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Question: Do you even care about natural Link Building

by Mike Anthony
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I've been working on my natural build linking strategy. By this I mean link building where other sites are drawn to link to me rather than me (or my outsourcer) linking back to me. This is the super white hat link building that Google and a whole lot of SEO expertst outside of IM subscribe to.

Now natural link building as I describe it might seem strange coming from me but frankly I think profile, forum and blog comment backlinking is something most need to do to get placed where their sites can get noticed.

I dont think its a permanent strategy.

However I gather from what I read here that about 90+ percent of this forum seems only concerned with automated backlinking and having a gazillion backlinks every week. So heres the question again -

Do you even have an interest in another form of link building? Even if you could do it or learn strategies on it would you even care?

Why do I have an interest? Well theres a big flaw I find in all this get as many backlinks as I can with automated tools and list strategy going forward. Of course it will get you ranked and noticed but if thats a long term strategy how long is it before your competitors look up your backlinks and do the same thing?

Maybe the idea of the Google bomb is aptly named. I mean if you get ranked and then don't get any natural links its only a matter of time that your competitors start rolling with the automated tools and the self backlinking. they can even look yours up at a backlink checker. What then? You'll need more and then what? They'll get more and on and on like an arms race. Sooner or later you get bumped off by someone with a bigger bomb.

Long term I want some quality links that you look up see and can't do anything about because no automated tool can get it just like that. How many care about that though? I'm in the minority right?
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  • Profile picture of the author roxstar
    I'm not saying your wrong, or anything, or mean any offense, but you sell a semi-atuomated link-building tool (your own I might add) in your signature. But anyways, my linking profile right now is basically social media, forums, and building niche sites. I've been meaning to do a little more, but I've been pretty busy.

    My niche sites are by far my favourite since they're great content sites about about 6 pages usually, and tend to get bookmarked. My affiliate blogging site has a few stumbles, which I enjoy regular traffic from. I didn't even stumble it myself, some other person did - I just noticed it happening. So that's basically my natural linking profile. The other links are built by me and sometimes on sites of people who like me... And a few content spammers, but I can't really stop all of them.

    I totally agree with what you're talking about. You can't just win by being faster or stronger anymore...

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by roxstar View Post

      I'm not saying your wrong, or anything, or mean any offense, but you sell a semi-atuomated link-building tool (your own I might add) in your signature. But anyways, my linking profile right now is basically social media, forums, and building niche sites. I've been meaning to do a little more, but I've been pretty busy.
      Honestly do people ever read the opening post before responding? :rolleyes:

      I sell a semi automated system precisely because I said

      "Now natural link building as I describe it might seem strange coming from me but frankly I think profile, forum and blog comment backlinking is something most need to do to get placed where their sites can get noticed."

      So I am all for backlinking as a strategy but don't feel it should be THE permanent strategy for a site that is already ranked. NO offensse taken though. I'm just always amused by people not reading the OP. Talked about that here in what turned out to be a hilarious thread.

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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
    I get what you are saying here Mike and you make a good point, but in order to get to the point that your site is getting linked to on it's own because of the sheer quality of your content it has to get noticed first. I agree that at some point one would want their site to be such a respected authority in it's niche that it builds links naturally and all you have to do is keep it updated with quality content. That is why I think it is also important to have at least a few sites that you run be in a niche that you are genuinely interested in, not just something you can make money off of.

    To me this is the only form of true freedom in your career anyway. Their is a guy I was reading about who makes about $1500 a day off adsense and $500 a day off chitika all off of one site. Both adsense and chitika have articles about him and guess what he has natural backlinks from both companies! Who has backlinks from google and chitika!?

    This guys site has been online since around 95 though so it is obvious that it took him a long time to reach this point. I agree %100 percent with you that you should be setting a goal to have sites in your portfolio that are going to be real authorities and build links naturally that no one else can get. If not you are going to be building backlinks forever! Or even worse, what if one day googles' algorithm changes and backlinks are not as important as they are now?? (just a thought). Anyway, great post...

    BTW, here is the site I am talking about. Ask the Builder - The Home Improvement Resource See if you can get any of his links!
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  • Profile picture of the author JustOnePepsi
    Natural links are so powerful that it's worth the time spent making charts, small applications, reference guides, resouce lists, etc. that invite linking.

    Evey site and blog you mae should have pages that people will bookmark to refer to over and over.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Just one,

      I'm a regular here in this section so I don't say this lightly. Your thinking on SEO marketing is Light years ahead of the average poster. I've brought THOUSANDS Of visitors to my site as well by providing resources and it comes with natural liks that serps love.

      The days of people just linking to you for normal blog posts or articles are dying. Webmasters link to resources, reviews , lists, communities etc.

      Placing your own backlinks is great for starting out but real solid businesses get people to link back to them. Its not only powerful it is later down the road essential. there are a lot of people complaining that they can't break onto the front page of Google no matter how they try . Why? A good amount of the times its because the front page has natural links. You can rarely get a high PR home page link from an authority site by placing it yourself (in a user site where member writers are featured or guest blogging) but you can get home page links regularly from providing what you mentioned. Solid post.

      Originally Posted by JustOnePepsi View Post

      Natural links are so powerful that it's worth the time spent making charts, small applications, reference guides, resouce lists, etc. that invite linking.

      Evey site and blog you mae should have pages that people will bookmark to refer to over and over.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimD
        I worry about what you're describing. There are lots of folks on Warrior Forum and elsewhere that will get you what I think of as "empty links", links with little or no content.

        I tend to focus on building blogs and article marketing to get early links.

        I'd like to move on from there to creating "magnetic content" as some people have called it. The gal who does "inlineSEO" has some great material on how to create content that people will book mark and link to naturally. And she says what you and JustOne are saying above. That the links are more robust, last a long time, and can be done systematically.

        I couple that with Allen Graves comment that he is deleting junk links from his article directories and I think that adding value is becoming more important as IMers are judging links more and more in addition to trying to create them.

        Great thread. Thanks.
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