where to learn SEO?

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Is there a good book that teaches newbies about seo and how to get ranked well? I know of www.seobook.com, but thats $300/month. Plus on the website they recomend spending a few thousand dollars on backlinks to "gain trust" for your website. The problem is that there are way too many websites on flippa being sold with a lot of traffic and only 50+ backlinks. So, obviously they have good profitable keywords, but good seo as well i would think.

I have a website that I made a long time ago www.blacklabpuppies.net that was on the second page when I first got it ranked and is now number 440+. I have used "Scrapebox" (Some consider it Spamming blogs) for backlinks as well as forum profile links too. Thats it. Although its been quite awhile ago, hardly any of both of those ever showed up as backlinks. What are the tricks to getting a ton of quality backlinks quickly that last? I see websites on flippa all the time that are only a month or two old with hundreds of backlinks. How did they do it?

What are the secrets? Thats why I am looking for some good info on seo.

My long term goal is to aquire websites that have little traffic and dramatically increase traffic and monetize them. Although right now that is a distant goal, because my knowledge in seo and organic traffic generation that is real, is vey limited. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,

Adam
#search engine optimization #learn #seo
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    • You may want to check the War Room! Plenty of great SEO basic information there! And also, everyone here would be glad enough to help you.
  • there lots of resources online...most of them saying the same things, and if there some unclear to you..you can always ask it in forums
  • I, too, been wanting to lEarn SEO. I found this site really helpful for beginners like me. But for reading materials like book, I couldn't find any.
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    • Just to give you a jumpstart here are some primal basics.

      1] Research - think of topics to possibly wrap your site around. Do you want to make money from adsense ads, or promote either your own products or other peoples products (affiliates)?
      2] Write down as many words you think that people would search for when looking for your product, information.
      3] Grap your self a keyword research tool (market samurari) or Google Adword Tool and enter each one of those words to see what words have the highest amount of search volume
      4] Research your competition to see if you have a fighting chance of beating out other websites in the top 10 spots of Google that are already using those keywords.
      5] If you can beat them then buy a domain or use a free platform like blogger and create your content. (this is where the optimization comes into play)
      6] When purchasing your url or setting up your website name get your keywords into your url, and your page title.
      7] Write the content of your website and ONLY use your theme keywords at a rate of 7% of your overall word count. So if your site has 400 words then only use your main keywords 28 times through the entire site content.
      8] Each page on your site should only be optimized for one keyword.
      9] Create an RSS feed for your site and submit the feed to as many Rss directories as possible.
      10] Setup a Google account. Submit your site to the webmasters tools
      11] Find a free tool online to create a site map for your site and submit your sitmap in the Google webmasters tool...if using Blogger then your site map is your site + atom.xml so when viewing your site just put atom.xml at the end copy / paste that into the site map submitter
      12] Setup as many social bookmarks for your site as possible.
      13] Using pingler.com ping the website, the rss feed, and the social bookmarks.
      14] Write few articles (not using your actual keywords) about relative topics and submit the articles to Ezine articles. For instance if your topic is about blue diamonds then a possible topic would be something like red diamonds...they relative but they won't outrank your site in Google
      15] Use forum signatures to create backlinks
      16] Use profile backlinks to promote traffic
      EVERYTHING FROM THIS POINT ON IS REALLY WHERE WARRIOR FORUM CAN HELP YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY...BEST OF LUCK
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  • Awesome info guys! Gonna get SEO for dummies too!
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  • Here, Digital Point, respected sites such as SEO Moz, Search Engine Land and well regarded SEO bloggers are the only places to learn.
    You may buy a well reviewed book but 6 months after print the tips and techniques will be out of date.
    Personally i like forums the best, because no one really knows what works 100% all of the time the cut and thrust of the debate allows you to form your own opinion.
  • SEO Book isn't really for newbies. It's targeted more at firms and companies.

    Planet Ocean offers a 1 year subscription for about $100. I've subscribed to it for years. It is the cheapest single source of quality SEO information. Each month the newsletter outlines what is going on in search, what you should be doing, etc.

    This is an affiliate link http://www.internetmarketingiq.com/planetocean

    They have a bunch of front end entrances. Different Sites. You can just search for Planet Ocean and find the sites. I'm to lazy to do that.

    There is a huge difference between the information you get reading forms and what people "Think they know" and the advice given out over the past 12 years to Fortune 500 companies by professional researchers.
  • Dan Thies (I think that is how you spell his name) writes a very good SEO ebook as well, Fast Start SEO I believe it is called, a search online will pull it up. Free, great info, and he updates it each year.
  • Forums can be great if you know how to get past the misinformation and self-promoters.

    Otherwise, don't spend thousands, or hundreds on links. First, there are cheaper link packets to be found elsewhere. Second, you can figure out how to research your own places to find links from a lot of reading on forums and trying for yourself.

