Andie

Scott,
Kudos to you for having the patience and taking the time to answer all of these questions from everyone!!
True warriorism

Andie

Teez

after some more keyword researching with the Google adword Tool as the new one is said to be more accurate

Ive found some ''click worthy'' niches i.e the ones that you know people are likely to click

However my issue is that I come against these issues (Note;2900 EMD search)
1.The Keyword can have good number of advertisers in Us and then not in the uk
2.The Keyword has no advertiser as in ''N/A'' but still has something like cost/click $2
3.The keyword has cost/click of £1 but advertisers of like only 3
4.Thekeyword in the Traffic Estimator tool states cost/click is low like £0.04


Anyone got any advice with this type of info i.e if they have experimented with these numbers or anything.

Thanks

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GMorgan808

Hi all, first post here after lurking for a while!

This is a very informative thread. I have had zero success with AdSense, but the Clickbump method seems to indicate that I've been going about it completely the wrong way. So, I started a new site yesterday, put up a 1,000 word article on the front page, and we'll see how it goes.

I wonder about the possibility of getting your AdSense account banned by doing this, though. I did some reading online about this method through people's blogs, and found one blog post in particular that mentioned a Clickbump-method site called 4 Slice Toaster. I went there to check it out, and found a Chitika ad. From what I've seen, Chitika sites are almost always sites that were banned from AdSense.

Isn't it possible that Google could see what is essentially a one-article website a "made for AdSense" site and shut it down?

kincontrol

Scott, even though you don't recommend using it with your theme, I believe you once mentioned some auto blogging software solutions. Can you list some please? I've got your theme and am putting up 3 different sites, but I also have one in mind that I'd like to try auto blogging for - not using your theme for that one mind you.

clickbump

Hi there Yic. One of my best performing sites is targeting an info keyword. As long as you can tie the service or info to ads, you can monetize the information.

clickbump

Hi KinControl. I've heard some good things about WPRobot and I've spoken to Thomas who is the developer on a few occasions and he's a first rate guy.

clickbump

Hi GMorgan808, since Google ranks individual "pages" and not sites, the number of pages are not really a relevant ranking or authenticity criteria to Google. What they are more concerned about is providing their search customers with quality results.

To that end, whether you have a single page or a thousand, the quality of each page needs to stand on its own merit and contain valuable content that rewards the search customer with an answer to their question. Since searchers are usually concerned with one specific question at a time, a site that provides a complete and concise (meaning, no superfluous content for the sake of content) answer to that question is usually going to find favor with both customers and the search provider.

You can provide answers to related questions, or different questions (with additional pages) but each page should ideally be optimized to answer a specific question for maximum results.

Keep that in mind when contructing your sites and you have nothing to worry about with respect to MFA issues.

clickbump

Thanks Andie. Really appreciate your kind words. Hope that you can take away something of value.

GMorgan808

I thought I'd follow up on my original question with an update letting ClickBump and any other interested parties know that I was rewarded with my first AdSense click ever within a day of setting up my first website after reading this thread. That's after about 3,500 AdSense impressions on all of my other sites and no clicks. So, needless to say, I was pretty stoked by that, and have since expanded that site to several pages and maybe around 7,000 words or so (so it's no longer a one-page site).

To be honest, the keyword phrase that I picked is probably not long-tail enough to really fulfill the requirements of this method, but I did enjoy first page status for a few days before getting bumped to the third page on G. I guess it's backlink building time now.

One thing that I ended up doing, during the time when the site was getting the temporary boost for being new, was making a note of the search terms that were resulting in SERP impressions, and adding more of that content to my site in the form of a FAQ page to catch more of the longer-tail searches. That's a strategy that I know I saw one this forum somewhere.

Now, that FAQ page is actually quite large -- about 1,800 words. Based on your reply to me, ClickBump, are you saying that it would be better to make a separate page for each question and answer?

What if that would result in some pages with under 100 words of content? Would I then have to add more content to those pages to avoid the dreaded MFA slap?

clickbump

This is just what I do. I want each of my pages to be tightly focused around a single topic.
I shoot for a word count of no less than 200. That's actually not that much if you are trying to describe a product, its merits, pros and cons in an objective manner.

