Sorry But.. What's a Linkwheel?

by edmltw
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Pardon my newbie question, but nowadays its been linkwheel here, and linkwheel there. Has this got to do with building backlinks? Or is it a new jargon from a famous WSO that I missed out on?

Thanks for answering my newbie question in advance!

Ed
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  • Profile picture of the author kelvin yeo
    Originally Posted by edmltw View Post

    Pardon my newbie question, but nowadays its been linkwheel here, and linkwheel there. Has this got to do with building backlinks? Or is it a new jargon from a famous WSO that I missed out on?

    Thanks for answering my newbie question in advance!

    Ed
    Edmund:

    You can get a free pdf from the original creator of linkwheels here > Linkwheel Explained.

    PS Hows it going dude?
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    • Profile picture of the author edmltw
      Hey Kelvin!!

      Thanks for the link!!!

      Its been some time.. The previous client I had, not earning anything from him anymore.. Been trying to start on a simple project: "a eBook shop". The link is in my sig. I know there are rooms for improvement, just that I might need your keen eye to spot the areas for me

      Btw, is there going to be a meeting in Singapore on coming December? Looking forward to that gathering.. Haha..

      Catch up soon Kelv!

      Ed


      Originally Posted by kelvin yeo View Post

      Edmund:

      You can get a free pdf from the original creator of linkwheels here > Linkwheel Explained.

      PS Hows it going dude?
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  • Profile picture of the author edmltw
    Something like this?



    *I just roughly sketched it out*

    Ed

    Originally Posted by Johnathan View Post

    A linkwheel is the new terminology for \'juicing\' the link juice out of websites. Instead of simply having websites linking to each other (i.e., say 3-way links, each website has a link to each other website), a bunch of web 2.0 properties are used to \'juice\' a website that then links to a \'major\' website, and is duplicated several times. I.e., blogger -> website #1 squiddo lens -> website #1 article marketing -> website #1 etc, etc and then website #1 --> links to "main" promotional website (major website) A link wheel (more elaborate) consists of making all these mini websites with web 2.0 properties point to them, then point to a "main" website to bump the rankings in google.
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    • Profile picture of the author nomanbd
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      • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
        Hello fellow Singaporean!

        1) I am planning on releasing a 'Linkwheel 101' product which consists of 5 videos teaching and showing you what linkwheels are all about. If you are interested, I can actually give you a review copy (drop me a PM) for you to critique AND maybe learn a little more.

        2) Yes, Linkwheels are certainly less effective now. However, when used in the right ways (which I am not gonna reveal) they CAN still be potent.

        Besides, as I used in one of my marketing pitches for Linkwheel 101 - building linkwheels is definitely a good SEO Strategy rather than constant spamming of backlinks with Web Profile Pages only(that is also a required though)

        3) In your sketch, you drew out a complete wheel. Now yes, the Linkwheel model used to be like that..but now there is a new model. Nothing radical actually - you simply don't connect the wheel.

        So you can remove one of the links and link it to some other site OR link both back to the focus page.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Ok just throwing this out here because link wheel is a bit new to me but... Wouldent you be better off doing this...
    taking each page and linking it to all the other pages within your group?
    Example form the picture above take buzzle and link it to Focus, twitter, squidoo, hubpages, eza, goarticles, facebook and weebly?

    New to this so just wondering whats the benefit of only linking to the next in the wheel? Why not in sense matrix it?
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    First off, linkwheels are not "new". Second, Google is now aware of them and can spot them.
    Lets be honest here, a group of generated content sites, all linking to each other and then back to the first one as well, will be about as tough to spot as a piece of hay in a stack of needles....
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  • Profile picture of the author PRsubmits
    Lemonarian who originally created the linkwheel has recently posted on various sites that he is no longer too sure of the effectiveness of the linkwheel.

    While he says results are still positive it is no where near as effective as it used to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author debra
      Originally Posted by DebG View Post

      Lemonarian who originally created the linkwheel has recently posted on various sites that he is no longer too sure of the effectiveness of the linkwheel.

      While he says results are still positive it is no where near as effective as it used to be.
      He didn't create the linkwheel. He did come up with the new name for what was originally called a traffic node.

      Though his theroy was thought out somewhat, he left out the basic principles of creating the content for the demographic target.

      If you want your "link wheels" to function like they were meant too, you have to come to the conclusion that one site does not fit all.

