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14 years ago

you need to understand that each month is different, and if you take a look those local monthly's are from LAST month, not current month.

head over to google trends and find out the overall trend for that keyword phrase, is it above 1.0 and is the graph showing an upward swing or is it stable above the 1.0 or 2.0 line?

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Thanks for the tip askloz

Have just checked with google trends. Keyword 1 and 3 is pretty stable, but Keyword 2 is a little erratic (some ups and downs)

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shadow1

14 years ago

Hi asciscopecunia....

It's great you've put in a lot into getting your sites indexed. Check your keywords using the search based keywords tool (sktool). It tells you the number of searches done on google.com excluding its search partners.

I posted about how the google keyword tool can mislead you. You can find out more here

warriorforum.com/adsense-ppc-seo-discussion-forum/187124-googles-keyword-figures-can-mislead-you.html

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sarasayshi

Without quotes is broad match. Are you using Google Adwords Tool for your monthly search numbers or Micro Niche Finder to conduct your research?

Have been using google adwords keyword tool

Originally Posted by shadow1

Hi asciscopecunia....

It's great you've put in a lot into getting your sites indexed. Check your keywords using the search based keywords tool (sktool). It tells you the number of searches done on google.com excluding its search partners.

I posted about how the google keyword tool can mislead you. You can find out more here

warriorforum.com/adsense-ppc-seo-discussion-forum/187124-googles-keyword-figures-can-mislead-you.html

Thanks for the tip shadow. the sktool search number are oh so different!

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askloz

14 years ago

no worries,

btw, its' Loz as my Signature says, just a little more eye strain there buddy, a bit lower and you'll see it

do you want to send me the keyword via private message and I'll give ya my take on it

Originally Posted by asciscopecunia

Thanks for the tip askloz

Have just checked with google trends. Keyword 1 and 3 is pretty stable, but Keyword 2 is a little erratic (some ups and downs)

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Easy Cash

14 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

no worries,

btw, its' Loz as my Signature says, just a little more eye strain there buddy, a bit lower and you'll see it

do you want to send me the keyword via private message and I'll give ya my take on it

Hey Loz, You wanna change your name - this keeps happening........

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askloz 14 years ago

LOL, I know, but, how much of an eye strain is it to see the sig?

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Hey Loz, You wanna change your name - this keeps happening........
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asciscopecunia 14 years ago

Originally Posted by hamidoo07

how many backlinks didi you build ?
and how much time you took to get this results ?

Good Luck !

i just build a couple, maybe 5-10 over two days, most of them are on my own sites, social book marking sites and blog comments.

Once the site is up, they will usually be indexed latest in a week or so. Not all get ranked though, some get indexed but didn't seem to appear on the search ranks.

Am still new to this so am going to wait and see. Got lots to learn
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Heimir Finnson

14 years ago

You probably searched using the broad term right? You need to change that to exact to get a more accurate estimate.

But you must realize that this tool is far from perfect, I have few sites sitting at page 1 that were supposed to get over 5000 monthly searches (exact match) and are not getting but a fragment of those visits.

Just keep building sites and you will hit a goldmine eventually, I know cause I did

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson

You probably searched using the broad term right? You need to change that to exact to get a more accurate estimate.

But you must realize that this tool is far from perfect, I have few sites sitting at page 1 that were supposed to get over 5000 monthly searches (exact match) and are not getting but a fragment of those visits.

Just keep building sites and you will hit a goldmine eventually, I know cause I did

Hi Heimir,

Thanks for your feed back really appreciate it. Is searching using exact term meaning using "quotes" in they adwords keyword tool? I did so and the results were identical. Is there some other way to do it?

Its good to have comrades in this project!

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clickbump

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson

You probably searched using the broad term right? You need to change that to exact to get a more accurate estimate.

But you must realize that this tool is far from perfect, I have few sites sitting at page 1 that were supposed to get over 5000 monthly searches (exact match) and are not getting but a fragment of those visits.

Just keep building sites and you will hit a goldmine eventually, I know cause I did

Good answer.

My experience exactly. Most of my adsense income is derived from a handful of the sites I've launched (80/20 rule as I indicate in my thread).