The other thing to consider is that your page's title and snippet are the two things that the searcher sees when deciding which link to pursue. If your page is too general it will be more difficult to craft a page title and description that accurately answers the typical search query with good specificity.

newbie2011

Great discussion here. How can I block bulk clicks from some IPs. They can make me bane from google.

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clickbump

Google's algorithms are intelligent enough to track and prevent this themselves. They won't count the clicks if they are suspect.

I'm not aware of such a tool as you suggest, but you can set up an "allowed sites" listing to prevent your ad code from being scraped and used without your permission on a site you don't own.

clickbump

Then I'd throw down the $8 rent and go for it

andersanders

Clickbump, would you consider a hyphenated domain name if the exact .com, .org or .net were taken?

ericban

Scott,
Thanks for sorting out those few problems for me, being a newbie sometimes glitches like that are quite time consuming. I appreciate the response time and your patience.
Regards
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johnharvard

I'm with you on all of your points but let's say you're not a css savant or even very adept at creating web pages. Is there a tool or a method that you use or recommend?
Thanks

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johnharvard

Once you have everything in place how long do you need to wait before you see your site on page 1?

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clickbump

Assuming you are able to reach page 1, it could take anywhere from a few weeks to a couple of months depending on the competition and Google's whim.

yic17

hello. when u look at a competitor's backlinks .. do u want to check the Yahoo! Links? internal links? or external links?

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clickbump

Hi Yic17, when checking backlinks, look for backlinks to the page itself.

Doubleup

hey clickbump, quick question. I have your wordpress plugin, and whenever i upload an image to wordpress it automatically inserts it at the top of the page in the header area. Trouble is, i only want to insert the image in another location, but no matter what i do, it will always also be at the top. Is there a way to disable the feature so that it automatically inserts images at the top of the page? Thanks

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just figured it out, no worries

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georgelaurelle

Quality info mate... cheers

clickbump

No problem. Check your member's dashboard for the support link if you ever need assistance.

xenter

Hey Clickbump!

Excellent thread. I'm curious about link building. What is your best practice to get sites on first page? After you get them indexed by forum posting...

joetann

Hey, great thank you!

I started on my first site recently. I went for a hyphenated, exact match .org domain.

Here's some info on my keyword:

• 1,300 exact searches

• 3,600 broad searches

• 2,230,000 results in google

• PR of google top 10 as follows (from position 1-10): 4,3,4,5,3,2,3,5,6,2

• NONE of the sites have keyword in title, description, URL or head

• allintitle gives 196 results

• allinurl gives 70 results

• average CPC is £78 taken from GAKT (---how can this be true?)

Does this seem like something worth pursuing?

After 1 week I:

• only at position #130 in google.
• have 4 pages of content. average word count around 600/ page
• included two blocks of adsense
• custom background relevant to niche
• bookmarked to around 5 or 6 sites
• submitted to directory's for the purpose of backlinks
• I only have 3 of my pages indexed by google (1 of which is now deleted)
• need google to index my whole site!

How do I seem to be doing?

dwzemens

I am new to the forum and just finished reading *every single* post in this thread. I think I understand the theory, and am ready to implement it.

I am haunted by one nagging questions, however: How do you come up with a good keyword, top level domain niche name? I've racked my brain, tried thousands of combinations, and cannot find one that fits the criteria.

stoaf88

Not enough searches

PR of top 10 is too high

You are on the right track but you prolly wont get good results from this site

Also when backlinking use profile linking that is what works best for me.

Bookmarking is great for indexing

Live and learn

Now that you know the process repeat it with a keyword with a higher search count and competition with the top 10 having at least 3 pr- or 0

That is of course if the top 10 sites are relavant to the keyword.

dwzemens

You don't mention what the minimum CPC should be when choosing a website that fits the rest of your criteria. How do you factor this into your thinking?

SirAlex

I agree with stoaf88 on this.