      In otherwords...I wouldn't be using sites like linkedin to announce my product line of kites. I would create nodes(aka. link wheels) based from sites that had a passion for kites in order to draw in the attention of that market base.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Originally Posted by DebG View Post

      Lemonarian who originally created the linkwheel has recently posted on various sites that he is no longer too sure of the effectiveness of the linkwheel.

      While he says results are still positive it is no where near as effective as it used to be.
      Yeah, when you go to his Link, he is redirecting you to someone else's affiliate site. Nothing to do with Link wheel. That pretty much says it all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Crafty Blogger
        Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

        Yeah, when you go to his Link, he is redirecting you to someone else's affiliate site. Nothing to do with Link wheel. That pretty much says it all.
        I had no problem connecting to his site... it has an opt in page to get the report, but that has been there forever...
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        • Profile picture of the author nofearman
          Originally Posted by Crafty Blogger View Post

          I had no problem connecting to his site... it has an opt in page to get the report, but that has been there forever...
          Yes, but did you open the opt email confirmation ? And what link did it take you to? NOT the link wheel tool
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          • Profile picture of the author Marketing Ignite
            All sites link to everyone and then they link to your website...stay away from this as this is an old strategy that can get your site penalized...google can track the ip addresses nowadays and link relationships...another form of link manipulation...If the have not caught you yet, they will soon...
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          • Profile picture of the author Crafty Blogger
            Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

            Yes, but did you open the opt email confirmation ? And what link did it take you to? NOT the link wheel tool
            Yes. I subscribed, opened the email, and it took me right to the link wheel report ("link wheel explained.pdf").

            I really think you need to double check your facts! Unless you have some other motive from spreading false information...
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            • Profile picture of the author nofearman
              Originally Posted by Crafty Blogger View Post

              Yes. I subscribed, opened the email, and it took me right to the link wheel report ("link wheel explained.pdf").

              I really think you need to double check your facts! Unless you have some other motive from spreading false information...
              I am givng you the facts. Maybe you should stop "fibbing". The link does NOT go to a report. BUt your DEfensive response says volumes about YOUR motives. Sorry you are no longer getting kickbacks from this failed product....;}
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              • Profile picture of the author Crafty Blogger
                Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

                I am givng you the facts. Maybe you should stop "fibbing". The link does NOT go to a report. BUt your DEfensive response says volumes about YOUR motives. Sorry you are no longer getting kickbacks from this failed product....;}
                I've never received a cent from this product, just have no problem (and never have had) downloading the link report. Anyone else care to try? Again, I suggest you double check the link before you go around telling people it doesn't work...

                Lemonarians Linkwheel Explained

                I think if you check again, you will see that it works just fine. I don't know what YOUR motivation is to tell people it doesn't work!
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                • Profile picture of the author nofearman
                  Originally Posted by Crafty Blogger View Post

                  I've never received a cent from this product, just have no problem (and never have had) downloading the link report. Anyone else care to try? Again, I suggest you double check the link before you go around telling people it doesn't work...

                  Lemonarians Linkwheel Explained

                  I think if you check again, you will see that it works just fine. I don't know what YOUR motivation is to tell people it doesn't work!
                  Sigh......whatever, I don;t have time to waste arguing with you. His signup confirmation email NO LONGER links to linkwheel. So, stop pushing this FAILED product /concept and move on. Find something else to make your $2 a week off of.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Crafty Blogger
                    Wrong. It works fine. I tried it yesterday with no problem, as I stated above. But yes, I suggest you move along and find another topic to spread false information about...
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                    • Profile picture of the author ap09.com
                      Link wheels build backlinks to your website's main page, which give your website a higher search engine ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    basically, it is a private network which links back to your site direct or indirectly. it helps your site to get more link values. and when these sites linked together in certain shapes, i.e. open wheel, broken wheel, random wheel, whatever it is called, it is really not that important.


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  • Profile picture of the author Spark
    Hi guys,

    Understand that almost everyone understand the power of linkwheels. Just curious though...anyone know what's the reason behind that make it so successful?

    Is it because of interlinking them together Meaning once they are indexed by Google, they will indexed in a infinity way? Since they are going round in circle. Which of cause Google might spot it sooner or later.

