to upgrade my service with you.

Thank you.

If you like to contact me directly - kkchoon(at)cynics-services.com. Usually the backlink campaign takes 2 weeks to complete, please note that when you send in the report, you should have a conformation email auto-responded to you, confirming the receive. If you didn't get that message, please follow-up with me.

The software doesn't need proxy to run, but if you want to submit more than 1 profile a day, you need proxy service.

Kok Choon

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Considering getting this; does it really do everything automatically so I don't have to sit at the computer doing the profiles manually? Anyone getting great results with profiles?

Does it come with any type of profiles at all; or is it just the software?

NLB comes with 2,000 profile sites from PR1 to PR8, fully automated.

Thanks that is what I wanted to know.

Going to go ahead and purchase; I am tired of having to sit in front of my computer and taking forever to do profile links. I believe that this will be a great tool for my SEO arsenal.

Please log your ticket at our helpdesk Nuclear Link Blaster - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

You should be able to find the documentation on your desktop, if not please check:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Nuclear Link Blaster\Nuclear Link Blaster\docs
or
C:\Program Files\Nuclear Link Blaster\Nuclear Link Blaster\docs

Kok Choon

kkchoon,

Started read this thread and I am curious how many websites can I boost using your software? Sounds like a dumb question but thought I would ask. I have 15 sites currently.

Thanks,

Steve

Hi Steve,

There is no limit to how many websites you can boost, the software comes with 2,000 sites, just updated with the new packet, should have a good success rate!

Kok Choon

Hey KK, how difficult is it to remove sites that no longer work? Do you provide updates for this?

Also how long does it take to import a new site I find? Is there a way to batch this or do you have to add one by one (say I have 200) ?
What forum software is currently supported by NLB?

thanks!

Hi There,

We just finished 2 import user guides - How to Scrape Links and Import Into NLB & How to do Custom Recording for Angela & Paul Backlinks

These 2 guides should help our customers to leverage the power of NLB, and we recently added a compare and export active sites feature in the software, you can easily export active sites with a comparison to your generated report.

We currently support VB, SMF, IPB and EE, will Add Wordpress MU next month... Feel free to direct your question to my email or PM.

Kok Choon

Kok Choon,

I love all of your kind and best product to automate all the backlinks process. I am using your techniques of Maximizer & NLB.

I am new in NLB and not start yet to use it. But in my view - start with my experience of using profile links Angela Paul - with new post articles in EZA keyword medium competition then I do backlinks. What is the result? My EZA articles now place in page 1 Google.

Backlinks is the number game. I love articles submission & sindication (UAW) also with this best and easiet tool (NLB profile links). My learning steps now at backlinks indexing with 1) backlinks energizer or 2) backlinks index express.

Kok, need your advices all the backlinks from article submission will be index using these both tools? Thank Kok.

Regards,
Mozesteven

Hi Mozes,

Yes, I think Backlinks Energizer and BIE will do the job.

However, not all links will be indexed, some will remains un-index, not sure the reason, but you can try to bookmark or boost more links to those un-index sites. For me, I usually leave it alone.

Kok Choon

hi Kok Choon ,

I have some brand new sites. I always spin the description as well vary the anchor text. Is it wise to use indexing software to index hundreds/thousands of profile links at once? Will google catch smell some unsual is goung on?

Justin

The method of custom recording for Angela & Paul's backlinks- is this something thatmust be done manually or is automated. Also, will it work for importing other providers' backlink packages?

Hi Moruf,

To get out of sandbox, you must first check your Google Webmaster tool, make sure everything is OK, then check this:

1. Did you do any on page optimization during the backlink campaign that causes the sandbox?
2. Did you send tons of links to your new site and lost them over the next few days?

If the above is the reason why you are in sandbox, then stay away from these action.

Then continue to build a lot of domain / page PR4 and above backlinks to your site, this will increase your site's trust rank and about a month or two, you'll be back and rank higher, this has nothing to do with the software.

If you want more links to your site, then get this software.

Kok Choon

70 links is not a lot. Try 700, get them indexed through pining and linking to them via blog posts, then see how you are ranking.

Folks, the NLB software is well worth it if you are "into" building profile links. After using it one time, I'll never go back to manually building profile links again.

Now, with that said, you will need an indexing program to go along with it in order to get the full value of those links.

As was stated before BIE or BLE will do the job for you. Right now, I prefer BLE, as I really feel you can get going faster with indexing your links by using web 2.0 sites, but with the option to add your own wordpress sites and build them up as your own indexing network.

edited out - no longer applicable.

Search engine like google is normally takes updates when indexing and it will takes time to show up your backlinks or it has the results but not yet shown up by google.

The search engines are always working behinds the scenes to prevent automated backlinks tools, it should come as no surprise, if the tool stops working all of a sudden

Some people tends to think the tools are the problem, they never track what they are doing and never review their result, that's why any tools to them won't work.

Bookmarking, article submission, directory submission all still work rather well, so is profile links, you just have to learn the most important lesson here - how to cover your tracks.

do you have problem on indexing backlink ?

just take BIE or Backlink Energizer

Search it On Google !

I bought the professional edition 2 months ago to use for my SEO business and it has been a killer edition. Kok introduced a new ping scheduler that is working amazingly for indexing the links.

I have an extensive network of Backlink Energizer clusters that I use for indexing but I have been testing out just using the new Ping Scheduler without using BE and it's amazing how fast these are getting indexed.

I still add them to Backlink Energizer though to juice them up but even Backlink Energizer alone still leaves a lot of links unindexed. With the new ping scheduler what I'll usually do is ping all my links, then a week later I use Scrapebox to pull all the links that are not indexed in Google, then I run those again in the Ping Scheduler. I repeat this a couple times over a month. I have some very happy clients!

And remember, this is a very powerful tool to use to backlink your Web 2.0 props that also link to your money sites. It makes it easy to create multiple layers of links giving a natural viral backlinking effect that works like charm for climbing up the search engine rankings.

In the beginning the user manual was sparse but now they have beefed it up considerably and also have videos to make things really easy to learn. If you have Scrapebox and NLB you can do some serious damage out there.

Use Backlink Energizer to get them indexed. Otherwise they're worthless!

Great thread here guys -

To share a little that I've learned over the past three years and I've used automation, senuke, EVO II, some BH stuff too but here's the a really low cost combo that seems the work for me - get yourself a copy of Daniel Tans seo pressor -
SEOPressor Wordpress Plugin to get your onpage stuff done and really tight (here's a little bonus idea too - I pop into onto a wordpress blog with a draft post and then use that tool to craft articles to get articles structured really well) - it's a one time purchase and well worth the money considering you can use it on unlimited domains and then also get angelas backlink packet - quite simply the best $5 per month you'll ever spend!

And then - most importantly - be really focused on what keyword phrases you use and only chase those that have reasonable search volumes but less competition.

The free version of TrafficTravis is a great place to start too in terms of doing competition keyword analysis - Free SEO Software | The Best PPC & SEO Management Tool -Traffic Travis - it's a fantastic little piece of software and free is great!

Hope that helps - have fun!

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Profile link does work.