As for CPC - there is no clear cut rule but lots use $1 as a minimum.

avg

Great Post! Thanks for the sharing with us...........

clickbump

Hi Dave, you might be overthinking it

Don't sweat the details too much. If you feel good about a niche and the EMD is available, go for it. As long as you are following my guidelines as best you can, and you have a system for getting things underway with a minimal amount of effort, then the cost of failure is very low...plus you will learn as you go along, what you need to do to excel.

Word hard and smart and the checks will come!

clickbump

There are zillions of possibilities. Here's an example of one I just came across that you might want to check out (and several of its derivatives):

"tow mirrors"

Do a search in GAKT on that term and go to work on all the spin off domain ideas you uncover.

Suggestion: Hurry!

SeoNumber9

you should always try to target a minimum of $1 per click, if the searches count is high, you can still go for it for less then $1

dwzemens

Thanks for the answers and tips, I look forward to more info on this thread. Good stuff.

Chris Kailong

This is my first post on Warriorforum.com. Great place! I am definitely going to be spending a lot of time here.

I've read through most of this thread and would really like to thank Scott and also everyone else who has been providing so much value here.

I've become somewhat addicted to niche research using the methods outlined by clickbump, and have bought a number of domains. It seems pretty difficult to find really juicy keywords with low competition that still have EMDs available, so some of the domains I've snatched are hyphenated (is this really bad?) or have slightly lower CPC or search volume. But I've also found a few good EMDs with decent # of searches, CPC and low comp. Looking forward to seeing results from those.

Anyway, I have a lot of questions, and endless thanks to anyone with the know-how, time, and kindness to answer all or any of them:

1.) I only have one site up so far. It's a wordpress site using Atahualpa template and Platinum SEO. Is a template such as this going to fare alright if I use a SEO plugin like Platinum? My site got indexed at page 30, and after one day on page 28 has been sliding downhill farther and farther into the reaches of SERP oblivion. Is this normal, and will it start moving up naturally without building backlinks? I plan to build backlinks, but am wondering what it's most likely to do if left alone.

2.) What do you do when you come across a niche with good search volume, high CPC and an EMD but with some competition, say mostly 2-4PR and maybe one or two PR 5-6 sites? It seems like a waste to just pass completely on these domains. How do you assess the amount of time it would take to get on the front SERP vs. potential value of the niche.

3.) Do you pass on niches where there are two or more products with the same name? E.g. if you want to build a blue widget site, but there is some other product that is also called a blue widget, do you dump and move on? It seems like many people may bounce when they find your site isn't for the kind of "blue widget" they are looking for. Is it still worth going for these?

4.) What about niches with tough 1st page competition but low phrase, allintitle, and allinurl? Worth going for?

5.) Just how important is PR when evaluating the 1st page? What if the 1st page is all PR 2+, but looking at the sites you see some with few backlinks and poor optimization? Can they still be bumped without too much effort, or will it take a lot of work?

6.) Do you often buy the other EMDs up for a niche so as to prevent competitors from entering?


I know, that's a lot of questions! I apologize if they have been answered earlier in this thread. I've read most of the thread, but maybe I missed these points somewhere. And thanks again for taking the time to help out a newb IM'er

Chris Kailong

Oh, btw, I nabbed this EMD from branching laterally away from "tow mirrors" to a side niche

1,600/1,600 GMS/Local, $1.10 CPC, 1st page PRs: 0,0,0,n/a,1,2,0,0,0,0

My jaw about dropped when I saw the competition, haha. CPC isn't too high, but it is exciting to me that I can probably get high up on the 1st page for this one. Thanks for the lead, Scott!

stoaf88

4.) What about niches with tough 1st page competition but low phrase, allintitle, and allinurl? Worth going for?

5.) Just how important is PR when evaluating the 1st page? What if the 1st page is all PR 2+, but looking at the sites you see some with few backlinks and poor optimization? Can they still be bumped without too much effort, or will it take a lot of work?

If the front pages sites are not optimized for the keyword then it does not matter what their PR is because you should be able to bump them with good optimization.

Once you build a few sites and do more research you will be able to spot these kind of keywords more easily when assessing the competition.

Chris Kailong

Thanks for the reply, stoaf88!

