Regarding SEO, should I just pay for links?

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Hello everybody:

I'm currently paying an SEO company about $600/month for SEO services... but most of the stuff I do not need.

Should I continue with "SEO packages"? Or should I just pay for links?

My package is a 6 month plan with 80 quality links (for the whole 6 months, not per month... same goes for the following numbers), 350 directory submissions, 480 article submissions, 480 press releases, 50 optimized pages... the whole 6 months plan comes out to $3,600.

Content on my site is not a problem... I have a blog, and I write pretty well (with keyterms incorporated), and on a regular basis. Should I just pay for links?


Any advice?

Any recommended SEO packages from any company? I have a budget of up to about $800 - $850 a month now.

Thanks
#links #pay #seo
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Stepp
    I would rather spend my money on outsourcing articles.

    $600 could get you 120x 500 word articles (at .01 cent per word). For a bulk $600 project, you could probably get a cheaper rate than .01 cent per word.

    Use those articles to build backlinks.

    -Submit to article dirctories
    -Create Web 2.0 properties (squidoo, hubpages, etc...)
    -Guest Blog Posts
    -Turn the articles into videos (record a powerpoint presentation while reading the article out-loud and post them with TubeMogel or something)
    -Turn the articles into scribd documents
    -Create feeder blogs

    There are so many other possibilities- all which can build links to your site using articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    Take a look in the WSO's and the classifieds on this forum.

    No video submission for you? You are missing some love juice.

    Is it more important for you to rank, or are you looking more for traffic that will convert?
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  • Profile picture of the author mbacak
    Regarding buying links....I'd suggest being very careful doing that becasue you could get caught up in a bad neighborhoods. If by any chance you get associated with a online neighborhood like that then their bad reputation can rub off on you. Then you can get penalized.

    I'd also suggest paying close attention to what Jay284 said above.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
    I am looking for ranking and for quality traffic.

    Besides looking for this, I am working hard on making my site convert more... I'm in the process of making a video already.

    As to the articles... it sounds pretty good, but a lot of time people write crappy articles that don't do my product justice at all... or it's filled with misinformation.

    Please continue with the advice thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    It's hard to say because I know nothing about what your
    business revenue model is?

    That sounds like a lot of quantity - but what's the quality?

    480 press releases is a lot... but who reads 'em? A: nobody
    but spiders... and are they written to appeal to people at
    all?

    The truth is one well-written press release on PRWeb can be
    more effective than a crap press release subjected 100s
    of times to marginal directories.

    Anyway, SEO has it's place, but equally if not more important
    than SEO is your website's ability to engage and sell. If you
    get that right you don't have to go crazy with SEO in many
    cases.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbacak
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      The truth is one well-written press release on PRWeb can be
      more effective than a crap press release subjected 100s
      of times to marginal directories.
      That's sooooo true.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
        Hey Loren:

        The truth is one well-written press release on PRWeb can be
        more effective than a crap press release subjected 100s
        of times to marginal directories.
        How can I best do this? I can write the press release, but what's the best way to distribute it?

        Also, I looked in WSO and the Classifieds, and they have so many offers! I just don't know which one's are worthwhile!

        Sorry guys for being such a rookie here...
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  • Profile picture of the author Always-A-Warrior
    Stop paying anymore. Do a wordpress blog and continue to add fresh content. Directories don't work like they used to and article submission is about to change big time so don't waste money on either.

    And don't pay for links. Create them yourself. Its not that hard. In fact pm me I'll do it for free.

    I never pay for anything I can't see.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
      Hello Always-A-Warrior

      Just curious... it's a really nice offer, but why would you do that for me?

      (Sorry man, I was raised to believe that people are always out for #1)...

      thanks, also, I tried PMing, but it won't allow me until I do a few more posts
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Dana Wilhoit has a list of good PR sites - there aren't that many
    that get real readers looking at them. A lot of press releases
    to the marginal directories don't even get indexed by Google,
    as far as I can tell. I'm not saying mass-submitting to free
    press-release directories is a complete waste of time - the only
    way to know that for sure is to test a project using only mass-
    submitted releases and see if you got any traffic or rankings
    from it.