    However, if chosen... Web 2.0 properties [blog platform] with 1 way link will be much safer and powerful than Linkwheel provided they are being indexed constantly. This also create better link weight compare to getting package backlinks like angela's packets, paul's packets, etc

    Am i right to say that? I hope anyone who's really good and understand Linkwheel will able to help us now.

    This is what i understand as using linkwheels the main purpose. [Getting indexed infinity] Any suggestion on this as well?

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author seowall
    I'm sure by now most of you have either seen, heard or put in to action a "link wheel" of sorts into your SEO game plan. Now some of you might be starting to worry about me and wonder why I'm bringing up this topic. After all, it is usually kept in black/greyhat arena's but I don't think it needs to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumMaster
    One great way to get a ton of traffic to your websites is to build a link wheel.With a link wheel, you will gain authority from within the major search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author linkwheeler
    Have a look HERE.

    I thought an image may also help your under standing of a link wheel:



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  • Profile picture of the author clickwise
    A linkwheel is something that doesn't work anymore. kthxbai
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    • Profile picture of the author coolseo
      Originally Posted by clickwise View Post

      A linkwheel is something that doesn't work anymore. kthxbai
      Absolutely right.

      Its the simplest way to let Google know abut how you are trying to manipulate SERPs...actually the linking strategy has been there for quite a long time...but Lemorian or whomever had marketed it as a product, ruined its effectiveness...as more and more people doing the same thing, caught Google's attention...forget it now and stop spending bucks on sites (all of them with 'linkwheel' in domain name), who are still selling it as a secret weapon:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
        Originally Posted by coolseo View Post

        Absolutely right.

        Its the simplest way to let Google know abut how you are trying to manipulate SERPs...actually the linking strategy has been there for quite a long time...but Lemorian or whomever had marketed it as a product, ruined its effectiveness...as more and more people doing the same thing, caught Google's attention...forget it now and stop spending bucks on sites (all of them with 'linkwheel' in domain name), who are still selling it as a secret weapon:rolleyes:
        you are aware that all those is simply ASSUMPTIONS. I am pretty sure neither you nor i or most of the people here know really whether it still works or not.

        I just dont like reading such statements like "Google caught on"..like Matt Cutts personally told some people that they know how to detect linkwheels and how they wont work anymore?

        The problem i have with linkwheels is the fact that they are basically "mini networks" but all components/spokes of it are NEW and usually dont have PR. If i make a bunch of squidoos, weeblys etc...how can those sites "strenghten" a money site?

        The concept is interesting, but in its current form PROBABLY doesnt work....but i have some ideas like linkwheeling using EXISTING authority sites. Not some brandnew web2.0 properties with no value.
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        • Profile picture of the author coolseo
          Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

          but i have some ideas like linkwheeling using EXISTING authority sites. Not some brandnew web2.0 properties with no value.
          what made you think that people are still waiting for a day to try this:confused:

          I have tried every type of linkwheel for different sites...with only authority sites, with numerous web2.0, closed loop, not closed and so on...furthermore I tried linking only the articles from popular article directories like ezine, articlepool, goarticles etc...this task took a whole month to complete!..I had gathered quality links for each of those (profile links, bookmarks, comment links!)...Yahoo explorer showed 20 to 80 backlinks for each...but still no movement in SERPs for main site...rather it faced so called '50's penalty' by Google...my hard gained rankings dropped to 5th page and thereof...even with many backlinks, all the spokes showed PR- NA (even after toolbar update)...which clearly indicates that Google literally "caught it", doesn't it?...its just because of the interlinking...cause when I changed the linking structure penalty was reversed...in few cases I had to delete the properties...if this is not the practical example, one wonders what is!
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    This nonsense is still going then.

    If anyone could explain how a load of spun content all linked together and sitting in the supplementals is a killer strategy for SERP domination, feel free to chip in....
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoTrick
    The hardest part about starting a new site is getting it ranked in Google and the best way to rank a site quickly.It was one of the most creative uses of web 2.0 properties.

    Now the trick here, and why link wheels are so effective is the new blogs and microsites we create are on sites like Hubpages.com, Wordpress.com, Blogger.com
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  • Profile picture of the author sousen
    A link wheel is the process of creating 12 or so (or sometimes up to 116) new blogs/microsites on a particular topic. On each of those sites, you write 200 words of unique content, and include 1 link to your targeted site, and 1 link to one of your other blogs/microsites.
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