One more quick question... say I find an EMD with 1,600 GSM / 880 local and $3 CPC, three PR0 sites on 1st page, but there are few advertisers when I put the keyword into adwords preview tool. Still go for it?

stoaf88

I like to go straight to google for this. Search the keyword and see how many adwords ads are on the front page. If there are only like 2 then Id prolly pass. Also see how targetted they are.

You can also check spyfu.com and they list the number of advertisers. But google is of course more accurate.

Also dont believe the CPC numbers you see with the tools. In my experience you only get around 30-50% of what the CPC tools tell you.

Chris Kailong

Just launched my second site following this method! It was MUCH quicker this time (after refreshing myself on Wordpress and everything). Also, my first site is hanging out on SERP 4 now, and will hopefully keep moving

I have yet to make 1 cent from adsense, so I'm pretty excited to see how things progress.

btzr

hi guys,

first of all, i think clickbump's method is a great and well developed process that is easy to follow. i only have a few questions, hope you can help me a little with your experience. so it's definitely not worht it to go with .biz or .info or .us? I have found many good kwp-s but all the EMD are gone.

secondly, as for the kwp-s: clickbump says it's always product or service related and it's always a review. this means it's not worth it to go for i.e.: "notebook cases" as it's not "niche enough" therefore wouldn't result in good CTR? So it's better to go with "samsung notebook cases" as this is much more "niche"?

Any experince? Thanks in advance!

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btzr

sorry to post again, but i forgot another question: in the beginning of the thread I read that we should chase kw-s that are getting at least 2500 exact monthly local searches, but somewhere I read only 1000 exact monthly local searches. is this because the new GAKT? Is it worth to try to rank for a kw that only gets 1000 searches monthly?

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clickbump

Yes, the new GAKT numbers are lower than the previous version. This is mainly because they are only tallying searches that originate from google.com and not via "powered by google" search widgets and search partners.

btzr

Thanks Clickbump (anyway, how can I thank "properly" in the forum? Can't find that option). A last quick question: (let me just copy-paste it)

the article is always product or service related and it's always a review. this means it's not worth it to go for i.e.: "notebook cases" as it's not "niche enough" therefore wouldn't result in good CTR? So it's better to go with "samsung notebook cases" as this is much more "niche"? how do "how to" articles do? Can you describe your method in a few words? Thank you.

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clickbump

Should be last icon in bottom right corner of each post (except your own), next to the one you click to "quick reply" to a message.

The more targeted the niche, the higher your conversions will be. However, it will be with lower overall traffic. So the challenge is to find the "sweet spot" of traffic/conversions.

Products and services generally do better because they are "buying" oriented keywords. "How to" articles and more information oriented, but still can do well in the right context.

For example, if someone was shopping for a Flip ultra HD camera and you provided a well written, illustrated "how to" to demontrate how the camera can be attached to a special mount and attached to a car or helmet, then once they've read your how-to, they might be convinced the camera is right for them and thus they would be primed to purchase and click on your "Click here for the best price" Amazon affiliate link or one of the Google ads on your page (assuming you've included Adsense on the page).

In this example, if you've worked out a deal with the producer of the camera mount, you could also get referral fees on that item and provide a link there too. Just make sure if you are using referral links, to include an FTC compliant disclosure or link to a page with same. You can do this automatically if you are using JumpStart as discussed here > How to add an FTC disclaimer page with JumpStart for WordPress.

SGForce

Big thanks on the thread Scott. Read every post and I feel very informed!!!

I'm ready to get out there and start swinging at fastballs!!!

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SGForce

I'm interested in buying your templates, but I really don't want to use WP.

Do you have a pure html version for sale?

Also, can you pm me a working example. Not looking to steal your nitch idea, just want to look through it completely. I don't care how sucessful it is, just if it's a good example of how your sites look/work.

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clickbump

Hi SGForce, very sorry but my themes are only available for WordPress.

I originally did all my sites in pure html (actually xhtml/css) but once I began to use WordPress I've not looked back.

I can still do xhtml/css in WordPress and now have the entire WP ecosystem to draw from. I can't imagine doing a site any other way now.