    To get you started, Google:

    inurl:"black lab puppies" +"add url"

    You can insert any keywords instead of the puppies, and you can expand and change the "add url" to anything you can think of, like add website, add URL, etc, etc, etc... Try different approaches, get creative, and you'll find lots of places to put your link.

    Have a nice day.
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    • Hi...I just posted a question similar to this but found that this thread is very helpful...will these SEO strategies also apply to getting traffic to a youtube or myspace page...I am just getting back into internet marketing, but this time I am looking to get traffic for exposure for my son's music. If I remember correctly google will not index myspace pages so I believe I will have to use a website to redirect traffic to his music page...
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  • I might recommend my own ebook (see signature) but that might appear biased, so let me recommend SEO Basics - a knol by aaron wall instead.
  • best way is to learn it from Internet.
  • You can go through these free SEO lessons

  • Hello,
    We can get plenty of information from this forum in general discussion forum of seo and if you face any difficulties people are here to help you......

    Best
    IntegratedS
  • Thank you everyone for your input! I appreciate it!

    Thank you,

    Adam
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    • This forum is great for learning
  • Check the link in my signature...has virtually EVERYTHING on this forum regarding onsite and offsite SEO condensed into easy to ready charts and graphs. Will save you quite a bit of reading time

    Good luck!
  • Self learning and building relationships with people in the SEO community pushed me to what I know. And everyday that passes, I have more to learn
  • Watch all the Market Samurai videos here. They are really good, and you do not need Market Samurai to learn stuff, although I guess you might want it after watching their excellent tutorials. You can use the keyword tool for free anyway.
  • One of the best ways to learn about SEO is reading this forum everyday. There are a couple other good forums, but this is one of the best.
  • Read this forum, visit SEOMOZ and watch all their videos, Google, buy a book...all it takes to learn SEO is a bit of motivation!
  • Read, Experiment , Analyze and Re Experiment. Though I don't find too much competent enough to give any comments to learn SEO, yet from my little experience I have found that Google is your best friend in the learning path. To know the latest trends in SEO, you can glance through top SEO forums and blogs .
  • These tutorials of mine if you want to cut out the theory.
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  • This site itself is great. Just make sure not to drown in reading and wind up dong nothing else. There is no replacement for hands on experience so as soon as you get some basic tips I would just get out there and start trying them out!

    That is probably the fastest way to find out what works for you because it depends a lot on what niche you are, what type of site you have etc.
  • There is a lots of sites are available in the Google. You just to try to find in the Google site otherwise you can also search with view to SEO in the Google, I think its far batter to get you answer in few days, Youtub is also very nice site for that.
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    • There are many resources available for learn SEO.I also agree that google is best way to learn about SEO.You can also learn SEO online & using e-book.
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  • There are lot of webmaster forums and blogs from where you will get detail knowledge about SEO. I suggest to select one forum & blog who is famous & follow this tow only. other wise at the end you will get confused.
  • Rank Mover by Daniel Tan. Very good work.
  • There are some great responses on here, and around the forum. I actually wrote a free email series on SEO. If you're interested, click on the link in my sig to sign up.
  • backlinkforums.com = abundance of SEO knowledge.

    and no I'm not affiliated with them.
  • I got started by picking up an SEO book a few years ago by the Pepperjam CEO (the title of the book escapes me). Granted, some of the material is outdated now, but there are some great concepts there. Also, I would like to mention that you can really improve your SEO skills by learning different technologies. An SEO specialist that knows intermediate level XHTML will really excel at on-page optimization whereas a recent grad who studied advertising and PR might have a particular knack for leveraging social media for internet marketing campaigns.

    When in doubt, a good ol' fashioned collegiate education in business administration will do wonders for you. Just my 2 cents.
  • simple online u are great
  • There are many ways to learn SEO for free out their, take mysite for example, (sorry for the promotion) you can use my blog to help with SEO and I am updating it all the time. Look at my signature link.
  • Newbie seo techniques won't rank you well. :p

    Check out my sig, I'm doing a basic SEO "series", meh.
  • I strongly recommend 'The Art of SEO' from O'Reilly books. It's pricey for a newbie ($40) but well worth it. I learned a ton of great info from that book.
  • I would also suggest getting some type of mentor you can ask anytime you have questions.
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    • You'll definitely learn SEO on forums such as the Warrior! Research SEO online and check out matt cutt's blog...he also posts videos regarding the art of SEO! Good luck!
  • You really made a good sharing.
    As a newbie doing the SEO, I really need it!
  • A lot of good info on YouTube when you get tired of reading also.
    Using the ratings helps weed out the junk.
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  • Rand Fishkin has written an amazing post by which you can judge your own level of expertise in SEO and also the different ways any one can learn it. A must read for all Aspirants.