The key, as Heimir wisely reflects, is to keep launching them (using diligent niche research and taking into account that the G numbers are only representative of the relative popularity of a given term) and you will find your "earners" will begin to emerge out of the pack.

Treat the rest as "potential earners" and reevaluate often. I've got some sites sitting at #6-10 that don't earn, and traffic is far lower than G estimates. So I just turned off Adsense on those sites and I let them "age" a bit and generate some credible history. If they pop up a few rankings points, I'll turn Adsense on for a few days and see how they perform. For the most part though, I don't pay much attention to these underperforming sites. I'd rather spend my time in research to find the next $20 a day site.

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nettech

14 years ago

Are those broad or exact match terms? The numbers just dont seem to tally up to the traffic you should recieve!

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Chris-

14 years ago

Originally Posted by nettech

Are those broad or exact match terms? The numbers just dont seem to tally up to the traffic you should recieve!

Using exact keywords, the Google numbers are obviously complete nonsense.

I've got 4 ClickBump-style sites, at positions #3, #5, #5, #6, and for each of those keywors my site is by far the best answer to the search term, the "exact" monthly traffic is supposedly 9900 for one of those yet I get only a few AdSense impressions a day, and another keywords supposedly recieves 3600 searches a month yet I get about one impression a day. So it seems to me that Google numbers, even with exact keywords, are simply lies. I've read other people saying the same thing on these forums.

On the other hand, the amount of traffic I recieve does seem to show some relation to the Google traffic figures . . . the ones with higher figures give me more traffic, but the traffic is obviously a tiny fraction of what it would be if the Google figures were anything like correct.

Someone else on the ClickBump thread is also recieving about the same income as I am . . . a few percent of what ClickBump says he gets. So it's not just me

Chris-

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sarasayshi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

Using exact keywords, the Google numbers are obviously complete nonsense.

I've got 4 ClickBump-style sites, at positions #3, #5, #5, #6, and for each of those keywors my site is by far the best answer to the search term, the "exact" monthly traffic is supposedly 9900 for one of those yet I get only a few AdSense impressions a day, and another keywords supposedly recieves 3600 searches a month yet I get about one impression a day. So it seems to me that Google numbers, even with exact keywords, are simply lies. I've read other people saying the same thing on these forums.

On the other hand, the amount of traffic I recieve does seem to show some relation to the Google traffic figures . . . the ones with higher figures give me more traffic, but the traffic is obviously a tiny fraction of what it would be if the Google figures were anything like correct.

Someone else on the ClickBump thread is also recieving about the same income as I am . . . a few percent of what ClickBump says he gets. So it's not just me

Chris-

Your traffic or lack of traffic can very well have something to do with your titles. If they are not enticing enough, your position may not matter. Bottom line is that people are going to click on the listing that is most appealing and relevant to what they think it is they are looking for.

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Chris-

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sarasayshi

Your traffic or lack of traffic can very well have something to do with your titles. If they are not enticing enough, your position may not matter. Bottom line is that people are going to click on the listing that is most appealing and relevant to what they think it is they are looking for.

Thanks for your comments

My site descriptions begin with "how to choose the best (keyword)". This looks to me to be by far the most enticing option on page one (for people who are looking to buy the product the keyword is about), as most of the rest of the descriptions are obscure details about obscure single products in the niche.

My sites are generally rising up the pages, which I hope means that people are clicking on them more than other sites higher up the page. Yet the traffic I get is extremely poor.

What do your descriptions begin with, to get the most clicks from Google search results?

Chris

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WareTime

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

Thanks for your comments

My site descriptions begin with "how to choose the best (keyword)". This looks to me to be by far the most enticing option on page one (for people who are looking to buy the product the keyword is about), as most of the rest of the descriptions are obscure details about obscure single products in the niche.

My sites are generally rising up the pages, which I hope means that people are clicking on them more than other sites higher up the page. Yet the traffic I get is extremely poor.

What do your descriptions begin with, to get the most clicks from Google search results?

Chris

Also Chris, note that google serves customized results. What your sites rank for you may or may not be how they rank for others.

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asciscopecunia 14 years ago

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback.

Just to post a little update since my last post

Traffic is still not quite substantial but some of my sites are getting a little traffic and earning some $$ already. It may be a just about 10 or 20 cents from a handful of sites but its comforting everything is moving forward.

