SEO Controversy: Let's Analyze These 2 Websites

Did you analyse the anchor text of backlinks?

Here's where relevancy of your backlinks matters, like was being discussed in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...backlinks.html

Both pages are relatively evenly matched but the inner page that has very relevant backlinks wins the tiebreaker round by have almost 100% relevant links based on the anchor text and overall theme of the linking pages. The other page has a lot of random, not exactly relevant, links but it has enough to rank well.

In other words, you won't get penalized for not having relevant links, as GeorgR. was worrying about in the other thread, but you may not win the tiebreaker when you're up against a very competitive site.

Pr have nothing to do with ranking on the search engines ...

I can take a site that has a Page rank 0 and beat a site that has a page rank 6.

Cause it has nothing to do with ranking.

So here is SEO tip ....

The keyword in the domain has nothing to do with ranking on search engines.
the only reason I suggest to put it in. Is so people know what your company is about or selling.

Page rank has nothing to do with ranking on search engines.

It is the following....

=> Image tags your pictures
=> Is your content relevant what your site is about....
=> Are you using your keywords right and not over use them on pages...
=> Are you linking to sites that are relevant to your website ....
=> Are you linking to websites that are .edu .gov (google see it as value sites)
=> Are your site value for education purposes. (google rank sites that educate people with quality content.
=> Is your site quality or just another site on the internet. (SEO is far more than just linkbuilding or content. It is about conversion of making sales.

Old SEO => meta keywords ....and over spam them ...

New SEO => Quality content and relevant links to your site.

It is not about how many links you have to your site.. But how many of them are relevant to your site.

Biggest mistake I see people make is they try to be a store that sells everything.

If you have a small budget ... narrow your market and know your market and penetrate your market and become a expert in that nich ...

All the best ...

Renier

I agree with xbokcom, content is what matters, and also the quality of the links. Again another good point regarding budget, it's better to aim at a smaller target audience which are relevent to your niche, this allows a good return on investment instead of a high bounce rate. Another point if i try to include on my sites, is to try and name your html tags relevenent to your site.

In relation to this you could have - <div id ="weight-loss-header">

all in all a good topic, and I look forward to reading peoples responses?

something you might have missed.... the PR 0 page is on a PR 3 site with over 16k backlinks to that domain.

My guess is that site has more authority than the other site and while that page may have less backlinks, the overall site authority is giving it a boost.

Off-site SEO.. anchor text, the PR 0 page is primarily "How to Get Rid of Man Boobs" while the PR 3 page uses "How to lose man boobs" , "how to get rid of man boobs" , "Ultimate Gynemax review" and a bunch of other variations.

The PR 0 page does have anchor text variety but mainly focuses on a single keyword phrase. The PR 3 page has a lot of different anchor text variations and may be too watered down to really hit it big with any of them.

I didn't look into the quality of backlinks. SEO Spyglass takes too long and I didn't want to bother with it.

That's my quickie analysis

I'm sorry, I guess Amazon and YouTube didn't get the memo for all of their 'pages' that rank well with very little or no off-site SEO or backlinking.

There are numerous examples of pages on high authority sites that rank well without the help of any additional SEO work being done.

My conclusion would be that the authority of a domain does spread some of it's weight to its pages.

This would explain why the greater the authority of my own sites get, the more long-tail searches I receive and the greater number of individual pages that pick up traffic even though I have put in zero SEO effort to boost those pages.

Yes, pages get indexed not sites... but, can you deny that a sites authority doesn't effect the ranking of it's pages?

I've completely lost track of what site is which now. Site #1 is #2 but site #2 is #1 and #3 but #1 is #3

Perhaps we should call them bert and ernie or something.

While I do agree with how PR can be an indication of certain things... the two example sites show the opposite since it's the PR 0 page that ranks #1 while the PR 3 page/site that is ranking at #7.

It's also the PR 0 page that has fewer backlinks, which does throw a monkey wrench in my backlinks are king beliefs. Generally, I would assume that 500 backlinks would top 100 but with these two sites it's not the case.

But this also makes me take a bigger picture look to figure out why one page out-ranks the other.

I didn't dig deep enough in to determine the quality of backinks for each but at face value from a quick backlinkswatch I didn't see anything that stood out that make one pages backlinks look any better than the others.

I dunno, it's a fun little schoolyard exercise playing detective to find out why one ranks better than the other.

The best I can think of is domain authority.

I run into this problem a lot where a competitor may have 10k site-wide backlinks and around 1k to a page that is ranking highly for the same keyword I am after.

With almost everything like PR being equal, even when I hit 1k backlinks, I am still not able to overtake that page. I have to go above and beyond what they have to compensate for what I am assuming is that sites overall authority.

This could also be a quality of backlinks issue and having to use quantity over quality but often times their backlinks aren't any better than what I have. I suppose you could also throw in age as another factor since these sites have been ranking where they are for a decent amount of time and may have earned some google trust or something.

Ahhhhh... too much thinking and over-analyzing.

ya know... I bet those sites make money, at least they should be.

It's an issue that some men have and it's not something they want to talk about openly... a perfect internet sales niche.

I think he was joking but this does lead into a subject that I don't see brought up very often... what are people looking for and what sells.

Embarrassing subjects that people want a cure for but aren't going to ask about are definite winners. I've been seeing a lot of spam for genital warts... probably another winner along with penis enlargement and how to last longer... all you need is the wonder cream for $19.95!