    6 ways to learn SEO -SEOMOZ
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  • Reading and Studying SEO is the best answer to this problem.
    Internet is still the answer to this problem.
  • Hire a specialist...lol, no

    Daily reading. even the best SEOs are reading new things, growing, and learning each day.
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  • I've put together a simple free seo course which you can find in my signature. It's very basic, but its a good start to a complex topic.
  • I found the 30 day challenge pretty useful for learning the basic of SEO.
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    • You can make a little search on Google for various resources related to SEO, but you must join SEO related forums, communities etc..
  • Another great way to break into the field is to get an entry-level position in the industry for an e-commerce company. After learning the ABC's of SEO, I went to work at an e-commerce company and put my theoretical knowledge to practical use. By doing this, I learned more than just the mechanics of search marketing; i learned the planning, analysis, strategy, execution, market research, etc. Surround yourself with people who know the business and you will learn!
  • Ed Dale's "The Challenge" is the best SEO course on the internet, hands down. Not only that it is absolutely free.

    The Challenge
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    • If your main goal is to get valuable backlinks, one fast method is to create accounts with all the top social bookmarking sites. Now you can leave you website links on these sites. If you have a blog, you can update these sites with your blog posts and leave your link. Of course there is software to automate the registration for all these sites and also to update them with your blog posts and weblinks. In the end you should be able to seriously increase your ranking in the search engines by doing this. There are hundreds od social bookmarking sites, but really, only the top 10 or 20 matter.
  • For SEO, it's very important to stay up to date. Some optimizer's estimate that major search engines adjust their algorithms more than twice a day. Although most of these changes are not noticeable, the point is that proper SEO techniques change frequently. Don't rely on an old book to teach you the tricks.
  • I would recommend this free and great PDF from Ryan. He explains many great basics of SEO there. And this is latest stuff from Juli 2010. You can get it here: bit.ly/4evertraffic

    After that you could also have a look at this free pdf, where he explains how to get free high rated backlinks: bit.ly/topGooglerank

    And finally if you think about finding a good niche or the right keywords you might think about trying this great software, which is also for free, but only for a few days, so hurry up and get it here: bit.ly/freeResearch

    Helped me much to understand...
    Tobias
  • Guys don't waste money on ebooks when you don't have to. On our website in the top left corner we have a mailing list option and when you sign up you get free ebooks on Internet marketing, SEO, and others for free. I have all of the master resale rights to these books and we give them out for free to help our fellow marketers. I even have SEO for dummies that if you send me a private message I'll send you a copy.
  • I just added these 3 ebooks to the file sharing site. I add new ebooks weekly.

    Mastering_The_Search_Engines.pdf
    Search Engine Optimization.pdf
    SEO for Beginners.pdf
  • why not hire SEO expert.
  • You can also hire a guide who is already a SEO expert.
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  • The fundamental reason that we must search engine optimize the website, because these are programs that one of the following algorithm when scanning the site. Not all Web pages can be indexed so easily, these spiders have a limitation. So, we optimize the pages easier to understand the nuclear crawlers web-page.
  • Learning SEO is not as mysterious as some would have us believe. Many of the best knowledge I learned about SEO is nothing more than the search engines with different keywords and navigation control what happens.

    Look at the kind of sites that appear on the first page of Google for instance. What are they? Is social bookmarking sites? If the keywords match the domain names or titles? After considering for a while you get an idea of how things are ordered and where you might fit into your own website / webpage.
  • "The best way to learn SEO is by reading a book is well written and SEO covers the world of SEO on an equal footing with the real reader, so that a clear understanding can be conveyed. Thus, for beginner to intermediate, the material must be written for readers at this level in a way that suits them better to learn SEO, what would be different from that of a book written for a referral beforehand bed. "
  • I am just joining in different SEO forum sites, read and learn and sometimes ask questions about something new for me, fortunately people help me by putting good and relevant answers.
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    where to learn SEO?

    Is there a good book that teaches newbies about seo and how to get ranked well? I know of www.seobook.com, but thats $300/month. Plus on the website they recomend spending a few thousand dollars on backlinks to "gain trust" for your website. The problem is that there are way too many websites on flippa being sold with a lot of traffic and only 50+ backlinks. So, obviously they have good profitable keywords, but good seo as well i would think. I have a website that I made a long time ago www.blacklabpuppies.net that was on the second page when I first got it ranked and is now number 440+. I have used "Scrapebox" (Some consider it Spamming blogs) for backlinks as well as forum profile links too. Thats it. Although its been quite awhile ago, hardly any of both of those ever showed up as backlinks. What are the tricks to getting a ton of quality backlinks quickly that last? I see websites on flippa all the time that are only a month or two old with hundreds of backlinks. How did they do it?