Always good to see some $$ coming in. Am gonna keep on making some sites and see. Keeping fingers crossed!
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Chris- 14 years ago

Originally Posted by WareTime

Also Chris, note that google serves customized results. What your sites rank for you may or may not be how they rank for others.

OK thanks, I will check at an internet cafe without logging onto my Google account

Chris
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Chris- 14 years ago

Originally Posted by WareTime

Also Chris, note that google serves customized results. What your sites rank for you may or may not be how they rank for others.

Thanks for that, good point . . .

Just checked that today and you're right the results are slightly different, but I'm still not doing too bad in terms of position . . . now one site at #2, 2 sites at #3, one at #9, one at #11.

I also take it as a good sign that all my sites are gradually going UP the page, which I presume means that people visit my sites more than others, which makes sense as my sites are by far the best answer to the search term (other sites are mostly obscure technical details of one obscure product).

Yet my traffic and earnings are still a tiny fraction of what they are supposed to be.

Chris-
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sarasayshi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

What do your descriptions begin with, to get the most clicks from Google search results?

Chris

I always grab a snippet from my post that has the keyword included but also is something eye catching like "if you are in the market for a key word phrase and you are interested in saving as much as you can....."

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by KeNiQ

See I dont understand Im doing the exact same thing and I cant even get my site indexed it sucks!

Some of my site takes about a week or more to be indexed and some get indexed in a day or two. The latest was two weeks for me. Am sure your sites will get indexed eventually. Backlinks to popular sites/forum do help.

Originally Posted by learningstuff

Since you're using the adwords keyword tool, you should see a drop down list towards the top right of the list of keywords, that has options: broad, phrase, exact

When you're doing your research, use exact to get a better idea of what traffic you can expect.

Thanks for the tip

Just realized I have always used broad term search...:p

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inter123

14 years ago

I don't think exact keywords are lies.

It takes time for the adsense ads to load. If the person comes to the site and leaves straight away, you will receive one visitor but no adsense impression. Best way to see how much traffic you are receiving is through the traffic stats on the Cpanel.

With a few of the one page adsense site I did, was finding 75% of the time the person would leave the site within 30 seconds.

Also some people do not like seeing ads so they have browser feature enabled to prevent ads from the likes of Adsense.

And some folks are using really old browsers which are not capable of displaying javascript so ads will not be displayed.

I'd say Adsense page impressions may be about 50% of the traffic received.

Originally Posted by Chris-

Using exact keywords, the Google numbers are obviously complete nonsense.

I've got 4 ClickBump-style sites, at positions #3, #5, #5, #6, and for each of those keywors my site is by far the best answer to the search term, the "exact" monthly traffic is supposedly 9900 for one of those yet I get only a few AdSense impressions a day, and another keywords supposedly recieves 3600 searches a month yet I get about one impression a day. So it seems to me that Google numbers, even with exact keywords, are simply lies. I've read other people saying the same thing on these forums.

On the other hand, the amount of traffic I recieve does seem to show some relation to the Google traffic figures . . . the ones with higher figures give me more traffic, but the traffic is obviously a tiny fraction of what it would be if the Google figures were anything like correct.

Someone else on the ClickBump thread is also recieving about the same income as I am . . . a few percent of what ClickBump says he gets. So it's not just me

Chris-

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Undercovercash

14 years ago

Hey guys

Dont want to highjack the thread, just a quick question. When using the xfactor method do you use the html he provides or wordpress?

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asciscopecunia

14 years ago

Hi all,

Thanks for all the feedback

I actually use a html template that i made myself, modeled after Clickbump/xfactor's.

What is a broad/exact term match? For instance if i found a keyword called 'big pimples', I will get a domain name like bigpimples.com and optimized based on the 'big pimples' keyword (without quotes). Am I doing it right?

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sarasayshi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by asciscopecunia

Hi all,

Thanks for all the feedback

I actually use a html template that i made myself, modeled after Clickbump/xfactor's.

What is a broad/exact term match? For instance if i found a keyword called 'big pimples', I will get a domain name like bigpimples.com and optimized based on the 'big pimples' keyword (without quotes). Am I doing it right?

Without quotes is broad match. Are you using Google Adwords Tool for your monthly search numbers or Micro Niche Finder to conduct your research?