    PRWeb and WebWire are worth submitting to.... and paying
    for upgraded distribution. Don't go overboard, but do test
    what spending some dollars on premium press releases can
    do for you.

    I often use free-press-release.com and pay for the $1 upgrade
    myself. It works great. Makes a nice press release that
    does well in Google and makes a live backlink. Not as
    good as PRWeb or WebWire probably, but a bargain for
    the price.

    Writing press releases is a skill to be sure, but in general
    I find it easier than writing articles... there's no editor
    who is gonna throw your submission back at you for being
    "too self-promotional" - because self-promotion is what
    press releases are all about.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
      Awesome advice... will most definitely take notes on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author cma01
    Mr Manpower,

    If you want to submit a press release on PRweb, go to PRweb.com, create an account and submit a press release. A basic submission is $80. Packages that include links in the release itself start at $200.

    The question is, do you want to spend your time on SEO or do you want to spend your time on your business itself? While I am capable of mowing my own lawn, I would rather pay someone to do it and spend my time doing something else.

    You may be capable of learning SEO and have an aptitude for it, but can your business afford the time it will take while you focus on learning it? There isn't just "one way." Everyone has their own opinion on the best method. It will take time for you to determine the best strategy for your business.

    Is there some reason that you are looking for someone else? Have you not seen results or has something else happened that you don't have confidence in the company you hired?

    I never pay for anything I can't see.
    So you don't believe in professional services? When people hire me, they are not only paying for the service that I provide, but my knowledge and expertise. They can't afford to spend the time stumbling around trying different things, so they come to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
      hey... go ahead and shoot me an e-mail on mistermanpower at yahoo.com

      We can discuss pricing etc.... I first would like to see what you can do though... I can't pm because of that block to newbies
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    • Profile picture of the author -prodigy-
      Originally Posted by cma01 View Post

      Mr Manpower,

      If you want to submit a press release on PRweb, go to PRweb.com, create an account and submit a press release. A basic submission is $80. Packages that include links in the release itself start at $200.

      The question is, do you want to spend your time on SEO or do you want to spend your time on your business itself? While I am capable of mowing my own lawn, I would rather pay someone to do it and spend my time doing something else.

      You may be capable of learning SEO and have an aptitude for it, but can your business afford the time it will take while you focus on learning it? There isn't just "one way." Everyone has their own opinion on the best method. It will take time for you to determine the best strategy for your business.

      Is there some reason that you are looking for someone else? Have you not seen results or has something else happened that you don't have confidence in the company you hired?

      So you don't believe in professional services? When people hire me, they are not only paying for the service that I provide, but my knowledge and expertise. They can't afford to spend the time stumbling around trying different things, so they come to me.
      Good points made in this ^ post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    THis is what happened to me when I bought links

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Powers
    Well,writing articles is really a piece of good advice.But I think the most important thing is your blog itself.First you should make sure your blog upadates and highly optimized.What's more,the quality of your service or product also matters.And then it's time for you to think about SEO and links.Or it's just waste of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donald Truehart
    There's some great packets floating around and some pretty good software to help semi-automate the process. Check the WSO's.

    HTH
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  • Profile picture of the author eddywebs
    paid links are not there forever so the best approach could be to buy featured or guest posts about your sites on various Blogs with good PR , the featured post just cost one time and are there forever , giving you that good old link juice .
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  • Profile picture of the author gbd
    Buying links can be a slippery slope. Google is beginning to be more selective about the links they consider valid. Purchasable links from some high PR sites are getting spanked by Google. Better to build your links the old fashioned way if you care about keeping mama Google happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author HomeComputerGames
    For that amount you could almost hire a full time assistant to do whatever you want.
    So perhaps first hire an SEO consultant to design you a daily/weekly/monthly SEO task list and then have your assistant do the leg work.
    This is not hard work it just can be time consuming and this is where the grunt, I mean assistant comes into play. Plus they could do other tasks that you hate or do not have time to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Manpower
      When you say building links the old fashioned way... what do you mean?

      When I said pay for links, I meant pay somebody to do link building for me...
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    Manpower,

    Even if you hire a firm to handle SEO for you, it is important to understand as much about the subject as you can.

    This way you will know what you are paying for and what kind of results & issues you may have.
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