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learningstuff 14 years ago

Originally Posted by asciscopecunia

Hi all,

What is a broad/exact term match?

Since you're using the adwords keyword tool, you should see a drop down list towards the top right of the list of keywords, that has options: broad, phrase, exact

When you're doing your research, use exact to get a better idea of what traffic you can expect.
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sarasayshi 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Undercovercash

Hey guys

Dont want to highjack the thread, just a quick question. When using the xfactor method do you use the html he provides or wordpress?

Hi again!

I have seen no difference as far as earnings or rankings in regards to static HTML versus wordpress. I started off building my first chunk of sites in HTML but now I only do wordpress. I actually prefer Clickbump's template. It's quick to install and the different themes mix things up a bit. (I was getting tired of the original colors from John's book).
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inter123

14 years ago

Hi.

I bought a 20+ domain names with the keyword, did 2 adsense one page sites. Then came across this thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...JGwqirMXpP9F57

So stopped the smaller sites and started to scale up. Don't know if I did the right or wrong thing because one page sites are quick to build and quite easy to make $100 a day within 2 months.

Originally Posted by asciscopecunia

Hi all,

I have been doing a couple of Clickbump/Xfactor websites for the past week and would like to share my progress. Here is what I have been doing so far

1. Keyword research

2. Build Website (HTML websites)

3. Optimize Page (Title, h1 tag, h2 tag, meta description, meta keywords, keyword density of 1-2%, 300-400 word content)

4. Built a couple of backlinks and submit in Google Submit

So far I have made 9 websites. Although some of the sites are not indexed yet, so far I have three keywords that managed to get indexed in page 1 in Google.

Keyword 1: 27'000 local monthly search (#6 on Page 1)
Keyword 2: 8800 local monthly search (#6 on Page 1)
Keyword 3: 650'000 local monthly search (#3 on Page 1)

Although I am on page 1 for these 3 keywords, I have not been getting much organic traffic at all (there are days that go without getting a single visitor from the search engines).

Is there something that I am not doing/doing?

Getting a little nervous already....

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Riposte 14 years ago

Originally Posted by inter123

one page sites are quick to build and quite easy to make $100 a day within 2 months.

Whoa, come again?

Quite easy to make $100/day within 2 months? What are you talking about?
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rmwebmaster

14 years ago

Most scary thing for me i experienced

I made a website on 2 keywords they are showing at #4 and #6 google.co.in but no where on google.com what to do i am quite confused .Any help is there any scope for this micro niche consistently getting one after one problems waiting for reply keenly as i have started 5 more sites learning from previous mistakes please tell me anyone else facing same problem

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robrave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rmwebmaster

Most scary thing for me i experienced

I made a website on 2 keywords they are showing at #4 and #6 google.co.in but no where on google.com what to do i am quite confused .Any help is there any scope for this micro niche consistently getting one after one problems waiting for reply keenly as i have started 5 more sites learning from previous mistakes please tell me anyone else facing same problem

I realized this too. But fortunately I have only launched one website.

I tried using US proxy on Micro Niche but it was always unstable and sloooow.

And when using browser, I find hidemyass dot com useful to browse google as it is located in California.

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Kay King 14 years ago

one page sites are quick to build and quite easy to make $100 a day within 2 months.

sure it is (not) - and expecting that income from one page sites is what makes lazy marketers cry "it doesn't work"
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by rmwebmaster

Most scary thing for me i experienced

I made a website on 2 keywords they are showing at #4 and #6 google.co.in but no where on google.com what to do i am quite confused .Any help is there any scope for this micro niche consistently getting one after one problems waiting for reply keenly as i have started 5 more sites learning from previous mistakes please tell me anyone else facing same problem

mm are the domains you are getting backlinks from based in India? (co.in) or is your current server located somewhere over there? I'd say focus on link building as much as possible without going overboard, if it is a glitch you could get over it quite fast.

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KeNiQ

14 years ago

See I dont understand Im doing the exact same thing and I cant even get my site indexed it sucks!

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big_t

14 years ago

^ How old is your site?

Submit your site to Digg, Jumptags, and if you're on Wordpress submit the RSS feed to millionrss.com and feedage.com.

Try that out and see what happens.